Shaman Talent Tree Changes in Dragonflight Alpha Build 44895

Dragonflight Posted 2022/08/02 at 4:44 PM by Paryah

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NEW ability Flow of Power added at 4-2

Node removed at 6-3

Aftershock and Surge of Power choice moved to 6-3 (was 6-3 old position)

Eye of the Storm moved to 7-2 (was 7-3)

Power of the Maelstrom moved to 7-3 (was 7-4)

Master of the Elements moved to 7-4 (was 4-2)

Magma Chamber moved to 7-6 (was 7-7)

Searing Flames moved to 7-7 (was 7-6)

Last BuildCurrent BuildRestoration Talent Tree Changes in Build 44895

Deluge moved to 2-1 (was 3-1)

Row 3 reworked to 5 nodes (was 3)

Healing Rain moved to 3-1 (was 2-1)

Ancestral Wolf Affinity and Stormkeeper choice moved to new node at 3-2 (was 5-1)

Water Shield retains its position but is now 3-3 (was 3-2)

Call of Thunder moved to new node at 3-4 (was a choice at 4-1)

Tidal Waves retains its position but is now 3-5 (was 3-3)

Overflowing Shores moved to a choice with Acid Rain at 4-1 (was 4-2)

Ancestral Vigor moved to 4-2 (was 6-1)

Resurgence moved to 4-3 (was 6-3)

Node removed at 5-1

Ancestral Reach and Flow of the Tides choice moved to 5-1 (was 7-1)

Wavespeaker's Blessing moved to 6-1 (was 5-2)

Lava Surge moved to 6-3 (was 4-3)

Node removed at 7-1

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Elemental Shaman baseline passive
Effect #2 REMOVED Effect #9 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat (Label) Modifies Effect #1's Value (Label)
Value: 5
Affected Spells:

REMOVED Effect #9 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat (Label) Modifies Effect #1's Value (Label)
Value: 5
Affected Spells:

NEW Effect #4 Apply Aura: Trigger Spell by Power Level Modifies Cooldown
Value: 90

Earth Shock, Elemental Blast, and Earthquake have a 25% chance to refund all Maelstrom spent.
Talent position has changed.

Increases the damage of your Flame Shock, Lava Burst, Lava Beam, and Fire Elemental by 10%.
Effect #3 Effect #2 Apply Aura: Mod Pet Stat % Modifies Effect #1's Value
Value: 2010

Effect #3 Apply Aura: Mod Pet Stat % Modifies Effect #1's Value
Value: 2010

NEW Effect #4 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - % Modifies Periodic Damage/Healing Done
Value: 10%
Affected Spells:

Effect #1 Apply Aura: Dummy Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Value: 43

NEW Effect #4 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat Modifies Effect #3's Value
Value: -5
Affected Spells:

NEW Effect #5 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat Modifies Effect #4's Value
Value: -7
Affected Spells:

NEW Effect #2 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat Modifies Cooldown
Value: -1500
Affected Spells:

Effect #1 Apply Aura: Dummy Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Value: 0.50.7

Effect #2 Dummy
Value: 57

NEW Effect #2 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat (Label) Modifies Effect #1's Value (Label)
Value: 10
Affected Spells:

Effect #1 Apply Aura: Dummy Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Value: 610

Effect #2 Dummy
Value: 12

Effect #3 Dummy
Value: 32

Casting Lava Burst has a 5% chance to cause your next 2 Lightning Bolt or Chain Lightning casts to trigger Elemental Overload an additional time.
Rank 1: Casting Lava Burst has a 5% chance to cause your next 2 Lightning Bolt or Chain Lightning casts to trigger Elemental Overload an additional time.
Rank 2: Casting Lava Burst has a 10% chance to cause your next 2 Lightning Bolt or Chain Lightning casts to trigger Elemental Overload an additional time.
Talent position has changed.

