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정치의 묘미 완벽한 기회 우리와 함께하거나 드리운 위협 확신에 찬 한 표 아니면 적이 되거나 죽음을 맞이하라 소문은 꼬리를 물고 당선 확실 라일레스의 용사 도움이 되는 친구

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varenne의 댓글

Or Against Us is part of 선한 수라마르인 - Statecraft storyline. More questchain info
Need to have 8000/12000 Honored with 나이트폴른 to start this questline
This questchain is attune for The Arcway and Court of Stars Mythic only dungeons

Here is Or Against Us video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0GLCi-7XiU

So you need 1200 고대 마나 and i think the best farmspot is Twilight Vineyards.
Use 순간이동: 황혼의 포도원 and you can farm 2k mana there in 5-10 mins.
Here is demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nGV1fizZEw

And here is storyline related to this quest:

№ Quest Note Video
73 완벽한 기회 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP_qeZ8tghI
74 아니면 적이 되거나 AP Need 1200 고대 마나 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0GLCi-7XiU
75 죽음을 맞이하라 더럽혀진 더스크미어 문장 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-RMU423Sx4
76 소문은 꼬리를 물고 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nmGfNJ9Wlg
77 우리와 함께하거나 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r1E_bKOcxY
78 드리운 위협 티탄이 벼린 로켓 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsSZGFnWtzg
79 확신에 찬 한 표 마법 깃든 나이트본 동전 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmEXXk5qva8
80 당선 확실 마법 깃든 나이트본 동전 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9w834jKAl0
81 라일레스의 용사 달빛 우상 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipaACK8Vfjk
82 도움이 되는 친구 마법 깃든 나이트본 동전 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcUsDGTd_No
83 비전로: 비전로를 열어라 차원 인식의 고서 The Arcway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy-qf0bmtXo
84 별의 궁정: 참을성 있는 엘프의 분노를 조심하라 고대 퀴라지 우상 Court of Stars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7gyknf33ec
85 비전로: 오랫동안 묻혀 있던 지식 The Arcway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tzGEIfvb6c

№ column is quest approximate order in Suramar storyline

Update for people curious about quest order: Check main post 선한 수라마르인#comments:id=2360457
As you can see you can pick up both Either With Us and Or Against Us at the same time.

Horat의 댓글
알루인 is on the left side of the building (north side), not inside.

paladinty의 댓글
Make sure you're not in a raid group when you pay him...

Feliria의 댓글
God I hate this guy. So greedy. So selfish. 1200 ancient mana, you miserable little elf?

lazaro398의 댓글
If you can't find your way back to Arluin, his location is /way 48.92 73.44

ChrisAKAPiefish의 댓글
I'm fairly sure that 1200 mana is slightly more than exists in the world

eternus의 댓글
Arduin is only asking me for 800 Ancient Mana. Not sure of the difference... does he drive the price up after I pay that first 800?

CzechCloud의 댓글
If you are not a fan of farming ancient mana like me, you can buy a lot of 고대 마나 결정 for about 250g each on EU servers.

Kriipsu의 댓글
I lost track of my quest chain, because when i first talked to him, i didn't have enough mana to pay him... later he didn't show on map anymore.

alpanhell의 댓글
You want to get this quest done (i.e. pay the 1200 mana) before you go and do the other quest you're given at the same time (우리와 함께하거나). The next quest after this (죽음을 맞이하라) is basically in the same area.

Boxofbeer의 댓글
알루인 located at 48.8 73.4 point, between buildings. Now you have to bring him 1200 고대 마나 to be able to turn up the quest.
Also, check if you arent in raid group, otherwise you have to find mana crystalls again.
TomTom:
/way Suramar 48.8 73.4 Arluin

아니면 적이 되거나 — www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ee3PLa85A

stephmar86의 댓글
Do you HAVE to be at 8000/12000 honored for the quest to show up? I just finished the Blood and Wine quest line, but there was no new quest when I returned to Thalyssra in Sahl'Aran. I am only at 5657/12000 Honored with the Nightfallen, so I am wondering if that is why the quest is not available to me. If that is the reason, what, besides world quests, can I do to increase my rep with them?

redcons의 댓글
Azuregale Bay is the place to farm mana hands down. There is that 80% buff that makes it super quick.

Trimor의 댓글
For some reason i cannot speak to Arluin. i've tried disabling all of my addons, abbandoning the quest, reloading my UI, restarting the game and nothing seems to work.

selkie47의 댓글
One of the biggest F you to the players right here. NOT an enjoyable quest and its stuck right in the middle of the suramar questline for flying...

Niecho의 댓글
Azuregale Bay may have used to have been a good place to farm mana, but it's not anymore. Incredibly slow swimming unless you're a druid in travel form. Few nodes here and there. Seems faster to try elsewhere.

Saxbeck의 댓글
In Shadowlands expansion you can just jump your fligth mount ( if you have flying trained ) and follow the mana nodes on map. ( Need to enable "track minerals" on minimap ) and if you go to Azuregale Bay use your underwater mount if you have any like a seahorse f.ex.

At the bottom of the Bay area nodes looks exactly like the surrounding minerals so look carefully and mouse over everything

Metoda의 댓글
UPDATED

the best 고대 마나 farm is in Suramar City

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고대 마나 farm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiwNoyUjSZk&t=1s&ab_channel=METODZIK

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how to complete this quest!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVbiPVl_pMI

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아니면 적이 되거나

알루인과 대화해야 합니다.

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라일레스가 대마법학자의 조언자가 되려면 우리가 그 발판을 만들어 줘야 합니다. 라일레스를 지지하는 세력들이 있긴 하지만 그들의 힘만으로 그녀를 조언자로 만드는 건 불가능한 일이지요. 라일레스와 경쟁하려는 다른 가문들이 있습니다. 그들은 공포와 압박을 마음대로 사용할 줄 압니다. 누구도 그들과 직접 맞서려 하지 않아요. 호의를 베풀거나 입에 발린 약속만으로 그들을 설득할 수는 없을 겁니다. 알루인을 찾아가십시오. 그라면 뭔가 생각이 있을 겁니다.

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다음과 같은 것들을 받습니다:

	마법 깃든 나이트본 동전

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퀘스트 완료 시 보상:

75 나이트폴른 평판

이미 완료했는지 확인하려면 다음과 같이 입력하세요:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(43311))

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