Permanent Misdirection Bug Used for Plagueborer Snaps in The Great Push Mythic+ Tournament

Live Posted 2021/05/30 at 5:13 PM by Squishei

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Note: We tried to replicate snapping the Wretched Plagueborer on live servers without the permanent Misdirection bug and were unable to do so, trying to replicate the factors such as making sure to Feign Death and having the party being in combat. However, applying the permanent Misdirection bug causes the Wretched Plagueborer snap to work flawlessly.

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They detonate on a timer, compared to when their health gets low.
They wouldn't normally snap, as they do not global combat the entire group. If a Hunter would Feign Death, the Virulax Blightweaver would just reset as no one else is in combat with it.

How far the Wretched Plagueborer can run before they explode.
How far the Hunter or Rogue can travel before their Misdirection ability falls off their target and timing it with a Wretched Plagueborer spawn.

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Comment by mendozinoIt is not a mechanic but clearly a bug. Misdirection runs for 8 seconds.and has a CD of 30 seconds.
The bug is that when you cancel misdirection by clicking on the buff icon only the icon disappears but misdirection lasts infinite. This is how thy could hold aggro on the plagueborer to get them snapped into the fighting area-
And indipendent from Blizzard should have fixed this blablabla, the rules are crystal clear, using a bug intentionally to your advantage is bugabuse and need to be punished.
There is not the slightest doubt that the hunter started misdiection and cancled it the same second without knowing the bug. he did that in every single run. Why? ;-)
if this is eSports where is the fairness and sportsman spirit? Shame on Echo. Lost so much reputation for a few bucks...Comment by Athinirato all the people that are crying about pulling mobs in the mists maze. this is also an exploit, true. but this is strictly for efficiency and the pride spawn. still an exploit, it doesn't make the dungeon easier tho.

problem with this MD exploit echo was using: in a competition where it's about pushing the highest keys, you can easily make the argument, that Echo wouldn't be able to complete the dungeon in time without that exploit. this is where the problem lies.Comment by Haggito all the people that are crying about pulling mobs in the mists maze. this is also an exploit, true. but this is strictly for efficiency and the pride spawn. still an exploit, it doesn't make the dungeon easier tho.Comment by flyupto all the people that are crying about pulling mobs in the mists maze. this is also an exploit, true. but this is strictly for efficiency and the pride spawn. still an exploit, it doesn't make the dungeon easier tho.Comment by Zheldorto all the people that are crying about pulling mobs in the mists maze. this is also an exploit, true. but this is strictly for efficiency and the pride spawn. still an exploit, it doesn't make the dungeon easier tho.
Comment by ThagesthoughtsOh no, who could have guessed that turning speedrunning into the primary form of endgame small-group content would lead to the proliferation of the speedrunning community's acceptance of and reliance on exploits and bugs in order to gain an advantage, or that Blizzard's regular culling of non-development staff would lead to them just resigning to letting snapping stay as-is instead of fixing it.Comment by BeaceStill no one explained how if MD bug was actually used all the time, how literally (almost?) every run they had some mobs porting to maystine/gigi and not naowh/zaelia at domina... they litterally had issues with this (as far as i noticed) every run and almost wiped for this reason every run. Obviously its better to paddle your "theory", then challenge the question. Laterally stupid hit pice of an article...

edit: im not claiming if bug does actually exist they didnt used it, however this is irregularity that should be explained, if you think they actually used this "bug".Comment by AedionMorrisI wonder if these people will also receive in-game bans and punishments for clever use of game mechanics like everyone else does when they do something similar with far less rewards on the line?Comment by SoLoR1RemovedComment by MonstroMartIf this can't be replicated by just tagging the Plagueborer and FDing and it is using a permanent MD bug then definitely an exploit and they should be banned for using it.Comment by BlackGuardyanStill someone explain my question page or two early.... and dont be a hatefull sheep.