Blanket the target area in healing rains, restoring health to up to 6 allies over 10 sec.
Talent position has changed.

Your direct heal criticals refund a percentage of your maximum mana: 1.00% from Healing Wave, 0.60% from Healing Surge
Unleash Life
Unleash Life
or Riptide, and 0.25% from Chain Heal.
Talent position has changed.

Increases the healing of Chain Heal by 8% and causes it to bounce an additional time.
Talent position has changed.

Targets you heal with Healing Wave, Healing Surge, Chain Heal, or Riptide's initial heal gain 5% increased health for 10 sec.
Rank 1: Targets you heal with Healing Wave, Healing Surge, Chain Heal, or Riptide's initial heal gain 5% increased health for 10 sec.
Rank 2: Targets you heal with Healing Wave, Healing Surge, Chain Heal, or Riptide's initial heal gain 10% increased health for 10 sec.
Talent position has changed.

Healing Wave, Healing Surge, and Chain Heal heal for an additional 10% on targets affected by your Healing Rain or Riptide.
Rank 1: Healing Wave, Healing Surge, and Chain Heal heal for an additional 10% on targets affected by your Healing Rain or Riptide.
Rank 2: Healing Wave, Healing Surge, and Chain Heal heal for an additional 20% on targets affected by your Healing Rain or Riptide.
Talent position has changed.

Imbue the Shaman's weapon with earthen life which gives your Riptide, Healing Wave, Healing Surge, and Chain Heal healing a 20% chance to trigger Earthliving on the target, healing an additional (4%for (16% of Spell power) over 12 sec. Lasts 60 minutes.
Effect #2 REMOVED Effect #1 Dummy
Value: 0

NEW Effect #1 Apply Aura: Dummy Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Value: 0

REMOVED Effect #1 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - % (Label) Modifies Damage/Healing Done (Label)
Value: 15%
Affected Spells:

NEW Effect #1 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - % (Label) Modifies Periodic Damage/Healing Done (Label)
Value: 15%
Affected Spells:

Effect #1 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat Modifies Cooldown
Value: -60000-30000
Affected Spells:

Effect #1 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat Modifies Radius
Value: 12
Affected Spells:

REMOVED Effect #2 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - % (Label) Modifies Damage/Healing Done (Label)
Value: 0%
Affected Spells:

Effect #1 Apply Aura: Dummy Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Value: 150300

Reduces the cooldown of your Hex spell by 15 sec.
Talent position has changed.

Transforms the enemy into a frog for 1 min. While hexed, the victim is incapacitated, and cannot attack or cast spells. Damage may cancel the effect. Limit 1. Only works on Humanoids and Beasts.
Talent position has changed.

Purges the enemy target, removing 1 beneficial Magic effect.
Talent position has changed.

Increases Leech and Avoidance by 3%2%.
Effect #3 Effect #1 Apply Aura: Mod Rating
Value: 2
(Coefficient : 0.04641170.0297035)

Effect #2 Dummy
Value: 32

Effect #3 Apply Aura: Mod Leech % Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Value: 32

Effect #1 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat Modifies Effect #1's Value
Value: -20-15
Affected Spells:

REMOVED Effect #1 Apply Aura: Mod % Damage Taken
Value: -3

NEW Effect #1 Apply Aura: Mod % Damage Taken
Value: -2

Effect #2 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat (Label) Modifies Cooldown (Label)
Value: -2500-5000
Affected Spells:

Effect #2 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - Flat Modifies Buff Duration
Value: 60004000
Affected Spells:

Effect #4 Apply Aura: Add Modifier - % Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Value: 2512%
Affected Spells:

Comment by hashtagfredAs long as enhancement doesn't have drastic changes, I'm happyComment by orionaegis7Still waiting for Echo for enhancementComment by AerisotEnhancement just needs one change imo, and that is switch the talents Hot Hand and Stormflurry, once that is done, the tree will be near perfect.Comment by Assassin14xwasnt there supposed to be hunter and priest changes too?Comment by justkbmtI personally had no issues with restoration talent tree at all so I guess we’ll just have to see what makes this change help.Comment by MattstaEle tree still super bottom heavy.Comment by derekrhDruid and Paladin get damage throughput talents in their general trees at the bottom tiers. Meanwhile Enh got choices between spill over heals or totem resets?LUL? Look at what damage increases Enh gets from general tree, then go check Feral from their general, and then Ret from their general.

