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Kommentar von 838027

Make sure everyone has played Star Fox and knows how to Ausweichmanöver! before starting the fight.

Kommentar von 108668

I count 46 different elements to this fight.

We've come a long way since Molten Core.

Kommentar von Ashvael

Here's a guide based on our 25m first kill. If you have a better way of handling certain parts of the encounter (especially 10m additions), feel free to suggest them in a comment.

Phase 1:
Alysrazor will enter the area from the north, knocking all of you back 20 yards and then start spamming some moderate fire AoE till she has passed the wall of fire she created. After the knockback you should stack up pretty close to the fire wall and let the healers top you up. She has a huge hitbox, so melees should be able to hit her fairly soon.

Directly after she has entered the area, she will start by doing . You may not be in the middle part of the area or you will get cleaved to death. She does not need to be tanked in this phase at all. While she cleaves through the middle area, she drops Feuerfeders in her path. Designated players (2-5 in 25m and 1 in 10m) should get 3 stacks of Feuerfeder instantly. They will then gain Flammenschwingen and be able to fly after her and deal damage to her.

Air Part: The players in the air need to fly through small rings of fire which only last for about 3 seconds. These rings refresh your Flammenschwingen and also grant you the stacking (de)buff Lodernde Macht. This (de)buff stacks up to 25 times and if you get to 25 stacks you will also gain the following (de)buff: Alysras Klingen which lasts for the same duration as you'll be able to keep your Lodernde Macht up. However she will not only spawn the rings of fire in the air but also Brandwolkes. Those deal heavy fire damage and may also "dismount" you. You will need to avoid these at all times.

Ground Part: The rest of your raid will have to deal with 3 different types of adds.

Two sets of four Fetter Lavawurms will spawn in a square-like formation in the middle area. These cannot be targeted/attacked. The only thing these adds do are spitting fire in a small radius cone (10yards?) in front of them. Simply do not stand in front of them.

Two eggs will be dropped off out of which Gieriges Jungtiers will spawn. It's important that your 2 tanks will stand next to the egg before the hatchling spawns because the closest player will instantly gain Geprägt. Your tanks will then also deal 1000% more damage to their respective hatchling. As soon as a Gieriges Jungtier gains the Hungrig buff, your tank will have to drag it next to a Fetter Lavawurm. It will eat the worm and be Gesättigt for 15 seconds after which this repeats. Tanks deal by far the most damage on these adds, however your DPS should also switch to them when none of the following adds are alive.

Two Lodernder Kralleninitiands will spawn at outer parts of the area. These are the main targets for your ground DPS in Phase 1. While focusing them down, it's extremy important to interrupt Fyroschlag. You will need 1 shaman or 2 other melee classes per add to interrupt them in both 10m and 25m settings. Set up rotations.

During phase 1 she will also fly through the middle area 3 more times and use , as well as drop Feuerfeders, just like in the beginning. Noone should be in the middle area at this time. Since your designated air players have had their stack of Feuerfeder already since the beginning, the rest of your raid should each get a stack of 1-2 feathers during this phase to make the next phase easier.

Phase 2:
Alysrazor will fly in small circles around the area and remove the Flammenschwingen from every player after a few seconds. She will drop down in the middle part of the area where nobody should stand as there will be a Feuriger Vortex. Feuriger Tornados will spawn from the middle area and move outwards. The tornadoes will then start moving in circles in a set direction. You will have to avoid these by simply changing your distance to the middle area forth and back at a set point and they will pass you while doing their circles.
During this phase the rings of fire - which previously were only in the air and grant/refresh your stack of Lodernde Macht - will also spawn at the ground. Players who feel comfortable dodging tornadoes should also pick those up, especially the air players since they will keep their 25 stack up for the following burn phase.

Phase 3:
After a short time of dodging tornadoes this phase will be over and Alysrazor will lie in the center with the following debuff: Erloschen. This is the time where you should bloodlust and your DPS and healers should nuke the boss. It's important your healers also DPS him because of Essenz des Gründrachen. She continously regenerates her energy in this phase with Funken.
During this phase two Lodernder Krallenklauenformer will spawn which will try to channel energy into Alysrazor. They will need to be taken care of by your tanks. They can be interrupted, stunned, silenced -- pretty much everything.

Phase 4:
When Alysrazor is back up to 50 energy, she will start phase 4. She will rise again, however not fly high yet. This is the only phase where she needs to be tanked and faced away from the raid. Your tanks will gain the debuff and should switch at around 75 energy. During this phase, it's important that your raid is stacked up completely behind the boss and defensive cooldowns as well as healing cooldowns should be used while she deals heavy fire AoE damage with Lodernde Verpuffung. This phase lasts until she has 100 molten power again and casts Volle Kraft.
Phase 1 will begin again with the small exception of Feuerfeders lying directly in the center so your air players can get up instantly again.

I know it may seem like much but once you've seen all of the phases, you will realize you as an individual player won't have too much to watch out for.
Here's an example log of the fight. You will see the tanks first by a good margin, followed by air players, followed by the rest.

If you have any questions or suggestions, go ahead!

Good luck.

Kommentar von 462527

Doing this as a feral druid with nyan cat playing in the background is win.

Kommentar von 418716

If you're having trouble with tornadoes just chase one, and when you see one on your right pass you quickly switch and follow that one, super easy mode this way. The fire trail left behind by the tornadoes will NOT hurt you.

Kommentar von Rekka

Some general tips.

For Fiery tornado it generally works well to "chase" after the last tornado that went past you. I.e. a tornado goes past you on your left you move into its "lane" and follow it until another tornado passes on your left which you then follow instead. Repeat as necessary. This should cause you to run in essentially an oval pattern with almost no risk of being hit except for when tornado spawn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue7UCVdY6Fs demonstrates the technique.

While flying: Rings seem to despawn very quickly; however, like Valritha dreamwalker's portal phase it is very much possible to keep up stacks on everyone if you pass through the rings quickly and generally together. Additionally it is very important to catch the ring she leaves as sh dips low to use blazing claw or run the risk of your flying buff wearing off before she returns to her normal circle pattern. Also if you do lose the flying buff picking up a single feather will launch you into the air again. Be aware that you can take falling dmg when the flying debuff wears off either via elapsed time or the start of the fiery tornado phase. Flyers should try to hit at least 1 or 2 rings during the fiery tornado phase to keep their haste buff until the burn phase.

Voracious Hatchlings: Using dodge/parry cooldowns/trinekts while the hatchling is hungry can help prolong the time between tantrums, They are also prone to charge for plump lava worms from a surprising distance so be wary of hitting raid members if you keep the hatching far away from the plump lava worms. Remember that 8 worms spawn total and if any worms are up as you enter the fiery tornado phase they will remain up. It is also possible to pop a Cooldown or two and survive a tantrum's entire duration should no worms be available. DPS after killing the Blazing Talon initiates should dps the Hatchlings as hard as they can. it is very unlikely that the tanks will be able to kill the adds alone even with the 1000% dmg buff. It may be necessary for your flying dps to land and finish off Hatchlings during the last 10-15 seconds before fiery tornado. It can also be effective to send up DoT classes who can DoT alysrazor, and dot the hatchlings as they fly over head, before having to refresh their stacks. Its fairly difficult to target swap so quickly AND maintain stacks but it is possible to gain substantial dps this way.

Kommentar von 821910

Alysrazor yells: Fire...fire...

Settle down, Beavis.

Kommentar von 273673

Male Blazing Talon Initiate: We call upon you, Firelord!
Female Blazing Talon Initiate: Let the unbelievers perish in Fire!"

Every time I hear these lines during the fight, I get chills going down my spine.

Noteworthy lines of the Blazing Talon Initiates during this encounter:
Male
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/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidMale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_MALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_02.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidMale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_MALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_03.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidMale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_MALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_04.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidMale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_MALE_ALYSRAZOR_METEOR_01.ogg")
Female
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidFemale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_FEMALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_01.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidFemale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_FEMALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_02.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidFemale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_FEMALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_03.ogg")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\FlameDruidFemale\\VO_FL_FLAME_DRUID_FEMALE_ALYSRAZOR_ATTACK_04.ogg")

Kommentar von GraveDiggerX

Strategy Guide:

Below, I have written a guide on the abilities and how we defeated this boss.

Our Group:

Tanks - | Druid | Paladin |
Healers - | Shaman | Druid | Priest |
DPS - | Rogue | Hunter | RPaladin | Mage | SPriest |

General Boss Information:

This boss is a gigantic fire hawk that betrayed her people to gain her power from Ragnaros.
She will fly around her arena in do various abilities, alongside spawning adds to kill her foes.
She has a similar burn phase to Magmaw and is a VERY execution based fight.

