Tyrande's Favorite Doll

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Comment by Strafer

*insert dirty joke here*

Comment by Mastrcapn

Very interesting. I can't put my finger on whether it will be a DPS trinket or a Healer trinket.

Both, perhaps?

Comment by lordlundar

I'd say a caster trinket in general, considering it benefits both types equally and doesn't have anything that gives one an advantage over the other in preference.

Comment by Santewi

Probably more like a healer trinket because the 4200 damage isn't that much (considering that you can easily get over 80k hp in full epics), and mana is really important to healers.

Comment by LoreKeeperMobius

wondering how this would work out for retribution paladins and enhancement shamans.

Comment by Wineblood

1 min CD, 4200 mana return max.

4200*5/60 = 350

350mp5 assuming you use it every CD and spend at least 21k mana in that minute.

Comment by ViceVersa

One of the rare tier items in Night Elf Archaeology.
Requires 150 Night Elf Archaeology Fragments.
Keystone: Highborne Scroll

Common tier Night Elf items:
Scandalous Silk Nightgown
Highborne Pyxis
Green Dragon Ring
Inlaid Ivory Comb
Coin from Eldre'Thalas
Cloak Clasp with Antlers
Shattered Glaive
Kaldorei Amphora
Hairpin of Silver and Malachite
Delicate Music Box
Chest of Tiny Glass Animals
Cracked Crystal Vial
Silver Scroll Case
Scepter of Xavius
String of Small Pink Pearls
Umbra Crescent
Necklace with Elune Pendant
Carcanet of the Hundred Magi

Rare tier Night Elf items:
Highborne Soul Mirror
Druid and Priest Statue Set
Queen Azshara's Dressing Gown
Bones of Transformation
Tyrande's Favorite Doll
Kaldorei Wind Chimes
Wisp Amulet

Comment by Happyfisherman

Seems like despite all the battles Tyrande's been part of, she's still a child at heart. Wonder what happens if you show it to her?

Comment by Delterius

I wonder if the spell effect is the same as Starfall. If so, this is a very fun trinket.

Comment by delytron

It's a creepy doll, it always follows you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTSkWnKs9rM

Comment by joshiki

considering it says bind to account, id love to have some low lvl alt with this. just save the stored mana till you get to a boss in some dungeon run. release it and there goes a large portion of its hp. depending on how low, might just be a one shot

Comment by Cryptern

If i saw a melee specced hybrid class take this, i would cry. And so would your healer / caster dps, probably blacklisting you from doing dungeons / raids with them ever ever again.

Comment by DemonicBabys

Arcane Mage + % arcane damage... drool

Comment by RonaldRaygun

You can't "take" it from someone. It's discovered via Archeology.

Thusly, your typical childish "it should go to <class> first!11oneone" is not only unwanted, but also entirely pointless.

Comment by Beefgomoo

Nothing to do with this item, and the video's pretty lame.

Comment by IbFeeshin

Lawyer says: Ok, now show the judge on the doll where the bad man touched you.
Detonate mana deals 4200 arcane damage to Judge.
Judge dies.

Edit- grammers.

Comment by cmilla

thats a lot to read, but overall i think its a healing trinket. that dmg is not a lot. however, it will certainly be more preferable to some caster dps tha others. my elemental shaman cant get below 90% mana while DPSing, so it would be horrible. however, for an arc mage and their mastery, this would be a lot more useful, but still possibly garbage. i guess you can think of it mostly as a caster/healing filler trinket for your new lvl 85s, and probably not much more.

Comment by Maerlim

Why use it as an arcane mage?
1. +321 Intellect. It's the best dps stat.
2. The possibility of restoring mana. It is useful, however 4200 is a bit too low for level 85standards.
3.The damage factor. 4200, maybe more if Arcane Specialization and Mana Adept apply. It can get to 6-7k so yea somewhat useful.
4-The lack of a better trinket to use. After all this one comes from Archeology.

Comment by KaAttaKilla

kill the lawyer instead

Comment by Benegesserit

Also fire since fire goes oom about as fast as arcane does in beta.

Comment by Nukillis

It's a Spiffworld video. How is it lame?

Comment by Lespaul1981

Will be handy during early heroics but I can't see it as a raiding trinket.

Comment by RonaldRaygun

@Elizeya:

The comment I replied to has been deleted. I think you can imagine what it contained, so I wont go into any greater lengths to describe it. In fact, I wont describe it at all.

Comment by Elizeya

@RonaldRaygun
Fair enough mate.

At any rate, I'm definately adding this trinket to my wish list as it were.

Comment by Mozgovod

Looks like this gonna be nice pvp healer trinket in s9 because of its regen and off-gcd-damage on use. Tazik shocker + this + any dps spell = more than 10k instant damage which is roughly about 10% enemy's hp.

Comment by Acanelle

Sure, it's a nice dps trinket, perhaps healer trinket, but wouldn't this be pretty hot for a pally tank?
Kinda like a free (if weak, but even weak is a hell of a lot better than nothing for this) AoE taunt.
Can be pre-charged easily if need be, then for any larger group of mobs, go in and pop it.

Also, it says it damages all mobs within 15 yards. 15 yards is a pretty decent radius, and unless it is limited to the first 3/5 like a lot of mage AoE, or the damage reduces after the first 6 like some healer AoE spells, then it can potentially be significant damage.

All the math on 4200/60 = 350 DPS type stuff is assuming only one target.

I've been running a few of the new dungeons, and out of the first 4 dungeons there's places in I think all of them where there's groups of 10+ little mobs for the tank to grab up... This is perfect for that, and assuming you have a group of 10 and a full charge, and it works as it is worded, that's an extra 0 to the end of the math, and 3.5kdps for free is pretty sweet, even at 85.

Comment by LuckyGhoul

If I ever saw a prot pally using this, I would immediately drop that group, because he would undoubtedly be a fail tank.

All the math on 4200/60 = 350 DPS type stuff is assuming only one target.

More fail.. This was a reference equivalent MP5 by using the trinket On Use every cooldown with a max charge. Reread below:

4200*5/60 = 350

350mp5 assuming you use it every CD and spend at least 21k mana in that minute.

Comment by usaz

you are incredibly stupid

Comment by wolfmoonton

By Maerlim on 11/08/2010 (Patch 4.0.1)
Why use it as an arcane mage?
1. +321 Intellect. It's the best dps stat.
2. The possibility of restoring mana. It is useful, however 4200 is a bit too low for level 85standards.
3.The damage factor. 4200, maybe more if Arcane Specialization and Mana Adept apply. It can get to 6-7k so yea somewhat useful.
4-The lack of a better trinket to use. After all this one comes from Archeology.

try throwing in the shard of woe trinkit from Sinestra in the Bastion of Twighlight which reduces the 4 stacked mana cost of arcane blast from 9751 down 2 6916 as well and a arcane mage might b able to do a very nice burn session

Comment by krisscampbell

Just got this last night before one of our first Raids.
Was slightly confiused initialy, as when i crafted it i got a buff and a debuff that gave me health and mana regen. But turned out to just be somthing that happens when you craft. Similar to the Tailoring crafting buffs.

The regen is helpful but the AoE spell is debatable.

In one case i used it in a 5 man, got low on mana at one chaotic moment and accedently used it breaking a sheep.
But for the most part it is helpful ofc. Using it on Magmaw in 10man. During the spiked phase, especial if there are adds up. Boss takes 8400 dmg, plus every add takes 4200 dmg if you possition yourself correctly. Helped us our a little.

Plus, it doesn't use a GCD, if anyone is wondering

Comment by momhess

I am kind of confused....do you need to have 525 arch to be able to get this? cause have guildies with th raptor mount and not at 525 arch....( wowhead says 525 but idk, plz help :D )

Comment by Bizarre

There do not appear to be any Archeology level requirements for obtaining any of the items available via the profession.

Comment by gb1975ita

LOL if this is a One of the rare tier items in Night Elf Archaeology how do u think u can find in Eastern kingdoms?
TRY KALIMDOR

Comment by Bizarre

I queued this trinket today (the reason I was here reading the comments) at 495 if I remember correctly.

Comment by fishfood2021

You're a lucky bastard. I've been farming for 2 days at 525 haven't seen it yet. Gone through about 50 commons :|

Comment by romerog

Got 101 common nelf artifacts already & 6/7 rare ones. Still can't get this one though. I hope that I'll be able to get one tomorrow...

Comment by Pernell

I believe you need to have a minimum of of 450 Archaeology to have the opportunity to discover this and the other rares requiring 150 fragments.

What I am wondering is if there is a character level requirement to discover this item (and others requiring level 85 to use). I'm currently level 83 and have discovered all of the Night Elf rares except this one and I'd hate to solve a bunch of commons without the possibility of seeing this until I'm level 85.

Comment by chichken88

Farming this crap for like 3 days now, and still cant get it after 50 commons, it is really "rare"....
If it goes like this, I will get some trinket from raids faster than this....

Comment by Focused

Got this today with my Mage and after playing around with it the aoe definitely seems to scale from any one of the many dmg boosting skills of an Arcane mage. On a target with no debuffs, nothing beyond self buffs for myself and a 17% dmg increase at maximum mana from mastery a fully charged trinket would consistently hit for 6350 which is roughly a 51% increase over the 4200 it hits for normally (tested in fire spec to confirm that it did hit for 4200 with full charge).

Haven't tested it to see if its affected by aoe dmg caps but the 3 dummies I consistently struck all took the same damage so its not worded incorrectly and spreads dmg amongst all targets equaling 4200, its just 4200 for everything it hits.

P.S for those wondering I had found all other rare NE artifacts prior to this as well as 67 total NE common artifacts. Cheers.

edit: the buff has no duration so you can stack it before hand and have it ready to go fully charged at the beginning of whatever fight you deem necessary,

Comment by Freezy3

Keep at it, I finally just got mine after 4-5 days of grinding. Best of luck guys!

Common tier Night Elf items:
6 Scandalous Silk Nightgown
11 Highborne Pyxis
9 Green Dragon Ring
6 Inlaid Ivory Comb
7 Coin from Eldre'Thalas
5 Cloak Clasp with Antlers
4 Shattered Glaive
4 Kaldorei Amphora
4 Hairpin of Silver and Malachite
7 Delicate Music Box
5 Chest of Tiny Glass Animals
7 Cracked Crystal Vial
3 Silver Scroll Case
7 Scepter of Xavius
6 String of Small Pink Pearls
8 Umbra Crescent
5 Necklace with Elune Pendant
4 Carcanet of the Hundred Magi

Total 108

Comment by danielshawn

This was my 102nd NE artifact acquired, several days after making 525. I had previously acquired 95 common and 6 rare NE artifacts.

Comment by Coryenne

Yet another reason I'm glad the paladin population has gone down since the new talent rehaul.

Comment by yankhor

this is not pally's

it's a hunter trinket.

Comment by uriahworld

Small clip of using trinket: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmVY2HXRgUg

Comment by deadcrusader

According to Wowpedia you only need 150 to make this one

Comment by Rwalters

I collected every night elf rare before getting this one last. Good news is there plenty of night elf dig sites.

Comment by Teuu

Got it after 79 Common's and 6/7 Rare... and ofc, Archaeology on 525 ^^

Teu, Kazzak

Comment by Jubermag

Even if 150 skill is minimum required, its impossible to get it at 150.

The amounts of picks and other solves you have to do before it comes avaliable isnt physically possible.

18 commons x 5 skill : 90
7 rares before you get it: 35 skill
+ 100 skill to gather before things turns gray. Atleast 225 skill. If that's even possible.

I have every rare and epic the profession Archeology can give a player, and I have never, ever recived a lv 85 epic before every other rares had been found in in their respective fragment type.

I have made 85 commons and still going. The chance to get it seems extremely small.

Comment by bubroid

Any special locations to dig? Or you have just to complete everything you have until it arrives?

UPD: got it. 9 rares, 6 of em are NE, 160 common total. Been digging in Kalimdor only since skill 1.

Comment by KingTaft

thats assuming that the shard of woe multiplies its effects, its possible that it will reduce every arcane blast by only 400

Comment by catalystical

I linked it on guild chat when I found it and my guildie prompty said:

Tyrande's Wall of Text

Comment by chichken88

Just made the 102nd common artifact, after completing 6/7 rares, and still no trinket, yes I have 525 skill...
I'm really thinking on to delete this profession, cuz it's getting really annoying. My guildmate got the trinket after the 5th common on 525 skill with 6/7 rares, so thx blizzard for making a joke profession....

Comment by tritium4ever

The damage from the use effect is affected by the shadow priest's Shadow Power passive. Crits for up to 10500!

Comment by Zeppelin535

I just finished completing this trinket on my Resto Druid, 525 Archaeology and my 91st NE project total. Anyways, I noticed that it applies a buff called "Recaptured Mana" which also says in its subtext " x mana recaptured. ", I am curious as to if anyone knows of a simple addon to track the amount of mana stored. With these raid encounters, spending 21k mana in a minute's time probably is bound to happen 99% of the time but it would still be nice to be able to track it.

Edit: An interesting discovery I have made while testing this trinket is that spells cast while under effects such as "Omen of Clarity" as a Resto Druid that should supposedly cost no mana still contribute to the "Recaptured Mana".

Edit#2: The 4200 max AOE damage also appears to be able to crit, it did so for 8400 when I managed to do so, I am unsure if the crit chance is based on your own or something else.

Comment by Fevy

I got it yesterday, was the only Night Elf rare that i did not have.
Took me very long ot get it, was only farming Night Elves digsites and Uldum Digsites. but finally gut it.

Ye, 150 fragments, and room for 3 of the scrolls.

Comment by Amantheil

If you really want this trinket you should probably go to Kalimdor, not EK. You'll have a much higher chance of night elf dig sites spawning there (I think there's only one in EK in Duskwood). It's still completely random, but at least you'll get more night elf fragments in Kalimdor and if you are going to get lucky you'll get lucky sooner.

Comment by Scoobie

Update:

I just got this now and did

Total artifacts
Dwarf: 9
Draenei: 2
Fossil: 50
Night Elf: 168
Nerubian: 1
Orc: 1
Tol'vir: 15
Troll: 34
Vrykul: 2

and
Common tier Night Elf items:
6 Scandalous Silk Nightgown
9 Highborne Pyxis
10 Green Dragon Ring
7 Inlaid Ivory Comb
13 Coin from Eldre'Thalas
10 Cloak Clasp with Antlers
7 Shattered Glaive
3 Kaldorei Amphora
20 Hairpin of Silver and Malachite
13 Delicate Music Box
9 Chest of Tiny Glass Animals
8 Cracked Crystal Vial
9 Silver Scroll Case
8 Scepter of Xavius
8 String of Small Pink Pearls
5 Umbra Crescent
8 Necklace with Elune Pendant
8 Carcanet of the Hundred Magi

I'd advice anyone to stick to doing this as yes it does take a while ( some times ) but well worth doing :)

" History "
This is a simple night elven doll. The hands and feet are made of porcelain, painted with flaking purple. The garments are fine but fraying. The doll's long tresses are the most remarkable and could possibly be real night elf hair.

Comment by Jackpdl

I got it now...

Total Artifacts:
dwarf = 2
Fossil = 30
NE = 115 (7/7 rares)
Tol'vir = 7
Troll = 18

Comment by Al3sinth

Still farming for this..

Have the other 6 NE rare artifacts.

12 Scandalous Silk Nightgown
8 Highborne Pyxis
13 Green Dragon Ring
5 Inlaid Ivory Comb
8 Coin from Eldre'Thalas
10 Cloak Clasp with Antlers
7 Shattered Glaive
12 Kaldorei Amphora
7 Hairpin of Silver and Malachite
12 Delicate Music Box
7 Chest of Tiny Glass Animals
6 Cracked Crystal Vial
10 Silver Scroll Case
9 Scepter of Xavius
7 String of Small Pink Pearls
13 Umbra Crescent
5 Necklace with Elune Pendant
4 Carcanet of the Hundred Magi

155 Total

Comment by Pajamaz13

Don't give up!
After 109 projects i was about to give up.
Just got enough fragments to finish yet ANOTHER nightgown.
I completed it and BAM it showed up in the solve box. I was so happy i almost screamed.
In the end I'm kind of glad it took so long to make. It really feels special and the thrill i got while solving it was awesome.
Keep at it! It's an awesome trinket.

Comment by golimar

I had started out in Eastern Kingdoms but around 225 I switched to Kalimdor to pursue this trinket. I got up to around 405 and stockpiled 2097 shards (adding 12 per scroll to this number), then got tired, finished getting to 450 in Eastern Kingdoms, and then used them all.

Total of 64 nightelf commons. Got 6/7 nightelf rares before unlocking this trinket. 3136 fragments total.

- 1
- 2
- 4
- 4
- 4
- 5
- 2
- 5
- 4
- 1
- 2
- 2
- 4
- 3
- 6
- 6
- 3
- 6
- 1
- 1
- 1
- 1
- 1
- 1
- 1

Comment by golimar

Comment by Deathfury

My 191st night elf arch project, was beginning to lose my mind grinding it.

Comment by finnito985

This archeology proffesion while its meant as a time sink , it can be all about luck. I lvled it to 525 just in eastern kingdoms, hoping to get the staff from the dwarfs, after 6 common night elf artifacts i get the project to get this trinket.... pure luck.

Comment by Quazier

Took me 158 common night elf projects completed and all other rares before I got this one.
Given I had solved a bunch of night elf projects before hitting 525 or whatever skill this may require, look forward to a long and annoying grind.

Comment by Gweryan

I'm currently on 133 Nelf projects (incuding rares)
It's starting to get annoying!
..Would be easier just to steal her current doll.
Update: On 162 artifacts. Still no doll.

Comment by locrian21

this one can be quite a grind. im up to 241 commons and i still haven't gotten it :( its very demoralizing. had i know what a long grind it would be i would have never started it. im in a bit too deep now to quit though

Comment by romique

112 common nelf artifacts and 6/7 rare, still no trinket. I'll update the post when it finally procs for me.

Comment by Benecek

Farming this trinket is a pain in the a** already got like 100+ NE commons and still nothing. Wouldn't mind to grind it but most digsites i get are fossils >.<. That's what we get when people with severe brain disorders are hired as blizzard developers :/

Comment by KingTaft

is there a certain archeology level you need to get to have a chance of creating this?
from what i'm seeing it may be 450 or possible 525?

Comment by Kalila

This is my next project! I had been farming it for days, doing housework during flight paths, and finally got tired of Kalimdor.. so I headed to Northrend to finish my last scepter for the achievement. Before I could get a few more nerubian sites, I got a night elf sight and solved my 105th common.. and voila! I am overjoyed. Here's what I made:

6 Scandalous Silk Nightgown
8 Highborne Pyxis
5 Green Dragon Ring
2 Inlaid Ivory Comb
5 Coin from Eldre'Thalas
5 Cloak Clasp with Antlers
6 Shattered Glaive
8 Kaldorei Amphora
4 Hairpin of Silver and Malachite
1 Delicate Music Box
8 Chest of Tiny Glass Animals
5 Cracked Crystal Vial
7 Silver Scroll Case
10 Scepter of Xavius
6 String of Small Pink Pearls
6 Umbra Crescent
9 Necklace with Elune Pendant
3 Carcanet of the Hundred Magi

Comment by Seahawks

It finally queued on my 63rd NE artifact. 525 skill, all other rares completed at the time. Didn't solve in groups, just solved as I got the fragments required for each item.

Comment by sietelle

and here I thought the doll's icon would be a mini Malfurion...

Comment by Prada

As a Holy Paladin, this is my favourite doll, too.

Comment by Rohendar

140 crafts into nightelf... no doll. Will update if I ever get it.

Comment by mungbean

Just got my proc, havn't completed the item yet.
74 NE commons
Collecting took years, so so so many fossils saved

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/mungbean/trinket-1.jpg

Comment by Espada

156 common NE done, 6/7 rares, still no doll

Comment by netsach

Erm .... "4200/60 = 350 DPS"..... OMG.
I think it's 70dps per target ^^

Comment by Pernell

You're not being forced to do the grind now are you?

Comment by Ner1

I'm on my 87'th night elf project, (with 525 skill) and still no sign of the doll.

Comment by Luojani

Got it today after a few days of farming.
Archaeology skill: 525
Common Night Elf artifacts solved: 45
Rare Night Elf artifacts solved: 6

I had previously achieved Tragedy in Three Acts, but although related to Night Elf artifacts, I don't know if it has anything to do with getting the trinket. Just thought I might add this fact.
My character level is 85.

Comment by putrefied

got mine after 192 nelf artifacts.

Comment by Testosterone

Queued after 95 NElf solves, took 4 days from 1-525 and getting the trinket grinding in kalimdor, used all keystones.

Comment by Azneron

I have every rare and epic the profession Archeology can give a player, and I have never, ever recived a lv 85 epic before every other rares had been found in in their respective fragment type.

This wasn't the case for me. Actually the Ring of the Boy Emperor was my very first Tol'Vir Project (yes even before any common, couldn't believe my dumb luck), and I completed Thaurissans Staff still missing the Innkeepers Daughter. I do however have 6/7 NElf rares and have been grinding an eternity for the Doll.
I would be inclined to say the Doll is something special, but it seems to be just bad luck in this case, as other People had the Doll very fast.

Comment by rard26

205 night elf solves and still no trinket... I might die of boredom before I get it.

Comment by swirlyeyes

I heard the best way to farm archaeology rares was to solve nothing until you hit 450, saving everything you had, and then releasing all your solves at once.

Comment by Alatar1313

210th night elf solve but I finally have it. Anyone reading this that thinks this trinket might be worth trying to get, don't. It's seriously not worth your time.

Comment by dwydco

just had a 14H non stop farm session and nothing...

it's like crazy, spent 10K on scrolls, and only crap... 2 old friends got it at 480 and 525 after 5 common... wtf with droprate...

Comment by magnnu

ive just completed my 200 common artifact, 6/7 rares, i lvled 0-525 on nightelf.... kinda a joke now, when ppl who arent evan lookin for it get it, or after so few artifacts.....

Comment by Rohendar

My previous post got downrated, but here's the update anyway:

It took me 165 commons while being at 6/7 rares for it to show up.

Comment by monster1617

After 132 Common its here :)
Rare 6/7 ( now: 7/7 )

Comment by Yetyet

Based on what people have said it appears to be a 1% chance to appear.
Same as the other Rare epic level 85 items.

243 Ne, About to go insane.

Comment by Fowm

I just queued this trinket at level 85, with 507 archaeology. So it does appear that you can get this at less than 525.

Comment by LeminaAusa

Tyrande must have had an extremely violent childhood to have an exploding doll.

Comment by QuickBASIC

I hate posts that say "I got this trinket!", but this is informative and helpful to understanding how likely it is to get this trinket. I just think some people have a hard time telling the difference between this and the former.

Comment by QuickBASIC

Comment by swirlyeyes

I've just gotten my own Tyrande's and I am pleased to see that there's a helpful buff icon that shows you how much mana, exactly, has been recaptured.

The buff appears the moment you cast something, the duration is infinite, disappears the moment you use the trinket or die, and comes back again when you spend mana.

Comment by ieatchocolate

Made an account just to contribute this:
Been spending the past 5 days purely doing nelf artifacts, still have yet to get this trinket. In a content patch's time it's going to be obsolete. Unless you have a lot of time on your hands, I strongly recommend not farming this.

EDIT: 107 artifacts..

Comment by Sinful1

Just got mine after 157 NE commons and leveling the profession in eastern kingdoms, Qeued after I was ready to give up, not worth the grind if you dont have alts to send the trinket to. However, if you're 50+ completed into the grind for it, stick with it, its random and annoying, you might get lucky at get it at 60 or wait untill 240 but its generally worth the grind to send to multi-chars and current end-game use.