Thought they would have fixed the hybrid imba in the general trees quickly, but it looks like it won't get touched unless the pitchforks come out.Comment by BuffyangelrSham Feedback:

Bit of a shame, we can not get Ancestral Wolf Affinity AND Stormkeeper, as it's a choice node at 3-2. Both would have been great for mythic plus, for a fun playstyle. You have to give up key playstyle utility for key dps CD. This is the thing I'm most bummed about. We could keep one node at its current location, then move the second talent to a new node (at 5 between 4-2 and 6-2). Maybe they made it a choice node so PVP wouldn't be too strong, but PvE gets impacted. Also with node placement, sometimes I'm worried they care too much about the tree nodes being symmetrical, than adding accessible nodes in new/other spots.

Currently you need to spend 4 points to get to Cloudburst totem. Ideally it should be a choice node with HST at 1-3. This would allow you to get the spell, without having to sink into the amplifiers, if you wanted to spend those points elsewhere. Also, I assume Cloudburst replaces HST in DF too, but confirmation would be nice, as it does not say it replaces it in the tooltip.

Wish I didn't have to spend 2 points on Undercurrent for 1%, feels a bit underwhelming, though the points above are more of a concern.

The water shield change is good. You no longer need to get it if you want Lava surge.

Comment by justkbmtrSham Feedback:

Bit of a shame, we can not get Ancestral Wolf Affinity AND Stormkeeper, as it's a choice node at 3-2. Both would have been great for mythic plus, for a fun playstyle. You have to give up key playstyle utility for key dps CD. This is the thing I'm most bummed about. We could keep one node at its current location, then move the second talent to a new node (at 5 between 4-2 and 6-2). Maybe they made it a choice node so PVP wouldn't be too strong, but PvE gets impacted. Also with node placement, sometimes I'm worried they care too much about the tree nodes being symmetrical, than adding accessible nodes in new/other spots.
Currently you need to spend 4 points to get to Cloudburst totem. Ideally it should be a choice node with HST at 1-3. This would allow you to get the spell, without having to sink into the amplifiers, if you wanted to spend those points elsewhere. Also, I assume Cloudburst replaces HST in DF too, but confirmation would be nice, as it does not say it replaces it in the tooltip.
Wish I didn't have to spend 2 points on Undercurrent for 1%, feels a bit underwhelming, though the points above are more of a concern.
The water shield change is good. You no longer need to get it if you want Lava surge.

If I misunderstood anything, I apologize! These are my 2c only.Comment by BuffyangelIf you’re wanting just an extra point or two for something, and from what I tell it’s something not as useful as what you can already have or get anyways then I R.I.P you.Comment by DraekenDruid and Paladin get damage throughput talents in their general trees at the bottom tiers. Meanwhile Enh got choices between spill over heals or totem resets?LUL? Look at what damage increases Enh gets from general tree, then go check Feral from their general, and then Ret from their general.