Boss Abilities/Strategy:

Alysrazor is engaged by hitting Staghelm or by picking up the lone feather on the ground.
Upon engaging, Alysrazor will fly low to the ground in a straight line from her spawning cave causing a Firestorm as she comes. You will want to prestack to help healing here.
She also blocks the exits with Volcanic Fire, preventing any successful escape.

---Phase 1:

Phase 1 begins shortly after the pull in which she will have Molted and left Feathers on the ground in her wake. By picking up these feathers, you will gain 1/3 of Wings of Flame causing you to run 30% faster per stack and be able to cast while moving.
During this phase you will want 1 person to gain 3 stacks ASAP in order to gain Blazing Power by going through rings in the air à la Star Fox. Once that person reaches 25 stacks, he/she will gain Alysra's Razor, causing his Crit change to increase by 75%.
However, that person must look out for one thing... Firey Farts that she releases periodically. Easily Avoidable.
Meanwhile, on the ground, the other 9 players in the raid will need to deal with adds. 2 Blazing Talon Initiates who spawn periodically and 2 Voracious Hatchlings who only spawn once per phase.
You will want to assign 2 groups of 4. 1 group on each side with a healer going back and forth. 1 Healer/2 DPS (Split interrupters)/1 Tank in order to deal with the adds. 1 Initiate spawns on each side and has minimal health.
The initiates cast 2 abilities. One of which is Brushfire... a non interruptable spell that creates a small ball of fire that scoots around the arena floor. It is very avoidable. The other ability is Fieroblast... an ability that CAN and SHOULD be interrupted. It does moderate fire damage and places a DoT on it's target. Each successful cast of Fieroblast increases the Initiate's subsequent damage.
The Voracious Hatchings spawn shortly after this phase begins and are dropped in an egg via airmail by two phoenix'. You will need to have the tanks go stand by each of these due to it becoming Imprinted on the closest person at hatch. This causes the tank to do 1000% damage against that target... Use CDs appropriately.
Occasionally the Hatchling will become Hungry and have a change to go into a Tantrum. In order to deal with the tantrums, you will want your tanks to kite the birds over Plump Lava Worms which they will in turn eat and become Satiated. 4 Worms spawn at a time around the room and cannot be targeted or DPSed. You just need to watch out for their 360 degree Lava Spew.
This phase will last roughly 3:15 at which time, she will cast Fiery Vortex.

---Phase 1.5:

During this phase/transition, she will summon Fiery Tornados that orbit VERY fastly around the room in different directions. That is why you will want to have everyone grab as many feathers as possible. Do your best to avoid these tornados.
This phase lasts ~15 seconds.

---Phase 2:

Phase 2 is essentially a burn phase in which she is Burnt Out from causing her vortex/tornadoes... increasing her damage taken by 50%.
She will remain in this stage until her blazing power reaches 50. Her inner Spark is what returns her power, at a rate of 3 per 2 seconds.
Also, there will be 2 more adds during this phase which spawn on opposite sides and cast Ignition in an attempt to speed her recovery. You will want to have your tanks lock these down and prevent them from casting this.
In addition, we found it beneficial to stack behind her at the beginning of this phase due to the mechanics of the transition back into P1.

---Phase 2.5:

At 50 Molten Power, she becomes Ignited and raises from the ground. This continues to restore 2 power per second.
At this time she will also Buffet the raid causing mild fire damage every second. (Hence the stacking)
She must be tanked during this phase due to Blazing Claw which causes high amounts of damage. You don't want this in the raid, so have your tank face her the opposite direction.
Once she reaches Full Power, she will knock all players back like at the beginning and Phase 1 will begin again.

Rinse and Repeat

Tips:

Try and coordinate your interrupts for P1... this will give you the most trouble.
Have your tanks use Offensive CDs on the Hatchlings. It is imperative that they die before the tornadoes.
SPriests/Fire Mages are great for the air.
The tanks take a @#$% ton of damage, but since you get 10% mana back per ability during the burn phase... use your big heals to keep them up.
Watch my video, I feel it should help a lot.

I wish you the best of luck, and feel free to critique my post and ask any questions.

Please uprate if this helped at all!

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~Wrex | Pseudonym | Executus-US

Kommentar von 534473

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but there IS an enrage timer of sorts. The third time you reach phase 4, she will emote as being unable to reignite fully. At this point, phase 4 will continue indefinitely and although the damage doesn't seem to actually increase over time, your healers will probably go oom eventually from the tank and raid damage.

Kommentar von 470096

Tank has to do about 120-130k dps to kill Hatchling all alone. This means about 11-12k dps without debuff.
Soooo.... no undergeared tanks at this encounter or trading avoidance/hp for DPS stats?

Kommentar von 439762

For tornadoes:

Interface > Camera > Set Camera Following Style > Only Horizontal When Moving

Edit: Okay I don't know what all the sudden downrating is about but I always died to tornadoes with the default camera settings. This really helped me, now I always live through tornadoes. If you think this is the wrong camera angle to use for this fight why don't you just reply with how you think it should be done?

Kommentar von Ravilious

Is there a Quest or Daily in the game anywhere where someone can practice the flying mechanic used in this fight?

Kommentar von ZelosRaine

Downed this a few nights ago on Ysondre-US

Tanks: Pally and DK (me)
Heals: Shammy, Druid, Pally
Dps: Priest (up-top with boss), Arcane Mage, Fury Warrior, Frost DK, Marksman Hunter

As far as the different perspectives went,

Tanks found that marking the (rough) locations on where the adds in the burnout phase dropped helped to insure we did not both try to pick up the same druid, hatchling, worms, etc. Generally speaking, we each focused on survival while trying to remain aware that we needed to kill hatchlings. Although I was always late to kill mine, it wasn't the end of the world to be killing it as we went into the tornadoes, as it would always die before they started rotating. I generally saved my cds as much as possible, feeding my hatchling a worm whenever it enraged, and blew several cds for the last 10-15% of its life when it was enraged without a worm to feed it. I always saved Ice Bound (50% damage reduction cd), however, for tanking the boss in the fourth phase. Other than that, I made sure to call when I had the bleed debuff. Imo, it is very important to drop this debuff A.S.A.P. as having it and an enrage can rng kill you. Of course, you need to call the debuff for you healer so they know what's up (I made a PowerAura to show me when I had it, made everything much easier). Finally, I tanked the bird with my back against the wall so it wouldn't eat worms when it wasn't supposed to.

Dps needs to be split by interrupts and should help out on hatchlings whenever possible. Of course, the tank is the only one who can do substantial damage, but extra dps doesn't hurt. Just don't do it at the expense of killing and interrupting your add. If you are flying, good luck to you because I have no idea what happens up there.

Healers felt they might have been able to two heal it with a more geared tank (Pally is main spec tank, but I am off spec and took significantly more damage :*( but, whatever). In any case, the area is too big to have a healer running back and forth. We put two heals on my side because I took more damage and the other healer just had to deal with it :P.

As far as the phases go, first phase is the most complicated, second phase involves running in circles (pick a tornado, follow it, turn and follow the next that comes by the opposite direction, repeat), third phase, either first or second, is hero time, and fourth phase is blow all your raid wide healing cds and personal cds.

It is a VERY long fight. We took 11mins, and, without a very high ilvl relative to the boss, I don't see it taking less than 9-10 unless you can send 2 people up top (probably dropping a healer).

Best of luck!

Kommentar von Itsversayce

The flying mechanic of the fight is definitely the best aspect to it. I have to say, this was the only fight I enjoyed wiping on during progression because it meant I got more time to fly around casting shadow bolts and dotting her up with tons of haste and crit. Probably not as fun for the ground people though. =p

Kommentar von Hanz0

pro tip : let a shadowpriest take the flying role. if he`s half decent each time she flies close to the ground he can cast shadowfiend on one of the angry birdies making it a bit easier for the people on the ground

also after tornado phase during the burn phase when you get bloodlust and you`ll have the increase crit chance buff from rings what does this mean?

it means something very simple you get to have not one, not two, but THREE shadowfiends up during this phase because of mind flay critting almost 100% of time and because its casted in 1 second meaning 3 crits per second reducing your shadowfiend cooldown by 30 seconds on each cast making you able to cast shadowfiend almost every 10 seconds and if you have the 2piece set bonus this will make your dps skyrocket !

