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Comment by Shuror

This piece is optimally itemized for Druids who intend to DPS in Cat form.

Even though it is lacking in the stamina department, you can easily fit stamina on other pieces or even put stamina gems in it.

Comment by 19388

Using Emmerald's numbers (and adding SotF), puts this chest less than 2 points lower than Nordrassil on pure sustained dps, making this the best cat dps chest until you can get T5.

Comment by 6918

With the best blue DPS gems that match sockets (BLR, SNE, GNT):

+44 Strength
+48 Agility
+18 Stamina
+12 Hit

With three BLRs:

+56 Strength
+40 Agility
+12 Stamina
+8 Hit

8 Agi 4 Hit versus 12 Strength. Could make an argument for either route DPSwise but matching sockets makes a more well-rounded item.

Comment by rozel

This is craftable by any Leatherworker at 365 skill and Revered with The Violet Eye.

It will be available in Patch 2.2.

Comment by Riven

This is a 'pure DPS' chestpiece for feral druids. It is actually quite similar to the Malorne breastplate for DPSing purposes ( Forget using Shadowprowler's for tanking. Heavy Clefthoof will work better.) so IF you have T4 and it is socketed for DPS rather than tanking, this isn't really enough of an upgrade to warrant the use of all of the materials it takes. On the other hand, if you don't raid, or your guild can go through Karazhan but not Magtheridon, this is a fantastic item to have made because it is so very similar to T4 for DPSing.

If you have Malorne and want to keep it as a purely tanking chestpiece, you have the option get the Shadowprowler's made and socket it up for pure DPS.

For all the feral druids who are using the Chestguard of the Conniver, throw that thing out and get Shadowprowler's made. It is much better catered to the feral druid and is the first real epic feral chestpiece outside of our class sets. ( It is about time, too. )

Compared to Malorne (Feral Version), this chestpiece has:
- 326 Armor
-1 Strength
+ 6 or 10 Agility (Depending on whether or not you have the Socket Bonus on Shadowprowler's)
- 24 Stamina
- 13 Intellect
+ 4 or 8 Hit Rating (Depending on whether or not you have the Socket Bonus on your Malorne)

Basically you lose the tanking stats and gain stats for DPS. ( And intellect, which is basically irrelevant because we are talking about a chestpiece made purely for melee DPS in forms. )

Both chests have Red, Yellow and Blue sockets. For Shadowprowler's I would highly suggest Bold Living Ruby or Delicate Living Ruby for the red socket, Rigid Dawnstone for the yellow socket ( 'Real' feral gear is a bit low in the +hit rating department, and a lot of our hit ends up having to come from rogue items still. ) and Solid Star of Elune or Sovereign Nightseye for the blue socket. Glinting Noble Topaz is also a great choice for either your red or yellow gem sockets.

All in all, it is a great piece to pair up with your Windslayer Wraps ( https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=29507 ), another amazingly good crafted item for cat form.

Comment by Milker

It will be a nice upgrade from Chestguard of the Talon (https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=31285), but with blue gems, it wont live up to Chestguard of the Conniver (https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=28601), unless you don't care about stamina

Comment by 83022

If you "convert" Str to AP, it can be a good Rogue piece also.
with the correct gems, Deadly Deeds and Sinister Calling, adding a standard +6 all stats, you can rise this to +67 Agi, +20 hit, +42 Str, for a total of +115 AP.

Comment by Aredict

Starting to farm this up, enhancement shaman. I'm currently wearing the Thick Netherscale, so this affords slightly less AP, more agil, and less stam and int. I'm looking forward to the sockets and the hit rating, though.

Comment by aasartor

My situation is whether Shadowprowler's Chestguard is worth replacing the Primalstrike Vest and losing the 3-piece Primalstrike set bonus (+40 AP).

