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Kommentar von 168391

Wow, what to say? Well, the choice for talent will really not be easier will all those improvements to all the school.

This spell is simply great, for PvP... Well it's instant! :O and for PvE, a GREAT aoe spells for lock, with HellFire and Rain of Fire, warlock now have powerful ways to deal with multiple mobs with low health.

Note also that, if the damage over time (an awesome addition) is only Fire based, the damage from the cone itself, is said to be shadowflame. So both shadow and flame? Will have to try to understand how resistance and absord (fire ward, shadow ward) will work with this spell.

All in all, a great addition!

Kommentar von 22744

as the effect #1 says: School of damage dealt is Shadow, but the AoE DoT left on targets is Fire.

Kommentar von 158727

I personally hope this is a purple Cone of Cold, in which case it's gonna look so hot.

Kommentar von 96334

Actually, the animation is like the dragon's breath, but with a demon instead a dragon. Pretty badass if you ask me.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9uKq0Qkhw

Kommentar von 13669

An amazing spell in solo and PvP situations, playing the role of an enabler in the latter: With Backdraft granting 30% faster cast times after a Conflagrate, the following sequence becomes viable:

Shadowflame -> Conflagrate -> Shadowfury -> Shadow Bolt (1.75s) + Immolate (1.05s) / Soul Fire (2.8s) -> Shadowburn -> ...

Resulting in a lot more burst damage than previously possible. Depending on how the Destruction 51-pointer ultimately turns out, that could also be worked into this sequence. Not to mention the 26% stun chance of a Conflagrate granted by Pyroclasm -- that would allow said sequence to be prolonged by another three seconds as you're spared your Shadowfury cooldown.

Kommentar von Speeddeath

Stupid Idea popped into my head just now..
would https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=15138 affect this in anyway or?

EDIT: forgot link

Kommentar von 122372

I've seen the video of this at world of warcraft movies, and to tell you the truth, having a move that can crit for 2570 (I think the lock was destro) and applies a dot that can be conflaged, AND is instant and is move all specs have access too...sounds like a huge pile of win to me (note: I want to abuse this move when I aoe grind Northrend as Affliction)!

Kommentar von 89722

At first I thought this was just like an urban legend hehe. But it seems like it's actually gonna be implemented. I wasn't gonna use Pyroclasm, but maybe I will now. It almost feels like when I started...Aftermath, Pyroclasm... Now we get Seed of Corruption, ShadowFury, ShadowFlame, Imp Conflagrate...muhahaha.

As for the rotation for AoE grinding : SoC SoC SoC ShadowFury SoC SoC ShadowFlame Conflagrate and just Immolate/Incinerate them down =9 (For the best results, invite a friend with some HoTs to come along...LifeTap frenzy !)

And I welcome this trick for PvP use as well. This actually makes it somewhat viable for Destruction to do arenas (ShadowFlame, ShadowFury, the instant-DDs, BackDraft, Molten Core, Soul Leech, 2-point Aftermath). Pretty nice when they're swamping you or your healer.

Kommentar von 212508

Soooooo looking forward to this, finally locks get an instant cast AoE that's not channeled.

Kommentar von annerajb

this is like mage's dragonbreath except without the disorient.

Kommentar von 192396

Seed of Corruption costs 34% base mana.

Kommentar von 214704

"363 to 397 Shadow damage and an additional 212 Fire damage over 8 sec." - this cannot be true. Either they give it a godly coefficient or the numbers are just wrong. Even a single dot deals more damage than that. What is the point in getting AoE aggro if the attack does not pack some punch?

Kommentar von 221039

Its a great spell, its give you the conflag buff (with meant if you destro you got 30% faster spell cast).

So is just to conflag direct after shadowflame. And then fear, 2.8s soulfire, 1.05s immolate, 1.75s shadowbolt. And you can throu in a shadowfury ther just to buy time. then ready to conflag again.