Kommentar von Iroared

Since there are no comments on heroic version, and the description doesn't explain it well, here's what happens (10man):

Phase 1 repeats 3 times, but each time is much shorter. Hatchlings have way less health (~7M), but there is still barely enough time to kill them. First time 4 initiates are spawned (2 then 2 again), with different timings; second time, east gets 2 initiates while west gets one; third time, only one is spawned on west side. They cast brushfire twice before each fireoblast, making it slightly easier to interrupt (10 second cd is barely enough), but resulting in much more fire moving around.
Also, an invincible herald spawns in the middle and launches two slow moving boulders in random directions. They have around 160k health, and, when killed, stay on the ground, providing a way to LOS the aoe. On the third phase 1, ignore the boulders (still stay away from them as they one-shot).
Between the phase 1's the remaining druids shield themselves (and don't cast anything else), the boss does a 5 second cast after which everyone not behind a boulder will quickly die. The animation on the ground shows the direction of the aoe (similar to Altairus), so does looking up at the boss. After third phase 1, the aoe is not cast. During the aoe, remaining initiates shield themselves and don't cast anything, so you don't have to sacrifice yourself to finish them off.

After phase 1 repeats three times, the other 3 phases follow, and they are identical to their normal versions.
After that, the whole thing repeats, but there is even less time for each phase 1.

The boss has 78M total health and someone good at flying is very important here, while the others do their best at surviving on the ground.

Kommentar von 789375

Our guild have already downed this boss once but last night after about 10 attempts we were experiencing a number of issues with p2 that we never had before until tonight and no we weren't having problems with tornado's we were seeing a few unexpected deaths which we believe is from Harsche Winde but not 100% sure. I died 2/10 times from this but what confuses me is that i run basically in the same place everytime which is the two most outer rings and most the time i'm fine. Another situation happen before the tornadoes spawned we just entered phase 2, we had a warrior and healer standing right next to each other on the edge ring waiting for tornado's to spawn, all the sudden our warrior gets the debuff and dies in seconds while our healer is left untouch. If this is a range problem then why doesn't it seem to effect everyone out of range and why hasn't it happen on all the attempts?

Kommentar von Chaosinfintium

All the comments about how to dodge the tornadoes and not one, not a single one takes the simple approach.

Look at Sartharion from WotLK, remember those nasty annoying Lava Waves?
Apply the exact same approach, be attentive and... step forwards and backwards. Ta da.
Don't need Ovals, or circles, or squares. At best you're doing a zig-zag or a curved line, backwards and forwards.

Kommentar von 834605

Does anyone know how often will voraciuos hatchlings attack when they're in tantrum?
I'm asking because I had some stupid wipes with me die in 2-3 seconds It took me to get to a lava worm and get tantrum off (and I'm not exactly undergeared 93.6% parry + dodge + block +miss unbuffed ).
My guess is that my healer was chasing dps to dispell the fieroblaststs and kept barely range of me (confident that I didn't need the healing ) and was out of range when i moved in for the worm , or started casting a large heal that landed too late (or didn't landed because I moved out of range) or a combination of both.
Hatchling have a normal speed attack speed of 2 sec( but I'm not sure ), tantrum should have it to 1 sec and speed debuff 20% should be 1.2 sec. so in the worst case scenario in ~ 3 sec i get 3 full hits (with 50% extra dmg)
Is that enough dmg to kill a tank (198k hp) or something went really wrong.

Kommentar von anotherone

For this fight, we had both our tanks (warrior/dk) switch out a couple pieces to get the hit and expertise cap (8% and 26 respectively). This seems to allow your dps to mostly focus on the initiates with tanks killing or coming very close to killing before the tornado phase. If it continues to be an issue with one not killing fast enough, a rogue throwing tricks on one of the tanks should be more than enough.

Sometimes the hatchlings won't tantrum immediately after the satiated buff wears off, but you should still be close enough to your worm that within 2 sec he can eat a worm. It's a frustrating tank fight at first, but the second you beat it once it's much easier to gauge.

Kommentar von 837005

We tried 3heal/2tank/1flyer/4interrupter and 2heal/2tank/2flyer/4interrupter setups also.

But it is so far the hardest boss in our guild's history, we spent a lot of time without success (his normal mode beated Sindragosa HC / Blood Princes HC / Prof HC old record keepers :) ). The fight is quite long and there are always 1 ppl dead and from that point it is undoable. I hope we kill him soon. :(

PS: We don't have problems with hatchling deaths in time or interrupts, just some randopm hurricane / lava worm breath 1-shot, tank death...

Kommentar von Elfeaterdk

I've just written a complete guide for downing this boss on 10man normal, which I will properly expand for 25man once it get approved.

Hope you guys will like the guide, as it's the first one I've written.

Kommentar von 844373

In-depth guide to what the air phase is like in 10m normal - guild hasn't done heroic yet, and we didn't have any ranged that knew how to fly one week...so I ended up going up as enhance...wrote this out for the ranged for that so they would understand, hope it helps for others as well.

This guide is written assuming you already know the other aspects of the fight. If people so wish it, I will add the other aspects of the fight in this guide as well as the fight's PoV from the ground.

THINGS TO NOTE: Wings of Flame buff (the 3 feather stacks buff) lasts for 30 seconds, and is refreshed each time you successfully go through a ring. This means you have 30 seconds until the you plummet from the sky (if you keep missing rings). For each ring you go through, you gain 8% haste + mana/runic power/energy/rage regen. This stacks up to 25. Once you go through 25 rings, you get a buff that grants you 75% crit chance - this stacks with your current crit, and you can go over 100%. This buff has a 40 second duration and will get refreshed after each ring you go through. Each set of rings will only last for about 3 seconds before they fade away. If you happen to miss 1 ring early or mid fight, don't fret; you aren't going to lose stacks or fall to your death unless you hit a cloud or miss 7 rings in a row (7 rings was before the 9/20 patch. Now if you miss 10 rings in a row you will faceplant into the ground).

^Wings of Flame buff now lasts 30 seconds, up from 20 seconds, since the 9/20/11 patch.

WHAT TO FLY THROUGH - RINGS. You will know when you go through a ring because there will be a fireworks effect inside the inner circle of the ring when you do.

WHAT NOT TO FLY THROUGH - Giant cheese balls of death. Hitting one WILL cause you to plummet from the sky.

ROUNDS OF RINGS: For simplistic purposes, I will use ratios as Cheese balls:Rings

Round 1 - Poops out 9 1:1s. Simple enough.
Coming down from round 1 - Poops out one more 1:1 before she flies through the center to poop out 3 2:1s (the 2:1s are in a straight line). Most of the time the 2:1s will have the ring in the center; however, it may be on one of the sides.
Round 2 - Poops out 9 2:1s. Easy enough. They look like tilted Vs on their side.
Coming down from round 2 - Poops out 1 more 2:1 ratio like the ones above then 3 2:1s that are in a straight line again. The second line of 2:1s she poops out during cleaving is the EARLIEST you will have 25 stacks of rings if you made it through each one by this point.
Round 3 - 10 3:1 ratios. Seems to be ring first followed by 3 cheese balls in a triangle formation.
Tornado phase: 6 sets of 3 rings each. There will be one ring in each lane of the tornadoes - there are 4 lanes of tornadoes. If you went through the 10th ring of round 3(or even better, the first set of 3 rings before tornadoes spawn), do not worry about the first 5 (4) sets of rings - your buff will still have 7 seconds left on it when the last set of rings spawn. The 6th set of rings will spawn just as the tornadoes start dissipating. Make sure you refresh here or else you lose out on 200% haste and 75% crit during burn phase.

TOTAL NUMBER OF RINGS: 54. The total number of rings you will go through if you don't miss ANY during Rounds 1-3 and tornado phase will be 42, although only if you skip the first 5 in tornado phase you will end up going through 39. If you do not hit this number, don't worry...just make sure you end up with 25 stacks of rings by the end of the fight so you get the 75% crit buff.

WHAT NOT TO DO: DO NOT fly in front of bird while she is cleaving through the center. You WILL cleave yourself. The cleave hits for about 55k per hit (this is with fire resist up) before the debuff kicks in for subsequent hits. As ranged this will not be a problem. Although you do need to refresh your buff during tornado phase, DO NOT try to do it mid phase. You will only end up running into tornadoes and taking avoidable damage. The tornado phase lasts 30 seconds - as long as you got the 10th ring in round 3 of rings / the 1st ring of tornado phase, you can ignore the rest until the last set of rings (6th set) in tornado phase.

