Hero crests are only available in a T11 delve? Wow, so champion gear is the best that any soloist will achieve. Thanks Blizzard. If a T11 delve offered better loot than what a T7 or T8 does, then they would be worth doing, but since champion gear is the maximum track from bountiful coffers, there is no incentive to do any beyond a T8. At the moment, hero gear ONLY drops from the Delver's Bounty map, one piece a week if you can get a map that is, and with crazy RNG, most pieces that do drop are useless. Additionally, if you get a full eight T8 delves done, then you also have 3 choices for one piece in the great vault too.Seriously, getting additional crests for running higher delve tiers also risks getting killed more often. The point here is that a soloist player never does any group content so dungeon and raid gear do not exist for them. Obviously that is the player's choice and should be respected. But in the long run it now makes it harder and as well limits further activities that require better gear to survive.I do not mind taking six months to actually max out my gear as hero track because I do it on my own. But this does make it longer to get the crests and do the swap from 45 lower level to 15 higher level just for a single upgrade to one piece of gear. That will hurt a great deal over time. More discouragement in an ongoing storm of it coming to us all.
Do we know if there is still overlap in item level between the tracks? Right now, Champion 5/8 is equivalent to Hero 1/6. Is that still the case, only now uses Champion Crests throughout all the ranks? Or do the item levels no longer overlap and we only have Champion up to 4/4, with Hero 1/6 being higher?If the former, if I have a Champion 8/8 piece which would be equivalent to Hero 4/6, do I need to spend Hero crests to upgrade a Hero 1/6 in that same slot?And if the latter, it feels like a massive change to progression. I've been unclear from all the dev communications around this.
You all might find this very hard to believe, but I helped do this. I submitted a suggestion in TWW Season 2 about renaming the crests to match what track they're for. So kudos to Blizz for using another one of my ideas.
Hope they add a system to get some more myth gear from m+ doesn't need to be infinite just being able to farm a bit more then just the vault once a week.
Also seems m0 doesnt drop any meaningful gear or crests ? what is up with that? that could be used to push down the mythic track crest one more keystone level at least
Why not rename the current crests? We've got at least one more patch.
Good change to gear upgrade so far, I still hope that one day we will get a game with no crest caps either we have done the hard part of actually getting the item we want so having to wait for weeks to fully "unlock" the item suucks
Previously you only needed 15 gilded crests to unlock a mythic appearance on a slot. If I'm understanding this right, you'd need to grind A LOT more to unlock even a single piece. Unless they change how many hero crests we can get a week in delves or remove the stupid crest cap and just let us convert lower ones up.
That could turn out pretty good. You'll be encouraged to spend crests rather than save them, assuming the crest discount based on item level still carries over you'll benefit from spending all of your Hero crests to then save on those early upgrades of Myth track gear.No doubt they'll balance drop rewards to now include multiple types of crests more often. As an example instead of a +8 Key rewarding 14xGilded it could be a combination of 10xHero and 4xMyth crests etc.Then assuming they carry forward the upgrade system of 45 lower into 15 upper, everyone should be happy.
Now we just need Myth gear to drop from something like +12/+13 keys rather than just freeballing it in vaults each week.Would also be nice if when you trade in crests, they didn't count against your cap each week but /shrug I would still take more consistent Myth drops outside of raids
Makes perfect sense! A good change. 👌 👍
You just knew when they announced the simplifed crest system along with no valorstones in Midnight, they'd find an L and gimp it. Myth crests from 9's and not 7's and no Myth crests fom T11 delves is such a step back in QOL and player experience and yet not a surprise.
This system completely falls flat on its face unless we can convert down for free (and not "waste" the higher crests) or the conversion rate is so unbelievably generous you don't feel bad for doing so.Look at the current M+ system. +6 key is the ONLY key level this system functions. Every single other key level either provides Champ Track gear with Runed crests or Hero Track gear with Gilded crests.
Should have been this way with the introduction of crests, instead of these seasonal/expansion themed names. The whole system was too convoluted.