Comment by Migari

I recieved this trinket today. I don´t have much info about it yet but I will add more once I try it some more. So far however:

- The DMG portion can crit for 100% more damage.
- The DMG portion benefits from + DMG buffs such as Avenging Wrath.
- You get the mana from every spell with a mana cost, even if there is a proc that removes the manacost. (Such as the Art of War for Retribution.)

Feel free to tell me if there is anything else - All this was tested with Ret cause I don´t have Holy gear yet.

Edit: Just specced Holy to try this out and currently appears to be bugged. I don´t get any mana stored after using Holy Shock.

Edit2: Beacon of Light also stores mana, even with the glyph that reduces the cost by 100%.

Comment by imblackirl

kill yourself

Comment by Thndrnltning

Alright it is worth mentioning that this is an unusually rare artifact to proc in your archeology book. This particular one seems to be extremely difficult to attain. First off let me state I completed the Seven scepters, kings under the mountain, blue streak, the harder they fall, what was once yours is now mine, diggerest, diggerer and digger.
All of this just for one trinket to proc. No luck yet but perhapsHere let me share with you what i have completed:

All six of the other rare Night Elf projects!Total 179 no trinnket yet. Count the days lost doing other things as well.

173 night Elf common projects to involve:
-necklace with alune pendant x 11
-cloak clap with antlers x 7
-shattered glaive x 7
-inlaid ivory comb x 11
-coin from eldre 'thalas x 10
-highborne pyxis- x 9
-hairpin of silver and malachite x13
-scepter of xavius x 10
-cracked crystal vile x 9
-kaldorei amphora x9
-green dragon ring x 9
-scandalous silk gown x 10
-chest of tiny glass animals x 11
-string of small pink pearls x 10
-delicate music box x 7
-silver scroll case x 7
-umbra crescent x 12
-carcanet of the hundred magi x 11

Comment by shpongle

I got this after 36 NE solves, and that includes the stuff I used to level up from 100. I guess I got lucky with this one... GL!

Comment by Gwaith

Got mine today after 35 solved nightelf artifacts. So cheer up all my fellow archaeologists out there, you can in fact get this thing early if you are lucky enough.
I saved around 300 nightelf parts + 6 scrolls to level 450 and used them then. But I only got the Doll quite a few parts and rolls later.

I had 525 archaeology and these artifacts solved:

Bones of transformation 1
Kaldorei Wind Chimes 1
Wisp Amulet 1
Highborne Soul Mirror 1
Druid and Priest set Statue 1

Green Dragon Ring 2
Highborne Pyxis 4
Scandalous Silk Nightgown 1
Cloak Clasp with Antlers 1
Inlaid Ivory Comb 1
Necklace with Elune Pendant 2
Coin from Eldre'Thalas 2
Shattered Glaive 2
Hairpin of Silver and Malachite 1
Kaldorei Amphora 2
Delicate Music Box 1
String of small Pink Pearls 1
Cracked Crystal Vial 1
Scepter of Xavius 1
Chest of Tiny Glass Animals 2
Silver Scroll Case 2
Umbra Crescent 1
Carcanet of the Hundred Magi 2

Comment by Psycobean

"Show me on this trinket where the Burning Legion touched you."

Comment by Aldurr

Every time I hit "Solve", there's small bit of excitement followed by the continuous let down.

and WTB the removal of the Fossil Dig Sites.

EDIT: Got the Trinket the next solve after I posted this. The Wowhead Gods heard my prayer! haha

Comment by jcrhea

I am now at NE 254 commons and still counting. Approaching the highest in the thread. No clue my luck was this bad. Will update when I get it, or get to 300, which is where I am stopping.. period.

UPDATE - Proc'd at 275 total NE solves (269 commons + 6 rares) Yeah!

Comment by Gradywhite

The damage that it can deal is capped around 35,000. I tried it today in Tol Barad, running into a large group of enemy players and popping it, splitting the damage between ~18 targets, and only dealing 33,000-34,000 depending on absorbs/resistances, so my guess would be that it caps at 35,000. Also, it should be noted that the Mana Detonation *can* crit, and is affected by damage modifiers such as Shadow Form's 15% increase to damage.

It might be useful to bind this trinket to all your abilities as a healer during raids, and just use the trinket 30-45 seconds before the fight begins so it is off of its cooldown by the time you've actually used 4200 mana. The only problem I see with this is the possibility of aggroing adds and such if it comes off cooldown at just the wrong time.

Comment by wowanthonywow

I have never struck any luck in any of my grinding endeavors. I'm only at 114 and Elune is working against my belf blood already so I seek the luck of a wowhead post.

Comment by clnauto

We apologize because some say 21k mana ay just says 4200 orders per minute does not make sense, if someone could explain me thanks. Greetings =)

Comment by Kneels

I leveled Archeology simply for this trinket. After alot of farming today I finally I got to see THIS.
As you can see my 250th Night Elf solve will be the trinket.

Good luck maets!

Comment by Medli

For those interested, I did some simple calculations and estimations based off people's comments. Assuming that people who do not get the artifact quickly are more prone to post here, this seems to be leaning towards a 1% drop rate provided you have the required 450+, but anywhere from .5-1.5% is reasonable. There's really no way to tell whether having 6/7 actually reduces this rate or just prevents you from having to solve more 150 fragment items. So ignoring the other rares, a 1% rate would provide the following:

Less than 50 tries: 40%
Less than 100 tries: 63%
Less than 200 tries: 87%
Less than 300 tries: 95%

Keep in mind that past completions (other than getting the other rares out of the way) will never have an effect on future attempts, so even if you've completed 300 projects you're still sitting at a 1% rate on your next artifact.

Comment by Emala

Got it today, took 6/7 rares and about 25 commons for me

Comment by allblack

137 night elf done 'till now. Posing for good luck!

Comment by Japes

Just hit the 200 solves mark with no luck - bright side is that the Tol'vir Hiero's are selling for around 900g each and I seem to have plenty of luck with them.

Comment by Mooji

<---at 190 crafts, no trinket yet :(

Comment by Ebimumecha

<-- 294 NE crafts, no trinket.

Comment by magnnu

just past 260 commom with 6/7 rares, still no luck,

Comment by Marluk

I know that this is hard to find, but as my character is still leveling toward 85, can anyone confirm that this requires both 450+ skill AND level 85 to find? I have been 525 skill since level 75. I'm wondering if I should just save all my fragments I find until 85 and then use them at level 85.

If it is not possible to find an 85 BOA before level 85, it would be wasteful to use the fragments until then.

Comment by ieatchocolate

135 NE commons and it finally queued for me... thank god.

Not sure if it helps, but I did about 20 artifacts per day, and today after two commons, it queued. Maybe there's more of a chance if you do less per day? I dunno. I just know I hate RNG both as a shadow priest and an archaeologist.

Comment by aggression

122 total Nelf solves to get this one, if you wanna know droprate that is. All nelf solved after 450.

Comment by henhouse

Isn't it a little funny that Tyrande's favorite doll, is a doll of herself?

O_o

Comment by Sagoz

Yeah im lvl 525 i have 6/7 Rares 171 Comman Artifacts and still no trinket so this is my lame attempt tp pray to the WoW gods.. Been Farming Forever and cant wait to finish the grinding..

Comment by Surtic

My advice for anyone attempting to get this trinket and is also just starting out on archaeology is to stay in Kalimdor untill you have about 2000 nightelf fragments total, then move to eastern kingdoms and level your archaeology in eastern kingdoms to 450.

This whole process took me about 4 days of 8 hour grinds and in the end I had 2261 nightelf fragments and 56 highborne scrolls. During my solving spree, I had gotten all 6 rares by the time I was down to about 1000 fragments, and got the doll shortly after. I was left with 531 fragments and 0 scrolls, so it went through a total of 1730 fragments and 56 scrolls before getting the doll and all the other rares from nightelf archaeology.

Hope this information helps for anyone grinding specifically for this trinket, gl.

Comment by Romelus

205 NE now going mental soon

Comment by mdh702

125 common's before mine.

Comment by Lavielle

I just got this tonight! :D This is what I suggested to a few of my friends and it seemed to work well for me.
- Stayed in Kalimdor the entire time.
- Always went to the closest site until all were located on the opposite side of Kalimdor for me (so either all north or all south). Used my hearth for these points.
- Always solved ASAP. I didn't save scrolls either, as they all went towards an end goal and by the end I still had a few left over.

I basically leveled nearly all the way from 1-525 in Kalimdor, although I did make a little journey to Outlands to just see how it was there. It wasn't too bad. I ended up getting all the rares and the trinket was the last one and usually there were 5-8 commons in between each rare. It was also nice picking up some Uldum digsites in the process, as I hope to get the staff eventually.

Comment by Revenga

4200 mana per minute equal 963 spirit for 20sec per minute. So this trinket is just like Core of Ripeness except 1 minute cooldown and damage effect on it. So this trinket is good choice if you dont wanna spend valor points for Core of Ripeness.

Comment by jman5411

If you're desperate for a drop rate like I am, I did some quick math on the info posted within these comments. Here's a data set of solves until doll queue'd:

165
157
34
79
109
80
116
111
65
159

This averages to be 107.5 solves until . But built into these numbers are a handful of solves (prior to 450) that cannot queue up the doll. Since blizz probably put an even number on the drop rate, let's say it's 1 out of (100 minus the average number of solves prior to 450 which would be about 20-30.

I estimate the probability of Tyrande's doll queue'ing to be 1/75 per solve.

Comment by Mizh00

Amazing trinket, the 321 int is beautiful and the on use is pretty nice at times and gives me around 7~ more fireballs. Specifically I've made good use out of it during magmaw add phases, & omnitron when gas/arcane are out. It also benefits from ebon plague I think. Not sure about others.

Took me 131 solves after 450.

Comment by Ebimumecha

I estimate my NE solves to be exactly 353 atm, and still dont have the trinket.

Comment by Baeki

Just got the trinket, 162 artifacts solved. One problem tho, I'm a holy paladin and I dont get any recaptured mana by Holy Shock :S

Comment by Sciamano

Just had this show up and I've done 66 Night Elf solves.

Comment by culo

even if the wowhead gods answer my prayer and i get it the next solve, this is absolutely not worth the grind, and i have 3 healing characters at 85 on this account.

at 187 ne solves and counting. the depression generated after every failed roll and the trudge of having to dig up literally thousands of useless fossil fragments is beyond comparison. it's basically a rage-fueled vendetta to get it at this point.

everything in wow has become completely un-fun trying to get this trinket.

Comment by SolaceForsaken

Got this my 78th nelf solve.

Comment by neversurrender

the depression generated after every failed roll and the trudge of having to dig up literally thousands of useless fossil fragments is beyond comparison. it's basically a rage-fueled vendetta to get it at this point.

everything in wow has become completely un-fun trying to get this trinket.

i understand the depression that you are going through and you are correct, but it will help you a lot more if you just forget that you are hunting this trinket -- try to put on some music, its very important that you free your mind off the pain of digging, watch some youtube while you fly back and forth for digsites.

Don't forget that during the process you can make a lot of gold with selling tolvir hieroglyphic at AH, so thats a plus side to it. Also dont forget to take breaks, dont just stay 8hrs a day in front of the screen trying to get this trinket, it will only become more painful. Good luck

Comment by Maggibesti

60 Solves, 6/7 rares, and I yet have to discover this lovely trinket.

Comment by Rigaldo

Got this trinket at my 60th solve. Ive never left Kalimdor until i made the trinket. Before making it i did about 10 solves and Bones of Transformation proced. After approximately 10 solves the trinket proced for me. I was always stacking fragments before doing solves. 200+ each time.

Comment by HasuEI

Found out about this trinket and began grinding Archaeology specifically with this in mind. I strictly leveled in Kalimdor hoping to get lucky. Sadly and predictably enough I maxed out the skill before I could get it to pop. Specifically soon after I got the achiev for 50 common artifacts 'Diggerer', and receiving this item gave me the achiev for my tenth rare artifact. I had a lot of luck with the other Night Elf rares, this one being my last NE rare to pop. Just to give people an idea about the grind. Hope this is helpful. Good luck!

Comment by wuhaoqq88

GOD.plz. i have combin 300+

plz give me~~~~~~~I wish i will i can i would i should plz

tyvm

Comment by Revenga

This trinket is bugging somehow. When i cast holy shock, it doesnt gather any mana. Any other spell works but not holy shock for some reason.

Also when i cast beacon of light (it's mana free with glyph) It gathers mana from it. So i can just spam mana free beacon and trinket gathers up free mana.

Comment by shad20020

I've got it today afther 102 solve of NE ...

The way i got it ...I have queue the ring of tolvir ...so i have not solve anything till i solved the ring ...When i have got enough Tolvir fragment for the ring ...i haved stack about 600 fragment of NE plus 12 scroll ...

So i solved the ring and started solving my NE fragment and then i got the doll with 230 frag Ne still

http://img98.imageshack.us/i/2solvein2min.png/

Comment by Bryndabad

I'm @ 170 commons with 6/7 rares, my patience is starting to wear thin but I will get it dam you blizzard ;o)

That being said it is also a means to an end to try and get my Vile of the Sands from Tol'vir sites an the jars, fingers crossed!

Comment by TheFrozenOrb

It appeared for me when i had solved 192 common Night Elf artifacts. I was also at 6/7 rares. This took quite a while to get but stick at it and you'll get there.

Comment by cptnmurray

Found and solved my Tyrande's Favorite Doll just few minutes ago. Got mine after 3 weeks of casual to semi-intense farming.

Total artifacts

Dwarf: 29
Draenei: 16
Fossil: 59
Night Elf: 337
Nerubian: 3
Orc: 19
Tol'vir: 56
Troll: 90
Vrykul: 13

ps. Total Crafted rares: 21 (yes I got my Professor before Tyrande's Doll)

Comment by archilles

I am at 117 Common NE solves and I shudder to think that it might have to be 337...

IMO this is a really fail idea by Blizz, unless their intention is to piss us off... Having to farm mindlessly for this item at the expense of having actual fun is really draining the life away from the game... They need to tweak the drop rate such that people who put in a decent amount of time get it without actually quitting the game before that...

Edited: 1 hour after I posted this, I unlocked the trinket... =) Wowhead gods are really out there! Happy as I am, I do not recommend anyone try this unless they are really bored and don't mind hours of disappointment. Awesome trinket though, and its going to last me a long time! Total of 140 completes!

Comment by ivonnely

I spent 3-4 hours a day for the past few days and am at 177 solved with no sight of trinket yet... and DAMN to that 337... I would definitely given up by that point. Good job.

Update: Got it to proc at 206 solved. THANK YOU WOWHEAD.

Comment by krofius

Just got this trinket at 170 solved NE's (including rares) Damn what a $%^&ing feeling it was. I feel sorry for those of you having done over 200 and still doesn't have it :( And weirdly I got Ring of the Boy Emperor as my 2nd Tol'Vir project as well, so I'm pretty happy at the moment.

Comment by lolligator

They are just butthurt.

Comment by zienuruko

Ok, after over a week of intense digging all the while checking this forum for updates and stories of this elusive trinket in hopes that this would keep me motivated to stay on the hunt have realized that Archaeology is a very dark rabbit hole where people are contemplating getting a box of kittens and a hammer in hopes that the RNG Gods deserve blood! At 200 solves now I can't just give up as messed up as this drop rate and profession is I plan on cutting back but still keeping my ears and eyes open in hopes for this to pop.. This is my post to pray that these WoW gods are listening and for others that want this as bad as me to not give up!

Update: It's been 5 days and at 230 NE commons and still no trinket as of yet..

Comment by flexe

Using Druid shapeshift's will NOT add mana onto the buff this trinket gives.

Comment by Sabreil

171 Commons 6/7 Rares and nothing yet. Posting for drop rate compilation and good luck!

Comment by Luminaire4192

I myself am currently at 180, and seeing that 337 makes me frown because I know that'll end up being me. My last sign of hope is for the wowhead gods to grant me this trinket soon!

-edit-

245 , and still no trinket. Will update if I ever receive it.

-edit-

Finally received it as my 271th artifact. A little extra information to anyone who may find it useful.

I stayed in Kalimdor the entire time, never surveying anywhere else. I did receive every other nightelf rare first and I found buying highborne scrolls on the auction house a great deal of help if you can afford them.

Total Artifacts:
Dwarf: 7 (I have a rare queued and am at 115.)
Fossil: 73
Night Elf: 270
Tol'vir: 39
Troll: 33

Comment by Aliena

Mine finally popped today. Exactly 250 completed night elf artifacts.

Complete breakdown:
Dwarf: 14
Draenei: 9
Fossil: 17
Night Elf: 250
Nerubian: 1
Orc: 6
Tol'vir: 30
Troll: 42
Vrykul: 8

Comment by arwald

212 Night Elf commons and counting... not really sure if the trinket is worth the trouble, but since I've gone this far, might as well keep going.

Update: 291 Commons was the charm for me. The trinket finally popped up. Best of luck for you all and don't give up!

Comment by spiderpally

grrr i'm at 265 combos (6/7 rares) and i am slowly becoming insane. i swear if i see Chest of Tiny Glass Animals pop up one more time i'll explode.

Comment by sriggins

Just found this on my 98th solve. I have 6/7 rares

Comment by Goatboi4

260 so far... prolly bought at least 60-70 highborne scrolls at 85-125g each... Getting to the point where I just want to quit, but far too stubborn haha.

Too many freaking fossil sites... theres like... 13 in kalimdor alone.

Comment by Hydroseeds

Just popped for me after 139 NE solves. Been following along here at wowhead throughout my grind. Best of luck to you all, especially those in the huge number of solves!

Comment by looney89

196 nightelf commons total 6/7 rares! well worth the hunt :)

http://www.pictureupload.de/originals/pictures/050111225419_doll.jpg

Comment by Poobler

I came here to see if this is really a viable trinket since the AoE is questionable, only to see that I must be hyper lucky.

http://i54.tinypic.com/wt65tv.jpg

If only I could be this lucky with the Tol'vir mount. :(

Comment by zonker40

It took me 102 finished night elf commons to get the trinket queued.

Comment by zonker40

I'm pretty sure it's a mummified middle finger...

Comment by RyokoYaksa

Show me where on the Tyrande's Favorite Doll did this bad profession touch you?

Comment by Wendigoo

HAHA, fantastic

Comment by Skullblaka

completed last NE rare (except the trinket ofc) like 5 days ago...i did more or less 30-40 common every day to date... nothing yet but how do I know how many artifacts I have done?

Comment by Choeb

Total artifacts
Dwarf: 3
Draenei: 2
Fossil: 35
Night Elf: 161
Nerubian: 1
Orc: 1
Tol'vir: 14
Troll: 15
Vrykul: 1

Still no doll, I will edit this post if I ever get it. On a sidenote, I don't think I've ever been so prepared for raids watching kill video's while doing archeology...

Comment by Wuxel

Over 500 solved and still no trinket ~

Comment by kbglolz

Total artifacts
Nain: 1
Fossile: 33
Elfe de la nuit: 177
Tol'vir: 15
Troll: 22

Finally popped ... Don't give up all, keep hope all :D

Comment by sh0gun

finally got the doll after 184 artifacts, 9 rares and at 525 skill.

Comment by Adora01

Please Wowhead and RNG gods grant me this one request I love you more if I get this :)

300NE commoms

http://oi52.tinypic.com/244r4lk.jpg

UPDATE 1/09/11-12:57pm est
I figure I do a little more,at 300 this should be a give me all the time and work and end results may be for nothing
I cant take to many more let downs.

Watch me break the record here :(

Comment by jegorah

Comment by Dustyboots

Got this on my 95th combine, which shocked me when I saw it. It was also my 19th rare. Before you shake a fist, keep in mind that I'm *still* trying to get the dwarf staff, which is my heart's desire ;)

Comment by Haleakala

Some of us are still around, healing you better than ever. Now if only I could have this purty doll. =)

Comment by duffy201

I´m currently on 174 solved Night Elf artifacts >_< still keeping strong but i do die inside me everytime someone in the guild gets the trinket on their 30-50 solve

Will repost if i get it soon >_<

Comment by Ixia

So far I've solved 69 common Night Elf artifacts, and 6/7 rares. I know it is nothing compared to my fellow posters with 200+ completed artifacts, but I'm slowly being drained after seeing "Necklace with Elune Pendant" appear back-to-back, and 3 fossil dig sites up at once.

I beseech you, Wowhead Gods. Watch over me as I continue to dig up more crummy jewelry and tokens of love. The GM's have forsaken me, as I'm still waiting for them to respond to a ticket after waiting a week -.-.

Comment by Jlovez

I'm at 296 night elf solves. I'm about to hit the big 300, maybe I will get it within the next 50 solves.

*Edit* It's the next day and it finally queued! At 311... I thought I would beat the guy who had 337 solves ><

http://tinypic.com/r/2u7lw5z/7

Comment by godslayer1119

I'm currently trying to get this trinket, with 131 NE solves. I also am also level 83 currently, so for all of the people out there asking the same question as me, "Can this be discovered before being level 85?" I will let you know/update if I do get it pre-85 and post with pic.

Comment by Hourglass

Let's see...

Tons of Intellect? Check.
Works on-use, rather than relying upon a totally unreliable proc? Check.
Blissfully short cooldown on that on-use? Check.

...somebody please write Blizzard a letter and tell them that THIS is how you design a healer Trinket.

Took a long time to get, though...255th Night Elf solves.
But considering that the H Abacus took me 6 solid months (24 Gunship fights) to even see one DROP... well.

Those of you still chasing this, don't give up! It is absolutely worth it. Best of luck to ya.

Comment by Riddickcz

Hey guys, I have been reading all comments here and was terrified how my Doll hunt will end.
Today it finally popped.
Here You can see the screenshot of how many solves I did. (118 NE)
Happy hunting!
http://oi51.tinypic.com/258m2bo.jpg

Comment by atnx

78 Solves and still no Trinket. going to sleep now, please let the wowhead charm shine upon me when i wake up and farm the first 400 fragments of the day :P

Gl to all who still havent gotten it.

Comment by Hellphantine

Got it after about 80 Common NE solves and all NE rares. Thank God. I'd probably off myself if I was in the position of people who have solved over 200 NE commons.
PS I think this is scaling with SP in some way, I swear it.

Comment by Hautluv

I hate you! 102 common solves and no luck yet. Hoping the wowgods will show favor. Congrats though!

Comment by rate01

226 Nelf completed and finally popped for me.
Probably 50 or so pre- 450 level.

Also last Rare for Nelfs for me.

Comment by Inziladun

I'm at 160 NE solves and starting to get discouraged... especially seeing the people who have done 300+.

Every time I finish a fossil digsite and it spawns another fossil digsite, I die a little inside.

Comment by Fozby

Just got it as my 96th nelf solve(made 5-6 before 450).

My toon is level 84, so you don't need to be 85 to get this.

Comment by kooldavid

It took me 138 NE solves. Good luck everyone!

Comment by Falu

I'm at 180 NE solves, slowly losing interest and patience.

Posting here for maybe some good luck.

Comment by Khama

150 NE solves ... hope vs stress
Please Wowgods hear my pray ! ... ok, back to work X_X

Comment by TuPuoH

Couse no one mention it, when You solve the trinket it counts toward the Guild achievement Master Crafter .

Comment by k94hatch

167 NE commons along with 6/7 rares and still no trinket. Will update if it ever ques

200 NE solves and still no trinket.. come on wow gods...

Comment by nolok

214 commons, 6/7 rares, this trinket will not appear for me. I'm going to just give up I've wasted so much time trying to get this trinket because it seems like it would be so good for my resto shaman.

Comment by WowZoot

Yay! 133rd Nelf solve was the charm for me.

Z.

Comment by jegorah

269, no trinket.

Edit: 302, no trinket

Edit 316, no trinket.

Edit 330, no trinket.

What game is this again? Everquest? For a trinket that will be obsolete in the next content patch? Hmpf...

Edit 341, no trinket.