NOTE TO SHAMANS FLYING: You will NOT benefit from your totems AT ALL during air phase - she will keep flying out of ranged of your totems unless you plant your totems in the center of her flight pattern. Even then, searing totem and magma totem will be out of range of hitting her.

Kommentar von nater131

Hotfix 9/20
Health and damage have been reduced by 25% on normal difficulty. Health and damage have been reduced by 15% on Heroic difficulty.
Alysrazor now drops 1 additional feather in 10-player mode and 2 additional feathers in 25-player mode in all cycles.
The Wings of Flame buff duration on Alysrazor is now uniformly 30 seconds.
Alysrazor’s Fiery Tornados now move slower.

Kommentar von Fuzzywiggles

Not too sure when health pools get updated on wowhead but when we did alys last night on 10m normal i wrote down her new HP. As long as my ability to read my own writing is up to par her new hp on 10m normal is 41,228,160

Kommentar von gemanoma

I miss Alysra! I don't want kill Alysrazor! :'(.

Kommentar von Antox

Alysrazor has a huge hitbox and it is possible to attack Alysrazor as a melee during the tornado phase each time she passes.

Kommentar von Elfeaterdk

Heroic tactics for 10man now also up in the Guide system

Kommentar von cywang86

Easy steps for hatchling tanks:

GRAB A FEATHER! It helps you immensely and no ground dps should get it before you do
Divide the east and west worms using Alysrazor's Blazing Claws. World raid mark the safe zones between your first sets of worms. (to prevent early accidental worm usage)
Do not move the hatchling unless you're moving to the safe zone or the worms. Your healers will thank you for not having to choose between fire or watch you die.
When the hatchlings spawn, drag them to the previously marked safe zones
Wait 3~10 seconds after it's hungry, depending on gear, or as soon as you see it's having a tantrum before consuming the first worm.
If you're on normal mode, 50% dmg redution through the tantrum between first and second worm
Repeat 5 for the second worm, and keep the hatchling there or you'll risk wasting one of your new spawns
Repeat 5 and 7 for the next set of worms (Normal) or the next two sets of hatchlings (HM).

Some other tips:

The safe zone and two hatchlings triangle movement makes you so much more predictable for your healers. They should never have to chase you across the map and risk getting killed by fire again.
DON'T TOUCH THE FIRE! Fire is the leading cause of tank death, or anyone's for that matter. Raid eating a gushing > you getting hit by any form of fire damage
! When glyphed and cast on CD by a feral, it's easily 10k dps.
Prioritize eating the left worm (right when facing out), it helps the initiate groups to maneuver around their targets.
Pop your dps CD! Zornige Vergeltung, Berserker, , Runenwaffe verstärken, Schildblock. The faster you get them dead, the better.

Kommentar von Omniwolph

Alysra used to be an Emerald Drake who betrayed her allies and brought Staghelm to Ragnaros, and as reward she became a Fire Hawk.

Kommentar von redterror117

Chasing the tornadoes seems to help quite a bit. Especially if you're lucky enough to have a ring spawn on top of you ;)
Did this the first time in FL and I was one of the few to survive the test run, lol

Kommentar von 798034

guaranteed people will wipe on this fight a few times.

mostly to Tornados in the fiery vortex part.
my advice for tornados is simple.. wait for one to appear then follow it. once another tornado passes by it on the left or right side do a 180* turn (turn around) and chase that one instead. The nerfed tornado speed makes this quite manageable.

if u are a flyer/ mage be sure to grab rings of flame while kiting the tornados (although try not to endanger yourself by eating a tornado and dying at the same time).

once she burns out u have till 50 energy to blow cds and burn the hell outta her.

a very smart mage will combust during this part just before the 50 energy to ensure maximum dps.

afterwards be sure to stack with your group (and not the tank by accident lol unless u wanna get cleaved and die). and wait for feathers from the middle to appear. the cycle repeats itself.

some flying tips:

zoom out ur camera so u can see rings better. its best to move immediatly once u see a ring. u have a mere 3 seconds before it vanishes.

some people will say rings vanish if a person touches one so 2 people shouldnt go up or they will use the other persons rings. this is a lie. rings do not vanish if 2 people interact with them. they just vanish after 3 seconds. it has been proven.

when alysrazor dips low and spawns rings do not get super close to her.. u wanna look carefully for rings and not fire waves.. the most important part of flying is getting 25 stacks and keeping that.. if u lose it.. u are in for a long fight.

and mostly if u have DMC:V and stuff like lightweave power torrent try not to dps aly during the fiery tornados only collect rings.. ur cooldowns should align by the burnout phase and stack properly for more dps. better than wasting them while u are running around.

ground people:
ranged avoid the fiery waves and brushfire coming at you and look carefully for initiates.. they spawn 2 on either side but sometimes u gotta really look for em.. u can also dps hatchlings once ur done with the druids. also interrupt their fiery blast if u can.

and one final tip.
sometimes healers will grab feathers just so they can cast while moving.. only 1 feather per healer is needed but be sure to get them only after the 1-2 flyers go up first.

Kommentar von 865803

Went with a competent group on my hunter for the first time. I did not know the fight at all, and I was instructed "just chase the tornado and DPS the druids".

So the fight started and it was not that intense. Not until the tornadoes. I was so inexperienced and almost got burnt to death. But I must tell you, our healers were kicking ass. They saved my noob ass during the tornado period and managed to stay alive. After 10 minutes, I have already blown 4 Rapid Fires already and it was close to the end.

I pressed on and fought hard. Killed many druids and stayed alive. In the end, everyone was so pumped to kill this bird. We were all time warped and everyone blew their CD's. And it was killed.

I couldn't believe it. It was my first try, and we downed this #$%^&. And I thought to myself, wow...this is the most epic fight I have ever fought in WoW. It wasn't the Lich King, it wasn't Magmaw, certainly not Nefarian, but Alysrazor.

Wow....it was epic.

Kommentar von Euphemia

Another Flaskaholics stratvideo is up, also post-nerfs, and it does indeed show how this fight is probably slightly undertuned - but then again, Blizzard wants the masses to get in there - so there it is, as it is. You should all get in there, as there shouldn't be much holding people back now.

In this particular video, the rogue is alone on Initiates on one side, and has no binding on her kick, so didn't really get to interrupt the (now) so few Fieroblasts - but still...

Good luck, peeps!

Kommentar von 806819

Tip for mages download the addon name CombustionHelper it really helps to do a combustion huge dps when u fly :D
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Kommentar von Unrage

The theme of this boss - Druids of the Flame - seems to be the most wonderful song ever!
In case you wanna hear it:
http://wowimg.zamimg.com/wowsounds/sound/music/cataclysm/mus_42_druidsoftheflamea_hero_uu01.mp3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXcAWY-V6kE

Ps: We call upon you, Firelord!

Kommentar von Jhoff

When starting this fight, make sure that everyone have a vanity-pet out, and then move to the back of the room, stack up and then start the fight by having someone (maybe hunter pet) move to Majordomo. When he drags everyone in and root them, the pets following the raid behind looks awesome =D

Kommentar von Guanyin

Strangely, fire mages have no problem fighting her.

Kommentar von 981083

Since the current patch 5.0.4, there have been bugs with her encounter. On normal mode, less tornadoes can spawn. They are very bugged, and move slowly, or stop all together. Some fly up into the air and out of her room. On heroic mode the tornadoes dont spawn at all, I have not seen a blue post commenting on this but it's either a bug or the tornadoes have been super hard nerfed. If updated Ill comment here again, but the bug makes getting "Do a Barrel Roll" achievement very easy.

Kommentar von 622946

Still soloable as a mage (5.0.4).

Miniguide.

To kill trash, you need only Cold Snap: sit in an Ice block in one Egg Thingie, than in another, casters will run to you and die with egg pile from fire. Small birds from eggs can be slowed and rooted.

I've found impossible to stack ignite (may be I'm wrong with that one?) and kill Alysrazor in one phase in 5.0.4, so I have to live through Harsh Winds.
To do that, you should have all the buffs for stamina you can find and something for survavability.

One important note: Alysrazor loves to evade, so you should fly as close as possible from the beginning till the end of the encounter.

Before Alysrazor's Firestorm you should have an ice barrier on yourself and around 5s or less till the end of the cooldown on it. Fly to the nearest rocks outside of her arena and brace yourself. When both of your barriers break, you should use Evocation and, when your health reaches 20-30%, use Ice block. When she drops in center time for some healing.
When her energy reaches around 20-30%, just release copies and wait. Around 85% of energy it is time to use your 2nd Ice Block.
I've found this consequence the most reliable for survival.

