Да потому что на ханта нет больше фамильного оружия, за эмблемы героизма, которое бы прибавляло АП питомцу :)
Но это конечно же не значит что данные ножи не подойдут другим классам.

Комментарий от latunb

народ подскажите а на него можно мангуст чарнуть ?

Комментарий от 458887

уважаемые, посоветуйте, что лучше повесить для роги на пару таких кинжалов - огненное оружие или крусейдер?

Комментарий от 563374

Надпись (912 сила атаки питомца) - всего лишь неверный перевод. На самом деле подразумевается, что нож дает 912 силы атаки на 80м уровне ДРУИДАМ в форме зверя (англ. feral - животное, превели как питомец).

Соответственно, кинжал лучше всего подходит и .
а) Разбойникам потому, что этот кинжал медленнее (следовательно, имеет выше урон с удара способностями), да и по характеристикам для нанесения урона лучше аналогичного за Осколки каменного хранителя - Отточенный алый крис.
б) Для охотников, собственно, это единственный вариант фамильного оружия с ловкостью, т.к. друидский Переналаженный лавовый отвал с ловкостью они носить не могут.

В качестве чар для оружия здесь лучшими являются следующие:
1) Чары для оружия - рыцарь - для разбойников до 60 уровня. 100 силы от срабатывания чар дают бОльший эффект, чем другой вариант чар, да и дополнительное лечение разбойнику не помешает. Не вариант для охотников, т.к. срабатывают чары лишь в ближнем бою.
2) Чары для оружия - ловкость I - для разбойников после 60 уровня и для охотников всех уровней. После 60 уровня эффективность рыцаря снижается, потому 30 ловкости (в сумме на двух кинжалах) будут выгоднее.

Комментарий от 977366

Немного расчетов для твинков-разбойников 24 уровня.
Данный кинжал является далеко не самым удачным вариантом для правой руки из-за своей скорости. Гораздо лучше будут следующие ножи (по убыванию):

В среднем у хорошо одетого твинка-райзбойника на 24м уровне будет 600+ силы атаки. В свою очередь 600 силы атаки дают (600/14) = 42,86 урона в секунду. В зависимости от скорости ножа увеличивается и урон удара:

при скорости ножа 1.80: 42,86 * 1,80 = 77,15;
при скорости ножа 1.70: 42,86 * 1,70 = 72,86.

То есть более медленные синие ножи получают бОльшую прибавку к урону от силы атаки, чем быстрый фамильный. У фамильного ножа на 24м уровне урон составляет 21-39 единиц. То есть с учетом силы атаки урон будет равен 94-112 единиц. В свою очередь урон синих ножей составит:

Поскольку расчет урона от специальных атак, в том числе от Внезапный удар, расчитывается именно от урона оружия в правой руке, то на 24м уровне синие ножи (даже для 20 лвл) оказываются выгоднее, чем фамильный.

Комментарий от Irandatka

в 5.4. при наличии 870 Очки справедливости обменивается на Мстительный пронзатель сердец

и ДАЕТ бонус для персонажей выше 80го уровня.

Shamans can always grab the Bloodied Arcanite Reaper. It's not like they'll be Dual Wielding much before 40, anyway.
Edit: Post preserved for clarity. Shamans rejoice! Venerable Mass of McGowan is perfect for your levelling needs. 40 upwards, that is. You're still probably better off using a Bloodied Arcanite Reaper up until that time, where Dual wielding kicks in.

Комментарий от kigiri

stat @ lvl 19
15 dps
+2 agi
+8 AP
+1 Hit Rating

You can enchant it, but it's a lvl 1 item so no moongose :'(

Комментарий от Kodain

Oh man...

Any oldschool rogue knows of this weapon, and how it used to shine; I remember watching this pvp vid of a rogue, before I started playing the game, and he had the Heartseeker. I then decided I'd become a rogue, and acquire that dagger.

Then AV came and everyone ran around with the welfare Lobotomizer, and I thought "Screw that, I'm making a Heartseeker".

This dagger is the what Arcanite Reaper is to axes, and deserves respect.