With the upcoming changes to archaelogy, we won't even get fossil fragments for the future if/when they invent more rares to craft (200 cap)

Edit: 367, no trinket.

Edit: 401, no trinket.

Edit: 414, no trinket

Comment by Billqt

This was my last rare for the Night Elves, also after 84 commons, wasn't expecting to get it, pretty useless to me as a Warlock though, -_-. Time to level a healer. Keep going, it'll show up.

Comment by Ebimumecha

Update :
406 NE solves .... no trinket :)

Comment by DiggerNick

Total artifacts
Dwarf: 6
Draenei: 1
Fossil: 55
Night Elf: 206
Orc: 3
Tol'vir: 15
Troll: 22

This grind is totally demoralizing. 206 solves and still no trinket. Starting to think it just doesn't exist. To be fair I leveled with fossil/NE, but even at that, its a ton of grinding. To all those who are 300+, see you soon lol.

Comment by Pheehp

246 common solves + 6/7 rares.. still nothing... agony.

Comment by aleksei74

over 250 NE common solved..but nothing..

Comment by Ty52

for what i´ve been seeing (maybe due to the undergear stat of most people) it´ll be preferable for a healer as they have MUCH more mana issues than dps

Comment by Cheezypoofs25

Dwarf: 17
Fossil: 71
Night Elf: 215
Tol'vir: 23
Troll: 43

Finally got it on the 215th solve. It really does exist. Based on the numbers I've seen, and knowing a lot about probabilities, I'd guess that it looks like it's about a 1% chance to proc.

The bonus is that I also got Scepter of Azj'Aqir and Ring of the Boy Emperor along the way. :-)

It's a grind, but well worth it in the end when you consider the fact that it's BoA, as long as you have multiple toons that can use it. I have a fire mage, 3 priests (2 horde, 1 alliance), 1 affliction locks (1 horde, 1 alliance), holy pally, resto shaman and a resto druid, so this 1 trinket knocks out 9 epic trinkets for me. What can I say, I like casters.

Comment by Nyssardra

Still fairly early on for me. 47 NE solves and 5/7 rares. Been grinding for 4 days straight now. I have the worst luck when it comes to this games RNG monster so I'm sure I'll be on here in a week crying to the WoWhead Gods. But on the bright side, I've made about 6k from tol'vir and since I;m not desperate for anything from them, it's a nice little break seeing an Uldum site queue.

Comment by abiz

Does the arcane damage produce threat?

Comment by hidearo

Got it after 103 NE common solves and NE 6/7 rares. Awesome trinket and yes, it can be abit demoralizing after digging up many many fragments and getting commons, but do not give up.

Comment by jdschreier

191 Nelf solves and im pulling my hair out!

wowhead gods,please hear my plea.

Comment by Lailani1989

122 NE all rares, no trinket yet! Started this project on the 7th, so hopefully it'll be soon!

Comment by neversurrender

182 ne crafts and counting. If I see "carcanet of the hundred magi" again, I'll break something.

Comment by elne

Dear Blizzard,

180+ solves and counting. 6/7 Night Elf rares. I did solves on the Eastern Kingdom until 450 skill. This is, without a doubt, the worst thing I have ever done on World of Warcraft. It is not fun. It is not rewarding. On the road traveled to your goal, you receive nothing but bags full of valueless vendor trash, several insipid, space-consuming rares and hundreds, no thousands, of unused fossil artifacts. Did you forget this is a game? What bothers me most is the incredible disparity in time spent between those solving the trinket at 100 or less artifacts and those at greater than 300. This is uninspired RNG content at its worst. Many of us who started the profession having fun, lured in by new content, are now despondent and continue only because we wish to make it feel as though the many days spent farming are worth something in the end.

Sincerely,
Elne

Comment by roastduckalamode

I think I may have stumbled upon some information to help us all.

In my guild 6 people have gotten this trink and Ring.

All six had the Trink proc between their 3rd and 5th rare.
They also all had the ring proc as their first Tol'vir rare.

I asked around in trade chat and have heard similar results. Also, reading the forums I've seen similar results.

I'll posit that:

The trink must proc before completing the other 6 rares. Otherwise, your chances sink into the horrible RNG. I.e, if you don't get this trink within your first 50 solves, you'll probably solve +200 before you see it.

For the ring, it must proc as your first Tol'vir rare. The useless scarab trink proc'ed for me, and I've solved 10 more tol'vir commons since then, and no other rares have proc'ed.

My advice. If you really want this trink and/or ring, use your alts!

It'll take you 20-30 hours to lvl an alt's arch see if the ring/trink procs. It could take 100+ hours to get this trink if its your last nelf rare.

Just my theory/idea. I hope it helps.

Comment by jimmy714

6/7 rares and 53 solves later.

Comment by Paradime

You know any healer looking to get this it really isn't worth it, your better off spending your time raiding and getting even better trinkets. I still am trying to get this but that would be more sensible

Comment by xabbu76

Got this as my 251st Night Elf project and my 14th rare.

I don't know if this was a coincidence or not but I had a 150 fragment dwarf rare in my log for ages and didn't queue any other rare for almost 2 weeks of casual farming. After I had finished this rare I queued Zin'rokh, the mechanical gnome and Tyrande's doll within appr. 20 solves. Probably just dumb luck to end a long and frustrating grind.

As far as the Tol'vir ring is concerned I must disagree with roasts speculation. I got this ring after the scarab pendant and before I had completed more than 20 Tol'vir projects.

Comment by spensa

218 and im about to go crazy =/

please please can i get it soon so i can focus on other things

edit: finally got it! 249!

WOOT! made my day!

Comment by pringlesranch

Hoping to receive the blessing of the wowhead gods...

Comment by neversurrender

Alchemists, you might want to reconsider wasting time farming this trinket:

Vibrant Alchemist Stone will be added in game in the patch 4.0.6
It has 301 intellect, a red socket (+40int gem anyone?) and a 10 intellect socket bonus. That's 351intellect for a trinket which is absolutely AMAZING. ALSO it increases the effect of potions , so it will easily be a much better choice than Tyrande's crap doll.

Last but not least, the alchemy trinket, apart from the huge int amount, ALSO gives a stunning 194 haste!

Comment by cicatrix

Just to add to the drop statistics:

At level 85 and 450 archeaology I took the 272 Night Elf fragments that I had saved up from leveling and solved all of them at once.

No Doll.

However, after digging around and solving just ONE common Night Elf artifact following these solves, the Doll came up next.

That means after only 10 minutes into 450 archaeology, I was able to pick up the artifact for this trinket.

Woo!

So that would be:

9 common Night Elf solves (1 of each) and one rare solve (the robe), and then came the Doll =)

Comment by Framnk

Noticed a weird thing with this trinket... when I have equipped it in one gear set then switch specs/gear, I get a huge icon of the doll appearing on the bottom of my screen. It is not an interactive icon, and it doesn't go away. Is a mod causing this to happen or is this something with the doll itself?

Comment by dakwomps

322 Solves and still no Doll, really? I mean REALLY? If you need me, I'll be at the casino cashing in on my abysmally bad luck : /

Comment by Scholar

Wow, those are some horror stories, glad I was a lucky one!

Just queued this - 43 NE Commons, all the NE rares, and a total of 65 completed artifacts.

Comment by timowillemsen

I'm 525 archaeology, 15 night elf solves this pops up. You can say I'm a very happy dwarf priest now =)

Comment by ScinX

68 Nelf solves and I got it! Lucky I'm a priest heh.

Comment by kalammalkhar

well i've been at this for a few days now just a few hours here and there and i swear if your hunting for it you wont find it lol. its a real big time sink, thats for sure. currently at 102 nelf artifacts completed. not gonna give up, and just might update daily to let u allknow how the grind is going. cant wait to get this trinket.

as stated willupdate i dont grind it too hard im up too 132 now. wonder when it will drop for me.

well up to 159 now on the upside got the ring cant beleive some of the numbers im seeing posted for this thing i will have my trinket

up too 184 starting my farming marathon again. hoping for some good luck here.

Comment by neversurrender

everyone here got the trinket after getting all the other rares, so going through all the other pretty much looks mandatory, are you saying otherwise?

Comment by morphling13

I've been grinding this for a whole week, 177 NE solved still no luck.
I'm losing my nerf now T.T

Comment by britannagis

Posting for luck at 145 solves. /crosses fingers

Comment by davemaster223

Guess I have nothing to lose in posting my status.... 295 NE Solves ATM and still trucking :) Hope to see it soon!

Comment by Fwip

Having 6/7 is not a requirement, unless there are multiple people lying on this page (and for what gain?)

Comment by davemaster223

546 COMMONS! Sweet mother of god theres no hope for the rest of us

Comment by pripps

I just got this as my next project, after finishing bones of transformation this trinket popped up, at a totalt of 10-15 solves :P
it's just annoys me cus all i want is more damn digs in uldum.

Comment by Brawn83

After many weeks of grinding, it unlocked for me on the 414th Night Elf solve.

Screenshot: http://i52.tinypic.com/e8tt8z.jpg

Comment by Tedrow

As a healer the aoe damage on this trinket it actually a pain in the butt.

Popping this for mana return around CC'd adds breaks them or if you have this trinket macro'd with a heal (and forget about the macro and cast the heal) the aoe from this trinket will pull a boss.. Ya I've seen it happen..

To prevent this trinket from going off in combat but still having it bound to a heal i use a macro like this:

/use 13
/cast Holy Light

This assumes your trinket is in slot 13. If your in combat the trinket will be used as usual, if not the trinket will not go off. This will prevent you from pulling bosses when your just trying to top people off after a wipe.

Although you will still have to make sure your not close to a CC'd target while healing if your using this trinket in a macro like the one above.

Comment by Sycarius

I got this trinket right after completing Bones of Transformation. So if anyone was wondering, there isn't a cooldown between rares like this and they can be solved one after the other. It took me about 40 solves to find this trinket, but I've heard of people who have gone past 200 and still have not found it.

Comment by harejordan

Sorry if this was already mentioned, but the Arcane explosion damage effect is off the Global CD. It's great when you need roughly 5k dmg and can't wait the one second.

Comment by Gvaz

I've done 40 solves so far, all commons, all rares except the wisp amulet and this one. I have a feeling 100ish solves for tyrande sounds about right.

Comment by Warrkid

just hit 450 skill,saved 2.2k fragments and 50 scrolls,o higher spirits of wowhead,let me get this trinket fast

Comment by Angoth

I can't tell you how much I appreciate you sharing your good fortune with me.
/sarcasm

Comment by Lightest

Took me 75 Night Elf solves until this popped ... I learned 6/7 previously and my skill's 525
I feel bad for the people over 100 :( i wouldn't be able to do that

Comment by SolarStoned

just got this trinket today and went into halls of reflection and activated it on a bunch of mobs...68kdmg :D
awesome for aoe but it wont do much on a single target!
other then that the int is yummy and being an arcane mage the mana bk is always helpful

Comment by Kail3nn

This trinket refuses to pop, nearly 300 artifacts made past 450. Blizzard you've made such a good profession, why did you have to ruin it with RNG like the rest of the game.

Comment by Lindorage

Would just like to point out that for some reason it will not store mana for spells such as Mark of the Wild and Teleport: Moonglade. It also does not work for any druids shapeshifting abilities. I gave it to my mage to test out what it works with there, and it did work with Arcane Brilliance and Molten Armor.

Since it worked with mage buffs but not druid buffs, my guess is that it is supposed to but is just bugged atm. Hard to know what exactly blizzard had intended for it though.

Also was wondering if someone knew of an addon that would let you know how much mana was stored in the trinket without having to mouse over the buff? If so that would be amazing :)

Comment by Permafrench

Posting here to whine about low drop, and hoping for the so called "wowhead gods" to help me out with this trinket :)

Comment by cenne

Inlaid Ivory Comb x2
Scandalous Silk Nightgown x2
Cloak Clasp with Antlers x3
Shattered Glaive x2
Highborne Pyxis x1
Kaldorei Amphora x1

Bones of Transformation x1
Kaldorei Wind Chimes x1

Got the doll 10 days ago when my rogue was only 76. The bracket indicates when I just caved in and used all of my fragments at once and I got REALLY lucky. It was my 21? artifact solved. So yes, you can get the doll before level 85 as long as you have a skill level of 450 in archaeology.

Good luck everyone!

Comment by alagator

its prob more along the lines of random loot is random, one person will run strat once get his baron mount, someone else could run it hundreds of times and not get one to drop, gonna be different for everyone

Comment by Wintermetal

I just had this come up right now after 18 solves: http://i52.tinypic.com/a15ra1.png

I found it interesting considering I told somebody specifically not to expect too much from Archaeology.

Anyway I don't think it will be that useful for my Warlock so I might give it to either my Priest or my Mage for when they hit 85.

Good luck to everybody else trying.

EDIT: Dunno why this is rated down, there's 200+ comments on here with similar comments. Sure I got lucky here, but I've been unlucky in other places.

Comment by Lailani1989

Finally got it to queue, also got the AQ mount.. Took a break for 4 days, and then did about 20 NE today, 179 total.. It was the last one before bed, but now I'm staying up to complete it.

Comment by kika100

just posting for luck from the wowhead gods! up to 156 nelf commons now and posting this for a bit of motivation :D

also goodluck to everybody else attempting to get the doll

Comment by pringlesranch

211 ne commons solved 6/7 rare and still no trinket found. I'm pretty sure I'm not a bad person so why does probability hate me so much :( I want to give up really badly and lose all hope, but a stupid part of me keeps telling myself that I've ALREADY went this far and gotten so and so fragments. In reality, I'll probably never find the trinket. I'll be worse than the other guy who's already at 500+. Word of advice: DON'T farm this trinket unless you're used to winning things all the time with luck like slots or bingo or whatever. I've always thought my luck was average but apparently I was disillusioned. And now I've entrapped myself into continuing eternally to farm for this trinket. I'll post again a week from now when I stupidly continue farming and surpass the 500 guy. Fittingly, one of the words for my captcha confirmation happens to be regret (it looks like it anyway). Even the internet can feel my pain.

Comment by giry

Giry crafted item Tyrande's Favorite Doll (Miscellaneous, item level 359). 12 hours ago

Got it last night after 100 (101-doll) ne solves , for who is farming :
1. Get wow in window mode
2. Play a movie on the other half of the screen (or if you got 2 monitors then your lucky :D )
3. Farm

Till the movie is over i farm like 200-300 ne fragments then i solve them , the time is going away much faster
Good luck farmers ;)

Btw i`m done with arche , i got the ring on my way to trinket and i don`t realy wanna get started with any staff :D

Comment by lycheee

been up 24 hrs farming this trinket, i'm about to go insane.

Comment by Angoth

Just got it. FINALLY!

On my main, I had solved > 375 Night Elf Artifacts with no luck. I logged into my Paladin Alt and I'll detail the process I followed. But, I will say it is pure luck.

1. 80 Paladin sitting idle since WoLK.
2. Trained Archaeology (of course).
3. Farmed Kalimdor for whatever was available. NEVER SOLVED Night Elf artifacts. Saved Highborne Scrolls.
4. Got Archaeology to 300. Archaeology leveling was very slow due to saving the most common fragments. I knew this was going to happen.
5. Had 2500 Night Elf fragments and 80 Highborne Scrolls,
6. Went to Eastern Kingdoms.
7. Farmed anything available and solved anything but Night Elf.
8. At 450 Archaeology, started solving Night Elf artifacts using every keystone slot.
9. At 296 fragments left, Tyrande's Favorite Doll popped as next one up.

I was getting really pissed when I started running out of Night Elf fragments. I mean really pissed. But, it is pure luck. I got every other Night Elf rare on my alt (as well as on my main) when it came up.

You can only do this method until the 4.0.6 patch as the number of fragments will be capped at 200. I was running out of time, so I tried it on my alt. Oh, and by the way, got to level 82 also.

Here's hoping you have luck on your side. Honestly.

Comment by PringlesBBQ

207 NE solves and still going :(
Here's hoping the wowhead gods have pity on me!

Comment by peepers288

Just solved my 100th Night Elf project, 6/7 rares (I sense a common theme)
Hoping I hit the golden spot, judging from previous posts. Oh, and a quick prayer to RNGesus, amen.

Comment by plastikmelter

Currently at 331 solves, all of them were done at skill level 450 or higher. Getting very frustrated, I want to focus on other things in game but the hunt for this doll is consuming me. A guildy claims she got hers at just over 500 solves but I can't confirm that. Worst rng ever for this crap

Comment by morphling13

Dear Wowhead God,

Would you please help me get this trinket? I solved 200 NE on my main and started over again on my alt, the total NE solved is currently 284 over 2 weeks. Please help me, I will never never never ever forget your kindness.

Best regards,

Poor Bloodelf Priest T.T

Comment by Renoflash

Still no trinket, 619 solves, and I've already lost what was remaining of my sanity.

This trinket became my nemesis, up to the point that I have lost any other mean of being alive.

Comment by Natedogg9610

152 Nightelf solves, No trinket.

...and I'm done. I tried farming it for my level 85 human priest.

There's a lot of people on here saying "don't give up, you'll get it in time, blah, blah, blah." Not true, don't get your hopes up.

DO NOT try to farm this trinket if you are a healer.

I understand some people get lucky, and some people don't (like myself). But why put yourself into a position where you will spend countless hours and might walk away empty handed.

This trinket is good. But there are two other healing trinkets right now that are just as good if not better, two of which you are guaranteed to obtain through your efforts:

Core of Ripeness Run your heroics and raids for valor points and you're guaranteed this trinket.
Darkmoon Card: Tsunami Farm gold and buy the cards or even the complete deck in the AH. (perhaps overpriced, but nonetheless your time spent farming guarantees you will own this card)

The third trinket, Jar of Ancient Remedies, is not guaranteed. But through raiding you will have a decent shot at this trinket early on.

I did a fair bit of research on Tyrande's Favorite Doll before I began archaeology by reading through hundreds of forums:
- Trinket has approximately 1% drop rate per project.
- 99% of people obtained this trinket after 450 archaeology skill.
- About half of all people who obtained this trinket, obtained it between 100-150 NE solves.
= Of those who obtained the trinket, about 25% of them saved all artifacts until they reached 450 archaeology skill.
- The other half of all people who obtained this trinket, obtained it between 150-300 NE solves.
- There were a very few extremely devoted individuals who obtained it after 300+ NE solves. (EFFFFFF That)
- You can solve between 5-10 NE projects per hour. (I'd say I probably put in about 25-30 hrs for 152 projects, I slacked a bit as I watched some NFL highlights and things between dig sites)

A couple tips for those looking to obtain this:
- Save all of your NE artifacts and highborne scrolls until you reach 450 skill.
- Perform archaeology on a character that you are currently leveling.
- Make sure you have 315% flight speed.
- Do ALL of your archaeology on Kalimdor as it has by far the most NE digs and is also the only continent with Tol'vir.
- There are multiple pieces of epic gear from Tol'vir in addition to this trinket, so go in with the mentality that you are just trying to get one of these epics while you farm for Tyrande's Favorite Doll. (I got Ring of the Boy Emperor)
- Once you get one of the epics, STOP. Hopefully it is TFD. Do not farm individually for TFD.
- You can make a bit of money selling Tol'vir Hieroglyphs in the meantime depending on your server.

All in all, I walk away empty handed having spent over a day of my life going for this trinket. I'm done. Perhaps I'll level up my rogue from 80-85 doing archaeology later on in life, but for now. I got burned, don't be like me.

Good Luck

Comment by Ogait

I've discovered this Beautiful Doll on my Restoration Druid 5 minutes ago.

Think I'm really luck considering I've read all the posts and people did farm this for weeks, with high amount of Solves and didn't get anything.

I've found this beauty exactly with 34 Solves. And now comes the funny part!
from those 34 Solves, 4 are rares and 30 are common.

As you can see on my chat, there is all the information about my Archaelogy. Basically, open your Arch tab, go to your discovery page and run this macro:

/run print("Archeology Artifacts"); for x=1,9 do local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(x); local a =0; for y=1,c do local t = select(9, GetArtifactInfoByRace(x, y)); a=a+t;end local rn = GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x); if( c > 1 ) then print(rn .. ": " .. a); end end

Also, if you think I'm lying, please see this: This is my Armory Link

Comment by Possibly

278 Night Elf Commons.
6/7 NE Rares.

All achievements but It Belongs In a Museum.

Still no trinket.

I used over 900 fragments and 35 Highborne scrolls last night alone in one push.
Slightly demoralizing.

*edit* my character is a gnome who loves night elf stuff. Combined with him being a priest and this item being useful makes it trigger "It Must Be Mine!" in my head. Ugh.

Comment by Awanaweh

I have farmed this trinket since I learned archaeology. I have been lvl 525 Archaeology since January 1, 2011. I have 10 rares, all the Night Elf rares, All the Fossil rares (which aren't very rare), a Dwarven rare, and even the server first Tol'Vir Ultramarine Qiraji Battle Tank bug mount, but alas no doll.

Total artifacts:

Dwarf - 9
Fossil - 34
Night Elf - 86
TolVir - 5
Troll - 27
Vrykul - 3

Most of those solves were duplicates (up to 5-7 of each.) I've tried Northrend, Eastern Kingdoms, but mostly stick with Kalimdor, of course. As I am clearly obsessed, I usually only do Archaeology when logged on the game. RNG is not my friend in this quest, but I dare not give up!

Comment by Sharphoof

Time for a new experiment. Starting tonight, I plan on collecting NE fragments for the next 5 days. I figure the final amount should be around 3000 fragments when it comes time to solve. If this doesn't work, I'll disenchant all of my gear and give my gold to the first person I see in Org. Then I'll open my front door and rejoin civilized society.

Comment by Jirek

Got it and the Professor title as my 253:rd Night Elf project, pretty much all of them post 525...

...and it's just my luck to get nothing but Tol'Vir sites when trying to solve it!

For now I'm done with this little rat race until they give it some fundamental purpose besides the fringe epic benefits (and an admittedly cool title).

Comment by arottenmind

Im sitting at 89 NE Solves right now and still no doll, I got the wisp ammy and the bones back to back at like 500 skill... Hopefully this shows up soon............

Comment by oneironautt

giving up means you definitely won't find the doll.

Comment by batpig

172 Night Elf solves with no trinket yet, although I have gotten the Tol'Vir ring. Posting for luck...

Comment by Manabreakpls

Stupid to whine at 60 solves i suppose ... But here's one from me to the WoW God! :)
P.S. Never give up guys... Just live for the moment of the "Solve" and always hope that that Doll icon will pop up :)

Comment by Boltcritz

This feels just like farming the baron's mount back about a year ago.

That took 113 for me.

I'm at 84 Solves, got 2 Uldum rares

The battle tank and the dumb scarab toy.

and all the other NE rares but the one i really want.

Posting for luck, NEVER GIVE UP! ONWARD TO GLORY!

Comment by Khama

Tonight after raid, a mage from my guild said in guild chat:"well I got the doll but I have better trinkets now... Funny because I got 3 rares in a row" ... my reaction : "DAMN YOU SON A ........" x100, then he gave me his remaining scrolls (3) ... I start the solves, 550 frags + 10 scrolls ... The damn doll proyect (NE 246) appear with the last 3 scrolls (mage´s lucky?)

True story, now I can go back to ... mining/herbalism farm lol ...

Comment by Boltcritz

I feel your pain, a mage in my guild got it and she felt so back because i've been farming it for the better part of a week now.

Comment by boombear

For anyone who is wondering like I was (+ if I did the math right, as simple as it is) this trinket equals out to 350 mp5 for the on-use-effect.

Comment by Norrithos

/kneel
/pray to RNGesus

"Dear RNGesus,

I know that I have 6 of the 7 night elf rares already and for that I thank you. I also know that I have only completed 118 night elf commons, far less than others that are also asking for your assistance. I also know that the first (and only) tolvir rare that you gave me was the caster ring, which I am grateful for. But PLEASE, PLEASE let the trinket queue for me! I have been dedicated enough to stay in Kalimdor and I would really like to ~try~ other factions!