For ease of comparison, assume the Shadowprowler's Chestguard sockets are filled with +8 Str, +4 Agi / +4 Hit, and +4 Str / +6 Stam gems. As stated previously, this gives

+44 Strength (108.24 AP with HotW and SotF but no BoK, 117.04 AP with BoK)
+48 Agility
+18 Stamina
+12 Hit

Primalstrike Vest + set bonus comes out to

+38 Agility
+39 Stamina
+12 Hit
+148 AP (+108 base AP, +40 AP set bonus)

Without factoring in the set bonus, Shadowprowler's Chestguard is a better DPS chest than Primalstrike Vest (extra +10.3 agi , but loses a lot of stamina).

With set bonus but without Blessing of Kings, Shadowprowler's Chestguard provides an extra +10.3 agi, while Primalstrike has extra stam and the +40 AP from the set bonus. Clear advantage to Primalstrike Vest.

With set bonus and with Blessing of Kings, Shadowprowler's Chestguard provides and extra +11.3 Agi, while Primalstrike has the extra stam and +30.96 AP. I'd give the slight advantage to Primalstrike Vest here, although it's too close to make a noticeable difference in DPS.

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Conclusion
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Shadowprowler's Chestguard is a slightly better pure DPS chest than Primalstrike Vest if you aren't going to lose the 3-piece set bonus. If you will lose the 3-piece set bonus by switching, then stick with Primalstrike. It's also slightly better than Chestguard of the Conniver, but it's probably not worth the effort to create one if you already have Conniver.

Comment by 32248

SPC is a decent amount better: with a +12 stam gem in the blue slot it's:

-45 armour (negligable)
-4 str
+6 agil (+10 if socketed for bonus)
+ 8 hit rating (0.5% hit)
+ red socket
+ yellow socket

earth & shadows are fairly cheap, and most likely your guild has tons of soulcloth/essences laying around -- worth the upgrade IMO.

Comment by Moonsniper

Just sold mine on Barthilas for 1000g.

With the cost of the Soul Essences for about 200g on my server, and the primals farmed, made a tidy 800g profit. =D (Factor the Nether's in if you don't have them hanging round and its about 600g profit).

Comment by 91592

This Breastplate seems to suit an Enhancement Shaman very well.
Should you socket it with 3 blue gems (Inscribed Noble Topaz, Bold Living Ruby, and Solid Star of Elune), your AEP score will outdo Chestguard of the Conniver, Scaled Breastplate of Carnage, and Thick Netherscale Breastplate. (end-Kara/crafted gear)

This seems to be an excellent choice until SSC is easily beaten (so that we shaman can roll after the rogues have it)

Comment by weetabix

In patch 2.3 it seems that the current 20% increase to str in cat form will be changed to 10% more AP

I'm guessing this will make primalstrike a better dps piece having just finished grinding for one of these on my druid, although this will still benefit from sotf and in raids BoK.

Comment by Knaledge

I legitimately would like to know if this is a viable chestpiece for a rogue. Regardless of the strength (which, as a rogue, when I see strength I see ATP but also... feral druid stuff), could this be a viable upgrade if you're running around in Assassination Tunic?

I've yet to see Chestguard of the Conniver drop in Karazhan, spent all my arena points on MH/OH swords, and our progression in SSC/TKeye is (up to) Tidewalker and Loot Reaver (minus Al'ar) respectively. I'm aware of Zul'Aman coming up but am curious if this thing is worth the mats it requires to craft, for a rogue.

I'd put a Shifting Nightseye in the blue slot, Rigid Dawnstone in the yellow slot, and a Delicate Living Ruby in the red slot.

That brings me up to 86 atp, 18 stam, 16 hit, and 56 agi. Then add a +6 stats enchant and this thing seems pretty... beastly (heh)... for a rogue. But what is left out there if you're not a LW that is relatively "easy" to obtain?

Comment by 77462

I've heard it suggested that this chestpiece, with three +8 AGI gems and +6 to All enchant (for a total of 70 (!) agility) is actually a good bear tanking piece to use over Heavy Clefthoof, if you've got the crit gap covered. And there is a point to that--you lose some stamina and armor over Heavy Clefthoof, but by God that is a LOT of dodge. Not to mention the extra threatgen capacity from the extra attack power and hit rating.

Anyone care to comment?

