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Commento di Voxxel

Sold for 500x Moneta Senza Tempo by Mastro Kukuru in the cave located in the Red Stone Run area. With the keys you can open his chests around him. You'll get Moneta Senza Tempo most of the time but there's a chance to win any "close-up" gear, Fardello dell'Eternità, Babbo or other Timeless Isle related stuff aswell.

Commento di Myzvale

==Note: This information was obtained off the PTR, meaning results could differ when 5.4 goes live.==

Here is my data buying 225 Chiave della Cassa di Kukurus and opening various treasure chests around Mastro Kukuru - and remember the size, type or colour of the chest has no effect on what it will contain.

1 Timeless Coin - 1 (And yes just 1 dropped, Here's a screenshot.
50 Timeless Coin - 4
100 Timeless Coin - 10
150 Timeless Coin - 16
200 Timeless Coin - 15
250 Timeless Coin - 21
300 Timeless Coin - 18
350 Timeless Coin - 25
400 Timeless Coin - 29
450 Timeless Coin - 20
500 Timeless Coin - 15
550 Timeless Coin - 10
600 Timeless Coin - 9
650 Timeless Coin - 7
700 Timeless Coin - 1
750 Timeless Coin - 2
800 Timeless Coin - 1
950 Timeless Coin (!) - 1
Timeless Armor pieces e.g Guardaspalle di Maglia Senza Tempo - 14
Fardello dell'Eternità - 3
Babbo - 2

As you see, currently it's not worth it buying these keys as they are 500 Timeless Coins each unless you're farming for the pet or some gear - as the average payout for one coins seems to be 100-150 coins lower than the cost of the key. Also it's highly likely that the maximum number of coins a chest can contain is higher than 950, I just wasn't lucky enough.

Commento di 197370

Updated Information:
Patch 5.4 Hotfixes: September 12
Reduced the chance for Burden of Eternity to drop from Kukuru's Caches.

I have collected enough coins now to do a decent post nerf sampling. I spent 102k coins on September 17th reinvesting any coins into more keys as before and found the following:

564 Timeless Chests looted
======================
69 (12.23%) Timeless gear tokens
4 (0.70%) Babbo
3 (0.53%) Fardello dell'Eternità (34k avg coin investment)

Note: I also spent ~33k coins around the time of the hotfix and got no burdens but 2x bonkers at that time. If it was post nerf then that would raise my average coin investment per burden up to 45k coins. It is still very unclear whether it is worth gambling for burdens or not, but as long as it stays under 50k investment per burden then it is worth it to get all the extra gear tokens and bonkers if you don't have 3x already if you don't mind gambling.

Old Information:
With the PTR ending I found myself with tons of coins and not much to do with them so I decided to research Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru sold by Mastro Kukuru for 500 Moneta Senza Tempo which open various Timeless Chests around him.

Starting with 163500 coins and reinvesting any coins looted from the chests into more keys I found out the follow:

935 Timeless Chests looted
======================
~~13 (1.39%) Fardello dell'Eternità (12576 avg coin investment)~~
12 (1.28%) Babbo
87 (9.30%) Timeless gear tokens
823 (88.02%) refunded Moneta Senza Tempo

Chests usually give 50-1000 coins but has rare chance of 1 coin (~1%) and even rarer chance of 10,000 coins (0.1%?). They always have only one thing in them, either one piece of loot or coins.
72.66% avg coin refund if you were to get no other type of loot
63.96% avg coin refund factoring in other loot

~~Buying keys to open chests results in ~4x as many Fardello dell'Eternità than buying them for 50k coins from Teurga del Misticismo Ai does.~~

Commento di Silvansaria

Looking at the numbers - I would wait until AFTER you get the 100K mount because otherwise - this is all worthless if your gear is already pretty good... I got a companion pet from the nests, a Burden of Eternity from the Ordos epic chest, and the rares drop burdens too...

Just a distraction to spend your coins on and make it harder to save up for the mount. Get the mount FIRST - then do all this random crap...

Commento di ixnorp

Data from is from Live Servers.

57 keys spent:
19,000 coins gained (~333 coins returned per key)
4 armor tokens
1 bonkers

Commento di adro930

Ok. I went from 20k coins to 0 and this is what i got. I also spent all the coins i got from the chests, so i was at it for a while.

About 5 gear tokens.
1 Burden.
3 bonkers.

I would say it was worth it.

UPDATE 13.09.13

Spent about 50k coins altogether. (Including the ones a get back from the chests. So actually closer to 80k)

Gotten 3 Burdens in total and tons of tokens (but not the only one i now need which is is mail helm!)

Don't even think about spending 50k on a Burden.

Commento di 1144590

17500 coins netted me:

88 Keys (going back for more keys with the coins I found in chests, total key value: 44000)
10 Random Timeless Armor Pieces
3 Timeless Signet
1 Timeless Curio
1 Burden of Eternity
1 Bonkers

When you read the statistics for drops in chests, remember you get coins back to keep investing.

