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O boy, now that we got that out of the way, why don't we bash that woman some more as a murderer!
Did you not read the OP? No one died.
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With all due respect you are the one who created this monster. Furthermore dismissing some legitimate points with odd remarks such as "how dare you ask: (as in the last page where this kinda turned to hell) makes your intellectual base lose all meaning.
So, if I don't wish to examine the differences between fetal pigs and fetal humans, everything I have said is meaningless? I'd like you to read the ingredients list of turkish delight to me. If you don't, then abortion should be illegal.
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Not the point. The point was that there isn't a huge difference between animals, you wouldn't be obsurdly offended if someone made a similar statement about a pig fetus and a cow fetus, but you were incredibly offended in the human vs. pig scenario and only rejected the thought but without a legitimate rebuddle(sp).
I don't really care to part take in this actual debate ( as we have had it before), but I do read it, and it is frustruating to see people do things to irrationally dismiss an arguement.
I have YET to understand the arguement. Human fetus vs pig fetus.... and? Will someone please explain it to me?
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MyTie
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I wouldn't call that an 'oddity'. Bacon makes me hungry. My children don't. That isn't odd.
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Ok. I'll give you a hint: they're nearly the same until the traits that separate them develop. I don't care how disgusted you are, because all you ever do is get disgusted at the arguments you don't like so you ignore them.
Also, they're embryos.
The closer you get to a single cell, guess what? Things look more similar! Because there's less
it
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I have YET to understand the arguement. Human fetus vs pig fetus.... and? Will someone please explain it to me?
Ok. I'll give you a hint: they're nearly the same until the traits that separate them develop. I don't care how disgusted you are, because all you ever do is get disgusted at the arguments you don't like so you ignore them.
Also, they're embryos.
Comparing human children to swine. Disgusted? That just because you don't like the arguements. You always just ignore what you don't want to see.
Put yourself in my shoes. Imagine for just a moment you have empathy. Have a bucket handy in case you vomit. Now, compare human children to swine. Pretty rough huh?
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that would make me sick
Generally these are my feelings. I'm a nut for having them, aparantly.
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Ok, let's assume that all embryos are the same until their different features develop. If this is so, all tags are eliminated.
What makes killing an embryo different from killing an embryo?
If that assumption is true then any embryo can grow into any animal.
Guess what? That doesn't happen.
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Most people would probably gag if they saw a baby monkey being butchered. You're programmed to want to protect things with bigger heads/eyes, that look feeble, etc. etc.
Anyways, I'm sure you'd probably gag if you butchered a pig yourself. If you didn't, you're far less empathic than you think (actually, I would say you're not empathic at all).
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If that assumption is true then any embryo can grow into any animal.
Guess what? That doesn't happen.
If you don't know what the embryo is of, then it can grow into any animal. Granted, this is predefined by the embryo's genetic code, but as far as you are concerned it can become any animal.
By eliminating the tags, you don't know what these embryos will become.
How does "as far as I'm concerned" even come into this? You just admitted that they are intrinsically different beings. How my limited perception perceives them in no way affects them.
I could easily determine which is which, just give me 20 minutes in a lab. Essentially your saying if you blindfold someone and make them feel mashes-up spaghetti in one hand and feces in the other, the fact that they can't tell them apart makes them the same in species.
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