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Comment by SoooWhoCares

This talent is a good all around talent for PVE and PVP.

The reduced cooldowns help you to get away from trouble but since they don't grant you any bonus effects like the other talents you'll have to know what to do. Blindfiring any ready CD in the hope of "things will work out" won't result in things working out.

The main use here is the flexibility you get. For any benefit of this you'll have to know what you are doing.

Your other talent choices are:
Posthaste
Narrow Escape

I left a (hopefully helpfull) comment there, too.

Comment by Sxeros

For those "not old enough" or who merely do not know: This talent is reference to "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon", kung-fu movie which came out in 2000.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190332/ - Movie page in IMDB

Comment by Menardis

I would strongly recommend Glyph of Disengage in PvP (and even in PvE) in conjunction with the talent.

Why?

Readiness is being removed and Disengage will now have two charges, along with www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/spell=19263.Narrow Escape, will no longer be a physical root, but a dispellable one in the form of the Nature school (which leaves me to presume that if you are interrupted during pet rez, or worse, blanket silenced, then you MAY not be able to use disengage AT ALL -- or at least not be able to apply the debuff. Any confirmation of this from PTR testers would be nice).

This leaves the other talent, www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/spell=109215. With two charges of Disengage, this suddenly sounds a lot more appealing. Who doesn't want two instant cast root breakers and a speed buff?

With the imp Disengage glyph and the Crouching talent, you can effectively move up to 50 yards anywhere in optimal conditions. That will be the furthest and possibly the fastest anyone in the game can manage that distance on foot, with personal talent and specialisation cooldowns only. And this is with a 15 second cooldown.

To further clarify, against Posthaste, this glyph and talent combination will grant the maximum movement efficiency and less downtime. Once you get used to the glyph and you know where you'll land, it is far better to simply be there immediately (including PvE) rather than wasting time avoiding obstacles, speed buff or not, and benefit from temporary spot location buffs for the longest time possible before moving -- one way to recover from the dps loss incurred for raiding Hunters by the loss of Readiness. Even with the movement speed increase and root trinket in PvP, it is vastly better to just move instantly out of range of most stuns from melee classes after Scattering / Trapping or Silencing them. The superior cooldown will also reward good, situationally aware Hunters that kite by pratically ensuring that nothing short of the other guy blowing a bunch of cooldowns to close the gap will let them touch you.

It also moves you out of combat range out of anyone if you use it twice - spells have a maximum range of 40 yards - unless they use their own gap closers... But this is why you can Deterrence and use Aspect of the Cheetah, or alternatively, Feign Death and mount up. If that isn't enough, you can also follow the Feign with Camoflague, so players struggle to target you long enough for you to be long gone. You can effectively terrorize entire CTF maps, especially as an engineer.

As someone else stated, it can also get you UP on ledges, providing more windows in almost any situation where you know the terrain well enough to take advantage of it, from LoS'ing to training melee to the lower level of Dalaran sewers and then Disengaging back up while they need to take the stairs.

I will be very interested in all the ways this will work if this goes to live.

Comment by Anedill

I'll always misread this as 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Camera'.

Comment by 1129083

As I cannot count on healers to save my life as a hunter, I rely solely on Hunter heals. This talent with Glyph of Liberation allows extra healing and a bit of a help to survival. Mixed with glyph of animal bond, glyph of deterrence, and a Spirit Beast, I typically top heals when there are no healers in the game.

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Crouching Tiger, Hidden Chimera

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Chimera

Talent

Reduces the cooldown of Disengage by 10 sec, and the cooldown of Deterrence by 60 sec.

Spell Details

Duration

n/a

School

Physical

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

n/a

Cost

None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

n/a

GCD

0 seconds

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Modifies Cooldown (11)
Value: -10 seconds
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Disengage

Effect #2

Apply Aura: Overrides Actionbar Spell

	Deterrence

PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Deterrence

Effect #3

Dummy
Value: 60000
PVP Multiplier: 1
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Is Ability
Passive spell
Cast time is hidden
Aura Points On Client
Spellcast Override In Spellbook

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Chimera

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