Kommentar von 176424

Even with that I still don't know...I prefer affliction but I always wanted to have a spell like that.They totally nerfed it.Even with Aftermath it still does not meet my expectations...Lets just hope the coefficient goes more than 200%

Kommentar von 214704

The ability to get an almost instant "conflagration" to trigger "pyrolysis" for 30% faster casting does not demand or justify such a huge damage nerf. You have to cast two spells, both having high mana cost, both on a CD.

It would also be a total waste of a very much wanted spell to turn it into a "lighter" for conflagrate. Then they could get rid of the aoe effect as well, as the mentioned direct and dot damage does actually only hurt lowest level foes.

Kommentar von 91908

Wouldn't it be hilarious if by some twisted mistake, Onyxia Scale Cloak absorbed the DoT like it did for Nefarius' Shadowflame?

Kommentar von 37999

Even if it's weakass base damage, after +damage, it'll be a decent bit of instant burst damage that warlocks don't have untalented. I'm looking forward to it.

Kommentar von aim2game

How will the Molten Core talent affect Shadowflame? Will the Shadow damage portion have a chance to increase the Fire DoT damage portion? And if the Shadow portion doesn't proc Molten Core, will the DoT portion have a chance to proc, thus increasing all Fire damage?

Kommentar von Xsifilad

Ok to those of you who think this spell is funny compared to "ice cream" cone (cone of cold), or Dragons Breath lets take a look at the facts.

Rank 2 spell dose about 360 to 400 dmg and 212 dot ower 8 sec.

If we have around 1000 to 1.1 spldmg and destro specced this shude be just as good, maby around 1k dmg to everyone afected + 212 over time(it would actualy be more then 212 maby around twice as much)
if you take Molten Core it can be triggered by initial shadow dmg, boosting our dots by 10% and all other fire spells we are going to cast in the future. And i dont even wona start talking about how much dmg it can do if it crits!

This makes it a VERY awsome close combat spell no whorse then icecream cone or dreagons breath.

If you still think its crap take a look at the vid her http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9uKq0Qkhw

Kommentar von 135772

Is there a horde trainer for this?

Kommentar von 99247

What is the range of the cone?

Kommentar von WatsUpWidDat

Physics says that the hotter a blackbody object is the 'bluer' the light it emits.
Thus when something like a rock or iron bar gets hot enough it glows red.
Get it hotter, like in a very hot star, and it will glow blue.
So, if you look at the visible spectrum, as a hot object grows hotter it will glow red,
then orange, then yellow, then green, then blue, then indigo, then violet...
(good 'ol Roy G. Biv)

Why do I mention this?
Because the flames of this spell are a purplish color,
meaning they ought to be hotter than even then even most of the hottest stars!

Of course this may be horribly misguided for two reasons.
Number one: most fire is yellowish because of the phosphorescent effect on the air,
not a glowing black body...
and number two:
Wold of Warcraft is, technically, a game...

still, its fun to think that as a warlock you can unleash flames nearly as hot as a quasar ^_^

Kommentar von stormii

for a new spell it's pretty bad, while it has a niche in solo pve and against melee, the fact that it's melee range (in terms of pve) means you have to get in range of a target to use it, and for pvp it means the same, and with locks being a low mobility class this really makes this spell lackluster.

Kommentar von 248575

Pull about 5-6 mobs, use Seed of Corruption on 2-3 mobs then use Shadowflame ->BANG

Kommentar von mykevelli

Does anyone know how the spell damage coefficient applies to two portions of this spell? I'm curious how much the direct damage receives and how much the damage over time portion receives.

Kommentar von darcphnx

Just a thought... Apply Seed of Corruption 2-3 times, then use shadow flame. I dunno about other warlocks, but for me, the DD of Shadowflame will proc seed, if not the added dot. Better then charging a non-talented 3 sec cast of shadowbolt to force proc seed. The only thing I don't like about this spell is the range. At least specify what the range is..? Or improve Gui to hold click, show an area of affect, release to fire the spell. Apply this to all cone of cold-esc spells and yea, you'll make a few players happy xD.

Kommentar von 261673

Actually, the damage doesn't seem too bad. Spell power and talents will buff it up pretty well. It will crit like a beast. And it will be perfect for AoE play styles like mine and Darcphyx, from the sounds of it. For AoE pulls, I tend to seed as much as possible, and drop a Shadowfury on top of them (hopefully before the first one breaks).