Thanks for listening,

Norrithos

Comment by ricomoss

I was able to get this pretty quickly after I hit 525. Actually, I had no idea what it was - I was just going for the "10 rare" achievement.

I sent it over to my elemental shaman...which turned out to be amazing. The damage scales with nature damage so my ele shaman gets about 4600 in the aoe rather than 4200. I macro'd it into my Lightning Bolt for the most efficient use. Rarely, if ever, is there CC going on in a raid situation so I'm not too worried about it.

#showtooltip Lightning Bolt
/use Tyrande's Favorite Doll
/cast Lightning Bolt

Be sure to /use before /cast otherwise the macro won't work.

Comment by Wreden

Is it possible to farm this trinket even if you farm it on lets say a dk or do I have to be using mana to be able to get this one? (I dont have archaeology on my mana using chars).

Comment by Hawkyyy

Want this trinket on my priest so started faming it, already got 6/7 Night Elf rares so thought would get this pretty fast but after reading most of the comments here looks like im in for a long grind.

Im only on 72 Night Elf solves so hopefully will get it soon...

Comment by THEspiritwalker

WOOOO YEAH JUST GOT THIS!

DONT CARE ABOUT THE FARMING, I HAVE IT NOW!

POW, RIGHT IN THE KISSER!

Comment by Koreanthunda

This trinket is not worth it. Unless your extremely lucky, farming for this is the biggest waste of time. I've got 155 Nelf artifacts post 450 with 6/7 rares. It simply isn't worth the frustration of investing so much time without any reward. I'm about to give up but i think i'll try a few more. RNG is the biggest PoS i've ever seen.

/pray to RNGesus. Good luck to those that continue the search. As for me i'm almost done with this waste of time.

I commend those of you who have 200+ artifacts found without the trinket thus far. You guys must be on crack.

161 Artifacts and Jack @#$% Nada. I'm starting to believe this trinket is a Myth.

Comment by Phenom01

195 NE solves 6/7 NE rares. No trinket yet. Friend is guild got his to pop at 110 NE solves.

/bow Dear RNG gods bless me with the luck to get this to pop before i throw my pc out the window and jump out head first onto the pavement.

Comment by Slashpopcorn

207 night elf solves now. Have been at 6/7 night elf rares for quite a while. Just hoping that the trinket will show up soon.

Update: 230, still no trinket. /pray to RNGesus

It showed up! After 232 solves. Thank you RNGesus!

Comment by emofurious

254 and counting... RAGE

popped at 281 for me dont know if im more excited about finnaly quiting arch or getting the trinket LOL

Comment by omeggidon12

Delete you toon troll. Delete it and save all future groups from having to deal with your stupidity. I can't imagine how big of a moron one would have to be to assume this trink would be nice or passible for a tank trink. Just take your toon to the tree in hyjal, fly all the way to the very top of the branches and do everyone you unfortunate enough to have or maybe one day group with you and jump. Don't bubble, just let your toon die. Log out and burn your computer.

Comment by Antrahho

Gave up on it after 400~ researches , if i could return time wasted i would , imo broken profession that needs serious fix.

Comment by Desavian

65 ne artifacts 7/7 rares

its just all about RNG

Comment by arottenmind

I am currently at 135 night elf solves, with 6/7 rares found.. I come here read the comments and now I can't even make myself farm for this, its so depressing seeing people still not having it after 200-300+ solves.. Oh well gonna try and keep going..

/pray to RNGesus

hopefully that works..

Comment by roman731

dear RNG gods, I'm sick and tired of farming this trinket.. please let it proc with me so I can continue with the rest of my life. thank you.

Comment by geo1277

Well after 71 Night Elf discoveries Tyrande's Favorite Doll finally popped up. I put in about 40+ hours after arch 525 so keep on pushing yourself you will get it eventually. And for the people that are in the 300+ zone you guys kept me going thanks for not giving up.

Comment by Zydell

I made this macro to track the amount of nightelf solves and the estimated find chance by that many solves (based on a 0,5% chance to find it, which is a guess):

/run local a=0; for y=1,GetNumArtifactsByRace(4) do local t=select(9,GetArtifactInfoByRace(4,y)); a=a+t; end print("Nightelf: " .. a .. " solves! ("..floor(1000*(1-(0.995^a)))/10 .. "% chance to have found the trinket by now.)");

Please note that the macro may bug (give lower solves/percentages) after just solving a nightelf item. If this is the case, go to the archaeology panel, then the second tab (showing you all your solves done) and then run it again and it will be ok.

For statistics: it procced it as my 98th solve, I did solve nightelf before 450 so I guess its about the 90th solve.

Comment by Neverblink

Well Ladies and gents after reading this for a Longg time and crying myself to sleep i figured i would post. I'm at 200 even Nelf commons made and i DID complete before 450 so who knows what its at ? 150 ? 6/7 Rares since i started looking for this trinket. The only thing Good ive found was the Boy emp ring from tolvir. Posting for luck and stats !

Comment by nightlily

worse case scenario for this trinket, if you are on a 5 minute fight and only make use of it 4 times before the end of the fight, it will net you 280 mp5. In practice this will land somewhere between 350-280 mp5 on shorter fights, but the low end will even out with longer fight durations.

for a 5 second fight: 4200x4 uses/60 seconds = 280 mp5.

for a 10 second fight: 4200x9 use/60s*5 /10 = 315 mp5

Comment by Shinnok

Greetings fellow seekers of this beautiful artifact :)

I have had my sights set on this for a long time now, still no luck. It originally started with just wanting the recipe for the vial of the sands (still no luck either) but after seeing this possibility I decided to chase both. Reading all these comments, gives me mixed feelings and so I too will post here and wish you all the best of luck in your search, and hope too that I will get it sooner rather than later. 110 NE solves, just a shadow of some of you, don't give up mates I know I just can't! Play in windowed mode and do other stuff while flying - take breaks so you keep your sanity! Good luck all, I'll edit here with my progress. I'm standing next to someone in Orgrimmar right now with it equipped, as well as the Boy Emperor ring... This gives me hope! ;)

Comment by Zydell

No... it simple means that (assuming a 1% proc chance and no solves performed before 450 skill) about 3 out of 4 people would've found the trinket when they've done as many solves as you have. However, you are unfortunately part of the remaining group (about 1 in 4 people) that haven't found the trinket yet... All assuming that the chance to discover this is actually 1%, which I am not certain of.

Comment by Zydell

I dont see why you downrated it; to clarify: it does not return the chance that the next solve will be the trinket... it simple returns the percentage of people that would have found the trinket by that time (assuming no pre-450 solves and a 0.5% find chance). I guess you are just part of the 24% of people that are less lucky, dont blame me or my macro for that :P.

Comment by Rhodesy

85 Solves 7/7 Rares. Good luck folks :)

Comment by Inziladun

218 NE solves and still nothing. Slowly dying inside.

Comment by Nebulater

Shameless rant to vent my anger. Maybe if I complain enough I'll get it.

IM GOING TO PUNT A BABY IF THIS THING DOESN'T DROP SOON COMEON PLEAAAAASE ILL DO ANYTHING I'LL DIE IF I HAVE TO FARM ANY LONGER BLEHHHHHH

Currently at 187 NE solves. It sounds to me that I'm in between the people who've got it really fast and the people still working on it.

Comment by magux

Just miss to talk about how Intelect will help you tank...

Oh god, and i used to be a pally...

Comment by srayz

same here man, im not giving up i hope it comes up soon for me repost if you get it and how much common crap you went thru before it came up

Comment by MikadoGG

I'm up to 250 Nelf artifacts solved, almost all of them after hitting 525. This is some of the worst RNG I've had in 6 years of playing WoW.

Comment by Sharphoof

It finally happened.

I got this as my 225th solve.

Here are my total stats:

Dwarf: 8
Fossil: 68
Night Elf: 225
Tol'vir: 27
Troll: 29

So long Archaeology!

Comment by arothes

252 nelf solves in :/
here is to me getting the trinket before i go clinically insane...oh wait...no trinket and no beer make homer go something something, watching the simpsons while grinding = win

Comment by ethelyn

I got the doll at my 44th NE solve, this being my 6th NE rare.
I got my ring from Tol'vir too since I was digging so much in Kalimdor!

Good luck guys!

Comment by reimel37

Yes getting closer too 100 NE Solves and beginning to cringe thinking it could take me 100 more to get this trinket. This is Blizz really makes me hate them at times.

Comment by Manabreakpls

I cried after so many years. :'(

Comment by infamousrene

Worked on archaeology for the day and i came up with 550 fragments and nothing but commons : ( Sigh

Comment by huskyetha

295 NightElf solves
6/7 rares
Ring from Tol'vir
Scarab Trinket
Fossil Pet and Mount
And if the Doll doesnt drop in the next 7 days of farming i am going to give up.

301 Nelf Solves still no sign of anything remotely looking like RNG luck :)

Comment by Fokissed

This is just crazy, I've done 58 so far, with at least 5 - 6 of each even up to 7 per each common, a guildie was at 515 with maybe 15 and 4 rares and got it. I got all the rares and all the commons at least 3 times each. This is just stupid. Not to mention I got the Dwarf pet, fossil pet and mount, and all the nightelfs rare this is just beyond.

Comment by Pheehp

402 Nelf Solves after 450, no trinket. no words.

Comment by Crandell

This was my 100th NE solve after getting every other artifact for them. My arch was capped at 525.

Comment by Neverblink

i swear this is bugged! if you solve before 450 it might que up then itll never que up again bc server thinks it que'd alrdy and you have it but you dont. gg

Comment by Cellane

Just dinged 360 solves, gathered almost 3000 fossil fragments during the process, and no trinket. Posting for just a bit of luck from the Wowhead Gods :-)

Comment by Crypteia

Got this at 525 archeology after 6 NE rares and 18 common NE artifacts. So you can get lucky, Holy Pally karma I guess.

Comment by infamousrene

229 common solves and this was the next and final rare for night elf. Long grind and gl to others

Comment by Mymloch

320 NE solves and still nothing. I am one of the VERY unlucky ones, it seems.

Comment by fnwicked

150 Night Elf solves. 6/7 on the rares. Still searching.

Edit: 5 solves later after posting this and I got it. Now time to work toward Zin'rokh.

Good luck to everyone on here who still haven't found theirs.

Comment by Waple21

I have been farming nonstop for coming up on 36 hours i have gotten 140 NE artifacts and i have still not seen it... perhaps crappy luck? am i doing something wrong im 525 and everything... getting really frustrated...

Comment by Greku

221 solves so far, 6/7 nelf, no trinket. slowly losing hope :-/

Comment by Romelus

What a #$%^ing joke this is...... posting for luckz....

Comment by deathbivouac

131 Night Elf solves post-525 and counting. RNG is a !@#$%. Posting here for good luck, will update if I ever find this elusive doll. Best of luck to all, hope your sanity is in a better spot than mine is at the current time ~_~

Edit:
Up to 177 Night Elf solves, giving up at 200. I have better things to do in my life than spend hours on end flying all over Kalimdor to click a shovel for one minute. This fruitless grind has killed WoW for me. I might not have the amount of solves some people do (and seriously, I don't see how some of you do it), but at least I'll spare my dignity if I quit before I lose it.

Comment by Jeeyoker

Don't give up!

Finally got mine to proc, after everyone had been laughing at me for wasting my time.

Here are my stats:
Total artifacts
Dwarf: 2
Draenei: 5
Fossil: 32
Night Elf: 107
Orc: 4
Tol'vir: 11
Troll: 10

Comment by EviAlaris

By the time you loot this item, you will be an expert at flying through trees. Bloody Ashenvale.

Comment by Reaul

Posting for Luck, 229 solves and no trinket. Only missing rare!

Comment by Alissy

Ok so I know I'm not nearly anywhere near what other people have been grinding but I heard this works! Please oh WoWhead Gods heed my call! I even dreamt that I found this trinket which was pretty sad! Hope this holds me off until Shard of Woe T_T

It's actually really sad because if you're in a decent raiding guild there are better trinkets that drop, but to try and min/max you have to go that extra little mile. This is about the worst design Blizzard has come up with so far as anyone trying to min/max as a healer will most undoubtedly be forced to grind this crap for the trinket. 350mp5 is a lot higher than 400 spirit for pretty much any value of Int obtainable atm so DMC Tsunami is only so good, and Jar of Ancient Remedies does not give Int.

As a good healer, you want to aim to be OOM at the end of the most mana intensive healing fight because any regen past that is wasted. Rest of your stats should be gearing towards HPS so the Int is very useful.

Oh well wish me luck and in return I wish you all luck on this craptastic grind

Comment by Liinx

Oh you elusive trinket... How I have wasted my past 3 or 4 weekends and many hours throughout the week solving your precious Night Elf artifacts.

I have obtained all rares except for the trinket of course and all of the commons. I am going on about 175 Night Elf solves so far. I am hoping that RNG will be kind to me after posting this to wowhead.

Why must you tease me Tyrande? My druid self needs you T-T

Wish me luck too and I hope others get theirs much quicker than some of us unlucky ones. This grind is disheartening.

Comment by Sorcon

Just to give you the other side of this RNG Nightmare...

I've been 6/7 Night Elf Rares for a few weeks now.

169 Night Elf Common Solves, so 175 Total Solves.

No Trinket.

I have the Ring of the Boy Emperor along with a few other Tol'Vir Rares... I have all the Fossil Rares, tons of Dwarf Rares... And all I really want is THIS DARN DOLL!

I even buy the Highborne Scrolls off the AH to increase my Night Elf solves...

Comment by eddieee

Trained archaeology for the sole purpose of getting this trinket. Took me maybe 2-3 days of intense farming/grinding to get to 525 (as well as this sexy trinky!).

Got it on my 74th night elf solve (6/7 rares). Was my 10th rare overall (yay title!). Solved 28 or so night elf solves before 450, then solved them as I gathered from 450-525+. I have no patience so I never saved any fragments and always used (and purchased additional) Highborne scrolls.

By the way, I got 4/6 rares < 450 (with less than 28 n elf solves) and my 5th rare (Bones of Transformation) at around 31 solves, 6th rare (Kaldorei Wind Chimes) at around 43 solves. So for you people who seem to be getting all the rares rather quickly, you might get it fairly quickly, as I did.

For those with the trinky, an awesome guide to use it with power auras: http://project-2501.net/index.php/2011/01/tyrandes-doll-and-power-auras/

Good luck!

If anyone's interested:
5 Dwarf
8 Draenei
22 Fossil
74 Night Elf
5 Orc
6 Tol'vir
11 Troll

0-250 Kalimdor
250-300 Eastern Kingdom
300-375 Outlands
375-525+ Kalimdor

Comment by littleblueflash

I'm starting to lose hope :(

dwarf: 18
draenei: 12
fossil: 87
night elf: 263
nerubian: 2
orc: 10
tol'vir: 46
troll: 61
vrykul: 6

sitting at 15/20 rares

thought i'd go finish up everything in outland to break the monotony and got last rare i needed out there. was hoping that something new showing up in the books would help the RNG god be nice to me but no luck...

I don't know if I should just give up on this thing and work on the dwarf rares I don't have to finish up professor...

frustrating :(

Comment by RolleMcKnolle

about 100 NElf ones but nothing. I don't know how u people are able to do 350 of this, but i am about to give up...

Comment by Azutael

The use effect's is affected by lunar eclipse as a balance druid.
For me, lunar eclipse gives me +46 % dmg to arcane spells. And the detonate mana is then dealing 8k dmg instead of it's usuall 4200.

Pretty nice I must admit.

Comment by phubar

Worst grind I have ever done, and still in progress...about 200 solves and nothing. This is truly upsetting.

Comment by Eskalina

The mana storing doesn't proc from Holy Shock.

Comment by draenen

haha. I read the "TF" of "TFD" not as "Tyrande's Favorite" but as "That Farking".

It is. Is really is.

Comment by Ner1

I finnaly got the project for the doll. Here are my Night elf finding's before I got it:

1x Queen Azhara's Favorite Dressing Gown
1x Wisp Amulet
1x Bones of Transformation
1x Druid and Priest Statue Set
1x Kaldorei Wind Chimes
1x Highborne Soul Mirror

10x Scandelous Silk Nightgown
8x Chest of Tiny Glass Animals
9x Highborne Pyxis
13x Necklace with Elune Pendant
11x Coin from Eldre'Thalas
11x Shattered Glaive
10x Inlaid Ivory Comb
10x Green Dragon Ring
12x Cloak Grasp with Antlers
8x Delicate Music Box
10x Kaldorei Amphora
7x Hairpin of Silver and Malachite
10x Scepter of Xavius
8x Cracked Crystal Vial
5x String of Small Pink Pearls (rare!)
7x Umbra Crescent
10x Silver Scroll Case
7x Carcanet of the Hundred Magi

Total 172 Items (57.7% change to have found the doll).

Comment by draenen

EDIT: Dunno why this is rated down, there's 200+ comments on here with similar comments...

and all of THEM are in the process of being downrated, too. The information isn't useful at this point, but it's reached a critical mass - people see other people posting their progress, figure it's okay, and add fuel to the fire.

Given a month, most if not all of these types of comments will end up hidden by people who don't want to trawl through 6 pages of this stuff to get to the nuggets of helpful information.

wowhead != thottbott. A lot of us came here to get away from that nonsense.

Comment by N3XTG3N

Just got mine as last NE rare.
Total: 402 solves
NE: 240 solves

Good luck!

Comment by nimfia

While reading other posts I was getting a little discouraged, but now I see it was unneeded- 54 solves and I got the trinket today, after only 2 days of grinding.

This trinket was one of the major reasons that made me pick up archaeology. I started lvling my profession in Kalimdor, ocassionally switching continents in the progress. I got all the other Night Elf rares before the trinket showed up - all of them at a similar pace - 6 or 7 commons then rare. I wasn't really saving any artifacts to solve them after 450, I was solving everything as soon as it was ready.
I got the rares in this order :

Druid and Priest Statue Set
Highborne Sould Mirror
Queen Azshara's Dressing Gown
Wisp Amulet
Bones of Transformation
Kaldorei Wind Chimes
Tyrande's Favourite Doll

I was wondering if the trinket or the sword from Trolls might have smaller chance to appear than the other rares (pets,tranformation items etc.), but even if it's true, it all still basically depends on luck. Just keep going and don't give up and the item will come :)
btw, next patch will increase prices of common artifacts so don't throw them in the progress, some will be worth even 200 gold ;)
Good luck!

Comment by gandolf21

The good news is that you CAN have 2 rare projects going on at the same time. I was working on the Tol'vir "Ring of the Boy Emperor", and, about half way through it, the doll popped up from a Night Elf dig, making last night a lot of fun!

I am an Arcane Mage, so I was in hog's heaven, still am. I have not yet mastered using the doll, but with a little practice, I'm sure I'll be able to get full use in my rotation, or possibly make a macro.

Ring of Boy Emperor was my 13th rare find, the Doll was the 14th. Previously, I had completed 92 non-rare artifacts.

I had found all the rare Night Elf artifacts, except the doll, and found zero Tol'vir. Most of my initial Arch was done in Eastern Kingdoms, searching for the infamous Dwarven caster's staff.

My advice is simply to grind, grind, grind. I think we all agree that Arch is about as fun as watching paint dry, albeit better than fishing. Since we all have different techniques and patterns in Arch, it makes it very difficult to pin-point any useful formula to figure out drop rate etc. Its like the lottery, you have to play to win :)

The tendency seems to be that you get the "fun" RP items like Bones of Transformation, Inn Keepers Daughter, Raptor Mount, or epic items that are useful for lvl 50 or lvl 70 toons, before you get any useful 85 items. Thats just based on my observations. Since I have found many "fun" artifacts, I hope all of that grinding leads me to the good stuff :)) Seems to be that way. Happy digging my fellow Arch's and GOOD LUCK!

Comment by Hotsrus

124 NE solves with no trinket. This profession needs some work. Time sink or not this is rediculus
Fossil spawns are the bane of my exsistance. Will update when i finally get it.

Comment by tamber92

I was about too give up when this popped. I wasn't full throttle digging just a few everyday. I was at 158 NE solves at max archeology 6/7 rares. The day before I had solved the ring it was my 12th TV solve. Now a guildie of mine has over 300 NE solves and no trinket yet, but he did solve the ring and the two handed sword. Random is random, but archeology does pay off and is great for those long Q times. Don't give up and maybe the RNGesus will smile on you.

Comment by Jajakoga

It is more a healer trink then a DPS trink because most DPS dont have such tough mana issues, so the mana back benefits them less then a healer. That being said, this is still a nice trinket for either.

Comment by tep616

Here is to posting for luck, 213 solves... starting to go crazy....

Comment by borgcubed

I've been losing my sanity like most of you. I finally got it, my 10th rare after 109 Night Elf solves and at least 30 Fossil solves. Keep at it!

Can confirm:

it doesn't capture mana from Holy Shock
it does proc (mine was at 525) if you've solved Night Elf artifacts before level 150

Comment by mannerman

Please rng-gods give me this item!

Comment by Refl3X

This is ridiculous.. I'm at 298 solves and no doll still. RNG hates me :(

Gogo wowhead gods now I need your help! :P

I stored almost 3,5k fossil fragments during that process btw.. Fossils ftw!11

Comment by bbakker09

Just got the doll after 28 NE solves, 101 total solves. I'm pretty lucky

Comment by Hotsrus

Trinket, Trinket, you fill me with woe. So many solves and you just wont show.

Comment by VanZ

193 NE solves and no trinket. Wowhead gods, help me, please!

Comment by huskyetha

415 nelf solves and still nothing - honestly some of you guys are pure lucky getting it with less than 200 nelf solves.

Comment by Andorihl

204 nelf solves and nothing. Been at 6/7 rare's the last 100 solves.
Started gathering and solving 500 fragments a go, 'cause one at a time was depressing.

Wtb some luck.

Edit: 235 and counting, still nothing.

Comment by jam111794

Posting hoping the wowhead gods will let me get this trinket

Comment by itshobson

im at roughly 120-130 NE solves post-525 just hoping it will pop on my next 200 frags ugh... what a pain been at it 50+ hours in past 3-4 days... all one long annoying blur
almost annoying i can find fragments from a red light now at most of these dig sites, should never get to this point

Comment by Adarik

What? 10000?

Comment by Stalkyr

As a boomkin in lunar eclipse and with every +spell damage & +arcane damage up, I can do 8492 arcane damage out of 4200 mana restore. (Can go higher with more mastery)

Comment by Chaele

235 solves and counting. Also, six tol'vir jars without the recipe. I am the worst archaeologist ever!

ETA: ... wow, 250 solves and it finally shows up. Whine and ye shall receive, apparently. (Please don't. That's always awkward.)

Comment by hoofquake

Recently went over 300 NE solves without this trinket and decided to quit Archeology. Seems there are some people who have ridiculously good luck (under 100 solves) and some who have horrifyingly bad luck (over 300 solves).

To all of you complaining about how terrible it is not having gotten this when you're at about 150 solves--perhaps read first how worse off other people have it.

In any case, Archeology as a profession is mind-numbing with zero guarantee of getting the extremely useful items (aside from Ring of the Boy Emperor, which seems to be pretty easy to get). I would recommend you instead go grind for gold and buy the near equivalent pieces on the AH. In this case, the Tsunami card is the only 359 trinket option if you're a healer--but it's a great alternative. Grinding for gold via primary professions may take time, but at least you know you'll get something at the end of it.

Chasing this trinket is like playing the lottery, but instead of paying with money, you pay with hours upon hours upon hours of your life. It's a lose-lose unless you're one of the rare few who beat the odds. Take it from someone who's been to hell and back with this profession. Stop now before you feel too invested.

