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Kommentar von rodalpho

Proc rate is as follows.

- Talisman of Bloodlust – 3.3 RealPPM on landing harmful abilities and spells, and melee/ranged abilities and swings. No ICD.

Sources:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7811342046?page=79#1561
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8197741003

Real PPM (RPPM) description:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6893549789#1

Kommentar von perculia

Trinkets using the RPPM system were modified yesterday, and Throne of Thunder trinkets got further proc changes:

Traditionally, trinkets and similar proc effects in the game had high proc chances with an internal cooldown (ICD). This made the procs random in theory, but really pretty predictable. You would know that a trinket would proc on the pull and then reliably every 45 sec (or whatever the ICD was).

For 5.2, we made a change to trinkets to make them less predictable and less boring with the RPPM system. Sometimes you can get lucky and get several back to back procs. This feels cool. Sometimes you can also be unlucky, and get long streaks when the trinket just refuses to proc. A trinket that is intended to proc every 1 minute could in theory go 8 minutes or more without activating.

Last night we hotfixed in a change for trinkets that use the RPPM system. Every time your trinket fails to proc, it increases the chance it will proc. Unlucky streaks will be more rare and extremely unlucky streaks should never happen. In addition, we increased the chance for these trinkets to proc on the pull. To top it off, we increased the proc rates of the Agility and Strength trinkets in Der Thron des Donners by 10% and the Intellect and Spirit trinkets by 5%.

Painfully detailed explanation for theorycrafting:
As usual, you absolutely do not need to know or understand the following in order to use or best take advantage of these procs. This info is just for theorycrafters who want to understand the exact details of the system, so that they can model and simulate it better.

Calculate the proc frequency as normal. Based on that, you can figure out the expected average proc interval. We also now keep track of time since the last successful proc (this is different from the time since last chance to proc), capped at 1000 sec. Multiply the proc chance by MAX(1, 1+((TimeSinceLastSuccessfulProc/AverageProcInterval)-1.5)*3). For example, if a proc has an average proc interval of 45 sec, and it’s been 72 sec since your last successful proc, you’ll get a 1.3x multiplier to your proc chance. If you’ve been out of combat for a few min, and it’s been 5 min since your last successful proc, you’ll get a whopping 16.5x multiplier to your proc chance.

Source: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8197741003#1

Kommentar von 1083981

Got it this morning and as far as i can tell I'm not happy with proc chances so far. So far i have got up to a max 3 stacks and mostly it expires with just 1.

Kommentar von 100929

Pretty much just gives you 1-2 procs at a time, maximum 3 which is already VERY rare. The overall buff is still better than the average 1 minute CD on use trinket though.

Kommentar von 179086

Subjectively speaking as the not-quite proud owner of this Raid Finder trinket, I can say that, after hours and hours of trials using every attack speed increase trick a Combat Rogue can think of:

1 stack (+1277 Haste) = 70% Uptime
2 stacks (+2554 Haste) = 40% Uptime
3 stacks (+3831 Haste) = 15% Uptime
4 stacks (+5108 Haste) = 3% Uptime
5 stacks (+6385 Haste) = 0.1% Uptime (seen once in approximately 10 hours of combat)

There seems little point in having it stack to 5 since even reaching 3 requires formidable luck. Perhaps higher iLVL versions perform better?

If you pick one up and decide to use it, try to treat it as a passive +1218 AGI +1000 Haste trinket, and don't keep sweating on the proc stacks. You'll only end up sad.

Kommentar von 57944

Theoretically this trinket is insanely good for classes that favor haste. Practically, however, it's terrible because you'll never get the full stacks from it. Even as a combat rogue with 45% base haste and CDs/bloodlust up, i've never seen more than 4 stacks. In normal circumstances, it never goes beyond 2 stacks.

It might be good at higher ilvls, but the LFR version is just terrible.

Kommentar von SyzEU

The name of the proc is Frenzy.

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