Some times Shadowfury doesn't do the trick, some times it does. But another instant cast AoE will do wonders for our damage output with tactics like this. And it doesn't matter where you stand just so long as the mobs aren't hitting you. By all means, stack on the ass.

Now, 5-6 (5-6 plus! Hopefully plus! Kill...kill...kill!) mobs with Seed of Corruption on them normally don't take the damage that well and will come to kill you. Why not make your death that much more interesting (and the mages QQ more about their AoE damage ^.^). And, face it, we all know the void walker blows, so this makes things that much more fun for solo PvE.

If you don't see uses for the spell, that doesn't mean it's a useless spell and should be discounted. If you don't like using it or tried it and can't find a place for it, don't use it. No harm no foul. As for me dishing out the damage at a very dangerous and masochistic pace is a very, very enlightening thing. Just have fun with it. (Sorry for the huge post! ^.^)

Kommentar von MoonLite

I have a lot of problems actually targetting this skill...
Often I think I have the targets within 10yards in front of me, but I damage only one or none at all...

I tried to backstep a bit when the mobs were hitting me (so the mobs should be in front of me), but even that didn't work well... Am I just having serious connection issues or is this skill not entirely bug-free?

Any input or suggestions are welcome.

Kommentar von 220704

Warlock casts Shadowflame! Warlock casts Shadowbolt!
Warlock casts Soulfire!

...

What's this? Warlock is evolving! ... Warlock evolved into mage!

Warlock forgot fear and learned polymorph!

Kommentar von Darkomicron

Warlock casts Shadowflame! Warlock casts Shadowbolt!
Warlock casts Soulfire!

...

What's this? Warlock is evolving! ... Warlock evolved into mage!

Warlock forgot fear and learned polymorph!

The mage is superiour to the warlock, thus the warlock thought: If you can't beat em... join em. And started to steal the mage's tricks... Dirty locks.

Edit: Quote...

Kommentar von iranou

Just made this macro for fun:
/cast Shadowflame
/belch
Makes the emote "You burp rudely in <target>'s face" as you cast it.
(or "You let out a loud belch" without a target selected) Funny!

Kommentar von 135318

Glyph of Shadowflame *new* -- Your Shadowflame also applies a 70% movement speed slow on its victims.

On PTR 3.1. Now this spell will kick ass or what? :)

Kommentar von anthem47

The only way I could see myself using this spell is if it had a knockback, which would be really handy in pvp vs melee. Any non-fear based way of getting distance would be good.

Kommentar von Megacrit

i wonder if this can this be used on nefarion O.o give him a piece of his own medicine

Kommentar von 256454

When buffed with the Glyph of Shadowflame, this spell applies this effect. It is truly a 70% snare like Crippling Poison, is not dispellable itself and lasts as long as Shadowflame BUT it will go away if the Shadowflame DoT is dispelled (tested, confirmed).
Thus, it neither adds more dispel protection nor is it unremovable. (It's still pretty sweet though and is useful in combination with Demonic Circle or a trinket to escape melee.)

Kommentar von 192727

It's not just any demon head. It is the head of a Pit lord; such as Magtheridon from magtheridon's lair or Brutallus from the sunwell.

Kommentar von 45703

In 3.2 Shadowflame will finally get a real area of effect!

Shadowflame: The angle of the cone effect on this ability was inadvertently very small, making it difficult to use. Its cone is now the same size as similar spells, such as Cone of Cold. (Source: Official PTR patch notes.)

Kommentar von UlarnekIronclaw

why isnt this shadowfire spellschool? mages get frostfire bolt, why not shadowfire? or shadowfire for chaos bolt >.>

Kommentar von 370095

think the color is just a coincidence, maybe its purplish because it combines shadow(dark blue/purple) and fire(yellow, bright)
even then, fel flames are green, and there isnt a way to explain that i think.
lets all just agree that it looks superb and i wouldnt mind if they made Soul Fire a purplish, or even better a green Ball of fire to put emphasis on the fact that warlocks deal with dark magic, and cast the fire from the very burning legion itself

Kommentar von Railander

When compared to Rain of Fire as a destro lock, it has better DPCT (damage per cast time) which is 1.5 sec opposed to Rain of Fire's 2 sec, and also deals more damage than RoF, but assuming both crit Shadowflame damage is only slightly higher.

