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Kommentar von 6918

Once again the only profession that can make ranged weapons can make a purple for one of what is now four tanking classes... meanwhile nothing in sight for Hunters. Boo-urns. :(

edit: finally something nice for Engineering Hunters too as of b8962 :)

Both guns are now BoE.

Kommentar von 122372

This should at least be BoE so that Blacksmiths who went armor (they thought that they needed that more for tanking) would have been able to at least get the mats for this...although, I think bliz is going to add a lot of early ranged weaps for tanks, because it seems almost unfair to have such a great weapon like this be solely for tanking, yet under engineering.

Kommentar von 201302

A clever tank's first epic item @ 80... Dont miss it =D

Kommentar von 119032

Nestingway, not to be confused with Nesingwary

Kommentar von Yuka2

181 - 337 Damage
(Aww,buffed)

Kommentar von 43530

Yet again, epic warrior TANK gun for engineers. Only this time, it's made more blatantly obvious now that it includes Defense in its stats.I mean... it's a gun made especially for just ONE class, particularly for their one tank spec.

Instead... they could've modified it so that it was a somewhat more DPS-oriented item... but with a significant amount of STM... or better yet, 2-3 sockets to allow for anyone that can use a gun to wield it for whatever purpose. And in that manner, it'd be something Hunter/Rogues/Warriors could use... THREE classes, not ONE class.

I suppose the matter is moot anyway... for the time being it appears to be BoP... so you can't even try to sell it unlike the GBKD.

Also... (assuming the T in Nestingwary is a typo)... Nesingwary's a Hunter no? What kinda hunter wields a blatant tank gun? No wonder the guy has you go around killing all sorts of beasts in STV, Nagrand, and now Northrend. >_>

Kommentar von Ironhawk

Socket this baby with a Solid Dragon's Eye
89 Stamina
21 Defense
18 Hit

/drewl

Kommentar von 201302

FFS. "Binds when picked up"? Now Warrior tanks must clear an End-game instance in wotlk to get a better item instead of that baby?
(Like: Rifle Of The Stoic Guardian > Gyro-Balanced Khorium Destroyer. But Nothing is better than G-B. K. D. until BT)

Kommentar von tobarstep

First off, GBKD is boe and you can have any engineer make it for you and thats the point he is trying to make.

Second, Any warrior who is "serious" about tanking is not always going to choose engineering just to get some googles and a trinket cause essentially that is all your getting, while the googles are good there is plenty of alternatives

I know this isn't the place for this debate, but I'll stop you right there. For tanking, you won't get better than the goggles until the Battleworn Tuskguard. Even t5 is not better than the goggles.

and there is lots of alternatives to that trinket ( See Commendation of Kael'thas from Heroic MGT and the trinkets from Netherwing reputation which have higher stam among other things. Blacksmithing actually offers more for a tank than engineering when you consider Blazefury, Red Havoc Boots, and the fury belt from the SSC pattern.

Blazefury is nice, but for an actual tank weapon it's only on par with King's Defender. And comparing rare drops from a t5 instance to stuff learned at a trainer isn't really a comparison.

A warrior black smith gains the following bennifits: Shield Spikes, Sharpening Stones (important for doing damage),

The other stuff has been addressed, so I'll take these. Anyone can have these benefits. No one uses a shield spike for raiding anyway. Sharpening stones are not bop and can be bought by anyone. As someone else mentioned, the ideal thing is to get a miner alt and then take both professions on your warrior. In TBC, BS isn't that great for tanking to be honest. In Wrath, I dare say you will definitely want both professions.

Kommentar von 128900

Is it just me or have blizzard changed it into bind on equip? If any beta tester would be nice enough to confirm this I'd be a happy tank.

Kommentar von 2420

I hope that isn't the final model.

Kommentar von 43530

Well, they renamed it from Nestingway to Nesingwary... so that confirms it.

Nesignwary is in fact a Huntard. Making a gun with Defense... pft. No wonder he makes YOU take all those big game hunting quests.

All kidding aside, this has become a BoE item, and they've also added another Epic Gun that is in fact itemized for Physical DPS classes. Long-range Cranium Drill.

As a side note, I think that one should be called Nesignwary instead... but anyway, good to see that there's two sets of guns this time rather than restricting engineers to making one gun for only one spec.

Kommentar von 194110

My only comment is this... why does blizzard give the guns with the fastest speed's to tanks? BM Hunter's love fast damage, this and Rifle of the Stoic Gaurdian https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=32325 are the range weapons with the fastest speed...and I know this sin't a coincidence, some sick #$%^er is doing this on purpose...