Thought they would have fixed the hybrid imba in the general trees quickly, but it looks like it won't get touched unless the pitchforks come out.Comment by DraekenrSham Feedback:

Bit of a shame, we can not get Ancestral Wolf Affinity AND Stormkeeper, as it's a choice node at 3-2. Both would have been great for mythic plus, for a fun playstyle. You have to give up key playstyle utility for key dps CD. This is the thing I'm most bummed about. We could keep one node at its current location, then move the second talent to a new node (at 5 between 4-2 and 6-2). Maybe they made it a choice node so PVP wouldn't be too strong, but PvE gets impacted. Also with node placement, sometimes I'm worried they care too much about the tree nodes being symmetrical, than adding accessible nodes in new/other spots.
Currently you need to spend 4 points to get to Cloudburst totem. Ideally it should be a choice node with HST at 1-3. This would allow you to get the spell, without having to sink into the amplifiers, if you wanted to spend those points elsewhere. Also, I assume Cloudburst replaces HST in DF too, but confirmation would be nice, as it does not say it replaces it in the tooltip.
Wish I didn't have to spend 2 points on Undercurrent for 1%, feels a bit underwhelming, though the points above are more of a concern.
The water shield change is good. You no longer need to get it if you want Lava surge.

If I misunderstood anything, I apologize! These are my 2c only.Comment by Psykotika

As an Enhance main let me tell you. You're clueless. All the throughput we want in the general tree we can get easily in the first half and then we don't have to stress out and can put the rest in any utility we want. We're able to get all the throughput we need in the general tree. And then the throughput decisions we have to make is in the spec tree. We have one of the best trees if not the best in the game.

The classes who have a bunch of throughput especially at the bottom of their general trees are universally worse off, and everyone (except you apparently) agrees.

Don't be stupid.Comment by Draeken

As an Enhance main let me tell you. You're clueless. All the throughput we want in the general tree we can get easily in the first half and then we don't have to stress out and can put the rest in any utility we want. We're able to get all the throughput we need in the general tree. And then the throughput decisions we have to make is in the spec tree. We have one of the best trees if not the best in the game.

The classes who have a bunch of throughput especially at the bottom of their general trees are universally worse off, and everyone (except you apparently) agrees.

Don't be stupid.Comment by TechnoLizardA bit disappointed there is no changes to the Enh yet.

Primordial Wave and Ascendancy needs to be switched, because it doesn't make sense and the tree feels quite awkward.

The left side is more Stormstrike focused and the right one is more Lava Lash/Flame Shock focused. You really want to pair Stormstrike build in the upper left half with the Ascendancy, that is in the lower right half. Same with the Lava Lash/Flame Shock wanting to get Primordial Wave, similar to how these builds work now in Shadowlands. But in order to do that you need to go into the other side of the tree and get a few point in talents that dont really synergise with the build and additionally miss a few talents that would work well.

I think there was a post on the blizz forms that goes much more in depth with this issue.Comment by derekrhDruid and Paladin get damage throughput talents in their general trees at the bottom tiers. Meanwhile Enh got choices between spill over heals or totem resets?LUL? Look at what damage increases Enh gets from general tree, then go check Feral from their general, and then Ret from their general.

Thought they would have fixed the hybrid imba in the general trees quickly, but it looks like it won't get touched unless the pitchforks come out.Comment by Psykotika

As an Enhance main let me tell you. You're clueless. All the throughput we want in the general tree we can get easily in the first half and then we don't have to stress out and can put the rest in any utility we want. We're able to get all the throughput we need in the general tree. And then the throughput decisions we have to make is in the spec tree. We have one of the best trees if not the best in the game.

The classes who have a bunch of throughput especially at the bottom of their general trees are universally worse off, and everyone (except you apparently) agrees.

Don't be stupid.Comment by VedrenGreat to see all the shammy love for Ele and Resto, but I worry that Enh is going to be left by the wayside AGAIN. The enh tree, as it currently stands, feels like more of the same. And while I understand the Dev's desire to give a feel of continuity, I was hoping for a little more imagination, but I'm used to being the red-headed stepchild since BC.

And for the sake of all the elements, please fix the crash lightning nodes; they took a spell and split it into 3 parts that require 4 points to get back to what we have now. That is not innovative--that's bloat.Comment by Tarruinechos of great sundering is the most awful feeling situation for AoE
to have to avoid AoE'ing to do more AoE