Comment by Pheehp

450 NElf solves after 450skill, no trinket - this will ruin your life dont start.

Comment by Icewave

I dont wana spoil anyone's hope here...but i've been digging up to 275 artifacts solved for Night elves...and I havent got the doll yet. So dont lose heart if you still dont have it! 2 Guildies of mine got it at around ~~100 artifacts solved. Talk about unluckiness for me!

So keep diging peeps, and hold your hopes high! Sooner or later will come!

Comment by Icewave

Finnally? 100 solves? and thats a big grind? -_-" u lucky guy! stop complaiining lol, some others are on 275 ;) which is almost 3x time u invested!

Comment by Morwo

Total artifacts
Night Elfs:476

And no found doll yet, i has a sad.

Comment by itshobson

keep at it boys, was solving today Ring of the boy emporer popped for tolvir, threw on "things are lookin' up" by Classified, started solving the 200-300 NE frags i saved and boom theres my doll and a crapton of relief

150-170 NE commons solved before it happened, it'll happen

Comment by docz

I know a lot of druids farm this, so just a few tips which made this faster for me, but some tips applicable for everyone:

1. Farm Kalimdor - higher NE drop rate.
2. Set hearth for somewhere mid continent.
3. Use your Moonglade port.
4. Use a method to return to Stormwind (like guild cloak) and then enter Uldum portal.
5. Use misc port methods (Tol Barad tabard, misc...)

With these methods you can dramatically reduce the time flying around the continent by porting to a location which is closer to the active nodes. Helped for me at least.

Good hunting!

P.S. I see many posts complaining about the brutal grind. This process is really not designed to be powered out. You can also just grab a few nodes here and there - excellent thing to do when waiting for a heroic/BG queue. What's the rush? Much more "enjoyable" if you don't try to power it out in a few sittings.

Comment by Mekuri

222 night elf solves.. still going strong... Dual monitor and over 4 seasons of smallville down... /sigh

Comment by xjudder

Just got this on my 194th solve, just as I was loosing all will to live. Search youtube i've put a vid up called "Solving Tyrande's Favorite Doll"

Comment by kaitlyyn

I would come on here to see how many digs it took others to get this trinket, so I figured I'd post mine! (Just discovered within the last 2 minutes. I seriously jumped for joy.)

118th NE solve, and my last NE rare. SO glad I'm within the "average" bracket here for players usually getting this from their 100-150th NE solve.

Comment by Sha11e

I've done like 200 artifacts now.
This is getting boring...

I have all the Nelf rares besides the trinket, which I really want.
Why won't it spawn =(

Comment by Andorihl

250 now, gone over to the point where I've stopped hoping for it and just do arch for fun while watching 2 seasons of Leverage : D

That and I've got about 5k worth of greys in my bank for patchday.

Comment by JadeofLSkull

Just got the plans for it today, will be my 125 solve when its done.
Yesterday I grinded up to 1k fragments in one day....didn't get it then...
Today I only gathered 124 fragments out of bordom and on my last solve befor reaching zero fragment it Q'd up as my next solve. What a mind screw this profession is.....

Comment by Notes0814

I think that this trinket only comes after you get the achivment for 10 rares.

i had every single nightelf rare (except trinket), both fossil rare and even the tol'vir mount which makes 9 and i had a dwarf rare queued up but never got it since i stayed mostly in kalimdor.. for the last 5 days (10+ Hours a day) i did this.. and still no trinket or even duplicate rare so i did what everyone else did.. complain in guild (which 4 people have the trinket.) and they all told me they did not get the trinket till they got the achivment for 10 rares.. so i thought to myself fine im going go back to eastern kingdoms and finish off this dwarf rare.. so i did and got achivement than i quickly went back to kalimdor and after a few sites solved my current nightelf artifact and boom! trinket.

i could be totally wrong but that seem to help..

Comment by ttbloodlusttt

So far what I see is:

It does not require lvl 85 to discover.
It does not require 525 max arch to discover.

Personally, my priest is over 300 NE solves. I discovered the Ring of the Boy Emperor very early on, at about 12 Tol'vir solves and 115 NE solves. Since then I have farmed a solid 3k+ since worth the fragments in Kalimdor and have not discovered another 359 item. I even switched to outlands and northrend out of boredom before going back. was at about 14 rares on my achieve counter when I stopped. Btw I got my recipe in my first canopic jar, betting you dont even see this recpie unless you are an alch, possibly 450 skill or higher, after that the jars just give you a gray item.

I gave up on my priest and picked up Arch on my shammy. I plan to only solve NE frags so i dont accidentally discover a 359 item from another race. It looks to me like once you discover a 359 item it resets your chance to discover the next. Here's to crossing my fingers, hopefully this works. Even with the patch this shouldnt be hard to accomplish since most the digs on Kalimdor are NE and fossil

/sigh - heres to hoping!

Comment by trivium80

update* 434 nightelf common and no trinket .!

Comment by ttbloodlusttt

I have a theory. This Theory feels like a theme. I've seen so far it work twice.

***Here it goes. I think you can lvl arch, solve whatever factions you want, get the rares. In this case farm Kalimdor. I suggest getting as close to 450 as possible or maxing out and not training up to 525 yet. The reason I say this is because it tacks on Hyjal and Uldum digsites.

***Get to 450 and then farm your NE frags back to full 200 frags. Do this as many times as you want to increase your chances for this trinket. Then when you get tired of not lvling, train to 525 cap and start solving again. However, do not solve anything that isn't fossil or NightElf. Reason being, you don't want to accidentally discover that annoying Tol'vir ring. I highly doubt dwarf or troll would give you a discovery w/o discovering the blues but don't chance it.

***I say to do this because I have lvl'd Arch on two toons so far. I did this because on my priest I discovered the Ring of the Boy Emperor. After that I farmed probably 3k fragments and solved every race inc NightElf. NONE of the races gave me another 359 epic yet.

***After reading all the responses it's hard not to see the obvious pattern forming. Shortly after hitting 525 Arch, with a little determination, you will discover a ilvl 359 epic probably w/in 100 solves (guessing, it feels fast if you do arch a lot)

***So I decided to lvl Arch on my Shaman because after reading the comments here it looked to me that once you discover the first ilvl 359 epic it resets your chances to discover the next 359 epic. I don't believe it's random with it comes to 359 epics. For blues and epics under ilvl 359 you can discover and solve multiple blues/epics at a time. But I'd say you will never discover another 359 epic while having previous 359 in queue unless you did a lot of farming and ignored that race (maybe).

***So, on my shammy, I lvl'd my arch how i previously stated. Once i got to 525 I ONLY solved fossil (fossil is a nice buffer since you only discover greys after the raptor) and Nightelf. I managed to solve my raptor for fossil and by 525 I had been already 6/7 for NightElf rares. So it was just a matter of time. To be honest... I wish I had done this on my priest. I didn't do much digging since, maybe less than 2k fragments and tonight I finally discovered the trinket.

Here are my #'s:

Priest:
Dwarf: 13
NightElf: 246 (discovered my first 359 epic when NE was around 117)
Troll: 34
Tol'vir: 39 (discovered my first 359 (the ring) when Tol'vir was around 12)
Fossil: 88
Draenei: 17
Orc: 18
Valkyr: 4
Nerubian: 2

Shaman:
Dwarf: 1
NightElf: 77 (discovered trinket at 76)
Troll: 8
Tol'vir: 4
Fossil: 20
Draenei: 0
Orc: 0
Valkyr: 0
Nerubian: 0

I am going to do this on another toon. Lvl arch from 1 -525 and try for the 2h sword. It might seem like WTF NO WAI not lvling arch again. Let me just say, lvling arch on a new toon after discovering your first epic is faster than grinding the same toon to the next epic. At least that's what I'd say and stick with. When I do this, I will report back here my findings for my 3rd toon.

This is just my opinion based on what I've personally seen. There is no way I could know for certain unless I could test it on multiple toons which I plan to do. So, don't flame me that 'This isn't how it works' because I am not saying any of this is certain, just an inkling.

Thanks for reading.

Comment by walash

326 NE solves, still nothing. Had 6/7 NE rares before 56 solves. Have had 4 Tol'vir rares since then, go figure.

Comment by Andorihl

To the ones who say "it resets" when you get an 85 rare. That doesnt make any sense when I see the people on my realm with the tol'vir ring, the tol'vir staff and the nelf trinket. All within 200 nelf artifacts. I made a ticket about the trinket 3 days ago asking (as I'm 10 artifacts off 300) if there was any chance I'd been grinding with a less chance on it. Answer was no, 's random. Allthough the guy wished he could proc it for me xD

Ohwell, 10 artifacts left to prove that friend I won't get it before 300.

Comment by Caithy

Still dont got it... 250 ne solves right now...
But i only got 8/10 rare artefacts now.... could this be the problem?
help me pls, before i farm some days more -.-

Comment by wordpuzzel

got this today finally ! 109 night elf fragments and a giant headache , but it was all worth it in the end ... now for that tol'vir staff .

Comment by Twinmold20

Finally got this yesterday after roughly a week of grinding a few hours everyday, it was my 70th night elf artifact (many of those were before 450 skill though) and I already had all the other rares. As an arcane mage this trinket fits perfectly into the playstyle and it seems to benefit from arcane mastery as I hit for over 5000 with it. I have bound it together with arcane explosion in a macro. All in all an awesome and interesting trinket.

Comment by Sibrina

I've a sneaking suspicion they increased the 'drop rate' on this trinket. I got mine on my 230th NE artifact, and someone else in guild got it shortly after me (within the hour) at 162 artifacts.

Comment by Withersere

Just started farming for this on an alt and wanted to add some information here. There was a question regarding whether or not this could be obtained before reaching character level 85 that was unanswered on this page.

Using Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds as an analogue... There are comments on the item page by Agrotarion indicating that multiple people have acquired the sword before 525 Arch or level 85. This would stand to reason that this too can be acquired before hitting those caps.

Wish me luck... Gonna go back to grinding this now. <3

Comment by Assyrian

112 NE Commons

6/7 Rares

Just got the doll to queue. Very exciting!

Now the long (I'm assuming) grind for the Tol'vir caster staff.

Keep at it!

Comment by Tammin

Got this as my 259th Night Elf solve, my final Nelf rare, and my 460th artifact overall. Man, what a rare indeed!

The buff you gain is called Recaptured Mana. The tooltip will change to reflect your mana gain as you heal: "X mana captured." Once you reach 4200 mana, it'll cap. The buff does not expire, so you can run around with it stored up at your own leisure. (Partners nicely with Holy Nova for the Critter Kill Squad priests out there, if nothing else.)

Note: when using trinket, I found it helpful to stand on a mage so the unnecessary, constant, irritating and noisy arcane explosion-type animation was attributed to their apparent fat-fingering noobishness and not a CD happy healer.

Comment by Sancture

Okey, so I'm finally on my way to get this one.

I've got:

6 rares.
18 commons.
Skill, 525.

39/150 at the moment, will recieve it soon, I hope. :)

Comment by Mazeman

Well, I promised myself I would post here when I got it, and I just did. 76th NE solve, 140ish total! What a crazy grind.

Comment by Mend

Finally got this after approx. 95 NE solves and well over 300 total solves. I have almost all the rares from the Dwarves, Tol'vir and Night Elves..Initial tests look promising for this holy paladin, we'll see if it was worth the month of farming.

Like most people, I hate "Use" trinks, I'll probably macro this to one Holy Light so I dont have to remember to click it in the heat of battle.

Comment by Vellus

at 168 commons, still no trinket. About to give up. Have got absolutely good rares (Sword, Staff, Mount etc.) yet. Archaeology hates me!

Comment by Servasus

As of Patch 4.0.6, Holy Shock does proc the mana store from this trinket. I got this today after only about 3 days farming for it. 8th rare overall. I got pretty lucky I'm seeing from all the comments. Either way, this is wonderful for holy paladins. Just be careful not to pull aggro or break cc's with it. :)

Comment by huskyetha

339 night elf solves and still nothing this is so ridiculous i allocate 2-4hrs a day towards looking for this item so i wont go mad with the frustration.

This may be the only thing that makes me quit world of warcraft as it seems that by the time i see this in my bags i will be kitted out in epics from Heroic 25 man raid instances and will have no use for this on my main or even my alts :(

Comment by beldenpaul

This profession is majorly flawed, to base rares off of RNGing is just idiotic. No other profession uses this in its design, basically its all luck to get what your aiming for, RNG is utter failure. For those of you that are healers aiming to get this you can rep grind Hellscream's Reach and get a Tsunami card, the trinket from Hellscream's isn't as good but at least your effort is defiantly rewarded unlike a RNG system that does not reward your effort, unless you happen to get lucky or you dedicate away your social life. Next time use a different system blizz, I dunno a vendor that I can turn in my fragments/artifacts to and receive a reward for the effort....maybe even require rep for the higher level items, at least you know for a fact you get the reward you want instead of hoping. Hell even farming for gold to buy the epics is guaranteed reward, RNG equals big time failure! Also I think the dig site system is very bad, why would I want to go to other dig sites if I am interested in NE only or any other faction for that matter, you don't see archaeologist's wanting to discover Egyptian history going to dig in Antarctica (unless they know there is a connection), next time lay off the fluoride blizzard. Having to dig up other race fragments, just to get the race I prefers dig site to pop is nonsense.

Comment by nancylol

81 NE commons, 6/7 rares and it popped up for me. Very exciting to see that icon appear on the screen! It will also be my 10th rare. :)

I know my number is relatively low compared to most other people here but I will say that I really think it would be a lot less stressful to just work on arch sparingly (perhaps waiting for a queue, raid invite, an hour here and there if you get bored) than to keep grinding. That's what I did after getting bored to death from non stop grinding at 60-70 commons in. After all, you have to remember that it's pure RNG - you have just as much chance getting it in between a arenas/bg queue as you do into the 10th hour of a mind-numbing grind.

I am disappointed that I did not get the Tol'vir caster ring along the way (stupid useless scarab pendant) but I can't really complain. Good luck to you all!

And since you will be getting Tol'vir sites while farming for this trink, might as well keep an eye out for the rare grey camel mount in Uldum - here is the macro I used.

/tar Mysterious Camel
/cast Survey

NPCscan should also detect it, but it doesn't hurt or slow you down to use the macro. :)

Comment by TheDj

I'm over 361 Nightelf solves and no trinket. This random system is ridiculous. If I had lucky I would play poker in real not WoW :)

Comment by devsop

Im at 6/7 NE rares and 97 solves. No trinket yet but ill forge ahead. Also, im only at 9/10 rares for the achievement. Ill post here if I ever get this thing to update.

Comment by Goheels

172 NE artifacts completed, no trinket, this is ridiculous...

Comment by gisshan1

510 NE solves without getting the trinket. This is complete and utter BS.

Update: 600 NE solves without the trinket.
Update #2: Finally showed up as my 695th NE solve.

Comment by ForReal

Been farming for this like 24/7 for a week now, think I'm gonna do few more solves tonight and that would be it.. Gz for everyone who got it and gl to to everyone still farming it. Its a pain

Comment by jahf

My trink just proc'ed. 16 rares done (no sword, no staves). No clue how many solves I've done total but it sure FEELS like a ton.

edit: I had all of the other Nelf rares before this proc'ed and did 53 common Nelf solves. Total solves for all artifacts is around the 450 mark.

Comment by Calmseer

Let me clear some things up.

A few days ago this trinket proc'ed for my husband. My husband plays a Death Knight and has not a single mana-using character anywhere on his account.

Some facts about my husband's proc:

- It was his 3rd rare. You do not need to have the "10 Rares / Associate Professor" achievement to get this.
- It was his first Night Elf rare. You do not need to have 6/7 Night Elf rares to get this.
- He had less than a dozen Night Elf commons. You do not need to have a high number of Night Elf commons to get this.

My husband had ground from 1 - 525 Archaeology skill largely on Dwarf and Troll fragments, looking for Zin'Rokh --- the latter did not proc for him in spite of using ~1400 Troll fragments in search of it.

Or in other words, the RNG is a cruel, capricious mistress.

Happy farming; I'm still doing the same.

Comment by TheDj

Finally I got it after 398 NE solves...I just can't believe it :)

Comment by ForReal

Damn.. I was thinking maybe you need more then 50% of total rares witch is 26 to have more chance of getting it. but seems it aint the case. anyways good luck

Comment by ForReal

Ok here is the deal. You say its all RNG I say no its not. For example you would say that its RNG on how many primal airs do air elementals drop back in tbc, but I say no its not, I've discovered this back then that if you interupt the elemental all of his spells he always drops 3. Now that you know this you can chose to trust me on this one, or don't.

I know for sure that blizzard has certain patterns or equations for archeology. For example how you survey or where you do it, this would mean that you can get it as your 1st rare if you find those spots, or as your 600th if you don't, so this way it seems like its RNG but its not. Have you seen Blizzard eqation for calculating how much arena points you get depending on your rating back in wotlk or tbc? If you did you would know what I'm talking about, these guys leave nothing to case and nothing is random eventho it seems that way, they are very smart and you should know that they have a whole team of scientist working with them on the game design - this was in several game magasins.

Ok now let me proceed, I'm not sure on the factors which calculate your chance on getting a rare like this, but the for mount, sword, staff, this trinket etc, there are not very few. which means you would spend the same amount of time trying your chances just digging as you would spend caclulating or finding these factors.

Now I have a theory which includes which rare in a row is one item, for example if by calculations Tyrande's Favorite Doll is not ment to be your 16th rare you could probably spend few weeks digging for it. Now they had to make Professor title possible (20 rares) which brings us here which are certain rares - 3 from dwarves, 6 Night elf, 2 draenei, 1 Vrikul, 1 orc, 2 fossils, 2 Tol'vir (ring and scarab pendant) and lets say both from Nerubian archeology. this would mean that having maxed our rares (eventho i think one of the nerubians is as hard to find as the doll) you still need one more for the title, now this one has the same value for all of the remaining ones, mount, pet, both staves, doll, sword. Knowing this your are certain that you are gonna find one but I think it matters which rare its gonna be. Now since you've spent 520 night elf solves on 15 rares total I would recommend trying to find one random, for example draenei if you dont have it or vrykul axe, and try your luck as having 16 rares total, I say luck becuase I've just mentioned that your probably gonna have even harder time trying to find out which are the factors. I think you have nothing to lose, let me know how it goes and GL to everyone.

Comment by Sectaftw

please everyone stop whining already :<
i just got it on my 327th solve... got the feeling i farmed it for weeks...
dont give up ^^

Comment by draenen

This is either one heck of a troll or the work of somebody with way too much time on their hands, but let me just say this:

There are essentially two possible ways loot for archeology (or for anything else in-game, really) works. Either:

1. Blizzard came up with a horrendously complicated set of conditionals and if/then statements to decide in what order and under what circumstances a particular item will queue for you to solve for absolutely no reason.

or

2. they fed the loot into a table, assigned percentages to each drop, and went and made a sandwich.

There is absolutely nothing to be gained by doing it the first way when using the game's RNG is a fraction of the work and lets the devs get on with more important things.

It's tempting to assign logic to randomness; it's human nature, really. But no matter how hard you try to shoehorn it into a logical system, at the end of the day you're pulling patterns out of the ether. "Random loot isn't random even if it seems that way" has a corollary - Random loot is random no matter how hard to try to make it not.

Comment by ForReal

This is either a very stupid response or the guy whos trying to make himself smart. If you did just a little research of the world you are living you would know that no machine can generate numbers in random order, thus every line of numbers generated by a machine is followed by a certain pattern and that same machine can see and tell you exactly which pattern it is, the only randomness is hiden in living beings, humans for example, and the only random number is pi, considering it has no end and there is no pattern in it, its the number on which the whole world is built. Now I was just trying to help a guy who has wasted a lot of his time and didn't get his reward for it by explaining my theory. you are off.

Comment by ForReal

@ draenen
This is either a very stupid response or the guy whos trying to make himself smart. If you did just a little research of the world you are living you would know that no machine can generate numbers in random order, thus every line of numbers generated by a machine is followed by a certain pattern and that same machine can see and tell you exactly which pattern it is, the only randomness is hiden in living beings, humans for example, and the only random number is pi, considering it has no end and there is no pattern in it, its the number on which the whole world is built. Now I was just trying to help a guy who has wasted a lot of his time and didn't get his reward for it by explaining my theory. you are off.

Comment by xrxobbie

UGH, im around 200 solves and no luck yet, hopeing the WoW head gods will hear my prayers and get me this trinket on my next solve like they have others!

Comment by vendetta1987

Been grinding this off and on for 2 weeks now, and I've got to say it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the the stupid fossil dig sites. Maybe it's just bad luck on my part but that's all I seem to get.

Comment by AkaraBWR

Just had this trinket proc for me. Its what I've been going for this whole time, along with the ring and staff from the Tol' Vir... needless to say i was very excited to see it finally drop :D

I'm at 525 Archaeology with 10 rares; 6 of those being all the other Night Elf rares.
And with 48 total Night Elf common finds, and a %^&* ton of other commons from everything else lol
So yes be prepared to dig ALOT for this, but this is a very nice trinket for casters and my holy priest :D

Good luck to all you other diggers!

Comment by BishamPriory

Seeing these comments makes me sad. People getting this after 400 NE solves. I just got this item, and actually, I don't care about gear at all. I was just leveling to 525 and at 520 I finished (what I thought would be my last NE project) and I got this. Have around 80 solves totally, 4 rares.

Comment by Andorihl

Just picked this grind up again. Starting back up from 300 nelf artifacts :3 Would like to see it within the next 100.

Comment by beldenpaul

pretty much draenen, whats sad is when they try to apply logic when they fail to use any themselves. Plenty of people of reported having few rares, hardly any achievements, and just looking within all the comments you can see if there is any sort of pattern, its random. I even tried using logic thinking maybe I needed at least 1 of each race discovered and like an idiot I didn't look on the first page, which has a screenshot of someone getting this trinket without having 1 discovery in each race.

Comment by Yerbury

I very much doubt that you would advocate the system you've suggested if this trinket had dropped for you more readily.

Further, basing rares off RNGing isn't idiotic at all. It is, in fact, entirely in line with 'real world' archaeology, where nothing is guaranteed and luck is as relevant as science and strategy when unearthing a significant find.

It is terrific to have a profession that challenges us. Too much of this game is now spoon-fed, and to have something where perseverance and good fortune can (not will) eventually reward you with something that few others have is part of the charm and mystique.

If you don't like the way archaeology is set up, try something else. There is plenty of good gear out there with better percentages.

Comment by Maiqua

It seems like I find all the rares I'm not looking for XC (128th nelf artifact) Got this while farming Vial of the Sands receipe. Since my warlock rarely goes oom I would've liked some other kind of use/chance ability for this trinket...

Comment by flyingfig

I'm rather curious about how early people are getting to 6/7. Being fairly new to the grind myself, I'm wondering if having gotten to 6/7 in 42 Night Elf solves is at all meaningful. Guess at the very least all of the 150 fragment sinks are over with.

Comment by Hoofarted

Took the trinket after 94 solves. Ez &*!@. Need the ring now
Total artifacts solved
Dwarf: 4
Fossil: 20
Night Elf: 52
Tol'vir: 7
Troll: 11

RNG is fine. People always complain about everything in this game.

Comment by Cathelwin

160 solves after 6/7 and 450. Still no doll...

Edit: Up to 220 solves and still no luck. Though I have managed to get the mount from Tol'Vir.

Edit2: Just broke 300 NE solves. Got the Tol'Vir ring, yet the doll eludes me. Blizzard, you fail hard.

Comment by coolkiddo

Got mine after 141 solves and it sure did feel great when I saw what was about to become my next NE solve! Good luck to everyone else out there and to all of you who are past 200 solves; please accept my condolences.