Comment by 37315

I use Assassin chest atm. So I'm planning on getting this, socketed with +hit gems, you dont have to match the colors, thats only if you want the bonus... imo.. cause I donno when I'll see the chest from nightbane drop, but back to the gems... get the gems that you want and screw the bonus if its not worth it and in this case, especially for druid, dont worry about it, 4 agi is nothing imo.. for a PvE rogue... go for 3 X + 8 hit gems ... can't get better than that, unless you allready have 200+ hitrating (around 15%) then go for AP and crit., screw the stamina, you aren't suppose to get hit in PvE anyway, if you are, you are doing something wrong. I was told that its good having around 15% hit for a PvE rogue. if I want PvP I'll go for gladiator. 9-10K hp, 35% crit, 2K ap (when mongoose and hourglass procc) with my current gear and raid buffed, so... hitrating > everything else, at least for me :)

Comment by Divyraen

It's good for fury warrior too~

If socketed with 3 Bold Living Rubies, the chestpiece will yield around 604 points... that's better than a Gladiator's Chestpiece(559.42) socketed in the same way!

With 2.3 out though... it's probably easier to obtain the Gladiator Plate though~

Comment by 79290

Do any Enhancement shaman use this?
I was thinking of having it crafted for my alt.

Comment by 54613

Ok for an Enhancement Shaman this chest piece is very good. Assuming you have BoK this chest piece has an AEP rating of 212.8 using T5 values (values came from here http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20765-shaman_enhancement/ ). With all of that said you then look at how obtainable this is. All of the mats are either reasonably cheap or easily farmed.

32 x 2.2 = 70.4 (Strength)
40 x 2 = 80 (Agility)
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=24027 = 17.6 (Red Socket)
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=24054 = 8.8 (Blue Socket)
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=24058 = 16.8 (Yellow Socket)
4 x 2 = 8 (Set Bonus)
8 x 1.4 = 11.2 (Hit Rating)

So yes get one!!!

Comment by 142776

I just got this one on my Enh Shaman and Im loving it!

Wasnt too expensive to get too imo.
What I spent on it:

5 x Hvy Knothide = 38 g
12 x Mote of earth = 60 g
12 x Primal Shadow = 336 g
16 x Soulcloth = 120 g(around this, dont remember exactly, bought it @ our gbank)
2 x Primal Nether = 0 g(bought with badges, when buying on Ah expect to pay 100 g for 2)
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554 gold

554 gold for an excellent epic is close to nothing. Socketed and well this baby will cost you around 554 +(8str) 90 g + (4 str 6 stam) 60 g +(4 str 4 crit) 50 g = 754 g. Which equals only 3-4 days doing the dailies :-)

Comment by KermitKiller

Actually, even though the Shadowprowler's Chestguard is leather and the Hauberk of the Warbringer is mail, the decision on which is better depends on what stat you need most, since they are so close. SPC if you need crit, and HotW if you need STA.

Assuming you would gem them both items for STR using Bold Living Ruby you end up with the following stats:

.....................SPC ..................... HotW
STR..................56 ........................ 24
AGI ..................40 ........................ 24
STA ................ 12 ........................ 25
INT .................... 0 ........................ 17
AP ................. 112 ...................... 125
hit ..................... 8 .......................... 0
haste ................ 0 ......................... 20
crit (from AGI) .. 1.66% ....................99%

The nice thing about the native STR on the SPC over the native AP on the HotW is that Blessing of Kings will increase that STR, but not the AP. It would also boost AGI-based crit for both items. The hit and INT of the items are nice, but not really worth consideration for making a call on which piece to take. Haste is more a factor for T6 related content, and by the time you are there, neither of these are going to compare with your drops. :)

Post Blessings of Kings, you get:

.....................SPC ..................... HotW
STR................ 61.6 ...................... 26.4
AGI ..................44 ........................ 26.4
STA ............... 13.2 ....................... 27.5
AP .................123.2 .................... 128.8
crit (from AGI) . 1.76% ...................1.05%

Again, AP ends up pretty close, so the decision on which to take comes down to stats (crit vs STA), and the fact that one is crafted (thus a sure thing) and the other is a possible drop in regular MrT.