ALL HAIL OLDSCHOOL ITEMS!

Комментарий от Kodain

You mean uncomfortable speed BEFORE the normalization, when daggers like Barman Shanker ruled due to its slow attackspeed. After normalization sure there were other daggers around that were better, but this dagger was by no means bad.

And do note: If we're talking really early game here, when MC hardly was around, this dagger was among the best you could get, until Gutgore Ripper.

You know, the time when AV had barely been introduced, and there were no welfare weapons like TUF and Lobo?

It is, like AR, one of those pinnacle items from Blacksmithing that became relics when MC got introduced and they normalized a lot of attacks, but still AR is considered a classic, why shouldn't its dagger equivalence be considered that as well?

Комментарий от Factsfountain

I'd transfer this among my alts. These heirloom items look very useful seeing as you can level with them all the way to 80 without ever having to actually change gear.

Комментарий от 96362

Blue post: We intend to expand the types of ways that Heirlooms can be attained but for now they are only purchasable via Emblems of Heroism (the new BoJ) and Stone Keeper’s Shards, which are attained by killing any dungeon boss in Northrend while your faction controls Wintergrasp.

Read more here

Комментарий от Kodain

Also, it's silly to call the lobo or TUF or TIO "welfare items". If we are talking about the OLD DAYS, then you should remember what a pain in the ass AV was. Battles on servers would gruel on for several hours at a time, and stretch over into whole days. There was nothing welfare about the honor grind back in those days.

Aye, I may have been out of line there; You made me remember the first AV I ever entered, which lasted for 10h40m.

I withdraw my previous statement.

Комментарий от Davethesloth

This item is also one of the many new Bind to Account items.
This means you can send it to any character on your Realm/Faction.
When using a Character Realm Transfer these items will also follow you.

Комментарий от malystryx

If you're curious as to how this item scales down with your character's level (for purposes of twinking or general curiosity), you can use the LINK button at the top of this item page to link the item in-game: the WoW client will automatically scale the item stats down to your character's level for you. This works with all the other Heirloom items as well.

Steps in case you are unfamiliar with how to use Wowhead item links:

Click the link button above, there will be a popup window with some automatically highlighted text.
Copy the text (Windows: Ctrl-C, Mac: Cmd-C) and close the popup window.
Open (or switch to) WoW and press Enter to open up your chat dialog.
Paste the code into the box (Windows: Ctrl-V, Mac: Cmd-V) and press Enter.
A message in white text will appear in your chat log followed by an item link.
You can click this link to view the details and can Ctrl-click it to view it on your character.

Thanks goes to mynameiscoffey for creating the helpful "how to" steps, original comment found here.

Комментарий от 250447

So just for pure curiosity ... what are the stats of this item on a lvl 19 player :D? (Twink ofc) i just didn get the whole part with the links that was mentioned above :(
I hope my question gets an answer :)
TYVM in responce for answering:)

Комментарий от 238760

it stinks that this is the only good heirloom weapon for feral druids. and the only good offhand for shamans

Комментарий от 286999

On lvl 19 are this the stats:
One-Hand dagger
17-33 damage 1.70 speed
(15.0 damage per second)
2+ Agilty
requires lvl 1 to 80 (19)
Equip: increases attack power by 8
Equip: improves hit rating by 1.

Комментарий от 267259

Can this weapon be dual-weilded?

Комментарий от 241190

What enchants can be attached to this dagger?

Комментарий от Mazzacr

Only enchants with no level requirements. Sorry, no mongoose for it.

Комментарий от 297301

A friend and I were having a discussion about whether the weapons could be given to another alt after being used by the first alt. Could you potentially use the weapon as a hand-me-down? Or is it bound to the toon that uses it?

Комментарий от AngryBuddha

The item is bound to your account. You can send it to your rogue and level for a bit, then send it to your hunter and level him a bit. When you get tired, you can then mail it back to your rogue and let him use it.

Комментарий от 298362

Can we use 2x Balanced Heartseeker for mutilate spec ?

Комментарий от Winterstrife

Yes, you can DW 2 of these babies, they're not unique.