Comment by escudo

504 n811 solves ... check
837 solves total ... check
no doll ... check

update: finaly i got the doll, after 541 solves
i got it on my deathknight, i think that class has an build in luck-factor .. the doll appears after 140 solves, while my druid still have nothing, after 400 solves
the deathknight also got 3 tol'vir rare (incl staff), with 10 tol'vir solves total
@BoRdo it took me more than 5 weeks of grinding (about 4-8h/day)

Comment by beldenpaul

I very much doubt that you would advocate the system you've suggested if this trinket had dropped for you more readily.

That is speculation, I may or may not.

Further, basing rares off RNGing isn't idiotic at all. It is, in fact, entirely in line with 'real world' archaeology, where nothing is guaranteed and luck is as relevant as science and strategy when unearthing a significant find.

Games don't need to be based off 'real world', if that is the case, there is so much we need to change with the game, wouldn't you say? Furthermore I'm pretty sure people have unearthed significant finds with the help of others in their field, wouldn't that kinda be like what I presented........

It is terrific to have a profession that challenges us. Too much of this game is now spoon-fed, and to have something where perseverance and good fortune can (not will) eventually reward you with something that few others have is part of the charm and mystique.

I have said it many times before, I have NO problem at all with making things take perseverance and fortune. Either do it all the way around the game or don't do it at all. Epics and Rares should be far more scarce then they are, but what do you know everyone has several epics, I have an issue when its only subject to a small amount of content.

If you don't like the way archaeology is set up, try something else. There is plenty of good gear out there with better percentages.

I only pointed out what I believed to be flaws.

Comment by BoRdo

Seems that blizzard have run out of ideas on how to make game more exciting. Archeology is one uber example on endless Grind you have to go through.
It is nice that they have made those Bind On Account 359 iLVL`s but time you have to spend on getting them is way to long.
I have started to grind for trinket but reading some comments it seems i will stop doing so.
Lets count a bit. Some lucky fellaz get this trinket in 120 solves. With 310% speed flying mount and descent luck on digsites it takes ~ 20-25 mins to solve one common artifact. it makes 50hrs gametime to get it if you are really lucky.
Lets see the last comment before me. 837 solves and no Doll. ~348hrs of nonstop grind and still nothing?
Ok lets say he got really lucky and all digsites where close to each other. so 10mins on solving each it is still ~150hr of gametime and not even getting it...
Kinda sad.
When i first heard about archeology and those items you can get there i was so excited. Finally something new and nice to combine with exploring, but now i realize it is too boring and time consuming.

Comment by Yerbury

Sorry, but your comments are riddled with inaccuracies.

First, you state that the profession shouldn't be linked with 'real world' examples as it is a game. Yet, in your original post you drew a perfectly clear analogy between WoW archaeology and members of the 'real world' profession. Does "...you don't see archaeologist's wanting to discover Egyptian history going to dig in Antarctica (unless they know there is a connection)..." ring a bell? Making the link and then criticizing me for following your lead is just silly.

Further, your comment "...Furthermore I'm pretty sure people have unearthed significant finds with the help of others in their field, wouldn't that kinda be like what I presented........" is nothing to do with the discussion at hand, and nothing whatsoever to do with your original post. You were complaining about the fact that you can't get the items you want by simply accumulating enough credits (e.g. points) and handing them in. Your subsequent comment was/is entirely irrelevant to the subject matter of your original complaint.

As for this:- "I have said it many times before, I have NO problem at all with making things take perseverance and fortune. Either do it all the way around the game or don't do it at all. Epics and Rares should be far more scarce then they are, but what do you know everyone has several epics, I have an issue when its only subject to a small amount of content...."

I call your bluff on this one. Your comment makes no sense at all. The fact that the game makes many of its aspects so easy would have you embracing the few challenging, RNG portions of WoW all the more readily, if in fact you are being honest about your approach to matters requiring perseverance and fortune. On the basis of your first post, however, I can only infer that you DO in fact have a problem with making things that take perseverance and fortune, because that is exactly what your first post was all about.

You clearly have a problem with the profession, and that is your right. However, I have replied to you solely on the basis that your subsequent remarks do not accurately represent your original stance, and you weren't therefore being fair in your response. Bottom line: if you are going to complain, have the bottle to back up your original argument, rather than twisting things around to better suit a subsequent discussion.

Comment by tobindax

According to Rawr this is blatantly incorrect. It fairs below several 346 for fire mages. I don't know if some obscure classes benefit from it but it does not benefit several dps casters period. (compared to several 346 items)

Comment by beldenpaul

In fact I used two 'real word' examples that meshed with 'ingame' examples. Also my retort showed both sides of the coin, but funny enough a troll would take advantage of the objective response and attempt to alter the perception.

Further, your comment "...Furthermore I'm pretty sure people have unearthed significant finds with the help of others in their field, wouldn't that kinda be like what I presented........" is nothing to do with the discussion at hand, and nothing whatsoever to do with your original post. You were complaining about the fact that you can't get the items you want by simply accumulating enough credits (e.g. points) and handing them in. Your subsequent comment was/is entirely irrelevant to the subject matter of your original complaint.

stop pretending to be smart and pull your head from your ass, criticizing and complaining are two completely different things. I pointed to flaws and gave examples that were both 'real world' and 'ingame', I would love to see bosses RNGing gray vendor loot for 900 tries before you saw any epics or get lucky with the first down and get epic(s) drop, but sadly that is not the case they ALWAYS drop epics.

As for this:- "I have said it many times before, I have NO problem at all with making things take perseverance and fortune. Either do it all the way around the game or don't do it at all. Epics and Rares should be far more scarce then they are, but what do you know everyone has several epics, I have an issue when its only subject to a small amount of content...."

I call your bluff on this one. Your comment makes no sense at all. The fact that the game makes many of its aspects so easy would have you embracing the few challenging, RNG portions of WoW all the more readily, if in fact you are being honest about your approach to matters requiring perseverance and fortune. On the basis of your first post, however, I can only infer that you DO in fact have a problem with making things that take perseverance and fortune, because that is exactly what your first post was all about.

Don't be a troll out to flame people and search before you make an ass of yourself. How am I bluffing? I'm saying stop being a hypocrite and make rares and epics scarce or don't, but if your going to do it then do it to every legendary/epic/rare in game and not a select few.

You clearly have a problem with the profession, and that is your right. However, I have replied to you solely on the basis that your subsequent remarks do not accurately represent your original stance, and you weren't therefore being fair in your response. Bottom line: if you are going to complain, have the bottle to back up your original argument, rather than twisting things around to better.

Do you see anything in game work similar to archaeology cause I would love to see bosses drop more vendor grey's and less epics/rares/lengendary loot, even if you downed that boss 900 times and still didn't see 1 epic/rare that would be fine by me, but the game is NOT like that. So why is it like that with a small portion of content? you want to look like a hypocrite? As i have been saying (all you had to do is search my posts and you could have found them, but you just rather look like another troll out to flame people), make all epics and rares fit there definition, hell make legendaries one per server I could give a crap less, do it all the way around or don't do it at all.

Comment by beyto

250+ solves in night elf but still no trinket . damned rng :@

Comment by Yerbury

Is this always the way you deal with people who question your stance on things? Name-calling and abuse?

Clearly having a rational debate with you is too much to ask. Have a nice day.

Comment by arthas28zp

I'm wondering now honestly if it has more to do with your iLev than it does with your number of artifacts or archeology skill level. It queued rather quickly for me after I hit 345 iLev (coincidence?)

Comment by Talvias

Please stop posting the number of solves you have done. Yes, it's a VERY low chance to drop, yes we know you are frustrated, but, after looking through 150+ comments that basically say the exact same thing, I find I need to slam my head against the wall a couple of times. Don't be a pain in the rear and post the 151st "I've solved x Night Elf artifacts and no doll".

Edit: Not sure why people are downrating this. It's the truth. I guess you can't handle the truth.

Comment by Ovahealz

RNG hates me, I have around 150 NE solves and no trinket. :( I also need 2 more rares for the Professor title. Im thinking of giving up :/

Comment by allblack

It queued as Nelf solve # 274 for me. I had 6/7 Nelf rares.

Comment by Mercrucio

I have to say that I am very disappointed in Blizzard for the randomness associated with obtaining this trinket.

I am a massive advocate of useful items in WoW requiring a high amount of personal effort to obtain. It creates a sense of achievement and makes you value that item.

However, what we're seeing with this item is some players having to invest an unfair amount of time in order to obtain an item which will become obsolete in the coming months (trivium80 on 14-Feb-11, 6/7 NE rares, 298 common NE solves and no doll).

Of course I don't expect people to get this item after 1 or 2 solves. What I do expect though is for there to be some sort of mechanic which says "Ok, I can see you've been really unlucky. You've solved 200 NE commons and you've still not obtained the last rare. For every common you solve past 200, you'll get a 0.25% increased chance to get the last rare."

This would ensure that players invest an acceptable amount of time solving. A few may get lucky and discover all the rares early than others. For those who don't have as much luck, it means there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Comment by inshead

I just got this as my 111 Night Elf solve. I was trying to get the staff but this is definitely an awesome addition.

These were my curent solve numbers at the time of spawn:

Dwarf - 2
Fossil - 45
Night Elf - 110
Nerubian - 1
Tol'Vir - 22
Troll - 21
Vrykul - 4

With a total of 205 solves.

Comment by onad

I was one of the lucky ones...only took me around 125 NE solves (prolly around 175-200 total solves) to get this trinket.

Two pieces of advice for those still working on theirs:

1. Stay in Kalimdor

2. Highborne Scroll. Just suck it up and buy these off the auction house. Made my grind go a lot faster than it could have gone.

Comment by Scourgething

Let us send it back to her... piece by piece.

Comment by Exhorder

Procced as my... 397th Night Elf solve while mostly farming Tol'Vir.

Dwarf: 27/27, 3/4 — 41 total
Draenei: 7/8, 2/2 — 9 total
Fossil: 12/12, 2/2 — 137 total
Night Elf: 18/18, 7/7 — 397 total
Nerubian: 5/7, 0/2 — 5 total
Orc: 9/9, 1/1 — 10 total
Tol'vir: 7/7, 3/6 — 108 total
Troll: 14/14, 0/1 — 93 total
Vrykul: 5/5, 0/1 — 7 total

Comment by lrhughes

this totally sucks! I have been trying for this for weeks. Have 205 commons solved. UG!

Comment by littlemonster

I 'ain't sayin' she's a fragment digger, but she 'ain't messin' with no broke... professor?

Comment by ttanker1

5/6 Night Elf rares

308 NE completed.

All of you posting <308 NE completed, i have no pity for you.

Comment by exola

Bah i have done 90 Ne solves,and still no trinkett -.-Wowhead god give me a trinkett solve soon!

An now im on my 130solved still no damn trinkett -.- fml and F%¤K blizz!

170 NE solved still no trink. =/

Comment by SubparNova

Queued mine as my 238th solve
It is my 7th NE rare

Comment by Fallium

I give blizzard credit for coming up with new ways to piss us off and make a game feel more like work instead of play. This trinket is driving me nuts, i envy everyone who gets this trinket.

Comment by Narathen

Dwarf - 21 solves: 2 rares (Pet + Dancing Dorfs)
Draenei - 0
Fossil - 55 solves: 2 rares (All)
Night elf - 120 solves: 7 rares (All)
Nerubian - 0
Orc - 0
Tol'vir - 41 solves- 2 rares (Ring and Scarab)
Troll - 36 solves - 0 rares
Vrykul 0

Got this at 119 night elf solved. At the moment I'm grinding for the AQ mount, and doing night elf to help get my Professor title. Hang in there and keep going. Night elf is definitely easier than Tol'vir, but can be just as much frustrating.

Comment by lrhughes

253 NE artifacts and no doll! I want my mommy! This sucks!

Comment by imute247

Calling on the Wowhead gods to grant me this trinket...

Comment by crellec

I got this as my next artifact on my 58th NE artifact pop. I was farming troll sites for Zin'rokh in EK and only getting NE fragments from a site every now and then. Guess the RNG decided to make up for the 100+ troll artifacts without a Zin'rokh.

Comment by huskyetha

402 and still nothing even posting here wont help so just a note to say that RNG is bad when you want something badly enough to drive you insane. At the current rate of 2-3hrs a day looking for this I may get it in about 3months time

Comment by Homeguard

I pray to whichever gods people prayed to and then got this trinket.
140 NE solves and no luck, about to spend 200 fragments and if I still don't get it I'm abandoning archaeology for a loooong time.

Edit: I actually got it rofl... Whooping nonstop, neighbours must have thought I was going nuts.
Total artifacts
Dwarf: 7
Fossil: 52
Night Elf: 148
Tol'vir: 35
Troll: 18

Comment by Seplo

Okay. So I've read these comments and a lot of them I've seen said "As soon as I whine and complain I get the artifact." Well here is my plea, I've spent several days on this artifact, abundant amounts of common night elves. As well as all the rares but the latter, so Wowhead gods pity me and give me this damn artifact.

Comment by Anodia

been farming this thing none stop for 4 weeks still nothing :S. Please help :P.

Comment by Harrod

Posting here to pray to the wowhead gods to have pity on me and have it finally drop ! I'm at 150+ NE artifacts and still nothing ! This is becoming more and more frustrating everytime I complete a new one :(

Comment by exola

i envy all that have alrdy solved this trinkett ! this is the last thing i want from archeology://

Comment by Seplo

Hi guys. After completing my 140th common it appeared, I'm about to get started on it. I can't tell you all how excited I am, but good luck to you guys. Oh and of course thank you Wowhead gods!

Comment by runNEOrun

Just in case there is any truth in people getting the trinket after posting. I have one of every caster class so this would be very helpful. So please grant it to me!

These were my current solve numbers:

Dwarf: 30 (rare: 3 solved 36)
Draenei: 10 (rare: 2 solved 19)
Fossil: 14 (rare: 2 solved 52)
Night Elf: 24 (rare: 6 solved 119)
Nerubian: 8 (rare: 1 solved 11)
Orc: 10 (rare: 1 solved 16)
Tol'vir: 9 (rare: 2 solved 13)
Troll: 14 (rare: 0 solved 66)
Vrykul: 6 (rare: 1 solved 33)

Comment by angelgabriel

Wow, finally got this project as my 367th NElf solve. It's been a long grind, and I had actually given up a few weeks back and stopped doing archaeology after the Jar of Ancient Remedies dropped for me off of Maloriak. But today, I had nothing else to do, so I decided to dig a little. Just before I quit, I got this to proc. Needless to say, the Jar is being put on the shelf.

Comment by Thedankness

Posting in the hopes that my next solve is the doll, suicide is starting to look better than this @#$%...

Comment by Evelynia

It's amazing how RNG can do the strangest things to the most logical people. Now, let us all gather and pray, to the deities of Wowhead, Elune, and beyond. Best of luck to all looking for this. Let us, (read: me) be blessed!

Comment by waterboy161

Seeing everyone praying to the Wowhead Gods for this glorious item, I myself would like to make a post, hoping that it would increase my chances on receiving it. I have been doing archaeology for a quite some time and I wish to get this item as it would greatly improve my current equipement status. Im currently at 119 NE solves. I am also seeing people with 350+ NE solves without the doll, and so I am wishing for them to find happiness soon in this doll before they go mad :P Please Wowhead Gods grant me and others this magnificent item. Thanks :)

Comment by neuroxin

I finished all of the other rares before 100 NE solves were completed. Reading the comments of people who have gotten over 300 solves and still no doll had me very disheartened. I told myself "Well if that's what it takes". I went three days doing nothing but Kalimdor Archaeology and still no doll.

I have an average ilevel of 354 but one of my trinkets is the an ilevel 325 quest blue. I won't take anything but an Intellect trinket and none of the Heroic dungeon options would drop for me. I refused to spend my valuable VP on the Core of Ripeness if the Doll was an option.

Today I logged in where I had fallen asleep last night, over one of the NE dig sites in Felwood. I did my three artifacts and checked my total fragments. 46/45. I tried to decide whether to go do my daily dungeon and TB dailies or continue Arching. I decided I didn't have the fortitude for more Archaeology disappointment. Normally, I wait until I have almost 200 fragments before doing NE solves. This time I decided to go ahead and do just this one solve.

And the doll popped up next. 195 solves in. I'm still kind of in shock. I did not expect this at all.

Comment by SadisticPretzel

For those collecting solve data, I got mine as the 205th solve.

Something I've noticed...All the big things I've ground for (Recipe, Mount, this) proc'd when I was distracted while clicking "Solve." Maybe RNGesus doesn't like people who pay attention?

Comment by lphomiej

Got this on my 144th solve on NE, after I'd already gotten all the other rares.

Comment by Aralith

9th NE solve. 84th overall solve.

Comment by nickman1991

it seems to be working so this is me...praying to the gods of wowhead. goodluck to everyone in their hunt, and goodluck to me =D

Comment by slinkywink

I got this today after 5 days of doing archeology with the intention to obtain this trinket. My total count: 63 NE solves, with this trinket being the last NE rare solve. My thoughts on this...yes it's RNG and while you can't control that, you can control some aspects of the hunt.

- Farm only in Kalimdor because it appears 3/4 of the dig sites are NE sites.
- Focus on just NE solves. The key is to open up as many rares as possible as quickly as possible.
- If Highborne scrolls drop for you as much as they did for me, use them up whenever possible to cut down on the grind time. I didn't care if I needed just a few more frags to get to a solve. If I had a scroll, I used it. Anything to open up the next solve faster.
- Try not to solve any non-NE ones. Save up all the other frags (fossil/troll/dwarf/tol'vir) as much as possible (unless you're also going for Tol'Vir in which case you can solve those too as they come along). Obviously, the 200 limit will get in the way at some point so solve those ONLY when needed, and only just enough to make room for more of those frags.

Think of the it as a process of elimination. Once you've solved a rare, it can't be solved again. If you're lucky, you get the doll as one of your first rares. If not, cycle through the rares one by one and you'll eventually get it. The key is to focus solely on NE solves. That's how I did it anyway.

Comment by Nalrah

Currently at 166 solves. Got all the rares except for the doll. Good luck for everyone out there and I hope the WoWhead gods will hear our cries and nerdrages soon. ;o

Comment by Andorihl

Dropped this grind about a month ago after hitting 300 artifacts without the doll. 200+ of those on 6/7 rares. Started again as my alt would benefit from it and it's still a tiny upgrade for my main. 314 and going :)

Comment by sTyLnK

RNG was mean to me. I ended up getting this after 345.

Comment by mimeee

237 night elf solves so far and still no doll. Got the 6 other rares in the first 50.

/sigh

Comment by Andorihl

Reading through forums and the comments on this page made it seem like most people proc this as their next solve around 80-120 nelf artifacts. I can only assume I have no luck what so ever then. 325 and no sight of it. x3

Comment by puzzlesphere

Just got it as 184th Night Elf Solve. What a relief!

Dwarf: 5
Fossil: 54
Night Elf: 184
Tol'vir: 34
Troll: 23

... but 4 Canopic Jars and no recipe: Vial of the Sands.

Good luck to all on the archeology grind!

Comment by snifs

Got it after 90 NE solves as my 7th NE rare.

Good luck

Comment by Latvietis

Yestertday, i was at 20 solves NE, i started 9h grind without BG/HC. So after 76solve, trinket poped.

Gl :)

Comment by salavaster

After 325 NE solves finally got this. Started at 50 NE solves at 450 skill level

Comment by Fusoya

317 Night Elf Solves, and I've FINALLY gotten my trinket. IT EXISTS!

Comment by Dowjones

Every time I solve a project only for the project I just solved to spawn, I die a little inside.

Necklace with Elune Pendant and Cloak Clasp with Antlers, please jump off of a bridge into a volcano.

Comment by chiqq

http://i56.tinypic.com/29381mf.jpg

Shows how good this trinket realy are for a arcane mage.
Does not trigger any global CD either.

// Chiqq

Comment by Feranoa

Found this as my 54th nelf solve at maxed archealogy. Had found most rares except the druid/priest fountain of knowledge (so you don't have to find all rares to get the doll!) Not trying to brag, just providing information that will hopefully help! This proves that it really is down to pure dumb luck!

Personally, my two cents worth on the doll after a friend of mine helped me with the Math:
It's not that much difference from other 359 trinkets with base int and mana regen capabilities. Just a slight improvement with about 500-600 more mana per min PROVIDED you can execute a near perfect doll activation rotation the moment the CD is up. (This is comparing it to my Darkmoon Card Tsunami usage)

Whether you go hardcore or casual on archealogy for this, keep your expectations low. If you're getting it for practical use, DMC Tsunami is better. Otherwise, get it just for bragging rights. The uberness of this trinket is the bind on account status which allows you to empower your alts.

Important thing to note: the arcane explosion that comes with it is a liability. It could potentially break CC if you are positioned incorrectly. Hope this helps!

Comment by Mususses

Well I am about ready to give up on this stupid freaking trinket. i have been archologizing for the past 4 days straight, for 18 hours a day. this trinket has obnoxiously been a waste of time. I understand it is a rare epic, but come on blizzard, make it possible for I'd to get the gear, so we can all go back to raiding and pvp, or whatever people have fun doing on this game. This is my last ditch effort, please wow and wowhead gods, please let me get this trinket soon, preferably before my raid on thursday.

Begging for mercy,
mususses
A player teetering on going insane over this trinket.

Comment by Alfador

After ZILLIONS of solves, I get this trinket... pity I don't have a leveled mage character, and am in fact trying for the Tol'vir rares. Betcha every mage who's still grinding for this got all the Tol'vir sites they could ever want, and all the rares they didn't want, already. >.< RNG, why do you torment us so?

Comment by Johnsnoww

I have only been doing the Kalmidor arch and I agree with hating the fossil arch, its just filler and there are so many of them. I am actually writing for the good luck of getting the doll from posting. :)

Comment by harmonize

Praying to the RNGesus for a drop.
I've been working hard, its been a test, i've completed ever other artifact, ever other rare, please, give me my doll so that i may heal those that will cry when you are mean to them.

Please, i beg of you.

Comment by Shri

well, it's seems to work for most other posters, so I have come to beg on here. I've been grinding for about 3 weeks with now luck, have all other NE rares, as well as the Tol'vir. I really need this trinket...so I beg no for all to see. No more pride. Hopefully, it will proc soon. I agree with the other users, each time it doesn't come up, I die a little more knowing it is back to flying all over that god forsaken continent. My god I hate Ungoro.

On a side note, why won't Blizz let us pick the digsites we want to look for. change how they pop up, but if we want to focus solely on NE, let us! Fossil are driving me insane!

Comment by eefertank

While I love the int on this and storing 20% of my mana use seems very helpful, I wonder about the aggro impact of the AOE damage from this as a resto druid. Especially in those encounters where you need to stack to avoid massive AOE damage I would think that using this might cause enough damage to mobs to pull aggro, since I seem to pull aggro sometimes anyway. I have only had it for a little while and haven't really noticed anything, but does anyone else have any experience with aggro from this?

Comment by Ahtomatahn

Dear GM's,
I pray thee take pity and mercy on poor little me. This trinket seems to be more elusive than the +5 fishing line i gave up on after over 200 dailies. I have become an animal of anxiety do to the neverending grind this trinket has caused me to go into...i feel as tho i am in a downward spiral and i cannot stop it until i have been vindicated with the acquisition of this epic crafted trinket. Please hear my prayer. Amen

Comment by Ahtomatahn

It seems my prayer was deleted...though i saw nothing any more pathetic about it than some other posts. I even noted that i had never obtained the +5 fishing line after over 200 fishing dailies...maybe its a character flaw and certain characters are not meant to get certain items...or the rng is really stacked against certain characters and it takes alot longer than most other toons to get.

Comment by ZSBolt4

Here I am as well. Please wowhead gods... shine down on me and provide with this bounty.

Comment by Setrah

The captcha text for this message was "flying octopus", that proves that the dumb RNG would rather give me a flying octopus than this doll...
I have a lock, a holy pala, a balance drood and a mage... so I said: "Why buy four Darkmoon Cards when I can get the doll?" And the RNG answered me: "Ha. Ha. Ha. GL with that."