Well c'mon, think about it for a second hmm? Tanks dont stand there shooting continuosly unlike hunters, they just need to shoot once to pull usually. With slower guns means longer shooting cast time, precious mini seconds that can sometimes cause a moving patrol to aggro any groups nearby because they got too close to them.

With a faster gun those type of situations will happen less. It makes perfect sense to me, I in fact have a warrior tank and have had it happen once or twice.

You didnt really think a tank would stand there shooting again and again did ya? :P

Kommentar von 171630

What is with Blizz's prejudice against triggers?

Kommentar von 176208

Whats up with the model? It looks like a gnomish joke... If I am going to be farming all those materials I want something that looks a little more hardcore.

... a trigger would be nice too.

Kommentar von Gecco

Good to see this tanking gun has a blue socket.
the yellow socket and socket bonus on https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=32756 was often just ignored for the 15 or 18 stamina gems for tanking.
Just always annoyed me :P

Kommentar von 195360

Slap a Solid Majestic Zircon (https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=40119) on this and you've got +78 stam on a GUN.

That's just sick! I'm SO going to get this on my warrior!

Kommentar von 75201

I really hope they change the graphic. The Nesingwary 4000 graphic (the graphic this gun used to have) looks so much better.

Kommentar von 175006

Anyone else thing it looks like a transformer from the front?
There's a face there and everything!

Kommentar von Enemisses

181 - 337 Damage

Continuing on with that line of thought for a moment, if you "translate" this from 1337speak to normal language, you would get "I b leet". Wonder if it's intentional or just coincidence :P

Kommentar von 208142

This gun and the Consortium rep gun from BC have more going on animation-wise than any other weapon ive seen. It actually has 3 barrels, which you can see rotate from the side in order to let them cool off. You can also see the 3 barrels from the front, which Blizzard has made to look like a face, 2 eyes at the top and the firing barrel at the bottom " breathing fire and blowing smoke " as the mouth.

Kommentar von e13e7

since this has a blue socket, you won't have to mis socket, getting 30 stam from the new stam gem -which is again blue- and also a socket bonus of 6 stamina, along with some hit and defense.

Pretty ballin.

Kommentar von PizzaMan

In all of my Wowhead digging, I have discovered that this is currently the _ONLY_ level 80 weapon with defense in the ranged slot thus making it a very coveted item.

Kommentar von 179023

At this time, the https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=39688 is currently bop on live. No response on whether that is a bug or intended.

....it's bind on equip. All guns are if memory serves.

Kommentar von 19259

Just to be on the factually correct side of things, shoot _always_ has 1.5 second cast time (and Throw has 0.5 sec cast) for warriors, regardless of weapon speed (which only determines the cooldown of Shoot).

You can go test it yourself if you want; it also says so right in your spellbook.

So unless you're planning on shooting more than once in a row (at which point you might want to consider class change), ranged weapon speed really doesn't matter.

Kommentar von 113855

The 'gatling' style barrels glows red when you shoot this gun, and it gives off a lot of smoke.

Frikkin awesome.

Far cooler than the Gyro Balanced Khorium Star Trek Laser, in my opinion.

In addition, the three barrels rotate, slotting a new barrel into place and moving the heated barrel out of the firing mechanism every time you fire.

Kommentar von marklartank

With slower guns means longer shooting cast time

this is wrong, as far as tanks are concerned. every gun has the same casting time on the INITIAL shot (1.5s), which is all tanks care about. we certainly don't stand there shooting again, so weapon speed is utterly irrelavant.

thrown weapons have a shorter initial casting time (0.5s) than guns and bows, which is why tanks love them. it would make some real sense for blizzard to make our uber-tank weapon thrown instead of a gun, but they haven't seen fit to do this for us...

Kommentar von xcalibur

Did anyone else happen to notice the only thing missing from this formula of materials is a "Hair Trigger." *cough* Army of Darkness *cough*

Son, I say son. I do believe this is... My boomstick.

Kommentar von 200659

Best Tank gun in the game at the moment. Maybe in an upcoming patch, they will add a new raid and that raid will contain a better tanking gun.