After that, it is just matter of gear (and flying). Mine is around 405 and I have 10-15s of spare time before the end of 2nd flying, so with 395-400 you probably would be fine. Good indicator is Alysrazor's health before Firestorm - it should be less than 50%:)

Hope this helps somebody and good luck with mount :)

P.S. MOP update - can be done on 87lvl, if you're afraid of stat drop of 88lvl, or very easily done (no need for scrolls or flasks) on 90 with ~450ilvl (however, still have to live through the storm). In 470 and hitcapped would be done in one round, I think.

P.P.S The fight is possible to solo in heroic mode as a mage, just pop ice barrier and cast evocation during her ministorm, the rest is just the same. After first landing her health is below 30% in 475, in normal mode - below 5% =)

Another update, haven't seen it mentioned, the fight can be done by WW monk with relative ease, the haste buff causes immense energy regeneration and you could heal via orbs during the transition outside of her arena and use safe abilities at your leisure.

Kommentar von Stimmie

Currently, there is a method which cause you not to root in the beginning of the fight. Before the start of the event, just use your Darkmoon "Tiger", bought in the Darkmoon Faire. Dismount when the event is started. This way you won't be rooted and you can attack Majordomo Staghelm.

Kommentar von 317120

Soloed heroic as a mage -- before phase 3 -- , ilvl 478.

My talents were Scorch, Ice Barrier, Frostjaw, Cold Snap, Nether Tempest, and Invocation.

Ice Barrier for safety, Cold Snap to be explained, Nether Tempest to take advantage of the fact that more haste makes it do more damage, and Invocation for reliable healing.

After reading terrytibs' post, I was still left quite confused as to why I kept dying: my own stupidity, bad timing or bad placement may have been factors. I had a 3% wipe, and a 100k wipe. However, I had a brainwave, and thought of using Alter Time to negate the removal of the Wings of Flame buff.

You know what? It worked.

This one spell has the ability to change the entire fight. I killed Alysrazor before she even burned out, which is a testament to how you can really cheese certain fights. I kept piling on the pyroblasts, slapped on that massive combustion and she went down very quickly. The adds didn't even get to touch me, they just watched helplessly as their favourite birdie was burnt so badly that she stopped burning altogether.

In short:

Proceed as normal.
Watch for the game's warning that Wings of Flame is about to be removed.
Use Alter Time about a second after this.
Keep throwing pyroblasts until you start falling, where you click Alter Time again.
Enjoy your impunity and bring the pyroblasts and combustion to her dirty face.

Bear in mind, my item level is 478, and I did use a 1000 int flask. I also abused the fact that you can get two stacks of Blazing Power from one ring, so I managed to get 20 stacks by the first Firestorm. Lower gear may force you to use traditional tactics anyway.

Kommentar von 93783

If your going to try to solo this fight be prepared for a ton of deaths and rage... I died about 5 times before I had a handle on what to do but the next 5 were LITTERED with despawns (fall to death), glitches (hatchlings taking no damage until cooldowns drop off) and insane amounts of damage that make you question how a cata geared tank took a single hit

Kommentar von 780729

Don't know what I'm doing wrong, but she keep reseting mid fight.

*Fire Mage solo

Kommentar von zennon999

It's still fairly easy in 5.1. with fire mage.

My alysrazor solo with fire mage

Just be sure to stay on his tail for him not to despawn.

Kommentar von Thiagorz

Soloed this monster today with a Blood Dk ilvl 480 (full pvp gear).

Kommentar von Ashleyy

Just soloed today as a ret pally,I can confirm this drops the mount on 10 man, I soloed this for the first time today and to my surprise it dropped. Took me about 15 trys until I got a good strategy. Good luck to everyone especially you ret pallies!

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8136/wowscrnshot121212183554.jpg

Kommentar von Ciel

Just as a minor note to any warlocks who might want to solo this encounter. If you're specced into Kil'Jaeden's Cunning it will still snare you in the air even if you would otherwise be able to move and cast because of the feathers.

Either spec out of the talent or activate the use effect (which also disables the passive while it's on CD)

Kommentar von Saniya

Soloed normal on a Fury Warrior with 489 ilvl in 2 phases.

Stay on the ground until the Voracious Hatchlings spawn. You should be able to kill them quickly while DbtS is up and distracting them with the 4 worms that spawn. With all cooldowns popped and Bladestorm, I was able to get them to about 20-30% before feeding them worms.

Once the hatchlings are dead take to the skies and beat on Alysrazor. Your goal is to get as close to maxing Blazing Power as possible. Once the ground phase starts up, ignore the adds; they will not attack you unless you attack them first. You should be able to max Blazing Power during this phase. I was able to bring her down to about 48% when she landed.

Phase 4 can get a little damage intensive. I found it best to go into defensive stance and pop Shield Wall and DbtS to minimize the damage you take. You can also use Heroic Leap or Intervene your banners to get out of her attack range for a few seconds.

Once phase 1 starts up again, just go up immediately. Once she gets to 20% she'll go down extremely quickly with Execute and max Blazing Power.

Also when you're in the air try to stay close to her or else she'll despawn. Feel free to use bandages if you got a free moment as you can move while using them in this fight.

Kommentar von 896085

the 2 bird adds kick my butt on the ground im dead after they eat the first worm as a hunter i must be doing something wrong but i have died 30 plus times trying to figure it out

Kommentar von qaccy

If anyone wanting to solo was wondering (like I was at first), you don't have to clear ANY trash on the way to Alysrazor, except for the stuff in her room obviously. You can sneak your way past everything between the entrance and that point.

Kommentar von 1075106

solo'd this on my feral main.

Trash:

You'll want to have a guardian spec, preferably, or be ready to blow Survival Instincts rather early. The Birds spit fire, which kills stuff. What is dangerous is the casters - they can/will blow you up without getting killed or interrupted normally. Once the casters are dead, it's basically just the egg piles and their stream of adds - kite the Bird's Fire Spit into the egg piles, then into each other bird. Confirmed last time I did it that the Bird's Fire Spit will damage themselves.

Additionally, at least go up the ramp to Rhyolith and push back the big elite. If you can survive against the 2 lesser (but still hard hitting) elementals after that, go for it. The big elite guy probably won't be doable until 5.2//tier 15 or tier 16.

When that's all done, get ready to face off Alysrazor; get a DPS spec ready, eat food if you want, flask if you want, and attack Majordomo Staghelm//Click the Feather.

Phase 1: Air Phase

Grab 3 feathers, preferably with the last one she drops being the last one you need. Then it's the easiest part of the fight: fly in circles spamming your DPS rotation. Literally fly through the fire circles. Each one gives you a haste buff and stacks to an insanely high point. When you hit 25 stacks, you also gain a pretty great crit buff.

Wings of Flame will last 30 seconds, and is refreshed for each ring you fly through. Thus it's important not only for the haste/crit buff, but also so you don't fall out of the sky, to grab every available fire ring. Don't worry if you miss one, but if you miss 2 in a row, you could fall out of the sky, or 3 in a row and you'll be practically guaranteed to fall out of the sky.

Be aware that on Normal she will descend and cleave across the arena, during this time she still spawns fire rings for you to fly through!

As Feral, this basically means you'll be auto-attacking a lot faster, have a ton of combo points available, and should have no problem keeping Rip and SR rolling with enough to spare for a ton of Ferocious Bites that you probably aren't conventionally used to using as part of your regular rotation!

Phase 2: Fire Storm

This phase is why you went back to push back the elemental on the ramp to Rhyolith, and optionally killed the 2 elementals just past that.

Fly back to that area; the little bumpy area where no meteors will hit. As soon as you start taking damage for being out of her arena, pop barkskin and rejuv yourself. NS+HT or Renewal can and should be used here. Tranquility is an option but shouldn't be used. Any time you aren't casting a heal on yourself, make sure you're in Bear Form. If possible, save Survival Instincts. Use Innervate if you're OOM.

She will eventually end the fire storm and be in the regular Burn Out phase, keep healing yourself for as much as you have mana.

When Burnout ends, stay in Bear form until she makes her way back to you. If you still have it, Survival Instincts and Might of Ursoc will make you durable enough to take a hit or two until her knockback. Make sure you don't get knocked off a cliff or into the big guy in front of Rhyolith!

Then she drops feathers, so grab 3 of them as soon as you can, and go directly to the arena, precisely the nearest fire ring before your Wings of Flame debuff wears off.