Comment by Gigiantwalker

Over 340 Solves with 6/7 rears and still no f***ing doll

Comment by VanderRednav

What an incredibly frustrating trinket to find. Granted, I do enjoy making at least 500g on Tol'vir trinkets in the AH, and feeling like a boss one-shotting lowly mobs, but I'm still finding it hard to believe that I've yet to make this solve.

But like anything worth having, you need to work for it. In this sense, time is the victim. Unless you are one of the lucky ones, this will require a lot of grinding. A lot.

I've been looking for this trink for my holy pally. TFD, along with the Tsunami Darkmoon card is the BiS trinket pairing. For someone who is a main healer in a progression guild, any improvement will go a long way with raiding content. I just hope I can get my hands on this bad boy (girl?) prior to patch 4.2. Crazy to think that this might be a possibility, but at the rate I have been going, I wouldn't be surprised.

So for all that is holy (paladin) may this mother-trucker drop for me, wowhead gods. I understand the importance of keeping players engaged through these grinding activities, but the longer I spending flying around Kalimdor, the less I want to do anything else in game, other than /cry myself to sleep in the SW inn.

Comment by Reixes

Oh crap, I hope I don't have to wait until 200+ solves to get this. Seeing how people have gone up to 400 solves without getting it is a little daunting...

Comment by sslaziodk

You guys think you have it bad, watch this and listen to this guy nearly bursting out in tears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k63OXWzL_Oo

Comment by xqophx

I got all the other rare night elf items before I got this one, and then for weeks, nothing. I was only farming in Kalimdor, and my method was to farm all the points until they were all in Uldum, do everything in Uldum, and then repeat. I would solve every eligible piece at the time it became available, not save them until 200.

After a while all I kept getting were grey artifacts. I moved to Eastern Kingdoms and farmed there until I got a rare artifact from something else, once that was solved I moved back to Kalimdor, farmed night elf pieces until I got to 200 and bam, 4th artifact in.

I think after you get your last artifact in whatever race, change it up and go somewhere else. It seems like it might reset it or something once you get another race's rare item (?)

Comment by Saintvanity

YES! Finally got this today. It showed up on night elf solve 101, but I had a raid and couldn't get it till afterwards. So 102 night elf solves, all the night elf rares (the trinket was the last one), the raptor items, Ring of the Boy Emperor, and about 2000 gold. It only cost a few weeks (off and on farming) of my life and my sanity. I did test it out and I love the mana regen.

Comment by huskyetha

Fossil 12/12 commons 2/2 rares 127 solves
Troll 14/14 commons 2/6 rares 79 solves
Night Elf 18/18 commons 6/7 rares 421 solves and NO **** ****** ***** Tyrande's Favorite Doll

I have watched others create and level characters because they have the trinket and items for casters while i have the characters yet havent got the items - yes i have to say that this is a depressing Profession and probably the only thing that would make me quit the game completely...

People who have this Trinket are very very lucky and for those of us who see no end in sight all i can say is good luck and keep taking the medications that keep you sane and able to spend the hours of searching for virtual items....

Comment by Nite85

I don't know where I was when the lucky charms were being passed out but I must not have been in the kitchen! 215 NE commons and counting and still no doll. So, I'm on my knees praying to the Wow Gods, "may I please have my dolly now?"
update 227 NE commons no doll, going to bed now only to see little shovels in my eyelids!

Update again- Now at 256 and no flippen doll! (NE site spawns has been 1 to 2 or 3 to the Uldum or Tanaris or fossil sites, that is just not right. I can spend an hour down south clearing site after site, finally get some up north and finish them before my 15 min hearth is up!) Still very disappointed and frustrated with this new wonderful profession!

Comment by Nite85

I feel your pain, 470 total commons, of which 216 are NE and 6/7 NE rares and still no doll. I could go my whole life and not see another Scandalous Silk Nightgown! So, your not alone, maybe we need to start a support group! Crazy, desperate wow players that can't find their dolly's!

Comment by dorned

i want to feel the gods of Wowhead 122 solves so far and need some help. I need luck please give that luck wowhead i'm begging you ^^ ( my wow life was unlucky so i think i'll hit 500 solves to get trinket :P)

Comment by cuncussioner

Im at 110 Night elf solves at the moment with all rares found for Night elf race EXCEPT the trinket. Its been 5 days with 6+ hours farming for each day and still nothing. Some luck i have 8-/........

Comment by Jyces

LOL why not...God's of WoWhead, please give me my Doll! I am currently on 220 NE solves. I need help! :P

Edit: Just realized how pathetic/desperate I am...v.v'

Comment by vesoha

Certainly is very random when it drops.

On 2 chars on different servers i have gotten this, first time after 136 solves, and second time after just 24 solves.

136 was a paladin

24 was a warlock

Was actually testing if i could get zin'rokh faster on a char that did not need it since i got the dwarf staff on paladin who had no use, so i thought i might get zin'rokh on my warlock who could not need that. (yeah i know its supposed to be random but your thought wander when you do arch)

Comment by Cileta

Just looted this on my 87th Night Elf solve and it was my 172th total solve.

I had 6/7 Night Elf rares, 4/5 Fossil rares, 3/7 Tol'vir rares, 0/3 Troll rares and 0/4 Dwarven rares discovered when I found this.

I actually discovered (note: discovered, not all are aquired yet) Pterrordax Hatchling, Vial of the Sands, Pendant of the Scarab Storm and Tyrande's Favourite Doll in pretty much the same hour. Must've gotten lucky?

Comment by wizardcho

Today (03.5.2011 dd/m/y) i find this item after 170 solves.
Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/IeEiE.jpg
Addons: Professor and Minimal Archaeology

Comment by Solindius

NE 83 and still working on this Trink. Got Boy Emperor thus far. Not QQ'ing just posting till I solve. Hopefully not at 400 geez.

NE 111
NE 173
NE 200
NE 216 Finally Ran out of Fossils. Still no Doll. Good news is that now there are allot more NE, Troll, TLV art's now.

Comment by huskyetha

Update 453 3rd May no end in sight - now its a case of seeing how many times i can solve and not see this proc on my screeen :(
Update: 460 4th May
Update 470 5th May
Update 480 6th May

Comment by Zepeen

Got it as my 102'th solve. Never thought it'll show up. Sadly, i mostly want it for the possibility to get fewer nelf spawns.

EDIT: After you solve you last night elf rare Kalimdor turns into fossil land. :S I wish that sheild will proc fast for me this is ridiculous already solved over 8 vicious ancient fish.

Comment by Solindius

Dam Huskyetha I thought that 110 NE solves and no trink was terribad. I am curious about one thing though. Have you deleted any of the epics in BE that you made?

Comment by amalteaser

Joining the queue of people still yearning for the doll

180 NE solves so far. 17 rares, not found a single one of the big rares like mount, troll sword or either of the staffs.

Little prayer and fingers crossed, if I get to 250 I think i'll have no choice but to give up.

Comment by Ephram

Hmf..

291 Nelf Solves - got ALL other Nelf rares, got the Tol'Vir mount, sword, Pendant - the fossil pets (yup, both!), mount and amber, the Chalice from Dwarfs (keep in mind I'm only farming Kalimdor which got 1 (or 2?) Dwarven digging spots! I got ....

WHEN WILL I GET IT? -.-

Can't believe I'm still farming it, its outdatet veeery soon, however its still kewl having, which I think is my drive :s..

Comment by Crazyrussian

Funny story I got with this.. been farming this trinket and was at about 150 Night Elf solves and pretty much ragequit. What happened is I thought I would get this so I wouldn't have to blow a ton of money on a Tsunami card. So a few days ago I manned up and bought a Tsunami for 10K. Today, I decided to queue up for some BGs and do archeology between queues. Needles to say, my next find was this trinket.

EDIT: This is most likely a coincidence, but if any of you out there are insane enough to buy a Tsunami and equip it and THEN try farming this....

Also mad respect for all of you who are at a crazy amount of solves.. I jumped ship at a much smaller number then what I'm seeing here.. Good luck.

EDIT2: Been using this while healing raids/heroics, and man it messes things up sometimes. Example would be using the proc and breaking a CC'd mob near me (the radius is HUGE), or pulling random stuff while running ZG/ZA.. somewhat annoying.

Comment by narissel

Made an account to post in hopes I'd get it next, been doing Arch for weeks, have gotten every rare but doll. :(

Comment by Darkvne

I guess i'm a little late for the party here. I started grinding archy about 2 days ago, and level'd to 525 in kalimdor alone. I've gotten all the rares except the doll when it comes to night elf archy. Does anyone know if not having dicovered anything but what is found in kalimdor is a factor? i saw the youtube video of the guy in the hopeless grind, and i noticed he was missing the same archy races as i was. is this a factor at all? I dont even know how many "solves" i have done but i would have expected to get this trinket before i hit 525 (considering i leveled only in kalimdor). I have only been at it about 3 days so maybe i'll get lucky. no other useful epics have dropped either. just a bunch of the useless ones. I'm sure this thing will be better than my darkmoon volcano considering i'm an arcane mage.

Comment by Gamz

I think this item kills your sanity faster than the Nerubian artifacts do! ( Well, this and Zin'Rokh )

Comment by zilverdael

Must be the only one then who's thinking 4,2k mana? bit of a joke.
Gr Heal is 5,5k mana. So it's even less then a healspell ... wooptiedoo ppl! wooptiedoo
make it 10% manapool and you have made me a happy camper! Made it worth the 574839 hours of grindfesting this item

Comment by Crazyrussian

In a 10 minute fight it's 42,000 free mana, or more if you start with a full 4,200 buff. Not sure but I think this trinket is best in slot or very close.

Comment by ttanker1

I feel all your pain. Currently at 498 NE artifacts completed. 6/7 Rare. I've made around 30k gold selling artifacts so far. This is all I do when I don't raid. I set my home point in Feathermoon Stronghold, Feralas while I duel box my friend's mage to teleport me to SW to reach Uldum, Theramore and Mount Hijal digsites.

Being a "The insane" title holder (pre-cata) I haven't had any issues grinding rep, grinding kills for rep, grinding mobs for drop for rep, chain dungeons for rep, pick pocketed thousand of NPC for Ravenholdt rep, spending countless hours farming Blood of Heroes for Shen'dralar rep, but this freaking trinket is really starting to get the best of me.

Only thing that keeps me going is the gold I'm making doing it. I've been able to buy all the new BoA Helms and capes from guild and still make a profit. Thinking on saving to buy me the alchemy mount next funded purely by doing Archeology.

Anyone who hasn't breached 500 Night Elf artifacts completion, I feel no pity for you. Keep grinding. Some of us got it worse then you.

To the rest of you, I wish you don't have the same bad luck, karma or RNG as I'm having. I wouldn't wish this on nobody. I hope you all get it on your next solve. Good luck.

Comment by Daghelth

I feel for everyone that is having trouble obtaining this trinket, I'm at 150 solves and counting, slightly frustrated, but Archy has been on and off for me.

With all the "brilliant" people that work at Blizzard, I'm surprised no one has considered using drop/roll formulas that take the numbers of attempts into consideration. Since this game tracks everything you do, it would be easy to use this information to create more considerate drop rates and rolls for those that have seemingly bad luck.

Example: Currently the chance for this trinket to be your next NE solve = 1% (or whatever this is all acedemical anyway) So for every solve you have the same chance as the one before.

Much better example: Chance for next solve to be rare: 10%, if rare pick from list of rares.

Just wishing example: Chance for item to be next solve = 100% * (number of solves/some predetermined number, use 500 as an example)

In the last example the chance for you to grind infinately and not get the item is gone, while your chance of getting it on your first attempt has dimished to extremely unlikely. As you grind along your chance to get any item increases, instead of remaining constant.

In the end my chance to get the doll is much higher than my chance that someone would take a statistics class and use what they learn.

Good luck everyone!

Comment by wowelderscrolls

But then it would have to have a different effect...

Comment by dutchrend1

Text Wall! *updated 6/14/2011 (705 solves and counting)

I decided that when I reached 400 NE completions w/ no trinket yet I would make a post. From what little I've gathered here it seems once you reach an amount of completions w/ 1 race that equals 4x that of most people's entire completions your desired item will magically proc so long as you complain/give stats here! Now I didn't start keeping track of when I proc'd rares until recently, but I'll provide what little data I do have. (I primarily play a resto druid so of course I got the 2H sword and the shield without effort) Data below is all @525 skill. Also I'm shooting for 100% rare completion, and am 3 from finishing if that tells you how difficult the doll can be to obtain. These are the ones I specifically remember, or have screen shots from recent of the completion macro scroll + arch window open if anyone is still doing anything special w/ data or percentages, etc.

-Tyrande's Favorite Doll - ? 647 and counting (too much time invested to just give up)
-Extinct Turtle Shell - 113 Fossil - Queued after finishing the northrern-most Un'Goro Crater dig site
-Voodoo Figurine - 108 Fossil - Queued iirc in the Hinterlands Fossil dig site.
-Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of Worlds - 102 Troll - Queued after doing the Valley of the Watchers dig site in Tanaris. (was quite surprised)
-Bug mount - 78 Tol'Vir - Can't remember location, but queued while in Tol'Vir
-Ring of the Boy Emporer - 65 Tol'Vir - Queued after doing the dig site at the farms south of the produce/meat vendors.
-Staff of Ammunae - 137 Tol'Vir - Queued after doing the Cursed Landing dig site, and strangely enough, shortly after I made this post.
-Mummified Monkey Paw - 182 Tol'Vir - Queued after doing the pita dig w/ all the beasts at the southern river delta
-Vrykul Drinking Horn - 28 Vrykul - Queued in Voldrune (that was either howling fjord or grizzly hills)
-Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron - 10 Nerubian - Queued after doing the site north of Star's Rest Dragonblight.
*Oddly the drinking horn/puzzle box queued nearly together after I had spent 4 hours prior farming the doll with no luck. Worth mentioning.

**Finishing all rares for other races truly does help! On Kalimdor I barely run in to fossil/troll anymore, but unfortunately it doesn't change the RNG in my favor, it just lets me roll more often. I actually get that lone Dwarf one in Southern Barrens more than troll/fossil if that tells ya how much they get reduced now.

Other than that, I suggest rolling a druid engineer to get your BoAs. I argue that it's faster than a mage's farming ability not only because of the obvious ports, but insta-flight.

I also think that Blizzard makes the final NE rare (doll for most?) the most difficult because you'd pretty much have constant Tol'Vir digs popping up (assuming your done w/ fossil/troll), which gives you more rolls. Could they be that evil?

Next post I'll start a list of helpful things / shortcuts I used while farming Kalimdor.
Good luck & happy hunting!
*edit- added some extra info to the rares listed for the people doing stats/percentages/etc.

Comment by dutchrend1

I didn't forget :). I'm going to type out time savers for you guys that are also tirelessly farming this trinket. 1-15 seconds of time shaved off each dig site turns in to saved minutes, hours, days?, etc. This is by no means a comprehensive guide to Kalimdor farming (*hint hint someone should take the time to make one from all the data out there) but this is just a something I wanted to type between flight paths as I continue to keep farming. Sorry for the pro Druid Engineer bias but some of this stuff is just for those types. Some of this is common sense, others you may not have tried/realized. Scroll towards the bottom for specific digs. Here goes...

Kalimdor--
*Whenever I say auto-flight, I mean auto-run while in the air.

Common Sense Stuff:
Have other activities to perform during flight paths!: Common sense here, but watch movies, listen to music, play other games (or all 3!) during the flight paths. It will help nullify the boredom. Heck, to-do lists for work around the house work too. PS3/360 games are great for this. On PC, try games like the Penumbra/Amnesia series or Portal 1 & 2 to keep you mentally stimulated.

310 Flight? - Without question! This is the single most invaluable time saver in the profession, and if you have to farm as much I do, or go for 100% rare completion, you will make back the gold investment easily from all the 50g-200g commons you farm. If you're like most, you'll have 310 flight from raid achievements or holiday achievements and make gold hand over fist from this profession. The guild perks for flight speed help out in the same way, and those are free. If you are a druid, use your noggin and use swift flight form. Don't ever waste time mounting up. Over time, those cast times add up.

Destination Planning:As you complete a dig site and tap auto-flight towards your exit FP, quickly check your map to make sure a closer dig didn't appear when you completed the current one. IMO don't just fly to the 4 digs that you initially see on your map. Make flight plan adjustments on the fly (no pun intended) quickly before you reach your exit FP so you don't waste 2-5 seconds fumbling around with your map.

Druid: Teleport Moonglade - Use Moonglade/Uldum as your top and bottom extremes, setting your HS to Stormwind to quickly get to Uldum. Use Stonetalon Mountains/Northern Barrens as the cut off point between north/south, as areas below those are prone to have more scattered dig sites and you will end up closer to them when you're working up from Uldum.
**ALSO** when using your teleport, tap your Flight Form (which should be Swift ofc) repeatedly as the cast is ending so you can quickly mouse-turn south and start heading for the Moonglade flight path asap

Druid: Freefall!: Several digsite locations, especially when not using flight paths (some zones it's faster to just fly between) have the option to simply free-fall vs fly at some points. Or some zones you may tap auto-flight and get up for a drink/bio/etc until you're close to next dig within zone (Uldum). Anyway, using Winterspring-->Azshara as an example, when leaving the southern dig site in WS, you can shave off a good 15-20 seconds by free-falling and then popping flight form closer to the ground to continue towards a dig. Hyjal-->Felwood central digsites can be another example.

Engineer ports: This is common sense, use the Tanaris/Winterspring ports every CD and only when you have a dig in that zone (Unless you have no quicker means to get to a nearby dig/zone, like in Outlands, or the northrend portal generator zone locations)

Teleportation Items/Abilities/Guild Perks: All you should really need for Kalimdor specifically is the perk for a 15 minute HS CD, the guild perks for flight speed were mentioned above. If you don't have access to that, there are 3 'shrouds' your guild rep can purchase to get you back to SW but the shortest CD is 2hrs so these are mainly for if you take a wrong portal or similar. There is also a Baradin Bay tabard to port you out there, which can get you back to SW quickly, but again, I believe that has a long CD too. Other than that I believe Shaman have glyphs/abilities, and scribes have scrolls that help get back home quicker. (Mage's ports go without any need for explaining)

Keys/General Digsite Info/other races/when to complete?/character spec:After 4.2, keystones starting dropping like candy and in multiples. (not sure if there's an official confirmation of that) So use them whenever you have them, unless you don't plan to harvest Tol'Vir rares or similar and the keys sell well on your server. As it stands, I end up with more keys than I can even use for Night Elf. At your dig sites, more often than not, travel just a little bit further than you think the dig will appear. Over time, you will realize that you have saved much time by backtracking few times VS stopping short many times. You should also easily start memorizing without effort where to dig @ specific sites. As far as when to complete? As superstitious as people have become with this, it all boils down to RNG, so do whatever feels right to you. Keep in mind that if you complete all the rares for troll & fossil, those digs become scarce and you have many many more digs for Night Elf & Tol'Vir. For character spec, two things. First: Always use a DPS spec while farming especially in zones of your level. Instead of dancing around mobs near a dig, just kill the mob(s) and complete the dig. No sense doing 2-5 digs around a mob when u can perform 1 near its corpse. This is especially true for the 4-5 dig sites that are large, and full of lvl85 mobs. Second: If you can spare the spec, use any sort of movement speed increase talents you can since you will spend a lot of time moving on the ground un-mounted. The gold from commons will pay for your re-specs unless you're changing it everyday with very little farming.

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Now for specific dig sites: (I will keep adding more as I remember them)
*All 'saved times' quoted are estimates. If you need specifics for data collecting, let me know.

Ruins of Feathermoon:Feralas: If you are playing another game, or watching a movie when farming, do this: Instead of manually flying from Feathermoon Stronghold FP, use the dialog option that acts as another flight path to take you to the island. You will still have to manually fly back from it (or portal out, best case), but the flight path direct to the island shaves off at least 45 seconds.

Nazj'Vel:Darkshore: This one is minute, but is indeed shorter. As the only dig site in Darkshore, you'd think to land at the Grove of the Ancients FP nearby. However, you can save about 5-9 seconds by landing at the Blackfathom Deeps flight path in Ashenvale and flying up north to this dig.

Ruins of Eldre'thar: Stonetalon Mountains: For this dig don't bother landing at STM flight paths. Land at Nigel's Point, Desolace and fly northward. This will save you at least 20-30 seconds round trip even if you do have multiple digs in STM.

Continued next post....

Comment by dutchrend1

General Feralas Digs: With the exception of Feathermoon & the 2 digs at and west of Dreamer's Rest, always land at The Tower of Estulan. That will cover the short range of about 4-5 different dig sites. The two that this primarily saves time with VS Dreamer's Rest FP are the 2 Dire Maul dig sites. The reason that the Tower FP is faster is simple: much less vertical flight. The less flying up/down a mountain the better vs the slight incline/decline from the tower landing.

Vir'Naal River Delta:Uldum: This is easily one of the most hated digs. There's very little to save time here, but 3 things can help... fly to a further land mass than you think you need to and back track if needed. Go with 1 of 2 plans for landing: 1- is try to avoid the numerous beasts roaming (the one exception to the common sense rule of just killing) or 2-buff up and kill whatever is in your way. The first choice requires a little bit of agility and landing on the edges of the land pieces or in between pats. The second choice is probably faster because at almost all dig spots you will encounter a roaming beast. If you're a skinner, this area shouldn't be as much of a pain. The other thing worth mentioning is if you have a fast enough computer/connection, you can land + dig + pop flight (if Druid) before the beasts appear on your screen and you initiate combat.

North West of Obelisk of the Moon: Uldum: Another great place for druids to free fall to save time, or even any other class if they can land in the water. Head northwest towards the exit FP and free fall down the temple towards the water. Hit flight form before hitting the water (or mount up once in the water if non-druid) and head towards the exit FP. The less vertical flight time spent the better.

Uldum digs in general: This zone wasn't meant to be simple and quick as it's the only place to obtain Tol'Vir digs atm. You'll often end up with multiple digs at a time in this zone which end up being all the way across the map. Generally, it's going to be best to just kill whatever is in your way, and auto-flight as close to the next dig site as possible then resume control. Other than the big aggro radius on these higher level mobs, there is a lot of vertical flight to slow you down. One other thing about Uldum is for when you have multiple dig sites active, try to knock them out in a manner that will put you closest to one of the 3 flight paths out when you're done if you have digs in other zones in the lower half of Kalimdor. But ofc that would be too convenient, and another dig that's nowhere near a FP out will pop up when u think you are done.

South of Shrine of Aviana: Hyjal: (Druid only) Another pita dig site, but here you get to play with free falling to save some time. I can't remember the exact name of this area but it's the large dig site where Blazewing paths, so sometimes when lucky you'll get his kilt if he's up that generally sells for ~1kg nowadays. Land at Aviana's Shrine and free fall down the cliff to cut off about 20-25 seconds total of vertical flight before you pop back in to flight form. This is another area where you need to decide if you will try to be stealthy, or just kill whatever is in your path. Killing should save you time here since the mobs are Cata starting-zone level.

Azshara dig sites in general: There are 2 pesky dig sites here that unfortunately do not host an ally flight path. You would normally land at Forest Song: Ashenvale and have to auto-flight over to the digs, which is fine, unless you had just completed the central dig site in Hyjal mentioned above or the Southern-most dig site in Winterspring. In those two cases you would just fly straight from there to the Azshara dig sites rather than wasting time getting to a flight path to head to Forest Song. This is pretty common sense though, but still worth mentioning. This is a primary place for a druid to free fall to save time, and if you planned your flight plan right, you'll end up just porting out of the zone rather than flying back out.