Комментарий от karlusdavius

BoA heirloom items do not have durability, therefor do not need repairing.

Комментарий от 233515

Not really with the upcoming druid changes, where FAP is history. However the FAPbonus will be generated out from an items dps. I'm guessing there's gonna be hellofalot of whine when druids begins to roll on the 2h maces of warrs/dk's ^^

Комментарий от Vapes

What combination of the 4 potential rogue heirlooms would be the best?

I was wondering if it would be two Heartseekers, or the two swords.

Комментарий от 304427

So the +15 Agility will work on it :)

Комментарий от 252035

At level 19:

17-33 damage
15.0 dps
+2 Agility
+8 AP
+1 Hit

Комментарий от Stiletto

Ive been using this to lvl up to 39.

If i wanted to put mongoose on it, does that mean i'll never be able to use it at 29 o 19 again? or would the enchant just not work.

Комментарий от 105402

Apparently the Feral AP bonus for Druids doesn't work until you reach level 58, just like the spellpower bonus on Dignified Headmaster's Charge which suddenly increases dramatically at level 58.

My guess is that Blizzard wants to see more players leveling up as Balance.

Комментарий от 88333

Heirloom items get a huge stats increase at level 58 and 68 because they are supposed to be on par with respectiverly OL and NR blue items of those same lvls.

Simple as that :P

Комментарий от Faradize

2* Balanced Heartseeker is the best for hunter.
enchant it with https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/spell=23800#comments , and you will pawn.

Комментарий от 321422

The Heartseeker was old-school rogue gear before people could even clear Molten Core, along the same lines as the Arcanite Reaper. It's very fitting as an heirloom item, if you ask me.

Комментарий от dozla

so can you enchant this item or no?

Комментарий от Eero

You can enchant it with enchants that does not have any lvl req.
Example: Чары для оружия: ловкость

Комментарий от Wisdomsword

Crusade can work on any of the BoA

Комментарий от TalonX

would these work for DW as hunter for lvling? maybe stack some +15 agi chants on them.

Комментарий от sharpyx1

2x both enchanted with is an amazing setup for both Rogues and Hunters - Rogues might go for a slower main hand depending on spec, but for Mutilate spec these are perfect! The agility boost from the enchants is great because I have yet to find a 2h weapon or 2x 1h weapons that manage to give me more.

It is a solid purchase to be honest - well worth it if you are looking for some fast and imba dps.

Комментарий от 151638

Is it possible to DW on a hunter with Venerable Dal'Rend's Sacred Charge and the Balanced Heartseeker or should i just get 2 Balanced Heartseekers

Комментарий от sharpyx1

You can have in your main hand as it is a main hand only weapon, and the in your offhand. You you just need to make a choice which you would rather have.

Sword: less attack power than the dagger, no agility or hit but has a nice amount of crit & stamina.
Dagger: no stam or crit but has agility, hit and a lot more ap than the sword.

Комментарий от patfactorx

What are ferals supposed to use in their OH if they use this weap?

Комментарий от 43387

Well I have been busy doing heroics and I did get two of these with https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/spell=23800
Also for lowel levels 1-13 I did get https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=18329 to helm and https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/spell=13948 to gloves, so I really had really speedy weapons here as speed is 1.7/1.52=1.118

My full setup is going to be
2x https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=42944 with https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/spell=23800
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=42946
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=42952

With proper enchants to each as available. Rest of gear changes along leveling so don't bother with it ...

I did quickly calculate that you can get atleast 15+7+15+15 which is staggering 52 bonus agility to gear at level 10, which means that you are really imba, which adds huge amount of avoidance, crit and 22 AP, which is ~1.5 DPS

Which gave like 1.19 Attack speed, and with Slice and Dice it went below 1.0, which was kind of wicked to be...

I gotta say that these are really nice rogue daggers to have, no need to worry about DPS etc.

Комментарий от 260714

at level 59:

60-112 damage
51 DPS
8 agility
29 ap
6 hit rating

best for level 59.

