Hi everyone! First time I post! I am not too much into the lore so please don't hesitate to correct me, I will probably tell a lot of wrong things.Here is a theory that is tickling me: what if Arthas and Uther had set a plan to counter the Jailer's project. The idea is that before being absorbed by frostmourne, Arthas could have understand that this power was changing him into an instrument. To fight this, he looked for help from Uther and they set a plan to fight the one in the shadows which ultimately end by sending Arthas into the maw.I am still looking for a more detailed story involving Sylvanas but as you mentioned this quest of justice is far from being satisfying to me and I would have expected a deeper way of thinking from faction leaders (As the end of the video just set the fact that justice is a matter of point of view and doesn't lead to a real aim by itself).What do you think?Cheers guys
If they turn the genocidal maniac into a sympathetic tragic hero, I will be disgusted. What is even worse is that we have people who celebrate this.
Awww people are getting butthurt now, like you couldn't see she was after a grand scheme all along? Blizzard gave us too many hints already. She defeated Bolvar, but didn't killed him. Also told him "I am gonna set us ALL free. She had several chances at killing Anduin, but she didn't in the battle for Lordaeron. Even after her Mak'gora, she could have killed all of them with her new found power but she just left. And when its an expac about after life you guys are stuck at "gEnOcIdE" c'mon, even Ysera is back. Death means nothing in a video game if they want to.
99% of comments: "Wow are you all just going to ignore her genocide bc ur waifu claims it was for 'justice'? Blizzard's lore is a joke, i haven't been subbed for two years but this makes me not want to play again. Kill her & be done with it!"1% of comments: "Oh good, an interesting villain with motives which have been obvious for anyone paying attention for the last two years."
Sylvanas remains one of the most poorly written characters since the end of WrathWhat a surprise. Obvious reasons for doing this to her character dont need to be explained.
She. Must. Die. End of the story. Arthas. Illidan and Garrosh, those were the tragic characters. Now Tyrande is also falling into this pathNot gonna lie, I know I'll be saying that what some ppl said already but If she's gonna be redeemed it's the end of WoW for me.I'm just getting far too old for this kind of bull&*!@. Hitler cannot be redeemed.
Thank you.Makes me want to rip Sylvanas apart even more and place every piece of her corpse onto pikes, as a...deterrent.
I think it boils down to she's trying to justify her actions."Because I never had free will, I can't be held accountable for my actions."I've seen people in the real world try and find all sorts of twisted justification for doing evil things."I had no choice but to do these things, so you can't blame me!"When you keep in mind how she became Violent every time the idea of Hope came up. Or of the loyalist ending, where she showed her disdain for the Forsaken, all because they clung to Hope. Or in the book how she killed her own people who had any amount of Hope.Also the fact she's willing to sacrifice all these hundreds of thousands of lives to torment. That and she has actively gone out of her way to torment people, with all these factors together, she doesn't get to try and play the "I did it for the greater good" card. She just wants to be Free from the results of what she's done, regardless of the consequences to anyone else. So long as she benefits, that's all that matters. If anything good happens, well, its an unintended good side effect.And on that note, if you look at myths and stories, every attempt to change the way the cycle of life and death works has had bloody and quite often catastrophic consequences. Even if the attempt was due to good intentions, the results were almost always catastrophic. So, anyone studied up on myth had to have known that this was only going to end poorly.
meh, the writing in SL so far has not been any improvement from BFA when it comes to overarching story... the smaller zone stories are good as always, but ya :/ as for sylvanus, just another villain trying to justify their actions, we can put this to that cause man is her reasoning just stupid and bad. Like a crying child "oh boo hoo, we're not freeee", thinking case she doesn't like something she has free reign to do w.e she wants to make things her way, despite no one asking or agreeing with herand I'm sure the "amazing" twist will come where she betrays the jailer either for the god awful redemption ^&*! or to take the power for herself.
We can't even choose who we... LOVE? :O Become? Tell me!
... This is stupid.
You know, apparently she went to the Maw after her Death at Icecrown... and ever since then Every Single decision she has made from the smallest to the largest has been in a bid to keep from going back there, my question is, what did she do between her Death to Arthas (where she went to the golden fields of Bastion) to her death at Icecrown that got her sent to the Maw in the first place?
I have no choice but to kill SylvanasI lack the free will to refuse to kill a raid boss, I exist to claim that lootI can't be blamed for being true to the nature set out for me by the forces of life
Well... let me guess, Sylvanas wants your redemption and she waiting for that the jailer is stronger enough to betray him and be against him.Later it is known that the Jailer are know your true Sylvia intentions so that later the jailer kills Sylvanas and is just one more victim of the masculinity oppressor that not only blizzard but any source of entertainment is expressly demonstrated on his PC and political agenda hopefully not that?I don't know if I will be making a mistake in the last one, but since it summarizes its true Sylvia intentions, it has already become a classic movie cliche that would start badly the lore of the expansion. I still do not think to compare that it is worse than BfA YET... but hopefully from here It is all different from what I thought and it does not come to a bad plot about the history of a character that possibly ends up being the classic female PC villain that we saw in Live action Mulan.
No kidding.Sylvanas lives matter. The evil somehow become the righteous.