What tree? Is this like the people who insist on there being a sword in silithus? These sword and tree truthers gotta stop.
Not to knock Christie Golden, as I haven't read her work, but every excerpt and blurb I have read about Sylvanas in a very long time, whether in book recaps or the game, make me more and more disappointed in the story surrounding that character. Honestly, it's worse than Illidan, bordering on Prophet Velen level nonsense.
Except Delaryn was apparently swayed by that idea because she immediately chose to join the horde.
It's interesting to note that Sylvanas' plan wasn't that different from Elune's. Whilst Sylvanas did the torching, Elune did not intervene. And empowering Tyrande may have been a plan to increase the flow of souls to the shadowlands. Both had motivations far beyond the fourth war.And, ultimately, both plans suceeded, but in unforseen ways. The souls eventually reached ardenweald. The Cycle of Life and Death was changed.
This would have been a lot more exciting to experience in game (not knocking Golden, just disappointed with the in-game narrative). As it is, it still feels like scrambling to fix an already broken story.
Remember boys and girls, Saurfang was a good guy, despite not only being easily swayed to genocide, but also agreeing that attacking stormwind, at a time the factions were NOT at war, was a good idea in order to end said non-existent war and any future conflicts, instead of, you know, NOT starting a war with a faction that has more than enough reasons to wipe you out of existence and you had JUST tried to have a peace talks that your faction ruined. I mean damn, wheres the upteenth video about him to make him a victim.....Also im sorry, sylvanas murdered innocents to serve an evil master, not because she cared about anyone else but her own idiocy. If she TRULY cared about people seeing and being with their loved ones, she wouldn't have ordered the slaughter of the desolate council and the forsaken who were going to their family, as well as calia., which had LITERALLY just happened shortly before the war of the thorns.
Trying to explain why Sylvanas burned down Teldrassil is just like trying to explain why Daenerys had her sudden character change at the end of Game of Thrones. It's bad writing, pure and simple.No theory that you come up with trying to reconcile, justify and explain character motivations can ever work in the face of such godawful storytelling.
Really hate how Christie takes the most traumatized woman in warcraft and makes her an abuser. female characters in warcraft get painted as unreasonable and crazy for having any bit of trauma. Sylvanas was a great character and christie just has to beat her down to lift goddamn anduin up.But no orc good orc honour. Man good anduin good.
Blah Blah Blah why hasn't Sylvanas's head not been ripped off and shoved on a pike and send to permeant oblivion.
Hope after all Delaryn will go back to the Alliance.Please no Night Elves on the Horde side!
They could write an entire book saying that Sylvanas was a poor puppy that got kicked every day for eternity and it still wouldn't make her a sympathetic character. Why are they trying so hard...
Wow this is even worse lol. I thought she at least planned to murder as many people as possible from the start... but she really just decided on the spot? Omg.And her own logic doesn't even check out. If the atrocities she commits in life don't matter because they pale in comparison to the eternal afterlife that's at stake... why should loved ones matter? People you knew for 20 years pale in comparison to the love and companionship you could find in the eternal afterlife of infinite worlds, surely. And even if Blizzard were peddling the toxic 'you have only one soulmate in the whole universe (who totally happened to be that one rando you met in your tiny corner of your pathetic little world)' narrative, ending up with loved ones is not a viable structure for the afterlife, because people don't just love one person - love of family exist too, and some people have stronger bonds to actual non-relatives than to their own family. Arthas loved Jaina, but he was also loved by Terenas. Jaina loved Arthas, but also loves her family, so Derek, Tandred, Katherine and Daelin should all end up with her (and with Arthas and Terenas who should be joined by Calia). And since Kael also loved Jaina, with Anasterion too, but Jaina also cares about Anduin like a nephew so he should end up there too with Varian, and Tiffin; but Genn loves Anduin as a pseudo-son so he should join too including Tess and Mia and Liam; and Bolvar was basically Anduin's stepfather so he should go there too in the end, alongside Taelia who should be joined by Cyrus. And since Muradin loved Arthas as a brother, he should end up there too and then Brann and Magni too because they are real brothers, but then Moira too, who loved Thaurissian, and so on and so forth... And now imagine that for every soul's love for every soul that ever existed all the way up and down their family tree and their circle of friends/loves including every planet and every reality that existed. And all that added to the fact that people rarely know what they really want, as Vashj admits that sitting around in peace and luxury would have been boring for an actual eternity.It would have genuinely been better if Sylvanas went full nihilist and wanted to eradicate the Shadowlands entirely because oblivion is the only source of permanent peace or something.(Kind of like a 'I'll break the wheel' attitude, only to find out later that Zovaal wasn't trying to unbalance the wheel to break it, but to come out on top of it.)
Yay, more awful lore made-up outside of the game instead of being in the game where it belongs.
My problem with the story in WoW is not at all Sylvanas, but the grandiose scale of it all ingame. Shadowlands, after the first patch, is the first time I’ve really not cared about the story. Korthia was so random and I had no background on Zereth Mortis. And the characters were pretty uninteresting. Maybe because I didn’t really pay attention… I don’t know..
I believe rather strongly that the real real /real/ truth about Teldrassil was that it was still corrupted after all, possibly with something even worse than ever seen before.Elune knew. And the truth? Sylvanas was an infinitely more valuable agent to her than Tyrande, a liability with rabies. The only person that walked out of Shadowlands a winner is Elune, who played everyone. Elune, who is worshipped across the cosmos by races innumerable, and can spare a few purple pointies.
Have to appreciate Golden's initiative to directly say that yes, Sylvanas killed innocents and yes, she did it because she specifically wanted to. In the backdrop of a game that does everything it can to pretend otherwise of a literal genocide, it's an okay consolation prize.