Комментарий от 313217

As was stated earlier on post number 3 or 4 I think. Heirloom items stay at ilvl 1. You cannot enchant something like Mongoose on this dagger. Strangely you can enchant them with fiery we can say. Lvl 37 druid currently and fiery procs, but would have liked Mongoose on it.

Комментарий от 364059

is this ok 4 a drood?

Комментарий от 349245

At lvl 67 it has a dps on 65 and lvl 68 its 91... quite a jump in dps i would say :)

Комментарий от butHa

it's possible to send this weapon to my friend or not. he is on the same realm and faction.

Комментарий от 35804

Solid Sharpening Stone will not work on this dagger. It states the item level is to low. So far, instant, deadly, wound posions I & II are working on these.

Комментарий от 304287

Well I am not very fluent in stupid but i shall give it my best translation.

does it get worse in damagge if ur lvl 1 if not duel weild i thnik i win in duel

Translation: Does it get worse in damage if you're a level 1? If not, dual wielding them? I think I would in win a duel!

It's hard to make out just what he/she/it is asking here but. Does the weapon get worse in damage. Not really.
Here me out here. It has been said many times that it scales with level. That and it will be as if you had a blue(/Good) item for your current level. All perfectly true.

So... at level 1 it's damage will be lower than whats shown here... Why? Simple, that is because it's current level is for a level 80. And not that of a level 1. Thus it would have "worse in damage if you're a level 1" but would still be the best of the best for your level.

Dual wielding these doesn't mean you will win a duel. Skill and items all effect that. Maybe a bit of luck too. But if you got the time and emblems for getting two of these and want to dual wield them. Go ahead. Will still look nice. But a level 1 dual wielding these may not be the best idea for every one. Like for a rogue... Some may want to have the Heirloom sword as well. Just a thought.

Комментарий от 373376

It's worth noting that the heirloom weapons do not have durability. Aside from the obvious convenience of never having to spend money on repairing them, this is also VERY good for leveling up your weapon skills for certain achievements. This weapon will never break.

Комментарий от 423555

Is there some bug here? This dagger has 142-265 dmg at lvl 80, not 185 - 344 o.O

Комментарий от killerpet

I'm assuming you can't send this item to a character in a different faction, BUT on the same Account?

no you cannot

Комментарий от 456593

this weapon lvled my alt rogue to 73 so far and i love it with the yellow shoulders its easy lvling

Комментарий от JohnsonQPew

A few notes to baby hunters who are considering this weapon. It is a *great* hunter weapon for most of vanilla content. Dual-wield it with any green "of power" weapon if you are leveling as BM, or, in the mid-30s, with https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=10823.

But once you start getting into outland gear, it becomes harder and harder to find a pair for this beauty that will match the stats on a good 2 hander, and that's even taking into account the slightly better enchants for 2 1 handers vs 1 2 hander. (unless, perhaps, you sink another 60 seals/40 emblems and dual wield 2 heartseekers).

For example, not long after hitting Hellfire, you can run ramps and pick up https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=24155. That's 56 AP + 27 agi = 83 AP and around .7% crit. Compare to dual wielding the BH with https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=24020, also from ramps. With that combo you get 60AP and around 1% crit, along with .6% hit from the BH. Clear win for the 2 hander, although within a few levels some better 1 handers become available again and you can dual wield a bit longer (although, as some people have alluded to, you CANNOT put wrath-level enchants on this dagger, while you can put wrath-level enchants on almost all BC gear).

Then once you hit wrath content, the curve gets even steeper. I'm not aware of anything easily available at 70 (outside of getting into high level BC retro raids, good luck on that at 70) that would pair with BH and beat, say, https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=37461.

Yes, the hit on the heartseeker is nice and rare on leveling weapons, but minimal and I've never paid much attention to hit while leveling. It's also nice to keep a weapon without replacing it, but you're going to have to continually replace the dual wield pair anyways, so that minimizes the convenience.

Not slagging on it too much because, as I said above, it's a hard weapon for hunters to match from levels 10-60, when good weapons are probably hardest to find. But I thought prospective hunters should be aware before dropping the seals that it *may* only be a reliable weapon for you for about 50 levels.