Comment by 35757

Where did I go wrong with this as a feral/kitty druid? I spent 1850g (including gems) upgrading to this from the infinitely cheaper chestguard of the talon. I socketed it with 8 str, 4 str/6 sta, and 4 crit/4 str. And for my troubles I got...

+2.9 DPS?!

Did I just totally waste the better part of 2000g or am I missing a point here?

Edit: I should add I initially socketed it with the +agi equivalents, which gave me a net total of a 0.9% DPS increase so, given strength seemed to provide more attack power decided to switch.

Comment by 16133

Why would you socket it with a crap gem set-up?

Comment by 150287

I recently crafted this for my mutilate rogue.. It was an easy gathering of mats, save for the Primal Shadow which I had to farm. I gemmed it with Delicate Living Ruby, Shifting Nightseye, Glinting Noble Topaz, and gave it the +6 to all Stats enchant..
However, now I'm wondering how it compares to Primalstrike Vest.. More AP and Stam, but I've added more agility to the Shadowprowler's.. Would I have to make the whole Primalstrike set to make it worthwhile?

By the way, I'm sure there are better drops out there, but I'm looking at crafted pieces right now because my luck with raid drops is abysmal.

Comment by hk278

First feral druid DPS upgrades from this are available on 25 man raids and arguably zul'aman. So i'd recommend getting this. And it's not even hard to get!

Comment by 83139

im wondering if i should use this chest piece or the chestguard of the conniver
as a combat rogue

Comment by Sindayven

Primalstrike Vest is BoP and requires Elemental Leatherworking.

This, however, is available to anyone.

Comment by welat

i bought one of these for 100g from ah, i think if u can buy for that price it's better than greens in starting places of Wotlk.
if u can find one of these baby's cheap, just buy it(for ur alt rogue/feral druid) and put amazing gems of wotlk for higher boost of dps since u will heave a big HP pool anyway.
in my case i would put 3x16 agi(if cheap, else look for 3x14agi) for max AP/crit/dodge/armor value.
imagine....

32 str
40 agi
12 stam
16 agi gem
16 agi gem
16 agi gem
+8 hitrating

change gems to what u like (32 AP maby)

i m loving it.

Comment by 93453

This is a good match for the Darkmantle Armor set.

Comment by Allakhazam

Can rogue use this chestguard or is it only for druid dps.

It does have some nice agility stats so to speak

Comment by Allakhazam

The one from Night bane is Chestguard of the Conniver yes it is very nice. But properly socketed this one is just as good and probably better.

Alla is wrong about the mats costing 350g. Sure it depends on the servers economy but 4 bolts of Soulcloth alone is around 100g. Plus whatever the person is charging for the nether. Looking at 1500-2000g by the end of it all.

Comment by Allakhazam

WTB this on Frostmourne Server....

Pm Taztingo

Comment by Allakhazam

It doesn't say "Class: Druid" so of course rogues can use it.... I'm not really sure why they would want to, though. The chest from Nightbane, for example, has tons more stam, and other rogue-specific stats. This one is certainly nice, however, if you aren't in a position to farm Nightbane.

Comment by Allakhazam

YOu can buy it now, because I just did, albeit off the AH.

Comment by Allakhazam

you recieve this item from being revered with the karazan faction from a vendor inside

Comment by Thottbot

cat form druid ?

they asked for itemisation and they are getting it!

Comment by Thottbot

best dps chest for feral druid before T5.
I'm happy i havent waste 6primal and 2nether in the primalstrike...but i wish i had not up leatherworking to 375 for nothing :(

Comment by Thottbot

Lucky for you https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=30041/boots-of-natural-grace requires 375 LW as well.

Comment by Thottbot

It's all about min-maxing, not balancing. I'd be putting in 8 agilityx2 and 8 strengthx1

Comment by Thottbot

ill socket it:
8 agi
4agi6stam
4agi4hit
+ socket bonus

Comment by Thottbot

As an Enhancement shaman I am gettings this crafted for me, better chest than anything U can find in KZ and on par with the T4 chest-and not very expensive either.