I've only bothered doing her on Normal mode so far, but I imagine the heroic mode strategy would be practically identical (maybe different timing of CD's to survive outside during fire storm).

In 503 iLvl gear, I can get her down to about 25% just before the first Fire Storm on Normal mode.

Cat form specifically will usually mean a fall from the typical "I'm grabbin' rings" height won't be exactly lethal, if the fall doesn't kill you, you'll be at sub-20%. If the fight doesn't reset from you falling, you'll die from either the fall OR from the mass of adds below you.

Be aware that her fight can/will reset seemingly randomly, I'm leaning toward it has to do with a falling player entity (You) being "evade worthy" for mobs, thus causing it to reset. Just shrug it off, avoid missing rings or things that can knock you around in the air, and you'll get it eventually.

Kommentar von 237666

Why nobody is talking about what item level is good enough to solo kill Alys? My shadow priest is at 481 (mostly LFR and blues) Is that good for me to try it or don't even bother yet?

Kommentar von 896085

how do you kill the 2 big bird adds that spawn without dying i cant find nothing about it?

Kommentar von aletuna

Managed to down Alysrazor nhc as a survival hunter..
Done it this way:

I didnt fly for 1 full phase circle. Killed all initiates and hatchlings (couldnt survive a tornado phase outside the combat zone) in phase 1.

For phase 4 i kited her a bit and used feign death so she attacked my pet for the rest of the phase. After the first cycle i just finished her in the air but it was a pretty close kill (2% hp left or smth and already in tornado phase).

The most important thing was to get the hatchlings down ASAP! Used all cds+potion, powershot->readiness->2nd powershot (make sure to hit both with it). After they reached me I used deterrence to avoid beeing hit until the worms spawn I also kited them with rocket boots to minimize melee damage (these hatchlings can hit pretty hard). Make sure to use all 4 worms to avoid as much melee attacks as possible. I usually die if i cant down both of them after I used the last worm.

Talents used:
Tier 1: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Chimera (No real alternatives here)
Tier 2: Silencing Shot (To interrupt the adds in phase 3)
Tier 3: Spirit Bond (I'm using exhileration for my weekly kills now, just seems better. Make sure to heal yourself with bandages before phase 4 though)
Tier 4: Thrill of the Hunt (important for hatchlings)
Tier 5: A Murder of Crows (Again no real alternatives)
Tier 6: Powershot (important for hatchlings)

497 Ilvl

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fe4q0iYhPE

I do it a bit different now though, I just come down for the hatchlings with 7 or 8 stacks (as soon as the warning "The molten eggs begin to hatch" or something like that comes up get yourself in position) and go back up as soon as the hatchlings are dead, the initiates wont do anything even in phase 3/4. You wont have any problems with dps this way, all you need to do is survive hatchlings/phase 4 and its a kill most likely. Also dont pick a feather while molting is active, she tends to reset if you do it.

Kommentar von Araitik

Soloed as a mage on 25man Normal mode.

Fire spec of course :)

Talents :
- Presence of Mind : yes, scorch is useless here since MoP. Ignite got reworked, no longer possible to stack it like crazy. Move on.
- Ice Barrier : Shield is good.
- Cold Snap : We need 2 Iceblock, 4 minutes apart. Iceblock CD is 5 minutes. Do the maths.
- Nether tempest : scales better with haste than Living Bomb. Also Combustion got nerfed to only account Ignite, so much better choice herE.
- Invocation : More Evocations = more heal

Glyphs :

- Evocation : heal is good etc
- Combustion : I put this one early, don't know if it's required but it worked with it.
- Iceblock : not required in my down but if you lack some dps it can save you at the end, as you'll get a 3 seconds invincibility from Alysrazor's cleaves.

Gear & Buffs :

I started with Haste build and Mage armor but it wasn't working. Tried full mastery build and Mage armor to boost ignite but I lost DPS. The solution is to pick a Haste build (my usual Frost build was perfect) and use Frost armor. More haste = more happiness.
Used +300 int food, +1000 int flask and Drums of Forgotten Kings. No "not self" buff required.

Encounter :

Good old Alysrazor, plus a few tricks. Start with a normal Fire rotation, don't forget to refresh Evocation when needed. Spam Pyroblast around 20 stacks of Blazing Power, or when its cast time becomes close to 1 second, it depends on your gear. Considering that you cannot dps her during ground phases you'll have around 12 minutes to kill her. I did 177k dps, so this is close to the minimum requirement.
But this wouldn't still be enough without a little trick : how to avoid losing Wings of Flame. Easy peasy. When P2 starts you'll get a warning message saying the wings are going to wear off. 3 seconds after that, cast Alter time and don't do anything. As soon as you start falling, cast AT again. Win
Continue to spam pyros, don't leave the arena (no Harsh Winds lolol) and leave just before Wings of Flame end.
Then wait in the middle of Rhyo's hill (don't go too far or Alysrazor will stay behind the wall and you won't be able to reach the feathers). When alysrazor gets close to you Iceblock and wait till she is at 100 molten power.
Do this 3 times and win

How about HM ?

Well the DPS requirement will be even more insane (220k dps based on the 2-man post). I can certainly not pull this off with my gear (484 atm) but a well geared mage could certainly. Try and see by yourself

Done with 484 Ilvl and no set bonuses.

Video : Youtube
WM : http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=227139

Kommentar von 896085

just soloed it as a 453 fire mage all haste build got her down right before the 3rd tornado it was hard but i did it!

Kommentar von 1106009

Hello everyone.

Until today i killed alysrazor (10m) always as Blood DK. Bored of that long fight, i tried it as dw frost dk with an average ilvl of 496. Surprisingly, she went down in the first try, during her second air phase.

Special talents used:

The key to this fight was 'death siphon' . This skill deals ranged damage and returns 150% of that damage as health back to the user. This was the key mechanic to heal myself during the fight. I chose it to be able to regain constantly life during the airphase - however it worked incredibly well in combination with the hatchlings. The 1000% dmg-debuff they play on the tank results in >200k death siphon hits on the hactlings, which means that one use basicly heals the user from zero to 100%.

Tactics:

summon army and pull her. Start rotation, collect feathers and begin following her, collecting every flame ring she summons.

After about 5-7 stacks fly down to the hatchlings and begin cleaving them down, using death siphon to heal the quite impressive damage they are able to deal.

ideally you still have the stacks and after collecting another feather you can fly back up and stack the haste-buff (that was difference to bloodspec: because of the lower damage, i always lost stacks during that phase)

tornado phase: fly down, follow tornados, refresh stacks and heal up using death siphon. You can still melee her most of the time, even while running. Pop cooldwons, once she lies down, and ignore the adds. once she reaches 50 energy, start using death siphon / deathstrike to heal back up - the enormous rune regeneration should yield enought healing potential (and enough damage through frost strike). Use AMS if necessary.

NOTE: It seemed that the little adds casting pyroblasts ignore you, if you don't attack them first - so try to avoid aoe attacks (HB!) during tornado phase.

NOTE2: I ignored the adds to shorten this phase : i realized i dealt enough dmg anyway, and the end of the melee phase can be nasty, if you loose the stacks, resulting in severly reduced healing output because of the missing haste buff.

After that: rinse and repeat.

Tl, dr:
- dw frost was used , ilvl 495
- death siphon during hatchling phase, and to heal in general
- don't lose stacks
- heal by using death siphon / deathstrike during melee phase when she has >50 energy
- she died early in the second air phase

Pros compared to blood-Spec:

- more fun (at least in my eyes)
- faster

cons:

- hatchling phase can be tricky if you have no runes / CDs (however, this is quite unlikely with 4-5 stacks of the buff)

last, but not least: sorry for my bad english.

Jack

Kommentar von Poxic

Something odd is happening with Divine Shield during the harsh winds phase of the soloing process. It's activating, causing forbearance, and displaying the visual shield, but damage from harsh winds is still being taken.

So, it's possibly a new bug, or they decided to nerf immunities when it comes to Harsh Winds, which would be an odd choice as it only affects a very small number of soloing methods for Alysrazor, while not touching any other of the classes etc...

Kommentar von 516836

Here is an easy way to solo this as a Frost DK without having to deal with the hatchlings. The caveat to this is that it will be difficult to do with more than one tornado phase due to relying on a health pot to keep health up during Harsh Winds.

Spec into Anti-Magic Zone and Death Siphon, and make sure you have a health pot and max level bandage ready.

