WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: Strategic Alts, Sniping, Battle Pets & Crowdsourced Data

Live Posted 2017/08/19 at 10:37 AM by Gumdrops

firstsecondTrial of Style event/r/woweconomy subredditDiscord serverTradeSkillMasterX-45 HeartbreakerThe Horseman's Reins/u/Gauntl3t shares some of their current spots and asks for some pointers on other strategic locations to park some characters

I have a ton of alts I don't have time to play and right now I'm using some of them to camp some spots for potential drops. A few are Garnia in timeless isle for Ruby Droplet. Demidos in Draenor for Servant of Demidos. I use my Druid to hunt Collidus the Warp-Watcher for the eye-patch style transmog pieces in Outland.

Do any of you do something similar for unplayed alts?

Fragmented Gold Per HourHive Queen's HoneycombFlorawing Hive QueenZul'GurubTwilight JasmineVolatile LifeVolatile AirMote of WaterAqueous SurgerAqueous SpawnAqueous LordBlack TemplePrimal WaterBear TartareThe Shattered HallsShattered Hand ExecutionerPrimal WaterPrimal AirPrimal FirePrimal EarthThe Consortiumsmall quest chainYorMana-Tombs/u/NoUploadsEver shares some of their experiences with 13 level 110 characters

1. Zandalari Warbringer, Zandalari Warscout, and War-God Dokah. On weekdays there is a chance on some servers that these guys are not being camped and with multiple characters you can log in and out fairly easily to check whether they are up. Preferably use Engineering characters with Wormhole Generator: Pandaria to scatter the characters across the spawn points. The Warbringers drop Direhorn mounts (Reins of the Amber Primordial Direhorn) and all of them drop two types of supplies bags and reputation tokens. By the time you get all 3 mounts from the Warbringers you will have enough tokens to get exalted with Shado-Pan, The August Celestials, The Klaxxi, and Golden Lotus factions. Additionally they drop a lot of materials useful in crafting the Pandaria mounts, particularly the panthers. Easy source of Golden Lotus, Kyparite, and even Ghost Iron Ore. They also drop a few BoEs, but they generally don't sell that well for me.

2. Low level rare spawns for mog items. This is more of a time efficient way to get old BoE that don't have a high drop rate from dungeons. Park a character at a mob and log in every few hours and kill it. Rather than killing 30 mobs you kill one. I've done this with the rare spawn bugs in Silithus (they don't have the Glorious set in their guaranteed BoE loot table, but they do drop elegant and ornante sets.)

/u/vic6string talks about their perch

I used to leave a toon on Timeless Isle for the Spineclaw Crab. That is probably the toughest pet to find in the game (of those that you can actually go hunting). You can go months without seeing one on the AH. As an added bonus, you have another water pet (Jademist Dancer) right in the same area so you can log in and if the crab isn't up you kill all the Jademist Dancer and try your luck with two pets at once.

/u/taterz58 likes some 'zone out farming'

I park one of my toons at the entrance to Firelands and fish Volatile Fire. They sell for each on my server so I just farm them myself while crafting or watching YouTube. I also fish for Deviate Fish if I'm out of Savory Deviate Delight. They sell for about each. I'm all for lazy YouTube farming so it works for me.

DeepholmAlbino CavefishDeepstone OilVial of the Sands@GumdropsEUTradeSkillMaster/u/vic6string lists the top 5 reasons people post items at 'stupid' prices

1. They just don't know the price, and don't feel like (or don't know how to) looking up the price online.
2. They posted a stack for stack price when they meant to post at unit price (50g per stack when they meant 50g per unit)
3. They missed a digit (I just bought Jade Legplates yesterday for ...I am sure he meant ...sold them same day for )
4. They based their price on old data, like their memory or wowhead comments. Example: Elixir of the Rapid Mind used to sell for a couple thousand gold back in WoD, so someone just coming back to the game for the first time since WoD might post a bunch at what he used to sell them for, not knowing they no longer drop in garrisons and now sell for ten times that much.
5. They are trying to move an item from one faction to another and the sniper beats them to it.

weekly thread on the /r/woweconomy subredditcorresponding channel on the Discord serverSheyrah/u/BilisOnyxiaHere he explains it in more detail

Here is a little easier to read breakdown of my formula:
If an item's value is greater than , use 90%.
If an item's value is greater than , use 80%.
If an item's value is greater than , use 60%.
If an item's value is greater than , use 50%.
If an item's value is greater than , use 30%.
If an item's value is greater than , use 20%.
If an item's value is greater than , use 10%.
If an item's value is or less, exclude it no matter how cheap it gets listed. (I was tired of having all kind of junk pop up in my sniper results)

dedicated TSM Support channel on the Discord serverMagneith

Pets are incredibly lucrative with basic knowledge of battle pets. There is some initial unprofitable work but after that it's just time that you give.

