Shadowlands The Maw and Torghast Introduction Questline Changes (Story Spoilers)

Beta Posted 2020/09/21 at 12:11 PM by Neryssa

WARNING: SHADOWLANDS STORY SPOILERS AHEAD!

The Captured Leaders

For the Alliance!: Bleeding Bloodhoof, the achievement to kill Baine Bloodhoof, is replaced by Opposing Orgrimmar, which requires you to kill Rokhan in Orgrimmar.

For the Horde!: Storming Stormwind, the achievement to kill Anduin Wrynn, is replaced by Executing the Exarch, which requires you to kill Turalyon in Stormwind.

Introduction QuestlineOld Maw Questline Version

Ve'nari: It is surprising what can you find lying around the Maw if you know where to look.
Ve'nari: Apparently this one didn't meet the Jailer's exacting specifications.
Ve'nari: No need to worry about his condition. He is content. And, you may leave here with him when our bargain is met.

New Maw Questline VersionRule 3: Trust is EarnedBloodhoof WarmaceHopeful NewsTorghast QuestlineThe Captive King

Into Torghast - Find a way into Torghast, Tower of the Damned.

The Search for Baine - Enter and explore Arkoban Hall, then slay its warden and rescue Baine Bloodhoof.

- Enter Torghast and explore Skoldus Hall, Fracture Chambers and The Soulforges.

Torment Chamber: Jaina - Find Jaina Proudmoore in Torghast.

- Enter Torghast and explore Coldheart Interstitia, Mort'regar and the Upper Reaches.

Torment Chamber: Thrall - Find Thrall within Torghast, Tower of the Damned.

Signs of the Lion - Enter Torghast and explore the Twisting Corridors for any signs of Anduin.

The Captive King - Use the Helm of Domination to peer into Torghast once more.

Comment by Guidancethe escapes from the cages are intentional or the jailer is incompetentComment by bsyfcsinRemovedComment by CopperwiseI'm glad they changed the whole Baine part of this questline. I felt Blizzard did him pretty dirty in the original. I know a lot of people aren't fond of him, but I still feel he should be treated a little better as a leader of the horde (or alliance if you feel that way).Comment by ArcaddiaAm I the only one that wishes we could visit the entrance of torghast? The tiny portal next to venari is so underwhelming to be the entrance to that place.Comment by MightylorddkAm I the only one that wishes we could visit the entrance of torghast? The tiny portal next to venari is so underwhelming to be the entrance to that place.Comment by NymrohdAm I the only one that wishes we could visit the entrance of torghast? The tiny portal next to venari is so underwhelming to be the entrance to that place.Comment by kamchatmonkThe constant focus on how Anduin is so special is a bit irritating. I get a feeling that in the end, rescuing Anduin will be our central objective, rather than dealing with the Jailer.Comment by FrimlinAm I the only one that wishes we could visit the entrance of torghast? The tiny portal next to venari is so underwhelming to be the entrance to that place.Comment by vultrazBaine literally turned from the small dog from the meme into the big one, lol. Seriously, though, I didn't exactly hate his presentation in the previous version, it had a funny note to it, like some of his previous appearances. "He didn't meet the Jailer's expectations" was not very uplifting, yes, but it could mean anything really. Obviously he cannot be as strong lorewise as Jaina, Anduin and Thrall (who has the potential to regain his shamanistic powers, as we see later), because he doesn't have any magic, for one thing. But it's still cool to see Baine crushing foes and running across the Maw instead of lying on the ground.Comment by DarknessvampTo be fair the previous version fit Baine's uselessness more and I'll personally consider this change a retcon. :PComment by NeronnEvilknightIm really glad they did this for Baine. He was described as a fantastic warrior... Seeing him being a victim each time was like a vengeance from someone on the team who really wanted him to be destroyed and hated.
Now, we see him how he should be, peaceful yes, but a fearful warrior when provoked, more than capable to wipe teams. Hope he will rest like this.Comment by kolluxthe change of baine was good.

also please guys lets leave anduin there.Comment by vultrazYeah, in "Shadows Rising" Baine was actually pretty badass, he was rallying Horde forces together with Thrall, and it was him who brought Sira down with his totem in the stomach or something like that.Comment by dek1979please tell me jaina isnt gonna be stuck in the maw forever.. i need her sagely guidance.Comment by TheLustfulmaking it sound like as if Baine was simply considered of no use and discarded by the Jailer.Comment by 1337GuyAm I the only one that wishes we could visit the entrance of torghast? The tiny portal next to venari is so underwhelming to be the entrance to that place.walk Comment by deathlavitzThe new questline needs to tweak the spawn rate for souls or it will feel terrible.Comment by Morgomircan we just leave Baine in Torghast? there are plenty of competent Tauren who could lead in his steadComment by IokiWhile at least Baine will look a bit less like Princess Peach now, how often have been forced to save him recently... But could we please stop being forced into being interested in Anduin. I don't care about the Gary Stu. Leave him there and let's forget about him, Turalyon as a leader looks much more promising, just don't turn him evil and you can have a really good storyline with a strong personality that isn't the most boring thing ever. Anduin can be the jailer's handmaid, good end for him.Comment by cephadexThe constant focus on how Anduin is so special is a bit irritating. I get a feeling that in the end, rescuing Anduin will be our central objective, rather than dealing with the Jailer.While at least Baine will look a bit less like Princess Peach now, how often have been forced to save him recently... But could we please stop being forced into being interested in Anduin. I don't care about the Gary Stu. Leave him there and let's forget about him, Turalyon as a leader looks much more promising, just don't turn him evil and you can have a really good storyline with a strong personality that isn't the most boring thing ever. Anduin can be the jailer's handmaid, good end for him.and