When Aly flies down to start the tornado phase, fly down to the molten lake between Aly's area and Lord Rhyolith's area (be on Aly's side of the lake). Do not use Army as they often pull the hatchlings. Use AMZ, AMS, health potion, and Death Siphon to keep yourself up through Harsh Winds. The increased rune regeneration and crit chance from Wings of Flame will allow a lot of healing from Death Siphon, and standing next to the molten lake allows you to be in range for it most of the time. After she burns out, move up Rhyolith's hill to the safe zone at the top on the right and wait for her to come at you. This is a good time to bandage if low on health, but make sure to do it before Harsh Winds starts ticking again.

Kommentar von 258224

Soloed it for the first time yesterday as a survival hunter. I have 520ilv atm but the hunter video I used as a guide had lower gear guess the key part is having enough health around 500k. Its the fly only tactic.
The hardest part by far is simply surviving the tornado phase.

Consumables I used:Fläschchen der Erde, Runenschriftrolle der Seelenstärke III(Stamina buff if you dont have a priest buff available) and Optional some Agi foods. The guy in the video also used also BoK
I only had health pots and bandage available no HS unfortunately.

Talents used: Freudentaumel,Überspannen,Jagdfieber,Die Vögel
Glyphs Used: Glyphe 'Geistbande', Glyphe 'Abschreckung', Glyphe 'Irreführung'

Simply start the pull unload as much as you can, Serpent, Black arrow, Explosive,Crows and try to get a power shot off. Start picking up feathers and fly as close to her as possible.(after you are up use a Bandage or Exhilaration) Personally for the first half lap I simply focused on getting as many rings as possible, to make sure I got the Powershot casting time down as fast as possible. After she went for her first pass down I started fully unloading everything while still getting the rings. you have about 3 laps I believe and by the third one she should be around 50% or lower (I was usually around 46% or so) and that was with still trying to get the feel of the flying and grabbing rings.

When she starts the tornado phase, wait 4-5 seconds near the fire wall (entrance) and keep shooting. Important dont land outside on the rock yet! or be outside the ring yet this is IMPORTANT because else you simply wont survive. I had a lot of hit and misses here.(to soon/to late, agroing the birds etc) also important that you are at FULL health when you start this phase or its basically byebye. When you are at around 40/30% health Deterrence and Exhilarate and readiness. At this point you should be around 10 seconds left in to the phase simply deterrence again and Exhilarate again. (use a health pot or bandage or HS if you have it available) dont try to use all of them. When she crashes run to the side drop a snake trap, summon your pet. DO NOT summon it during the firestorm because 9/10 you aggro the birds.

Depending on your health feel free to use the remaining items available to you (bandage,pot or HS) aim for about 50% health if possible around 250k the higher the better tho so dont be shy using everything at this point. Because you will be receiving around 225k damage during this phase(without getting hit by the boss if you do, you might not survive).

When she comes running to you try to make her run over the trap (she actually missed mine during my kill). MD pet and send it in keep moving away from her because agro will stay on you. Blow your stampede (a gift from heaven)
feign death and stay down for a couple of seconds so she completely stays on your pets. she has to claw trough 5-6 of them so it will take so much time she lifts off again.
You either survive this phase with quite some health left or with a slither of health left no worries grab the feathers asap and get back up. Don't freak like I did :D avoid the clouds and try to grab some rings asap. Your first lap main priority is simply to survive (AKA dont hit any clouds or drop down) when she goes for her first pass down your bandage,exhilaration should be off CD by now use them and then rinse and repeat till she dies.

Kommentar von smackthekids

As of 5.3 ... Alysrazor is so rediculously bugged it makes me want to cry. Took me about 20 attempts just to not randomly dismount in the air and die, and 50% of the flame rings she spawns (for haste buff) will spawn outside of the fighting area, instantly dismounting and resetting her if you go get them. Oy... submitted a bug report and hope it gets fixed, most annoying fight of my life today, and I've been soloing her for ages, so its nothing I'm doing differently.

Kommentar von 534213

I can confirm that even after adding the debuff onto Alysrazor during the tornado phase, the adds will not chase you when you're outside of the area.
What will make the adds chase you is if your pets or totems are within the tornado area. It worked well when I didn't summon totems or pets.

Kommentar von 891438

are blizzard did something or wtf happneds he resets every time i get 9 stacks buff :(

Kommentar von Arcturius1

just solo'ed her first time today without any problems with 528 ilvl feral druid pushing 200k dps she died few secs before fiery vortex sadly no mount dropped ;(

Kommentar von Qoko

Can add to the heroic solo-ing, but it might be a clear advantage for a rogue at the moment. Solo'd it myself at 535ilvl and basically didn't have to use any defensive abilities due to the autohealing of Leeching Poison after Firestorm (which hits you for about 250k). Few pointers:

Make sure to pick up two feathers, walk with her and then pick up the third under her. Pick it up at the start and you're too far away, resetting.
All rings are vital, you can drop a second of dps to get all rings. By the time you get the crit buff she'll start her final round.
If it seems a ring is too far out of reach, then you are better off skipping or risk a reset.
Pretty sure you can continue dpsing for some seconds as she comes and is down, before the hatchlings shred you apart, but at my itemlevel I didn't need this at all (was only 2/3 underway phase 1).

Kommentar von Kyok

If you are having problem with her despawning here is a solution I found on BattleNet forums.

She despawns when you are too far away from her when she goes down in the middle. Stay closer to her and you won't have that issue.

Props to Spamfu for this tip.
Source

Kommentar von 967940

The gnomes from Finsteres Juju count as valid targets on the ground. I can solo her on normal with this trinket w/o killing any adds or having her phase. The gnomes are up 100% of the time b/c of the haste. You can just fly through the air collecting rings and DPSing her the entire time.

Kommentar von Frogspoison

Something to add is that, as of 5.4, the Harsh Winds debuff will now stack to 12 during the Fiery Vortex phase, making the strat where you stay out of the arena during tornadoes impossible to complete for certain classes, such as mages. It seems to stack up significantly more rapidly. I would submit this as a bug, and hopefully either get it fixed or someone get a blue/GM to comment on it saying whether or not it is intended.

Kommentar von bluudbath

In 5.4 she is easy to solo on my 520 feral druid thanks to erndog's tip about using Heart of the Wild to spam Healing Touch. I also solo her on a 532 hunter and a 514 combat rogue by bursting her down before the ground phase starts.(if you don't quite have her down when your wings come off Killing Spree might just finish her off) Next I will attempt it on my DK.

What classes are you soloing her with?

Kommentar von Kabookiejoe

Drums are rage are a nice addition to this fight,

And any class can use them

Kommentar von WoWman95

Wanted to test my skills as a 560 rogue, so I tried 25m norm. Unfortunately I only got it down to 25% before vortex and the voracious hatchlings killed me. 25m can probably be done with: 2 dps, or full H gear (I'll update once I get Assurance of Consequence because with it my CDs would be lower, so maybe easier?)

Kommentar von adaw31

I was able to solo Heroic 25 Alysrazor as a 565 ilvl WW monk. The dps requirement as a WW monk for this would probably be around 350k+. The reason being is because you want her dead before she does her second fiery vortex. If she gets to that second fiery vortex, once she falls from the sky the little birds will just run over to you. Now I will go over how to do it.

P1 - You engage the boss and just before she breaks out of the mountain, use your pot (it is needed) then pick up 2 feathers near her when she becomes attack able then 1 in the middle of the room. Once she flies up into the air, it is very similar to doing it on normal, you fly around the room tailing her and flying through the rings. But in heroic she uses an ability called firestorm. As a WW monk, for the first firestorm, you should use touch of karma. That way you can redirect all the damage you took from that firestorm back at her, then for the second firestorm, I'd recommend using diffuse magic so that you take minimal damage from the firestorm and have less healing being used and more damaging abilities. When she is getting close to using her fiery vortex, you need to make sure you have all 25 stacks of blazing power and collect the last ring before you land.

P2 - Okay so at this stage you should have 25 blazing power and should have collected the last ring before she started to use fiery vortex. When you have all the above done, you should land outside of the arena on the other side of the fire near the lava at the bottom of lord Rhyoliths trash and just spam healing orbs on yourself during this phase, because of the amount of haste you should have, you should be able to keep yourself up during this phase just by spamming your healing orbs on yourself.