Comment by Thottbot

druid hit cap is 138 (for bosses), correct?

Comment by Thottbot

Damn...it's an awesome armor for these Mats! Had the most problems with the 2 primal nether...

and this is the reason why i stopped tanking in Kara :D

Comment by Thottbot

would this be a good rogue chest?, idk about the str and not alot of stam

Comment by Thottbot

is this gd for a 70 rogue with the Assassination chest? should i take the this 1 or the assassi?

Comment by Thottbot

are you serious? for a rogue, if you can make primalstrike chest, do it. L2 shadowpanhter or elitistjerks. keep the +strength to a druid like its supposed to

Comment by Thottbot

i personally dont care if its a druid chest piece... its the best thing to have before you beat nightbane and get that piece of gear. And you see hundreds of druids with rogue gear, so it shouldnt matter whether a rogue wears it or not, it has stats. thats all that matters.

Comment by Thottbot

Will the stats be more benficial to a druid than a rogue? Yes.

Is that relevant to a rogue considering whether to use it? Yes, the fact it does benefit a druid more might give you a hint that it is aimed at druids, and while it is indeed an epic with a nice agility bonus, the stats are not going to be geared to maximize benefit to a rogue.

What to do? If you have a regular arena team or regularly raid kara or mag then you will get a more suitable chestpiece than this eventually, and some of the blue chestpieces really are sufficient in the interim. With patch 2.3 you will also be able to get the season 1 gladiator epic chestpiece ... this is very similar to shadowprowler with quite a bit more stamina on it, so is arguably more suitable ... you just need to grind in AV to get it.

Is it worth it then? Probably not. But it's your gold and effort you need to spend, so ultimately the decision is yours.

Comment by Thottbot

Very good kitty gear; One of the best. Rogues can wear it; Good rogues can find better.

Nuff Said.

Comment by Thottbot

I was just wondering. I made a primal strike set about 6 months ago and am still wearing it. As an individual piece, is it worth losing the +AP for set bonus to go to this? I've been making and selling them on AH for about 1300 gold. The first "real" money I've been able to make with LWing. Should I take one myself? My main is a feral druid with the primal strike set on.

Comment by Thottbot

I wonder wether I should use this or https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=28601/chestguard-of-the-conniver. I'm aware that the SC would be better in a raid with BoK, but by how much would it actually be better?
'Cause I don't really want to spend a lot of time farming primal shadow and primal nether for this and spend lot of gold on gems and the enchant only to see 0,3% more crit and 20 AP more.

Comment by Thottbot

This is a really profitable item to make. However Vestiments of Hibernation are better for a cat druid, and you can pick that up for some badges after a few weeks of Kara farming.
However Shadowprowler's is a really nice piece for a new 70 druid.

On Destromath I can buy the mats for this at full price with no farming on the AH. I have turned around 25K gold of profit in a few weeks doing this! It's insane! Probably the most profitable pattern in the game right now that I can think of amongst all professions.

Destromath Prices ATM:
16x Bolts of Soulcloth at 11G a piece = 176 gold
12x Primal Shadow at 15G a piece = 180 gold
12x Primal Earth at around 6G a piece = 72 gold
10x Heavy Knothide Leather 6G a piece = 60 gold
Total = 488 gold

AH Sale Price = 1200 Gold
Total Profit with NO FARMING AT ALL = 712 gold per day.

Of course this is assuming you have a ton of Primal Nethers laying around :)

BTW: If you put 3x red gems and ignore the socket bonus this is actually BETTER than Nordrassil for DPS for cat.(without the set bonuses of course)

Comment by Thottbot

Its a decent upgrade for rogues(althoug it is geared for druids) if you put the right gems. That is until you get the chest from nightbane(and you never know how lady luck will treat you).

32str
40agi
12st
+4 hit,+4agi
+4 agi, +6st
+8 hit
socket bonus: +4agi
Equip: 8hit

Total 84AP, 20hit, 18st
Slap on +6 stat enchant and it isnt to bad if you got gold to spare. With 25 dailies gold is a plenty

Comment by Thottbot

I've read through everyone's comments, and I've come to the conclusion that as a first choice Chest Armor for new-lvl 70 Rogues, this is a more-than adequate choice.

