Torghast Rework in Patch 9.1 Includes Score System Factoring in Speed and Deaths

PTR Posted 2021/04/15 at 12:49 AM by Squishei

Score-Based Torghast Reward SystemPC Gamer interview with Ion Hazzikostas

What if instead we had more of a rating or a score, where it was more of a spectrum, a continuum of success and trying to do better, trying to be more efficient, trying to be faster or have fewer deaths, but you have some reward to show for it?" Hazzikostas said. "You always want to do better, but you're never leaving empty handed—unless you, like, fail on the first floor and your run ends there, that's okay.

Score-Related Datamining Spells

NEW Elites award 10% additional score.
NEW Elites award 20% additional score.
NEW Elites award 30% additional score.
NEW When the multiplier timer is below 5 seconds, a Score Orb will summon nearby. Claiming it will reset the timer and award 50 score.
This effect can only occur once every 3 min and not while no multiplier is active.
Howling Blizzard
NEW Killing a creature has a low chance to increase your score gains by 100% for 30 sec.
NEW Killing a creature has a low chance to increase your score gains by 100% for 30 sec.
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NEW Each Score Streak level additionally grants you 2% damage, healing, and movement speed.

Rewards?

PTR 9.1 Build 38312 Datamining

Character & Class Changes

PvP Loot Item Level Changes

Dungeon, & Raid

Models

Oribos Skybox Turned Black

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Comment by dlbert2000"deaths"? what's that?Comment by ComboqtHopefully the reward isn't based on speed, i always do Torghast at work and go afk in between lmaoComment by TinyRaptor....I enjoyed Torghast because I enjoy taking my time and not speeding through a part of content in order to succeed. If I want to do that, I'll go do Mythic Plus.

If rewards are speed-based, this just killed all my drive to keep doing Torghast.Comment by JimbrooksSpeed shouldn't be a factor but rather a different type to do, like how M0 and M+ are different, imo. If speed clearing floors becomes the meta for the Soul Ash I will be mildly annoyed.Comment by madogworgenI hope they are planning on balancing classes within torghast if this is the case..Comment by WolfrickSpeed should not be a factor in torgast... that is mythic+ thing

I really detest and not enjoy... Mythic+ and the stress with the total speed focus...
so lets hope this will not be a thing... something else should be the focus...

maybe "NPCs killed" or "Phantasma gatehred"... there are so much stuff they could go for...

if they do wanna go over to speed focus... Torgast will be so ruined...Comment by MightylorddkGood, and put some weekly gear drop like Horrific vision based on these "scores"Comment by DemonaeIf they want a ladder system, I am ok with Speed being part of that, but NOT for rewards. I like to take my time and not hurry in Torghast. Adding any type of speed /reward system would kinda ruin it for me.Comment by GeigeScoreghastComment by DayonIt would be nice if there's a reward other than only Soul Dust, or if maybe there was an alternative use for it. I really enjoy Torghast, but knowing that I'm done with my grind makes it really hard to motivate myself. Making more legendaries for the sake of experimentation doesn't lure me very well either. The only time I'm going into Torghast is to help friends, and that's it's own reward, but that's because I'm more invested in my friends and helping them since they're the people I play raids and dungeons with.

I have no reason to do Torghast on my own, and even though I really like Torghast every moment spent there on my own is a moment I can spend doing any number of more productive activities like leveling a new alt or running mythics. Even callings seem like they're worth more time because of the valor, the gold, the conduits, the gear, etc.Comment by FatCheeseManTorghast was such chill fun. The torments that made it so you had to keep pulling are the worst wings. I think this is gonna make my favorite expansion feature into something else. I hope old torghast will stick around in some form, I wanted to do it on all classes.Comment by Kurokun14Stop the gotta go fast. Go back to gotta just learn the boss and makes fights more mechanics basedComment by Gukleboys we esports!Comment by StahliReally? You wanna do Torghast easy and slow? I just wanna finish it as fast as possible and never see it again for the week. This just motivates me to finish it even faster. I don't see how is this a bad thing. Especially because I have many alts that have to do Torghast for soul ash, and with my gaming time grinding slowly is bad.Comment by ChaxtonOption A: We get 570 soul ash PLUS whatever reward from speed running. This is the correct outcome.
Option B: We get some soul ash PLUS an additional amount from speed running, up to a total of 570 from that specific layer. This is what Blizzard will probably do.
Option C: Soul ash drops from enemies and you get like 100~ per run with <50~ from speed running, up to the weekly 1k~ cap. This is what Activision will probably want.

We better get Option A or better.Comment by HaxanSpeed is a good motivation to end those runs faster. Now, I always end up with the runs taking about 45 minutes, no matter how fast I try to be. This is because I wanna kill all mobs, smash all urnes, kill rats, to get the buffs needed for the last boss.Comment by DonhornPlease please PLEASE do NOT have a speed element to this. Leave that to M+ and let those of us who don't care for speed running gameplay have this thing.Comment by dextterif I wanted to play a dungeon crawler that focused on speed and deaths I'd play diablo, PoE, binding of isaac etc. This is just stupid for them to feel the need to make everything a "do it now, do it fast" speedrunning system.Comment by DhrallOh no... Now they will have to balance Torghast, leaving even LESS time for balancing the actual game.. I guess Survival Hunters will have to wait for 10.0 to be looked at!Comment by darosWith this obsession devs have on speed runs, soon if you don't kill last boss in raid within 4 hours of starting it, you won't get loot.

But on serious side.
Torghast is currently worst part of Shadowlands.. I would rather they removed it.

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