You will need a few different pets of each family, at least 3 of each, leveled to 25. Once you get your first couple of 25s, you can power level everything else you need. To pick what pets you need, I would suggest looking up a guide to the Tanaan Jungle legendary pet battles and level the pets they recommend you use for those battles, as that will be your main focus for potential gold. Once you have your pets, there are two addons called PetJournalEnhanced and Rematch. The first gives you a heap of extra filters and search options in your pet journal. The second allows you to save and manage teams so when you next do a battle, a simple mouseover or click will load the team you need. Initially, you will need to put the teams together for each battle, but once saved, a round trip of all 15 pets in Tanaan Jungle should take 45-60 min.

HazelNuttyGameshas a guide for nearly all of the PvE Pet Battle encounters in the game

Now you are ready to make some gold.

You can do the Tanaan battles once per day on any toon you can take to that area. The reward for each battle is Fel-Touched Pet Supplies. There are at least 4 pets you can get from those bags. The two you are after are the Seaborne Spore and the Nightmare Bell, which currently on my realm, are worth about and respectively. As with transmog items though, some of the more expensive pets can take a week or two to shift. With the pets you also get Shiny Pet Charm in the bags. These are Bind on Battle.net and they add up quick. You can then buy more pets and some toys from the vendors to sell on the AH. Some people want the pets and toys, but don't want to grind charms or want to combine spending charms and gold.

If you get bored of those, you can shake it up a bit and do the Pandaria Pet Battle Dailies, but they are quests that can only be done once per account per day, rather than once per character.

Now that you're an established pet battler, sort of, you can look at the other options. The new pet battle dungeons are an opportunity to again obtain and buy more rare pets that sell for 50-. But you do need a lot of level 25s. Or again, look up the guides for Wailing Caverns and Deadmines pet battle dungeons and level the pets they recommend.

If you are flat against battling, you can still make money by farming for Battle Pets. Those from older raids like Siege of Orgrimmar still sell very well. There is still some work involved to get your toons up to being capable of soloing SoO, but you can do it on multiple toons and pets like Kovok for example, still fetch 30-.

/u/Vahdis drew up a fantastic guidecheck him out on Twittershares his flips and sales/u/Avisay/u/ghostmarbleDreamleaf

Initial Mill

Dreamleaf	40,600	38,180
Roseate Pigment	17,036	16,007
Sallow Pigment	1,815	1,746
Yseralline Seed	1,713	1,563
Nightmare Pod	850	736

With Nightmare Pods

Dreamleaf	40,600	38,180
Roseate Pigment	18,988	17,759
Sallow Pigment	4,310	3,995
Yseralline Seed	1,905	1,723

Leystone OreFelslateThis spreadsheetSheyrahpublic spreadsheet that covers every aspect of data collectionit is tagged as 'Data Collection' on the /r/woweconomy subreddit/r/woweconomy subredditDiscord serverstreaming live on Twitch@GumdropsEU

Comment by WinfreeSo none of this data from wowhead client upload? Just curious..Comment by GumdropsSo none of this data from wowhead client upload? Just curious..Comment by ArgentroseStill very much enjoying these articles. :-) Thanks for all the lovely info! <3Comment by XizervexiusWhy does a lot of the previous xpac items sell for so much still, like dreamleaf, motes of water, various primals etc?Comment by MaXiiczekWhy does a lot of the previous xpac items sell for so much still, like dreamleaf, motes of water, various primals etc?Comment by kodora1316Why does a lot of the previous xpac items sell for so much still, like dreamleaf, motes of water, various primals etc?Comment by deathlavitzcrowd-sourced data is very useful thank you.Comment by MagneithThank you very much for the mention!