Комментарий от 221214

Can you send this or other heirlooms to an ally at same realm or does it have to be a horde? and if it doesn't work, why not? there can only be one player in one realm named for example: rykloy. So what will happen if I send it to a char that for example named Rykloy? Will it say: Can't send mail to the opposite faction or what?
Help appreciated!

Комментарий от triface

It says on the tooltip here that it adds:
17 hit rating
81 attack power
343 spell power

Best hybrid weapon ever.

Комментарий от 473855

After using this on my rogue i sent it to my new created priest char, but it doesen't provide SP. Don't understand why on wowhead it says that it provides SP.

Комментарий от 368203

this seems to be the best heirloom wep u can get for a hunter or is there a better?

Комментарий от 400785

These items are called Heirloom items which can be purchased with Emblems of Valor, Heroism, and Conquest and Stone Keeper's Shards. They are useful for leveling low level characters as they provide excellent adds to your leveling experience.
1. They give an extra 10% Experience gain from killing monsters and completing quests.

2. They provide decent attribute gains for that level character. A level 1 character usually gets say about +3 or +4 for that attribute.

3. They are Bind on Account which means they can be sent throughout all of your characters of the same faction on the same realm which would be very helpful so you would not have to buy multiple sets of the same item and spend time and Emblems/Shards on the item.

Hope this Helped :D

Комментарий от 246123

how good would this be for a hunter?

Комментарий от 414970

With the 3.3 changes to Rogues (Specifically, Dual-Wield from level 1), you could buy a pair of these babies and use them starting from level 1. Not sure why you would do this since Mutilate is still a level 50 talent, but there you have it. Dual-wield stabby goodness from level 1.

Комментарий от yodadoe

Feral Druids use the Repurposed Lava Dredger.
Shamans dual-wield Venerable Mass of McGowan.

Комментарий от Rogueimbacritter

Very cool weopen dual wieled it using my rogue. does lots of damage!

Problem is you cant put mongoose on it... although +15 agi and crusader work very well on it!

Комментарий от 524224

why cant you mail the item to another realm? its BOA

Комментарий от warscept

This is very helpful - thank you. Now I know exactly what to prepare for my incoming worgen rogue :)

Edit: Here are the rogue PvE heirlooms (with seal costs):

Shoulders (60):Stained Shadowcraft Spaulders
Chest (60): Stained Shadowcraft Tunic
Dagger (60x2):Balanced Heartseeker (sub in the sword if you prefer, same seal cost)
Ranged (95):Charmed Ancient Bone Bow
Trinket (75): Swift Hand of Justice

Total Seals needed: 410

Just to be complete, I'd also try to get the Dread Pirate Ring from the Kalu'ak Fishing Derby.

Комментарий от 301127

What are best for a rogue:
Enchant: Balanced Heartseekerx2 with 15 agilityx2 , totally 30 agility.

Or

Enchant: Balanced Heartseekerx2 with Crusaderx2?

Комментарий от 583502

+30 Agi, cos you benefit more with 30+ agi if rogue, 15 agi and 15 agi/Lifestealing is what i'd go.. Rogue has no healing spells so lifestealing is always a plus.

Комментарий от 70784

I am highly suprised that people have not mentioned that a pair of these are great for hunters as well. Ya Ya, all the "Only for hunters" set aside, I have managed to get 2 of these that I eventually will put on my rogue, but for now my hunter has the Heirloom bow, PVP shoulders, & chest and I am rocking the levels right now.

Комментарий от 647614

Can anyone tell me the new prices of heirlooms in WotLK after patch 4.0.1 dropped?

Комментарий от 303818

Why on earth has the cost of heirlooms skyrocketed in patch 4.0.1? They used to cost a large number of Emblems of Heroism which took a while to amass any excess of other badges to convert. Now with only a month or so to go before Cata release when people have little to do other than level alts, they suddenly cost at least 4x more than before!