Silithus: For the only dig site in Silithus, two things can save time. First, at least in my case, 3/4 of the artifact locations ended up being around the western edge of the dig site, so you may always want to start there. And, when leaving, if you are watching movies or playing other games, just aim straight for the tower at the exit FP and auto-flight it. Careful though because it's not too long of a flight.

That's all I can think of atm, but I will come back and edit in any other ones that I remember or discover as I continue to farm. As always good luck, and happy hunting!

Comment by Chsnutmare

245 completed N Elf artifacts (after completing every other NE available) and still no trinket
*tosses a silver dollar in the fountain of "omg i have paid my digging dues, just give it to me already!"*

Comment by Dorfie

I got this on my 8th Nelf Solve;

Yet Zin'Rokh - 352 solves and NOTHING!

RNG in the backside much blizz :(

Comment by dutchrend1

This RNG business is taxing ;(. I'm half tempted to level archaeology on an alt like a rogue that has zero use for the doll to see if I could get it to queue quicker than the toon I'm almost at 500 NE completes at. Because, on my druid, aside from vanity/mount stuff and a ring, I got all the other race's desirables with no effort, on kalimdor while farming for the doll. I got Zin'rokh and the fossil shield @ 100 or so completions (see above), so I do feel for the people that are working on specific items. But keep at it and good luck! Hope ya get it soon. I'll report back when (if?) I get the doll.. which I feel like is going to be somewhere near 600 completions and the final rare possible.
*edit: still no doll @ 705 completions. (only 3 rares left to obtain across all races, so it's looking like it could be my final one, "if" it queues)

Comment by Botoph

Reached the 200th NE solve mark today and honestly am feeling unsure of whether I can do this much longer. I come here humbly to beg for your blessing, wowhead. Here's my imploration in haiku:

Dear wowhead Goddess,
please grant me doll trinket, for
no more I can dig.

Comment by Zajaza

Just like the people above, im at 125 NE digs. still nothing. please wow gods, either drop it for me, or at least make it obtainable with some reason of hope. TYVM

maybe it works, maybe it doesnt.
Please WoW gods, please. im now at 175 solves for night elf, and still no doll. been at this for over a month now.... there used to be fun things to do, but now all i do is search for this doll. Please, let me get back to having fun.
Thank you.
FOR THE HORDE!

Comment by nikolye123

So screw it i wanted to at least give it a shot, saw people who posted on here about it,

I pray to the wow gods please let me have this trinket, I have done 162 night elf solves, I think its enough pain and suffering i just want the trinket. *pray*

Update - less then a hour after posting this, it came up i didn't believe it at first. However i think its been proven....

Post on here begging the wow gods for something and they will reward you. =D

Comment by Botoph

Thank you, wowhead deity!

I finally got this to pop after the 218th NE solve T_T
That's only 18 solves after my prayer! Thank you!

*I also had a dream last night about getting this trinket... and guess what - after first solve today, it popped! LOL* So guys, dream hard!

Comment by Chrisman1238

Cmon wowhead gods bless me with this trinket like u have to all the others. (seems to be working)

Comment by nopunin10did

50th night elf solve.
4th night elf rare.

Comment by nuazria

Im praying to the wow gods myself...

Comment by buzzpwns

im at 68 nelf solves, still nothing.. praying to rngesus didnt help atm, i hope i will get my trinket soon..

Comment by ttanker1

Funny how you guys starting to pray at 68 NE completed. What about those near 900 NE completed? I don't see them #$%^&ing.

Comment by kalammalkhar

While i haven't grinded this out yet. I'm trying for this dinky trinket yet again. I know how bad others luck has been, and figured i'd give putting a msg on here again a try. Thanks go out to a few people who have recomended addons to use for this stupid doll. I'm currently at 242 nelf solves, and no sign of the trinket. Hoping the wowhead gods will help me on this one. I'll update as i roll along.

270 as fo today. even opened a gm ticket, jsut to see what kind of response i would get. i suggest never ever doing this. got a very rude guy. want too happy about me bugging him apparently. oh well. gonna keep trucking along. tried maxxing out all fragments with all the differnt races. didnt seem to help at all. come wow gods isnt this a little bit beyond punishment. as for all those out there still trying for it. dotn let it beat you. we willg et this thing.

291 solves now. im still going. workin gon the other achieves assoncitaed with acrheology now. not gonna let this thing beat me. hopefully the wow-gods are reading this. maybe ill get lucky and they will take sympathy on me. we should start a club. the devout searches of great rewards. lol. keep up the grind everyone. as you can see, those who stuck it out, do eventually get lucky.

Well now at 299 night elf solves, and ive gotten all the archeology achievements. The wow-gods are still laughing, but i'll have the last laugh. I will have this thing. For the crews out there, still grinding away for this thing. Keep going, don't let the game beat you.

315 no doll. unfortunately wow time is about up and have other things to take care of. for those who have gotten it, gratz to you. as for me gonna spend some time taking care of things, than ill be back on thhunt again.

Comment by Breezyleaf

Wish this worked for me.. I'm currently at 288 NE solves, and no doll. /sigh

Comment by Catriona

They're actually on the worldofwarcraft.com Profession forums, making much longer posts.

Comment by redsunrising15

37 Dwarf
14 Dreanei
90 Fossil
218 Night Elf
13 Nerubian
12 Orc
44 Tol'Vir
76 Troll
25 Vyrkul

Got the doll on my 219th solve!

Comment by kalammalkhar

good job man way to stick it out :)

Comment by Gorgimer

6/7 rares and 120 commons later and it was mine.

Comment by hinakiba

dwarf:1
fossil:18
night elf:68
tol'vir:8
troll:7

doll is next
also have gotten every common artifact already and this is the last rare, dunno if thats relevent or not but enjoy the hunt

Comment by Xavicus

I just found my second doll (Not on same char as previous one ofc) Bleh don't really need it :P

Comment by rapion

I can confirm that you DO NOT need to finish all NE artifacts before Doll.

Got mine after 101 total solves!

Dwarf: 17
Draenei: 6
Fossil: 14
Night Elf: 26 (4/7 before Doll)
Nerubian: 1
Orc: 5
Tol'Vir: 7
Troll: 19
Vrykul: 6

Wish you luck!
Don't give up!

Comment by Diabolic

I hate you Tyrande, I really do.

Comment by Tragik

455 Night Elf solves and still no trinket :( Not sure how much longer I can keep trying but I feel like I've come too far to just give up. Next Tues I'll have the valor points to buy a Core of Ripeness, so if I don't get it by then I think Tyrande can just keep her doll.

Update: Hit 502 Night Elf solves tonight. Guess I have the worst luck ever on obtaining this trinket. I'm buying the valor trinket and giving up on the doll.

Comment by Solindius

Something that I have not seen posted on here I would like to clear up. I am currently

Dwarf:8
Fossil:51
Night Elf: 237
Tol'vir 66
Troll 32

I have found every Fossil epic and uncommon but still get loads of them. I have the Sands Pattern, All of the mounts and Pets, and also the ring. Someone mentioned that once the Doll is found the contentment never proc's NE's anymore. Well if that is true, its certainly not true of Fossil. Either way, Im tossing up a hail mary to the forums in some vain hope this will help me get the doll. Hope this helps someone somehow.

Common Doll!

Comment by Gimmeluv

Ive got the doll while doing arch. on my hunter.Is it possible to get it on more than 1 toon or its limited to 1 doll per account?

Comment by vasur

I just got this and! Ring of the boy emperor within 10 minutes of each other!, it took a whole weekend of arch though I'll happily say im never doing arch again.

Comment by Timesofgrace

"I wake with the wings of morning
To the light of a new day <I must find the doll>
Now my eyes are open

Through the darkest times
I find you
I find you always <you damn doll>

Cover me
With your hands
Make me see
All I am <cause I NEED these purple pixels>

Though I fall
I'm willing <to search for this damn doll>

I could break
Fall back into sorrow <go insane looking for this doll>
Give me life
Make my faith much stronger <I know I will find this doll>
Now my eyes are <Nope! wasn't it>
I find a way
I find a way
I find a way to you" <MY PRECIOUS!>

264 NE solves for me.

Times of Grace - Willing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HFa1PDySrE

Comment by roberthynhyo

Hmm 200 solves and still nothing...i will come with futher news

Comment by dutchrend1

I'll continue to update my count on the previous posts but I had a couple comments and a question.

I'm @705 night elf solves still no luck (1 of 3 rares left of all rares total). Talked to a GM and he confirmed I could potentially farm this with no end. With that in mind, I decided to skillup arch. on a melee alt to give that option a chance. If the digs remain ideal as they have so far, then when I begin Kalimdor on the alt he'll be starting the grind @ 0 solves. I'll update if anything happens with that.

My question is this:
Any of you with similar, or higher numbers of night elf solves (700+).. have any of you finally ended up getting it? And at what number of solves did it finally happen? I'm wondering if after a certain point something bugs out with Arch b/c I've gone nearly 1 month @ 3-6 hours/day with no luck on my final 3 rares. If you have the same scenario, which are you missing? I'm missing the doll, dwarf staff, and tol'vir 1H sword.

EK is terrible for lessening dig sites for completed races, if not non-existant altogether. It's nothing like Kalimdor, which functions as the changes state. For some reason I'm getting more non-Dwarf digs on EK than Dwarf so maybe something really has bugged with my arch. I'll wait to hear about more data and similar scenarios before submitting this bs to blizzard.

Any info helpful, thanks.

Comment by Abnormalninja

This item is not int he game...I have farmed for like 10+ hours straight, and all got is every other NE rare... T.T

Comment by Abnormalninja

I believe that this item is not in the game...

Comment by Xirc

120 solves in 3 days...... 200 solves total >_> and still no trinket this is pissing me off my friend got on the 45th solve >_> please wow head gods help me!

Comment by djarvis530

Got this on solve# 69 :)

Comment by ianbryan744

Popped up after 342 solves.

Edit: Sucks because I don't have any characters that can actually use this.

Comment by LaCrysta

Just checked my Nelf artifacts, naturally this is the only one that's missing.

Comment by fauxpaus

Got one for my 150th total solve. After saying a little prayer to the archeology gods of course! I don't think it matters, but I horded a bunch of fragments and when I hit almost 200 fragments I solved 2 baby artifacts and this one came up (conveniently I had exactly 150/150 fragments left so I didn't have to wait).

Comment by Limez

Just got this, 227 solves---
GG I don't need it anymore.

Comment by christianjlo

Over 400 NE solves and no trinket... I'm so lucky!

Comment by hatenelfdiggs

On digg 135 and no trinket.....Purely luck =(

Comment by leskunk

Useful fact for shamans:

Putting down Totems will give you Recaptured Mana. So instead of spamcasting Healing Wave to get Recaptured mana before a boss, just drop your totems like normal and you will get 1640 mana.

Comment by lolin

Been going after this for days, so far i have 142 solves and this is no where in sight. Hopefully the WoW gods show me some kind of break.

Comment by supravenlord

The doll just queued to be my 438th Night Elf solve

The search for the mount continues

Comment by gordong11

I got this on my 94th night elf solve, and love it/use it. I'm a Fire Mage and it adds just over 1000 spellpower and is great for crowds. My only complaint is that the max hit 4200 per npc, your spellpower is not taken into account. I wear stump of time as my other. I also have darkmoon card: volcano, and mirror of borken images to choose from, but prefer the combo of doll and stump. Volcano is good too but doll's 1000 spellpower is hard to pass up.

Comment by awm12321

Please WoW Gods and Goddesses,
Help me, for looking for this doll is too time consuming!

Comment by athrun66

oh how i loathe you tyrande you and your doll from hell

Comment by Diodor

21st rare, 151st NE. I had holy spec always, 2 days I'm ret/prot and this procs. This is my last NE rare too. Off to grind mount/pet from Tol'vir :|

Comment by Lilyrose1646

Here's what I'm doing while farming the trinket..

If you're a DPS, que for a heroic if you're trying to gear up. Then, do Archaeology while in the que times...

The heroics will serve as a break with the mindnumbing farming.

Or, other options, bg's. Even if those ques are faster than Heroics.

Just a thought! I think the heroics help tbh... Then you can cap valor/justice points..

I wish you all a good day, and good luck farming! <3

Comment by bombflow3r

Hello all,

I just spoke with a GM who confirmed (from an earlier post on here) that there is a chance your character will never see this doll. I honestly think in the time it's taken me to do all of these digs (200+ and counting) that the same amount of time could be put into farming gold to buy a better one.

-Galinae lets out a long, drawn-out sigh-

I can understand that since it's an epic, that it should be a bit of a challenge to find, but spending hour after hour, day after day... The point is, this shouldn't take as much effort as some people are having to put in. I really sympathize with the folks who spent countless hours and days looking for this trinket (and all of the other 359 rares) and are having no luck. It really draws you in, huh? You get to 100 and think "I'm gonna get it any solve now..." Then 200 hits, and you realized you've put so much time into it already, might as well do more. What a consuming, time-wasting profession... I think after every 100 solves you get, the drop chance of the rares should be increased significantly... Like 10% or 20%.

Anyway, that's my emo sob story. Still truckin' though. Good luck to you all, I wish you the best. I would recommend looking at any other options, however, before you ruin the profession and furthermore, the game for yourself. This is supposed to be fun and not mind-numbing right?

-Galinae (Terenas-US)

Comment by xinuxtt

Well 122 post max skill and still unlucky but will keep on grinding..

*Just incase this is my plea to the wowhead gods save my sanity*

Edit

WoW very next combine i got it Thanks WoWhead Gods

Comment by Andorihl

Well it's been a while since I gave up on this trinket after hitting 300 artifacts, I recently picked it up again and have hit 363 without this trinket appearing yet. I can't say it's as bad as others but it certainly is less luck than most :/

Comment by Kylar08

Adding my prayer to the WoWhead gods for this trinket. Time to keep grinding T_T

Comment by Metazare

got this for 4/5 days ago, it was my 150th solve. :D It exists, never give up!

Comment by Petitclerc

Got it today at my 32th (roflmao) solve...

Too bad i'm a Rogue. O;^P

Comment by Shiznittzol

have completed 192 common night elfs . 6 rare... all that is left is the doll. but i am burnt out with this atm. i mean peeps getting it after there 85th dig is stupid. please help me wow!

Comment by Skanz

Almost at 200 solves over a 3 day farm fest. WoWhead Gods please give me my trinket. <3

Comment by huskyetha

Update 2nd September 2011

- i have now done 495 solves
- next post will be when i reach 550 so apart from RNG what else is new
- yes a lot of people in my guild who have Archaeology have got this now so apart from websites saying this is BiS for 4 of my chars
- Nelf solves 490-495 were all Scandalous Silk Nightgown now thats RNG lol
- have also obtained 105 Highborne Scrolls so that isnt too bad if i sold them on AH but i would like to get the Doll first before selling them

I suppose a prayer to the WoWhead and RNG Gods is required.

Comment by Allara

I obtained this as my 105th Night Elf solve, and my 311th total solve.

Comment by Aeles

Almost 100 night elf solves and still no trinket, I dont mind gathering NE pieces, I just hate gathering fossil / tolvir fragments just to unlock NE digsites..
=/

I have the feeling I'll quit soon =s

Comment by Ryudo158

160 Night Elf solves so far, and figured I should do what everyone else has been doing. /pray.

Oh WoWhead Gods, RNG Gods, and all WoW Gods in general, please give me this damned trinket. Amen.

EDIT: Started to give up hope, and got it right after solve 195! THANK YOU WOW GODS! I will never doubt you again.

Comment by Isidore

I want my dollie :(

Comment by Chromell

My efforts trying to find this doll: gather 200 Night Elf fragments, solve everything using keystones whenever you can. No find? Rinse and repeat.

It really is daunting after you solve everything and the trinket hasn't come up but I like the feeling of having multiple solves ahead before having to dig mindlessly through Kalimdor again.

Comment by Erowyne

Sigh...

110 Nelf solves and counting...I now only have rares left to find for most races so it is becoming very discouraging...even when I get a fossil or Tol'vir site their rares are not popping either!

RNG...you are a fickle master!

Comment by tobindax

This is one of the most horrible trinkets an arcane mage can use and it's laughable so many suggest it. Even in the release of Cata. a 346 was supremely superior. Let alone even 359s were easily available.

This is for healers, and lowbie healers at that.

In fact any DPS class is doubtful to care about the 4200 petty mana. Only a healer, and a lowbie at that.

Comment by Bloodylightadin

I don't know why so many people are suggesting that this trinket is out of date, or no longer useful. As a holy pally in a 7/7 non heroic FL guild, this trinket, along with Jaws of Defeat from Majordomo, are my BIS trinkets (again, non heroic). I use a number of different sites to help me determine what gear to use and how to use it, and for all of them, those two are on the top of the list.

Too bad its a pain in the neck to get this doll. Literally. My neck is starting to hurt from having to look up and pray to the WoW gods so often; it would seem they're AFK.

Comment by Aesiria

Can I please, please, please have this trinket soon... or like now? Thanks you!

Comment by TomTheMage

I was lucky enough to acquire this item on solve #194 of Night Elf artifacts having previously acquired all other Night Elf rares. Hope this info helps - the main message is don't give up. You'll get there in the end ;)

Comment by GFK283

If anyone was wondering even after the JoTP change this trinket still has the best Mp5 of all the intellect trinks for Holy Paladins. Jaws of Defeat really depends on what you do during the proc which as a paladin probably isn't much. After the shard of woe nerf I'll probably just keep this until I get the seal and windward heart trinkets out of DS. The deathwing trinket is garbage IMO.

Comment by NeciFiX

I got this within 30 nelf solves while grinding for the Tolvir mount. No luck on the mount but this was one of my first rares. Oh RNG... You cruel mistress.

Comment by Brunpal

This item is a great way to help fake your ilvl to get an alt into more difficult dungeons and LFR. I carry it on my deathknight.

Comment by IceWolfDK

Procced today as my 325th Night Elf solve, im on a roll, had Recipe: Vial of the Sands yesterday, and Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of Worlds the day before that.

Comment by showershead

I got every rare except this :(

Comment by Karae

If you're like me and wondered how people know how many solves they have done without counting each one individually, the below script helps a tonne:

/run print("Total artifacts"); for x=1,9 do local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(x); local a =0; for y=1,c do local t = select(9, GetArtifactInfoByRace(x, y)); a=a+t;end local rn = GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x); if( c > 1 ) then print(rn .. ": " .. a); end end

If it comes up blank, simply open your compelted artifacts tab and quickly scroll thorough them all, then run the script again

Happy hunting :)

Comment by Hawkyyy

I started farming this at the begining of cata, gave up as i was at 160 or so solves and nothing, finally got this today on my 180th solve.

Comment by TeoWowhead

Dwarf:59
Draenei:10
Fossil:133
Night Elf:656
Nerubian:13
Orc:10
Tol'vir:184
Troll:133
Vrykul:48
Total:1246
Obviously this is the only remaining rare in night elf race for me to complete - yet it eludes my grasp.

It seems fitting so I'll just use Lich King's line after killing a player:
"Hope wanes..."

Edit: 56 night elf solves later - it is mine!

Comment by XxiolaA

This is still a great trinket for a healer just staring Cata heroics.... I started doing heroics with it on my resto shaman few days ago and it saved my ass few times when I was oom

Comment by drewd

Finally got the doll on the 344tg NE solve. I feel awful for the guy that had 700. I almost lost my mind...

Now I just need the crawling hand from tol'vir.

How I wish they would do something for unlucky RNG people like me. I don't love a grind, but would prefer to grind with a definite end than go through the soul-crushing process that archeology has become...

Comment by Lolus

353 Nelf solves in 4.3, makes no sense at all

Comment by Kybaelgun

Got this on my 48th night elf one.

Had no idea what it was. I figured it was a blue doll, that did junk like some other rares, until I came here. I guess I mail it to my priest, for when she hits 85.

My second Tolvir solve, first canopic jar, was Vial of the sands.
I've been impatient about not getting the bug mount, but just noticed
I'm only at 8 Tolvir solves.

So far, I've had moderately good arch. luck?

Comment by clickhand

got the doll on my 107th NE solve. It was my last NE rare to complete.

Comment by Lidmo

Oh. My. God. Miracles are INSANE.

Here goes my story of how I manifested Tyrande's Favourite Doll -

Someone on Facebook added me randomly after I posted on someone's status Rollo May's quote, which was "The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice, rather it is conformity."

Then, she posted my quote on her wall, "Luck is for those who need it. Fortune is for those who own it."

And I was SO OVERJOYED at being acknowledged by someone I've never met before!

Did a little impromptu coaching session with my life coach to keep up the energy...

Then decided to play a little WoW. Got DC'ed from Madness of Deathwing on LFR, yet somehow I was still in the raid when they killed DW - ended up getting locked out of the loot >,< So, I decided, screw it - I'll get the title and possibly sword in next weeks raid. Went to do some Archaeology (my aim is the Bug mount!)

First solve - Troll. Unlocks - Voodoo Figurine. (Okay, looks like fun...)

Next solve - Nelf... Switched to the main Arch window as I was solving, as tends to be my habit..

BOOM! Tyrande's Favorite Doll shows up in the queue! http://i.imgur.com/ZsfXj.jpg

Holy. I was just.. Wow. Shellshocked. 122 Nelf solves.

Hmm. That dig unlocked Tol'vir... cmooooon bug mount...

Nah. Ring of the Boy Emperor shows up. Still. 4 rares queued at the same time. http://i.imgur.com/zFFHB.jpg

Oh, and I hope this helps someone - This was what I said at the end of my coaching session.

Releasing Statement For The Day:
I release my need to serve the expectations of others around me.
Affirmation:
I choose now to do whatever it is that I want to do that truly fulfills me and expresses who I really am. So it is.

- Heiko & Selina Niedermeyer

All the best to my fellow Arch hunters... May you be in touch with the Universe's Joy and Love to get the things you want!

Comment by jrdnwow

On my 243rd Night Elf solve right now, still no doll. It's the last night elf rare I need.

Comment by Dust

Working exclusively in Kalimdor, I got this on my 482nd solve--266 of which were Night Elf--while grinding my behind off trying to get the Vial of the Sands recipe.

Comment by elphilipe

Finally got today, 124th night elf solve, 364th in total. last nightelf i needed. still 4 tolvir and the fossil shield to get. good luck-keep diggin!

Comment by ubre

Finally got this after having completed every archeology achievement long ago, I have been trying for bug mount and noticed that I finally got this, here is my list of solves...

Dwarf 33
Draeniei 11
Fossil 67
Night Elf 225
Nerubian 9
Orc 11
Tol'vir 59
Troll 65
Vyrkul 15

Comment by Chillyace

Got it on about 63rd complete this was my last rare i didnt really need it it was a bit better then my other one 365 It was my last rare for nightelf

Comment by Sam97

Maybe it's time to improve damage formula due new MOP patch ?

Perhaps , there should be added scaling with spell power .

Comment by Tomro

Previous archaeology epics based on lvl 60, 70 and 80 epics were made useful by changing their level requirement to be significantly lower. e.g. Headdress of the First Shaman , Nifflevar Bearded Axe , Queen Azshara's Dressing Gown

Is it not time this was done for the lvl 85 ones? Almost all are outclassed by Mists greens now and would never be equipped at 85 (possibly except this, since str/agi/int trinkets are a little harder to come by)

Show us some archaeology love Blizz

Comment by Wendi2

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Comment by Valkyriah

I think this thing is impossible to get. I've done hundreds of solves between toons and have yet to see one on any of them.

Comment by Morman133

120 night elf digs so far got all but this one, don't even want it just want less nelf digs so I can finish tol'vir rares :/

Comment by bagel09

Gah reading some of these comments like "Finally got it after my 120th solve, 70th NE solve and it was about time- I deserved it".

I wisssssssssssssh I could say that but nope, all I can say is no trinket and no mount! YAY!

Total artifacts
Dwarf: 15
Fossil: 152
Night Elf: 569
Orc: 1
Tol'vir: 194
Troll: 56
Vrykul: 1