My question is, if they actually used MD bug, why at domina mobs sometimes went to myst/gigi and not naowh/zaelia (and this was MAJOR issue)... because all of you are just clowns if you cant explain this thing... and obviously this whole site is chineese controled... and lets guess who is 2nd and creating issues... from author to a lot of comments... i guess since site is "controlled" by tencent chines can access it?https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1040388504Comment by MonstroMartThe druid tank probably needed to heal here and there while the mobs were rooted which cause threat. MD doesn't transfer than much threat specially if the mob are snapping quickly after the initial attack. Doesn't prove anything obviously but it's very strange that he would hide his UI then cast MD for no reason.Comment by InternDHStill someone explain my question page or two early.... and dont be a hatefull sheep.

My question is, if they actually used MD bug, why at domina mobs sometimes went to myst/gigi and not naowh/zaelia (and this was MAJOR issue)... because all of you are just clowns if you cant explain this thing... and obviously this whole site is chineese controled... and lets guess who is 2nd and creating issues... from author to a lot of comments... i guess since site is "controlled" by tencent chines can access it?Comment by couchpotato2013Imagine comparing a bug on live servers that actually gives you an advantage in character progression and a bug that was used in a competition that was always all about pushing as hard as they can with whatever is available to them, bugs included. And stop pretending like anyone besides those top teams could ever replicate that on a live server setting. MDI and in this case TGP is all about knowledge about the current state of the game and execution of strategies based around that knowledge. If any of the other participating team would have known about this prior to the tournament, then for sure they would have used it aswell, because again, it's the norm in speedrunning settings to use whatever is available to you to achieve the best outcome. To add to that, they started doing this from the start of the last day, so clearly if blizzard officials had something against it they would have taken action once they saw what was happening.Comment by HaggiImagine comparing a bug on live servers that actually gives you an advantage in character progression and a bug that was used in a competition that was always all about pushing as hard as they can with whatever is available to them, bugs included. And stop pretending like anyone besides those top teams could ever replicate that on a live server setting. MDI and in this case TGP is all about knowledge about the current state of the game and execution of strategies based around that knowledge. If any of the other participating team would have known about this prior to the tournament, then for sure they would have used it aswell, because again, it's the norm in speedrunning settings to use whatever is available to you to achieve the best outcome. To add to that, they started doing this from the start of the last day, so clearly if blizzard officials had something against it they would have taken action once they saw what was happening.Comment by Elvarage"Players may not use known bugs or exploits in the Great Push Tournament matches, as determined by the Tournament administration. Intentional usage of bugs or exploits may result in a time penalty being applied to your run, forfeiture of that game/match, or other disciplinary action at Blizzard’s sole discretion."

Just to be clear this is the word for word explanation of the rule for bugs/exploits. People here are just talking about it without linking or even reading it. Echo would only be punished if this was determined by the Tournament administration to be an exploit. Which it was not. Making this a valid strategy to use. Teams have been punished in the past for using bugs and exploits during the MDI, but in those cases Blizzard had communicated that those exploits were not allowed beforehand; yet the teams did it anyway. In this case no such restriction was added, so it was considered a valid strategy to use. I know a lot of the people here just hate that Echo's roster won again, but they did 100% follow the rules and even asked before using this. This was open to all teams to use, and while one other team did attempt it, they failed. This competition is about strategy and execution; don't lay blame on the one team that was obviously more prepared for that one dungeon.Comment by couchpotato2013Imagine comparing a bug on live servers that actually gives you an advantage in character progression and a bug that was used in a competition that was always all about pushing as hard as they can with whatever is available to them, bugs included. And stop pretending like anyone besides those top teams could ever replicate that on a live server setting. MDI and in this case TGP is all about knowledge about the current state of the game and execution of strategies based around that knowledge. If any of the other participating team would have known about this prior to the tournament, then for sure they would have used it aswell, because again, it's the norm in speedrunning settings to use whatever is available to you to achieve the best outcome. To add to that, they started doing this from the start of the last day, so clearly if blizzard officials had something against it they would have taken action once they saw what was happening.Comment by EchseKuhTorcheaters actually won real money today, Bad precedent set by blizzard. This allows you to abuse bugs on a global scale at this point.Comment by MonstroMartcheaters actually won real money today, Bad precedent set by blizzard. This allows you to abuse bugs on a global scale at this point.Comment by Dracodracocheaters actually won real money today, Bad precedent set by blizzard. This allows you to abuse bugs on a global scale at this point.

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