It's worth noting that these are definitely just ideas and the story may very well be different on your server. When quoting pet prices, I tried to be as honest and broad as possible, taking data I've seen from various pet sites, as well as seeing the gold in my mailbox from the actual sales. If pets is something that works for you, great! If not, there are so many other ways to make gold legitimately. For example, the Jade Legplates mentioned, I farmed 2 pair in Zul Furrak, sold one for 50k and one for 30k, so things do indeed vary.

Happy farming!Comment by CarcozaI love your wrap-ups Gumdrops <3 For an old gold goblin like me it gives some new perspective and ideas to try out. Thank you!Comment by PumpkinFeastIt's often said there's great money in selling transmog items, but I had no luck with it yet. :S
Not sure if underminejournal lists previous sales, but is there a website or chart that shows how often an item is being purchased on the AH? Because they can be worth whatever, if no one buys them.Comment by GumdropsThank you very much for the mention!Comment by GumdropsIt's often said there's great money in selling transmog items, but I had no luck with it yet. :S
Not sure if underminejournal lists previous sales, but is there a website or chart that shows how often an item is being purchased on the AH? Because they can be worth whatever, if no one buys them.Comment by GumdropsI love your wrap-ups Gumdrops <3 For an old gold goblin like me it gives some new perspective and ideas to try out. Thank you!Comment by AralndaThese guides are awesome and was just what I was looking for! The last guide helped me make 100k by selling 2 items! You pointed out it's transmog of style week and you noticed there was an increase in people buying Mogs! I listed my 12k item (from undermine journal) and turned it into 52k!Comment by GumdropsThese guides are awesome and was just what I was looking for! The last guide helped me make 100k by selling 2 items! You pointed out it's transmog of style week and you noticed there was an increase in people buying Mogs! I listed my 12k item (from undermine journal) and turned it into 52k!Comment by guardiantitanLooking at prices on sites like WoWhead assumes that every server shares the same economy. But that's not true. Only site you should be looking at if you want to value an item is Undermine Journal and similar sites that look at individual servers.

An item on my server might sell for 2000g but on another server it might sell for 1000g and on a third server it might sell for 5000g. WoWhead might list the price as 4000g, but if I listed the item at that on my server (or the server where it sells for 1000g), it'd likely never sell or it'd take forever and a day if it did

Ruthless players on the AH is why I never bother with it anymore. I'd rather farm my own stuff and make my own stuff than deal with players who snipe, undercut, or price gouge. It's a rare day I sell anything on the AH, either.

I really hope Blizzard makes the AH like the old D3 one and the token where it's region wide. Then the economy can stabilize across all servers, more stock is available at all times, you can buy how much you want, there is no price gouging or undercutting because the prices would be like the token prices are, and no one can monopolize anything.Comment by SarthoriusI prefer non-video guides, and the Battle pet site I use is https://wow-petguide.com , it has a tool to scan one of your toons' battle pet collection, and say which pets you have that they use in their guides, which to level up, and more. And more, the community too helps with more clues one the fights, they have guides for the most important ones, Darkmoon dailies, Tanaan, achievement ones, etc. They even have rematch strings so you just need to copy them and past at the addon in game, it will load the teams for a fight, saving them already with the abilities to use.

Also, on the Battle pet part, I can't believe you forgot to mention that caging-uncaging battle pets its the safer way to transfer gold between faction, or servers. That same site I pointed out, has another tool now, that scans the AH on of the servers of some toons you set in it, and tells which are cheap on some and expensive on others. For example, the Tranquil Mechanical Yeti recipe can no longer be obtained, but on high populated servers they can go so cheap, you can snatch some with a toon and sell for high prices on your main server, or a low pop one. I farmed some of those new darter dragonling (from the Puzzle cave) on one server, leveled them up to 25 and sold 1 in each of the servers I needed gold.

As the Guide owner said in first post, you may need gold to make even more, and Battle pets are a good way, even if you try new servers, as long as you already have some toons leveled previously.Comment by FoxpawA great thing about selling battle pets is that since your pets are account-wide, it gives you a source of quick income literally anywhere in the game. Starting to build up a roster of characters on an unconnected realm or cross-faction? Sell some battle pets.Comment by GumdropsLooking at prices on sites like WoWhead assumes that every server shares the same economy. But that's not true. Only site you should be looking at if you want to value an item is Undermine Journal and similar sites that look at individual servers.https://twitter.com/erorus/status/897198317649768453Comment by TytheMainTaineri generally distrust the advice of shills, as they have a latent motive in suggesting where to spend my time and money.