Larger Item Level Increase Between Tiers for Season 3 - Patch 10.2 PTR

PTR Posted 11 days ago by Squishei

Item Level Increase in Season 3correct Crafted Item Level

Mythic Aberrus geared players, or players in 447 gear will have gear that drops at LFR Amirdrassil difficulty (rather than Normal Amirdrassil)

The difficulty and gearing progression should feel more like the start of the expansion (Pre-Season M0 to Season 1) rather Season 1 to Season 2.

Raid Item Level

Difficulty

Amirdrassil

LFR

441-450

Normal

454-463

Heroic

467-476

Mythic

480-489

Mythic+ Item Level

Difficulty

End of Dungeon (Relative Change)

Great Vault (Relative Change*)

441 (0)

454 (0)

444 (0)

457 (0)

444 (0)

460 (0)

447 (0)

460 (0)

447 (0)

463 (0)

450 (0)

463 (0)

450 (0)

467 (0)

454 (0)

467 (0)

454 (0)

470 (0)

457 (0)

470 (0)

457 (0)

473 (0)

460 (0)

473 (0)

460 (0)

473 (-3)

463 (0)

476 (-3)

463 (0)

476 (-3)

467 (0)

476 (-3)

467 (0)

480 (-3)

470 (0)

480 (-3)

470 (0)

483 (-3)

Crafted Item Level

Difficulty

Item Level Range (Relative Change)

Whelping Crests

431-444 (-3)

Base Spark

447-460 (-3)

Wyrm Crests

460-473 (-3)

Aspect Crests

470-483 (-3)

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Comment by WeryxGreat change. It was too easy to gear in S2 and clear heroic raid. Crafted gear being 447 meant you only take trinkets and teir from vault which is not great at all. With a higher max ilvl, it makes everyone closer to a level playing field and makes things feel fresh while extending the gearing process. Just a reminder that this season, it was only 17s and higher granted updates over 426 or whatever it was, now even 10s are worth doing sort of for an ilvl upgrade, even if you got to farm it later from 17s meaning m+ gear is more rewarding early season.Comment by WeryxIm so happy about this changeComment by WeryxGood/warranted change. Item upgrade system added this season means playerbase ilvl is overall higher than would normally be, since items dropping in normal raid/lower M+s eventually end up at heroic raid ilvl. Extrapolate further for mythic raid ilvl not just from m+ but crafted also.
Higher ilvl gap means 90% of the playerbase won't already be fully normal-raid geared and actually have a reason to do normal raid. Skipping that tier entirely would cut out so much of the season's content.Comment by WeryxIm so happy about this changeComment by IncandioThey're basing their content now on group killing of rares. That means each content patch leaves the previous content patch unplayable unless you can find a group (tough) or kill the rare (also tough / not possible). It's just making recent patches as virtually dead as the old world. They need to find a way to allow these areas to remain valid after the feeding frenzy has passed. At the moment they're using band aid solutions like selling Zskera Vault keys for resources. They need a systemic solution, like nerfing Rares after each expansion, or providing bigger upgrades to gear (same thing).Comment by TwoTastyTicTacsThanks for letting me know that my gear has no value for next season, at least I don't have to pay until season 3.Comment by WeryxThanks for letting me know that my gear has no value for next season, at least I don't have to pay until season 3.Comment by EnvellI don't understand why some people are happy about this change.
Blizzard just want to devalue s2 progress and stretch s3.
Obviously they aren't happy people were pushing 16+ keys and clearing heroic first week.
And getting fully geared months before next season.Comment by DornsThey're basing their content now on group killing of rares. That means each content patch leaves the previous content patch unplayable unless you can find a group (tough) or kill the rare (also tough / not possible). It's just making recent patches as virtually dead as the old world. They need to find a way to allow these areas to remain valid after the feeding frenzy has passed. At the moment they're using band aid solutions like selling Zskera Vault keys for resources. They need a systemic solution, like nerfing Rares after each expansion, or providing bigger upgrades to gear (same thing).Comment by CJLo483 (from M+ 20+ Great Vault) means it is 2/4 Mythic track that you can upgrade to 489? So it is a buff to M+ 20 weekly reward?

Or is it upgradable to 486 (3/4 myth track) which is equivalent to mid tier Mythic raid boss?

Quite a confusing change. However, -3 ilvl (compared relatively to past patches) is not really that big of a deal.

Feel free to do the last 2 bosses of Mythic raid as they drop 489 gears since everyone is so good at this game.Comment by st1flerGreat change. It was too easy to gear in S2 and clear heroic raid. Crafted gear being 447 meant you only take trinkets and teir from vault which is not great at all. With a higher max ilvl, it makes everyone closer to a level playing field and makes things feel fresh while extending the gearing process. Just a reminder that this season, it was only 17s and higher granted updates over 426 or whatever it was, now even 10s are worth doing sort of for an ilvl upgrade, even if you got to farm it later from 17s meaning m+ gear is more rewarding early season.Comment by ApollomantisThey really need to disable season 2 tier and not keep it. That is the MAJOR reason season 2 was so easy to gear and clear raid was being allowed to keep our season 1 tier gearComment by SchattensangGreat change. It was too easy to gear in S2 and clear heroic raid. Crafted gear being 447 meant you only take trinkets and teir from vault which is not great at all. With a higher max ilvl, it makes everyone closer to a level playing field and makes things feel fresh while extending the gearing process. Just a reminder that this season, it was only 17s and higher granted updates over 426 or whatever it was, now even 10s are worth doing sort of for an ilvl upgrade, even if you got to farm it later from 17s meaning m+ gear is more rewarding early season.Comment by nyxzxzxzxI don't understand why some people are happy about this change.
Blizzard just want to devalue s2 progress and stretch s3.
Obviously they aren't happy people were pushing 16+ keys and clearing heroic first week.
And getting fully geared months before next season.Comment by SharkestRaiding is easier than high M+ so why would that get higher gear? Just curious.Comment by nyxzxzxzxI'm glad they are bringing this back.
The decreased ILVL per tier seemed fine on paper, but it felt like it did nothing helpful in reality.
A slot that isnt max ilvl always feels like it might as well be empty (and is sometimes treated as such).
Also insanely jarring switching toons between tiers, going back to an old main, and finding out that its like a week worth of gearing to effectively catch up in dps doesnt feel great. Like I grinded all this time and gear and it wasn't actually that much in the end.Comment by nyxzxzxzxI hate the fact that blizzard even caved to these lizards to make gear easier, !@#$ them i say let me earn my gear, i don't want a hand out. theres lfr for a reason.Comment by LautnerGreat change, makes m+ more releventComment by TigerAceRayI hate the fact that blizzard even caved to these lizards to make gear easier, !@#$ them i say let me earn my gear, i don't want a hand out. theres lfr for a reason.Comment by SharkestI hate the fact that blizzard even caved to these lizards to make gear easier, !@#$ them i say let me earn my gear, i don't want a hand out. theres lfr for a reason.

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