No.You want "Beat your !@#$ with a Brick" difficulty go run Heroic dungeons. Have fun in Blood Furnace without three hard CC classesMy personal experience this week: Group A ran first, cleared in 3 hours with no problems. Some of them jumped to Alts so we wouldn't need to pug for Group B, did it in a little over 3 because we were getting tired and a little fatigued.Looking forward to more Kara with the Boys and Girls this week after Gruul/Mag
It's enough to know that Karazhan is easier than half of the heroic dungeons.
Raids are a complete joke. Seriously considering dropping my subs. I would much rather have the harder raids and no accelerated cadence.
Streamers spending 30k pre raid bis while people cleared in greens and blues in 2+ hours people just min maxing and knows how to play nowdays
For me it was great fun, still took some time. And I would not say it's so super easy for everyone. On my server 130 guild did the whole Kara this week. Almost 100 only up to 8th boss, and 130 9/10. Some bosses still require using brain, some not really. But it depends on your raid quality. If I would like to play more challenging game I would be in speedrunning guild or just play something different. I progressed when I was 15, now I want to have fun with friends
No one is complaining at lack of a challenge with kara. What they're saying is the progression system is busted. Heroic dungeons shouldnt be HARDER than kara. Not that kara needs to be harder. For those who cant infer what that means, it means heroic dungeons are stupidly too hard and personally I'm just skipping that content all together and going right into raids.
I was in the pre-nerf camp, until they revealed the accelerated timeline. Now I don't care. Post-nerf is fine.Heroics shouldn't be pre-nerf either, as pre-nerf heroics are just bad numerical tuning resulting in a timesink since you're just limited to pull 1-2 mobs max and then spend a minute drinking all for about 30-40+ pulls. Real fun.
It’s classic, what do people expect?Target dummies put up more resistance than Classic content
I don't see why there can't be a toggle between the pre and post nerf versions given they are largely just numbers changes. Would be interesting to see if anyone would opt to make the raids harder given the choice.
No, no, no, absolutely not. The difficulty disparity between Heroics and raids right now is a problem, but the answer isn't to make everything so hard that half the people playing just quit out of frustration. Heroics need to be brought down, or better yet, make their pre-nerf state an option - Not forced. Add to it that sites like this one show people that Heroic dungeon gear is their PRE-raid BiS, it pushes so many people that aren't ready for heroics, into them and taints the pool of dungeon-goers even further to such a degree that pugging becomes an insufferable mess. I refuse to pug anymore because there's so many underprepared/undergeared people going into heroics, because they think the gear from the final bosses/from badges is what they should have BEFORE raid. It's so toxic for all the wrong reasons, because of all the wrong information being given to people, and the wrong takes being listened to by Blizzard.
Kara would have been cleared in like an hour ten minutes instead of an hour with pre-nerf, its been done already, its been solved and min maxed multiple times now. It's not a satisfying challenge to solve any more imo and people now days mostly just want to chill and play with friends without struggling or having to try hard, I think people are also over stating how hard heroics are too, sure I play a mage but I haven't really struggled in any heroic bar one run in BF :P
The raid difficulty is perfect. It is a sped up timeline. It does not and will not make sense to do a harder version of any raids in TBC unless the duration of the phases and the duration of TBC anniversary are extended. If you extend the life of TBC by all means give us a harder raid. If you don’t extend it, gtfoh.
No. If you want a sweatfest go back to retail.let people chill and actually have fun here.
Yes.
Seems like a bait article. No way Classic Andy’s are shocked when nerfed solved content is too easy. Spend 8 hours leveling 69-70Defeat midnight in 30 seconds. “Retail bad”
Yea im bored already, my favorite expension is watered down and im going to flee to heroics and arena to have meaningful interactions. To me there is no point to a game if i cant loose . I never liked games like farmville. I dont like parsing and i dont like speedrunning. So for me personally there is nothing left in pve.I can understand post nerf is necessary. I have seen the playerbase. I can just say that for me personally this doesnt feel like tbc. For future tbc-content there is just no way we will have any pre-nerf content. Going from prenerf t4 to postnerf t5 is an impossible step up in difficulty for the community.