P3 - Now she will fall down on the ground, during this part of the fight, you will want to just stay where you are and keep yourself up, but when her energy bar is close to 50, you will want to use Zen Meditation. Then she will start flying over towards you. Once she gets close to use and puts the debuff on you, use touch of karma again and just do as much dps as you can to her during this time, you will want her to be around 45% or lower at this stage of the fight. Once she goes back into the air just quickly pick up the feathers and go back up and rinse and repeat.

P1 - Its exactly the same as the first p1 except when you get to 25 stacks of blazing power, you will want to use you pot. By the time I killed her, she was about 10 seconds off from using her second fiery vortex.

P2 - If you get to P2 again, good luck trying to survive, once she falls back on the ground and fly's towards you, she will bring along the little birds that were never killed during both p1's. There is really no way you can survive that unless you pop every single CD but still, it'll be hard to survive that.

Just as a quick note, doing Alysrazor on 25 heroic does not increase the chance on the mount to drop, I only did it because I wanted to have a challenge. Also I would post a video of me doing the kill but when I tried to launch Fraps to record, it just made my fps plummet and would of made the fight 10x harder than it could have been. I will give a link to my armory as further proof that I am an ilvl 565 WW monk.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/Zhani/advanced

Kommentar von miksar18

Pretty easy to solo as 536 ilvl Frost DK. If you want to farm Flametalon of Alysrazor do the things described below (atleast 130k DPS required, but it's easily obtainable just by flying through circles)!

1. Firstly, kill 2 Harbringers of Flame. But be aware! Their Fieroblast hits pretty hard. Use your healing abilities like Death Siphon or Death Strike.

2. Make your way to the first Egg Pile. Doesn't matter which one you will take first. On your way be aware of Molten Barrage which can quickly kill you. Attack the Egg Pile until the Barrage comes to it, then go to the second one, attacking Smouldering Hatchlings on your way. Rinse and repeat until both piles are dead.

3. Kill Blazing Monstrosities still avoiding their barrage (remember, you can use it against them!).
Now for Alysrazor.

1. Use all of your CD's on the beginning. Army of Derps and so on. Then attack her as usual taking the feathers on your way (take the third feather when she is already UP, cause sometimes the fight likes to reset if you do it earlier).

2. Whilst in the air, attack Alysrazor and fly through every fire ring to gain Blazing Power attacking. When you reach 25 stacks you will gain Alysra's Razor which grants 75% critical chance. Remember, during all this phase you must to do your usual rotation!

If you did everything right, you will kill her during the flying phase automatically getting Do a Barell Roll! achievement.

Kommentar von alecrezyrk

somewhat of a easy solo as a ilvl 535 feral druid, with the haste buff you just have to worry about not getting burnt

Kommentar von vidartobiash

Hey, i saw on the youtube if you are soloing this, you can fly out from the field and up the mountain slope the moment when she spawns her flame tornadoes etc. is this possible for 5.4.2? :D

Kommentar von 1142916

why does this boss reset on me everytime I fly down to find more feathers? there are never anymore feathers for me to get. and it resets or I die before any feathers spawn. any help?

Kommentar von dean2810

I solo this weekly on my paladin (but have also soloed it on my 502 ilvl shammy)

Ive done 10 normal, 10 heroic and 25 normal.

Dps her as she moves through the field from behind, and then pick up the feathers. You need to take as many rings as possible, if your able to solo her before the "burnt out" phase, theres no need to do anything else than just fully nuke her down while collecting rings. I can kill her this way on heroic and normal 10. But i needed to do 25 a little different (and on my shammy).

If you cant kill her in just the air phase, do the same as before, collect feathers and fly up, collect 4 rings (first 4), by this time the eggs should be about to hatch, fly down and zerg the birds, they die pretty fast as you get a +damage buff (i have had it bug on me a few times and i dont get it, but it normally works proper after a reset). Then just fly up and do as normal, when the tornadoes come, keep collecting rings, then just blast her down. If you havent finished her off before she gains power again, you will need some self healing as she will hurt with her strikes. Once after that repeat 1st phase (you shouldnt need to kill eggs this time)

On heroic, the only different thing is she stays in the air casting firestorm instead of gusting through the field. So its actually easier as not as much flying movement :)

Kommentar von Negger

For all those people hating "the flying through rings" part as much as myself; as a 550 blood dk it is possible to do this without any flying at all.
Simple strategy:
Phase 1: As soon as Alysrazor comes down, drop all your offensive cooldowns, army etc and nuke her as much as you can. When she is flying around, take your time killing the eggs and the adds (don't have to worry too much about dying from fire) and make sure you attack her everytime she comes in range/flies by.
Phase 2: Stand in the middle and attack her as much as possible; don't waste time running around.
Phase 3: Attack her as much as possible.
Rince and repeat.
Took me 10 minutes, 2 armies, used 275 str food and that crystal of insanety gizmo. Was wearing most of my dps gear (rune of the fallen crusader), which gave me a 187k overall dps and best of all; didn't die once since I first tried this tactic.

Kommentar von 968833

Solo'ed it as a 557 BM Hunter with leg cloak on 10man

1. Had pots, BOAK, etc I suggest using a spirit beast for the heal

2. Popped lust at the start and attacked Aly i then picked up 3 feathers and followed her.

3. Passed through 4 rings and dropped down to burn the 2 hatchlings.

4. Went back up to continue attacking aly in the air.

5. Dodged tornados.

6. Blew my CDS during Burn out phase.

7. Dead

no mount though better luck next week.

Now i aint the greatest wow player but if i can do it then so can you.

Kommentar von GoRozZo

Nowadays Alysrazor is farming solo by any class without problems. The main possible trouble is evade if you fly from boss very far, but its more a random. So add a rare fire phoenix to your mount collection ;)
Killed by Rogue solo in Heroic mode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRuzzXVK_Vo

Kommentar von Mellro

Anyone else reminded of Superman 64 in the flying mechanic of this boss?

Kommentar von ucplayer

Just soloed as Frost DK in 522 pvp gear, missing 2% hit and 2% expertise.
First attempt wiped at 1% (i've killed her before but as blood), birds killed me.

2º Attempt it went all good and managed to kill ther in 3:17s which was no landings.
No mount tho.

Time to solo it in all my other classes :)

Kommentar von GoRozZo

Nowadays Alysrazar is farming solo by any class without problems. The main possible trouble is evade if you fly from boss very far, but its more a random. So add a rare fire phoenix to your mount collection ;)
Killed by Rogue solo in Heroic mode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRuzzXVK_Vo

Kommentar von benx2011

very easy for hunters, may sure you dont play BM because your pet cant fly. it will despawn if you are up into the air. recommended spec is MM, because each time you fly through a ring, you gain haste. and it stacks up to like 200%. haste is very favorable to MM. but SV is nice too. Make sure you stay close behind the boss. Even you can attack her in range, it can still reset if you dont stay close, especially each time she flies down.

just to remember
-pretty much the whole fight is chasing her in the air.
-pick up all 3 feathers
-fly through as many rings as possible, if you do, you wont have to pick up any feather again for the whole fight.
-stay close to the boss even you can attack her in range, especially when she flies down to lay feathers again. this is very important. or she will reset. and if you are in the mid air when she reset, you will take falling damage.
-don't need to worry about the adds, just focus on the boss
-when you are landed in the last phase, dodge all the tornado, re-summon your pet for passive healing(Spirit Bond talent), just focus and nuke the boss.

For mage, recommended spec would be Fire, since you can get the total of 200% haste from the rings and 75% crit buff. pretty much you can spam Pyroblast. Frost spec is OK since you get haste buff. Do not play Arcane.

Kommentar von TheOldBear

It is possible for Druid in Reisegestalt (using Glyphe 'Hirsch'), to carry a raid member while under the effects of Flammenschwingen. The two may not do any DPS(the Druid can kick the boss as a stag, but nothing else), but at level 90, and in a larger group, it shouldn't matter much.
And you're a flying stag! On fire! Or are riding a flying stag which is on fire. Either way, it is quite amusing.
I've posted a screen shot of this being done on the page for the Flammenschwingen buff.

Note: If the Druid is flying too high when Flammenschwingen expires, both druid and passenger will fall to their deaths. However, if the druid uses Wilde Attacke(assuming they're spec'ed into it) as they near the ground, it will break the fall and you both will survive.
Note 2: To those riding the Druid, beware that the if the Druid changes form, you, only you, will be dropped to your death - so be sure you trust your Druid!

Kommentar von benx2011

watch out when picking up feathers at the beginning of the fight. you might wanna pick 2 in the beginning, then pick the last one when the boss is about to finish laying feathers. if you pick 3 straight at the beginning, you will get knocked back, the boss might reset.