I played hunter on and off since Vanilla but never tried SV.Wish I had sooner. Much fun was had levelling a survival hunter.Probably going to main it on my main hunter this xpac.You should try it if you haven't . Its much more fun than expected.
LUL that spoiler is pure gold.
I'm willing to give Survival a shot, but god it has too many things to pay attention to. Tried it earlier on rares in Icecrown (when lag allowed me to do anything), and I felt like there was too much to do. Just couldn't find the right layout of abilities on my bars that felt right either. I wish I could go mindless BM and top DPS again in Shadowlands, but I guess I'll be waiting for a long time. Learning Survival and going Beast Mastery to do the only thing that matters on Hunter (taming beasts) when I need to might be what I do for leveling if I can manage to arrange my bars to not feel so bad. I refuse to stoop to being Marksman again, and I know Beast Mastery is in a...very god awful position to say the least, but at least Survival isn't complete garbage. Not like it was in Legion.Yet another Pelagos though. I'm tired of seeing this stupid blueberry. I still prefer Night Fae's aoe, and since I will be exclusively doing mythic + with friends, I'm totally fine not seeing Pelagos any more than I'm forced to. Hate that character's involvement in Bastion.
Tbh Blizzard should replace Survival Spec with Dark Ranger Spec .... being melee as a hunter is just not worth it...
Hunter as a class just hasnt been fun since the legion changes. One of the few classes/ specs that got substantially worse in legion. Wish blizzard wasnt so prideful, so hunters can be fun again.
they could make a hybrid version work that uses a ranged weapon with steady and arcane shot. however they also need to change some other elements of the spec to make that work:- in the 7. talent row make atleast one talent function with a ranged weapon. flanking strikes (+ disengage as a combo) is usable but only deals half the damage and dont generate focus.- kill shot requires a meele weapon for whatever reason. this just needs to be changed into all weapon types- our interrupt, easiest solution is to give SV the countershot from BM/MM and make that only usable with a ranged weapon
Sure it is harder to play than most spec in the game. But my problem is not the fact that I have to get my head out of my bum to do some dps or nuke some lame 2-button class to death. My problem is it doesn't feel rewarding at all. Doesn't have any fantasy and just feels like warrior but hobo style.If I would get as rewarded as the efforts put in, then it would be fine. But no you still are bad compared to most Melee DPS and some of them are so easy to play, it's just incredible how the balancing work in this game. I would rather have BM scrapped off the game for good in exchange for a good SV.Nonetheless I'll still play it, because I like my hunter and I'm whooping peeps since 2008 with the same char so really just play it if you want, you know your own worth.
Let's summarize:- Pure dps class- Mellee spec- Has to deal with pet AI- Close to zero group/raid utility- Can't funnel dmg into your primary target- Cleave only with hydras bite talent and even then, very, very weak- Overall one of the least performing specs dps wiseBlizzard in the last 4 years:I see no problem here.
these talent choices are trash and will result in rotational dead zones
they just gave on SV. but they remembered to nerf the hell out of it. SV was unpopular id bfa but it's gonna be dead in shadowlands.in pve and raids its dmg is mediocre. in in pvp(as I tried it) you're gonna keep reviving you pet constantly to have it killed a few sec later.I don't know who is in charge of SV developing, but whoever it is they don't know what they are doing.
With limited melee slots, if the spec doesn't perform well in any regard and doesn't even have a clear niche then nobody will really play the spec and nobody will want to take them. Though all in all, Wowhead's guide to SV I'd take with a rock of salt considering the author is not a dedicated SV player.I played SV a decent amount in Legion but I consider myself rather casual. The iteration back then honestly didn't need that much to be just right... Wish it came back. Feels like Blizz has no idea what to do with the spec.
Aren't all 'ranged' classes already hybrids that can cast fireball at the boss' buttcrack if they choose to anyway? The spoiler was /pointless.
The spec is fun (MUCH more fun than the other hunters or i dare say other melees)...But need much more love from blizz (and mongoose bite as part of the kit already for god sake ¬¬).Removed