Kommentar von 36754

It's damage is really low. For example i'm a demo lock with 15% more damage to shadow and fire spells so Shadowflame hits the hardest in this spec.

With 3880 spell dmg AND CoE on the target this spell hits for 1370 and causes 2210 dmg over 8 secs meaning 3580 dmg for 964 mana. It's the mana cost that lets it down the most as people tend to forget that lifetap costs a gcd so the more mana you 'waste' the more you tap and so you lose dps. Therefore it's only ever worth casting during a movement or a transition or the mob is about to die. E.g. Rotface Slime Spray.

In an AoE situation it's questionable if it is worth casting or not.. Some quick numbers with Meta up and 4250 spell dmg it does 4526 (crit 6231) and SoC does 4688 (crit 6539). With the GCD being 1.5 seconds you can consider Shadowflame to be 0.5 seconds faster than SoC but dealing less dmg and scaling less with crit.

Also you have to be in melee range, which is generally a bad place to be as a caster. Theres just no risk vrs reward and nothing interesting for it's high mana. Generally a badly designed spell with a very unique graphic.

Kommentar von 98874

It's important to note that the DoT on this is not effected by the AoE Damage Cap. The DoT does the same damage per target to 40 targets as it does to 10. So if there's an obscene amount of mobs being Damaged, this is definitely VERY worth casting.

Kommentar von dreadblood

What's this? Warlock is Devolving! ... Warlock Devolved into mage!

Fix'd

Kommentar von Tripster

My very own flamethrower. How nice.

Kommentar von Kanariya

PvP-wise, this should be glyphed. The snare it puts on those nasty melee users is definitely useful for getting far enough away and making a couple casts, like Fear.

Kommentar von 547612

Any idea on the range of this spell? If the Dot has become significant (as mentioned in many 4.0.3 simulationcraft simulations), knowing the distance you have to be from a boss for the spell to land, becomes significant...

Kommentar von silkfire

As we now have Fel Flame, what's the point of this spell in PvE? For AoE we've always got RoF/SoC?

Kommentar von 886440

Mists of Pandaria general changes:

Pet Battle System:

-This system will work much like a Secondary profession and any player can participate.
-Players will be able utilize their current non-combat pets or capture new non-combat pets to level them and battle them against others.

WoW meets pokemon

Kommentar von Xobu

Reading the comments got me so confused until I noticed the comments were for a previous spell using the same ID on Wowhead.

Most of the comments are referring to an old Warlock ability called Shadowflame.

This current talent, Demonic Breath, is new to the PTR and as the description says only snares targets in a 10 yard range by 50% without any damage. The talent is a replacement of Howl of Terror which will return to be a core warlock ability.

Kommentar von FlayOnDarkIron

Call me crazy but this seems mindboggling underwhelming. I can't think of a single instance I would be somewhere going, "damn, I really wish I had a 6 second slow that is nearly totally useless against almost every class/spec combo in the game and not a 3 second aoe stun.."

It feels like one of those halfbaked tanking ideas that ultimately end up being useless. Maybe if it was the old shadowflame it would be a more even choice, but as of right now, Mortal Coil heal for raiding, and MC or Shadowfury for solo/pvp situation depending.

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100 Dämonischer Furor / 6% von Grundmana

Sofort	20 sek. Abklingzeit

Erzeugt einen 10 Meter großen Kegel aus dunkler Energie vor Euch, der das Bewegungstempo aller getroffenen Ziele 6 Sek. lang um 50% verringert.

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100 Dämonischer Furor / 6% von Grundmana

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20 sekunden

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1.5 sekunden

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100%

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Apply Aura: [Decrease Run Speed %]
Wert: -50%
Radius: 10 Meter
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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