cant wait to see all these voting screenshots / posts from sub 10 keys for first 4 weeks of the season :'D pure entertainment
Deveria ainda ser penalizado com queda de rank no Raide.IO, ficar X tempo sem poder ingressar em outros grupos e, PRINCIPALMENTE denúncia para DESERTOR DE MÍTICA +. A questão é: essa marca fica até o reset ou por toda semana?
A really ridiculous system. If you're kicked from a group, does it count as leaving and will they give you the debuff? And if they kick you when the boss has 10% health just to annoy you? Pffff. Blizzard is really in the throes of decline.
Those who are creating this system really don't know the current state of the mythical plus. Many times you enter a group and there's a clown giving a ride to a person. Now with this system, you will have to stay while a clown stands at the entrance doing nothing.
It's going to take some tuning, since everyone on the internet is a monster to other people on the internet (but would never act like this irl). Once the key is going poorly, people are going to troll however they can. They may just ninja pull packs or bosses and try to wipe the group, they may pretend to be bad and keep dying on purpose, they may go into a boss and purposely do the absolute worst damage possible, or does mechanics wrong to wipe group, anything to waste your time for wasting theirs.
I get the sentiment but as was discussed on countless other threads there is just no good way to implement something like this, people will always find workarounds which will make gameplay even worse for other players. Just accept that leaving is what it is and treat m+ as content intended for premade groups and not randos so if you want to run successfully find a static group of people to play with.
Yes, yes, bring back public shaming! On a real note, this just needs a little bit of tuning and even in its existing form it's literally just that, shaming. I don't think they've stated anything about it directly effecting your ability to get into a group, just an excuse to spark a convo. "Yeah, one dude went afk and we all deathrolled to see who had to get the deserter penalty lmao" - which was something I saw someone mention that does need to be addressed, but I'm pretty sure this is like the first iteration barebones testing system just so they can figure out where and how to apply actual penalties. Also, like, the amount of people complaining about a system with no inherent negative effects is wild, some of yall are projecting LOL. You can see who you run dungeons with before you get in. Check the gear, check the I/O real quick, and either run it or dip. The issues with tanking are weird, I've seen some weird routes at like +10-12 this season but nothing that didn't end in a timed key anyways so idk where yall doomposting is coming from. Not to mention with how easy this season is, even if someone is boosting a buddy (been there, we carried him) its literally fine. It's late into the season anyways. So, if you're concerned about friends boosting friends in pugs, you should have invested more time networking and less time solo spamming keys. Add people to your friends list and talk to them, it'll be okay lol. Also the people in here whining about poor performers in your keys is whack. People are bad at the game bro, if you don't like it, group lead your own key and wait for the comp you want. Otherwise, prove how much better you are by carrying them. This season is dumb easy and I've only miss timed like, what, a single key because the entire group was just having an off day? The entitlement is crazy ngl. It's just weird to me, that: people can have such strong opinions, seem to have every answer, but are opposingly casual, have done 0 networking, and are extremely entitled. Bro if you were pushing 16+ or mythic raid this season I'd get it, but there aint no way everyone in these comment sections is a mythic raider LOL
i get blizz wants to cut down on leavers, but this should tie into the "goal" drop down or that should be a mandatory option for the key lister. if i'm trying to TIME A KEY, my goal is score (not to gear your alt or complete for crests), why do i have to stay?
This is such an amazing freaking changes, I may actually come back to the game! Wish this was done years ago but better late than never.
People said wait until they give us more information and wait until you get to test the system, somehow I'm not surprised that once again the system released by Blizzard is just as bad as everyone thought it would be
Or, here's a novel idea that requires no effort other than 10 seconds of dev time - turn off Key level reduction on failing a key at ANY level. This will hurt absolutely no one, and will benefit absolutely no one. Easiest solution. But it's not shiny or splashy so let's not do that.