The justification given is that at 85 we will miraculously be earning so many points that level 80 items become supercheap. Except I fail to see what possible justification or relevance this has to a level 80 trying to purchase level 80 items who does not own the Cataclysm expansion and furthermore Cataclysm is still many weeks away from release!

Its even more unfair to those who had been stockpiling badges to use for heirlooms and were just short of them before purchase.

Комментарий от eikiusagi

the cost is wrong ( 2175 not 348).

Комментарий от 467383

What is the Champion's Seal cost of this item in 4.0.3?

Комментарий от 719384

in truth the wowhead boss calculator is wrong as it will take 31 boss kills at lvl 85 to get enough jp for the low priced items

Комментарий от 751148

Im going to roll a rogue now when cata is here it going to be sub specced and i wonder what heirlooms i should use two daggers or dagger in mh and sword in oh?

Комментарий от 776493

Perfect for levling an assasination rogue, I did it with full heirloom :)

Комментарий от 655089

Go for two daggers if possible and 15+ agility on both, pvp is fast at low levels the heal aint worth it if you want something with RNG heal get crusader, besides you are a rogue, if you dont get first strike you will proberbly die anyway or need to run away which also means no weapon proc.. But with 2x15 agility and the beeing sub you will get 30% more agility from sinister calling. if you also get the 15+ agility on gloves and 225 skinning you can have 70% crit at level 10 + 66-70% dodge. Pretty awesome for a twink or even for leveling was level 30 till my overall crit dropped below 30% and with ambush talents giving you 60% after level 13 or 17 if you take stealth first its still a pretty certain crit. agility is the best choice.

till 70 i would stick with these daggers then buy cheap brutal dagger for honor till 77 then you can get better boe green cata daggers. if you feel for it and can afford it throw mongoose on the brutal daggers for extra fun, if your just leveling without doing pvp dont bother.

Комментарий от 356955

Heirlooms are now Bind to Battle.net Account so you can mail them to another account as long as it is attached to the same Bnet account.

Комментарий от 968982

For level 20 trial Twinks that will be using daggers, I would recommend Wicked Daggers over these, as they can be easier to get, have the same agility with the addition of 3 stam and 1 extra crit rating, you will lose 1 hit rating but oh well.

Комментарий от Mookosh

As of 5.2, the Level 80 Heirloom weapons and armor can be upgraded to scale up to level 85

Cost is the original item and either Darkmoon Faire Prize Tickets, JP (for heirlooms purchasable with JP) or Honor (for PvP itemized heirlooms purchased with honor)

1-H Weapons: 2175 Honor/JP or 110 Darkmoon Faire Tickets
2-H Weapons: 3500 Honor/JP or 130 Darkmoon Faire tickets
Armor: 2175 Honor/JP or 110 Darkmoon Faire tickets
Trinkets: 2725 Honor/JP or 130 Darkmoon Faire Tickets

Комментарий от ifjkl

Reduced upgrade costs for heirloom items with patch 5.3:

This item will then upgrade for 870 instead of 2275 JusticePoints. You will safe 1405 JP !
So, don't buy now, wait till patch 5.3 hits live servers!

(Source: Patchnotes PTR 5.3, build 16781)

Комментарий от Runemauler

I highly recommend you check out Чары для оружия - меткость when considering an enchant for your One-Hand Heirloom weapons!

Комментарий от Maddhawk

As of 5.4 you can now use all weapon enchants. At lower levels enchants scale down for the content a player will be going through so high level enchants will not be broken for pve and pvp content alike. You can find a compendium of all enchants and their scaling here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0AnBPvCvqWJ3udENtVlVmcjA4Q3ZQWmZKWHE3c201UXc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=17

Комментарий от firerage430

Best set of weapons for a Rogue cant get enough of the PVP Enchants are always great for these weapons

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Одноручное	Кинжал

Урон: 221-411	Скорость 1.70

(186.00 ед. урона в секунду)
+36 к ловкости
Рейтинг меткости ++17.
+30 к критическому удару

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Этот предмет приобретается в Штормград (4), Даларан (3), Ледяная Корона (2), Оргриммар (2), и Остров Новолуния (2).

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