Kommentar von 249835

DUDE its got rifling and everything! it even glows when you shoot it like its really hot BUT...........no trigger

Kommentar von 294219

I recently got the mats for this to be made, replacing Weighted Throwing Axe and I have to say I am glad I did, there is nothing better for a tank to put in that slot currently. The gem slot is nice for an extra 24 stam and all tanks should get this gun as soon as possible as it is the only BoE crafted item I have found that has nothing better than it if only for a stat stick (I pull with heroic throw if it is not on CD).

Kommentar von 215288

That I believe is the intent of the comment above. Of the four tanking classes only one of them has a slot for a ranged weapon. The rest of the classes have what amount to highly specialized trinkets.

In many peoples opinions this is a bit of an imbalance thanks to the inclusion of awesome stats and lack of choice among specialized gear but I won't debate the issue here.

Warriors - Ranged weapon
Paladins - Librams
Druids - Idols
Death Knights - Sigils

You know, I hate to be the bad guy that brings this up, but show me a single Libram, Idol, or Sigil with stam, def, hit, and a blue socket and I will make you a millionaire. For a Druid that doesn't mean crap. For a Paladin, that fine, you have a shield. For a DK this is pathetic. We have no shield and no tank specific two handers (though we do have that nice flat 25 defense rune now), and our sigils barely give us jack crap other than more aggro...

And what do Warriors get? Not only do they have a main hander and a shield (great stats and mitigation from shields, not to mention the only def based meta gem also gives shield stats...), they also have a gun you may or may not ever see that is giving them an extra 42 stamina, an amount of defense that isn't perfect but still not bad, hit, and an extra socket to put whatever nifty gem you could use about now into? Yeah, thats a little nuts....

Kommentar von 333701

Do you guys know of any items in Ulduar that might replace this as best in slot? Do you think its even likely - since tanking weapons are rare ...

Lasltly, would you recommend a tank buying it or waiting for Ulduar before buying?

Kommentar von Darkmanian

For a DK this is pathetic. We have no shield and no tank specific two handers (though we do have that nice flat 25 defense rune now)

I don't see why you would srsly think about tanking with a slow 2h'er in the first place. Given that you probably stacked a lot of dodge and parry, with that new rune you mentioned it could be put to use with 2x 1h'ers and still keep up around 1k dps.

Dual welding Slayer of the Lifeless is one such weapon that might maximize and utilize this.

Kommentar von 226667

I think the scope is really useful for a shotgun =P

Kommentar von 229992

I so wish there was anything even a tenth as good for the Pally Libram slot :(

Kommentar von 239616

As a fury warrior recently turned level 80 I am cosidering this gun for its built in 18 hit rating and ignoring the socket color another 16 hit with the correct yellow gem, i cant remember its name; am I on the right path here for a new hit starved lvl 80?

Here is the gem i was referring to https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=40014

Kommentar von 385727

Can this gun be used by a rogue for pulling?

Kommentar von 359822

Ok it may sound stupid but I have this question..

there's any other tanking ranged weapon available? Or I have to stick with it until the new patch comes?

Nvm; I just found https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/item=45137

:)

Kommentar von 359002

Nice item for a warrior tank.It even has a blue socket

Kommentar von 457324

Gives no armor.

/boggle

Kommentar von 283705

Full list of materials:

10x Titanium bars - 40 Titanium Ore (or Transmute which is 8x Saronite bar, which is 16x Saronite ore.

20x Saronite bars - 40x Saronite ore.

15x Eternal Water - 10x Crystallized Water

15x Eternal Air - 10x Crystallized Air

1x Frozen Orb - 10x Emblem of Heroism and every last boss in a heroic dungeon will drop one.

1x Walnut Stock - Vendor

Kommentar von 492407

now its true enough that the main reason for this gun is for tanks. i am a hunter and i am going to use it at 80. now before you chastise me, i just want to say that this gun is better than the nessingwary (even for hunters) for two reasons. 1) the 42 stamina is good for anyone and 2) its cheaper. happy hunting =D

Kommentar von GoatFooker

Is this still a viable tanking weapon for fresh 80?

Is it useful going into ICC/ToC for... well I guess only Warriors would want this. 42 stamina, blue socket, 6 stamina socket bonus & 21 defense....

Kommentar von 622442

Is it just me, or does this look suspiciously like a bolter from WH40k? A fitting weapon for a warrior.

Kommentar von Quench

For some reason the tip of the gun barrel looks like it was made by dark iron dwarves. It reminds me of a dark iron golem.

Kommentar von Mormolyce

"Jesus God what is that thing?"

-Last words of a man on the wrong end of an Armor Plated Combat Shotgun.

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