The whole argument about how long various comparable items will take to drop in instances is ludicrous. On my Main Char - I've been waiting for nearly a year to replace the armor I have simply because of a lack of drops / mis-fortune.

Blizzard have made more gear available / more frequently for certain class / raid role segments than others, which could mean you end up waiting for quite some time.

Secondly cost. Most people here who have commented on cost has ignored the premice that sometimes Rogues can be Leatherworkers, OR that Main Characters can be leather workers and as a result the cost is dramatically less.

My main char has done Karazhan about 100 times - so to spare some badges to buy 2 Nethers is no sweat. The Leather I had (from being a skinner), the Soul Cloth I got from a kind Tailor converting the Soul Essence (I'd got in my many Karazhan runs), to make into Soul Cloth Bolts.

This leaves the primals...which anyone with a half-ounce of patience can easily farm.

300g ? 50g more like....

That said, I'd have no problem with anyone trying to sell this for 500g+...as various NPCs are fond of saying "Time is Money".

Comment by Thottbot

This chest is a steal! Feral druids, get this, craft it!

Comment by Thottbot

This is no-doubt a druid chest. The strength doesn't benefit the rogues as much as a druid. That, however, doesn't mean that rogues should go get another one because druids called it. The agility bonus is nice.

However, since it has loads of strength for a leather item, a fury warrior should consider getting this chest. The agility gives the warrior armor and crit, while the strength gives the Attack Power.

On my fury warrior I would consider getting this gemmed like this:
Bold Living Ruby +8 Strength
Pristine Fire Opal +10 Attack Power, +4 Hit Rating
Sovereign Tanzanite +5 Strength, +6 Stamina

Sovereign Tanzanite is dropped from any boss in Shattered Halls Heroic
Pristine Fire Opal is dropped from any boss in Sethekk Halls Heroic

This leather chest piece is amongst the best out there before Tier 5. This means that if you see it at the Auction House and you have some spare gold, do not hesitate to buy it! Especially Tier 4 raiders.

Comment by Thottbot

I agree being a rogue that this does benifit a druid more then my class, but as said, a couple of times actually, this is far enough good untill the nightbane chest drops, i would definatly consider getting this for my rogue as str does still benifit some what to rogues, my guild hasnt come close the time ive been there to downing nightbane, but am in no rush, and its BoE and Lw made, so who really cares who gets priority? it isn't a friking drop for crying out loud!

Also to the post above me, theres better plate then this for fury warriors.

Comment by Thottbot

I'm thinking of making this for my Feral Drood, but the PVP welfare epics are so easy to get, I wonder whether I should even bother.

Comment by Thottbot

70 Feral Druid

I had this until I just bought one of the 100 Badge Chestpieces today.

If you are a Feral, this chestpiece will last you until you are past Kara, if you want it to. It is a huge help to your DPS as a new 70, and gemmed right can be amazing.

Borrow the money, farm the mats, do whatever you need to. It is worth every penny of 1500G.

Comment by Thottbot

getting this for my enchancement shammy
cant seem to find anything else thats good

Comment by Thottbot

This thing is trash imo... it's expensive to make, and the only thing going for it is the sockets, at least for a rogue. I have the Chestguard of the Conniver from Nightbane, and that has stats exceedingly dominant over this piece of crap.

Mine has

364 armor
+37 agility
+36 stam
+22 hit rating
+90 attack power

You would be hard-pressed (if it's even possible) to find gems to socket this thing that would make it better than that. Not to mention that the gems will be, just as the armor was, ridiculously expensive. Kill nightbane a few times, you will be much better off.

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Shadowprowler's Chestguard

Item Level 105
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Chest	Leather

581 Armor
+40 Agility
+45 Stamina
+8 Hit

Red Socket
Blue Socket
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +4 Agility

Durability 165 / 165

Requires Level 70

Sell Price: 9 19 57

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