Blizzard Removes Brawler's Guild Realm First, More Heroic Vizier Hotfixes

Posted 2012/11/08 at 1:03 PM by perculia

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Blizzard

I thought I'd hop back in to this thread to share a few additional changes that we'll be hotfixing to this encounter today much as we did yesterday:

*Imperial Vizier Zor'lok will now only summon one Echo for the entirety of the final phase of the fight on Heroic.
*When Imperial Vizier Zor'lok uses a major ability in the final phase on Heroic, the Echo will now pause longer before using its major ability, and vice-versa.
*Converted players will no longer take damage from Attenuation or Force and Verve while mind controlled.

Blizzard

Yes, we’re breaking the first rule of Brawler’s Guild.

For those of you that haven’t been following along, the Brawler’s Guild is a new feature being introduced to World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria in patch 5.1. This new part of the World of Warcraft has generated a lot of excitement--not to mention a few questions--so we’re going to try to provide a clearer picture of what we’re hoping to accomplish with the Brawler’s Guild in this thread.

First, a little bit about what it is, and what it isn’t:

What Brawler’s Guild Is

A fun, but small diversion that could grow in time
A venue for a realm’s community to come together
A unique way to earn some solo PvE bragging rights
A cool place to hang out

What Brawler’s Guild Isn’t

A means of solo progression
A major patch feature accessible to everyone (at first)
A way to earn lots of in-game rewards
Proving Grounds where you can develop class skills (that’s a different feature arriving later on)

So, to sum up, we’re trying to give the Brawler’s Guild a tight knit, underground kind of feel, and we expect the Guild on each realm to slowly grow to encompass more and more of the population over time. Because invites will be so limited, it’s likely that a lot of the players that join the Brawler’s Guild will have had some kind of interaction with one or more existing members before they ever step into the ring. Finally, a smaller population will help keep the queues low for quite a while – since a big part of the Brawler’s Guild is watching other players fight their own battles, right now instancing arenas or using phasing isn’t an attractive option.

About Those Invites
Invites to the Guild will (at least initially) only be available for purchase on the Black Market Auction House. We’ve taken this approach both to control queue times, and also because the Brawler’s Guild is meant to be kind of a small, underground thing, and a way for players on a realm to come together. At first, that will happen because invites will go out from one player to another based on who buys those initial Black Market invites. After reaching a certain rank in the Brawler’s Guild, each of the new members can eventually earn one new invitation of their own to pass out to someone else on the same realm, so the Brawler’s Guilds on each realm should get progressively larger and larger over time. We may also investigate alternate methods of acquiring invitations or making them more plentiful.

World First?
We’ve also decided that attaching a realm first style achievement to the Brawler’s Guild isn’t necessarily the right move. Rest assured that there will be other achievements to earn in the ring though.

We know you’ve got questions, so ask away, and we’ll try to clarify where things are hazy.

Comment by 627828This post was from a user who has deleted their account.Comment by link55557Hey, that's alright then. Not that a world first achievement was ever alluring to me.
I'm sure it was to some people, but removing it = less competition, and I'm all for that.Comment by InygoThat realm first was really annoying me. It was basically going to be a purchased achievement. I'm glad that they removed it. It probably would have gone to some gold farmer anyways.Comment by 979234This post was from a user who has deleted their account.Comment by ExcelionThat realm first was really annoying me. It was basically going to be a purchased achievement. I'm glad that they removed it. It probably would have gone to some gold farmer anyways.Comment by 173647Still think that only way to get invite is by buying it off BMAH is not the best option. Since that is not an invite that is membership.

We have Ring of Blood and similar arenas, achievements that require of you to kill rare spawns and I believe those things can be used as a way for players to get an invite. Kill xy rare bosses, get the specific ach. grab the attention of the Guild, prove that you are material for them and as reward get the invite, they could make it that invite is exclusive to that player. And if you are player with enough money but without wish to grind for the invite leave it as an option BMAH. Hell make unique first boss for them, I don't know... a goblin shredder with golden fist for the "golden-boy"...Comment by WordsofIvoryWhat I wonder is, will it be balanced so that every class can kill them all? I'm fine if they balance it so you can't beat it with every class and specc. But every class should have a build that can (possible) kill them all.Comment by 979234This post was from a user who has deleted their account.Comment by MantrhaxSoh the people into the brawlers club will pay more than 15$ ? because if u guys put a content on the game that only a few can use it, i want a discount on my subscription.Comment by InterestThat realm first was really annoying me. It was basically going to be a purchased achievement. I'm glad that they removed it. It probably would have gone to some gold farmer anyways.Comment by 331902This post was from a user who has deleted their account.Comment by InterestGreat, another great example of crybaby power.

A lot of what is wrong in this game is due to changes made because some entitled little jackass couldn't get their own way so whined constantly about it until changes were made.Comment by ApodicticThat realm first was really annoying me. It was basically going to be a purchased achievement. I'm glad that they removed it. It probably would have gone to some gold farmer anyways.Great, another great example of crybaby power.

A lot of what is wrong in this game is due to changes made because some entitled little jackass couldn't get their own way so whined constantly about it until changes were made.Comment by ZoeteklemGreat, another great example of crybaby power.

A lot of what is wrong in this game is due to changes made because some entitled little jackass couldn't get their own way so whined constantly about it until changes were made.Yes, we’re breaking the first rule of Brawler’s Guild. Comment by whichwitchSoh the people into the brawlers club will pay more than 15$ ? because if u guys put a content on the game that only a few can use it, i want a discount on my subscription.Comment by 1052534This post was from a user who has deleted their account.