Commento di hiramloram

I wanted to see if I would be lucky enough to get a Fardello dell'Eternità via this method and pay less than the 50,000 timeless coins needed for vendor purchase. I was encouraged by the other comments on this board. I kept buying keys and opening chests until I got one.

I didn't keep track of how many keys I bought, I just checked my total number of coins when I started versus the number left after I got what I wanted.

When the Burden of Eternity dropped, I had 10,000 fewer coins than when I started. I also had a number of Timeless gear tokens (enough so that I lost count of the exact total because I wasn't paying attention) and Babbo x 4.

So, I'm happy I gave this a chance. If you're reading this and undecided about trying it out, I suggest doing it now instead of waiting. The early rates of return mentioned in these posts may indicate the long-term drop rates blizz intended - but I wouldn't be surprised if a nerf came in.

Commento di 1032972

i have seen one of the chests drop - 10,000 coins.
personally i have gotten Babbo (bonkers)x4
quite a few pieces of gear
and a depleting amount of coins.
overall, very worth it. 10,000 is probably rare, but is a nice thing to think about.

Commento di NickBrahz

Bought 32 Kukuru's Cache Key for 16,000 Timeless Coins, here are the results:

1. 300 Timeless Coins.
2. 300 Timeless Coins.
3. 550 Timeless Coins.
4. 600 Timeless Coins.
5. 350 Timeless Coins.
6. 150 Timeless Coins.
7. 300 Timeless Coins.
8. 500 Timeless Coins.
9. 450 Timeless Coins.
10. 250 Timeless Coins.
11. 250 Timeless Coins.
12. Timeless Mail Boots
13. 250 Timeless Coins.
14. 150 Timeless Coins.
15. 400 Timeless Coins.
16. 350 Timeless Coins.
17. 450 Timeless Coins.
18. 400 Timeless Coins.
19. 250 Timeless Coins.
20. 850 Timeless Coins.
21. 150 Timeless Coins.
22. 400 Timeless Coins.
23. 100 Timeless Coins.
24. Timeless Plate Boots
25. 400 Timeless Coins.
26. 450 Timeless Coins.
27. 250 Timeless Coins.
28. 350 Timeless Coins.
29. 400 Timeless Coins.
30. 300 Timeless Coins.
31. 450 Timeless Coins.
32. 300 Timeless Coins.

Results from 32 Kukuru's Cache Key:

9850 x Timeless Coins
1 x Timeless Mail Boots
1 x Timeless Plate Boots

Bought 22 Kukuru's Cache Key for 1,000 Timeless Coins, here are the results:

1. Bonkers
2. 350 Timeless Coins.
3. 400 Timeless Coins.
4. 500 Timeless Coins..
5. 400 Timeless Coins.
6. Timeless Curio
7. 450 Timeless Coins.
8. Timeless Leather Chestpiece
9. 500 Timeless Coins.
10. 500 Timeless Coins.
11. 450 Timeless Coins.
12. 450 Timeless Coins.
13. 350 Timeless Coins.
14. Timeless Cloth Belt
15. Timeless Plate Spaulders
16. 150 Timeless Coins.
17. 400 Timeless Coins.
18. 550 Timeless Coins.
19. 150 Timeless Coins.
20. 400 Timeless Coins.
21. 250 Timeless Coins.
22. 450 Timeless Coins.

Results from 22 Kukuru's Cache Key:

6300 x Timeless Coins
1 x Bonkers
1 x Timeless Curio
1 x Timeless Leather Chestpiece
1 x Timeless Cloth Belt
1 x Timeless Plate Spaulders

Bought 13 Kukuru's Cache Key for 6500 Timeless Coins, here are the results:

1. 400 Timeless Coins.
2. 300 Timeless Coins.
3. 400 Timeless Coins.
4. 400 Timeless Coins.
5. 300 Timeless Coins.
6. 500 Timeless Coins.
7. 350 Timeless Coins.
8. 350 Timeless Coins.
9. 550 Timeless Coins.
10. 450 Timeless Coins.
11. 400 Timeless Coins.
12. 600 Timeless Coins.
13. 500 Timeless Coins.

Results from 13 Kukuru's Cache Key:

5140 x Timeless Coins

Bought 11 Kukuru's Cache Key for 5500 Timeless Coins, here are the results:

1. 450 Timeless Coins.
2. 650 Timeless Coins.
3. 400 Timeless Coins.
4. 700 Timeless Coins.
5. 400 Timeless Coins.
6. 250 Timeless Coins.
7. 1 Timeless Coins.
8. Burden Of Eternity
9. 500 Timeless Coins.
10. 400 Timeless Coins.
11. 150 Timeless Coins.

Results from 11 Kukuru's Cache Key:

3901 x Timeless Coins
1 x Burden Of Eternity

Commento di hiramloram

Check out today's hotfixes - the Burden of Eternity drop rate from the keys has been nerfed.

Commento di 460910

Got Fardello dell'Eternità after about 10 keys. I'll take it!

Commento di 1045586

Please note, I purchased over 75 keys today (9/12/13) on my mage and got 2 more companion pets, 5 boa tokens, more coins which I applied to more keys resulting in the over 75 total keys, and never got a single Burden of Eternity. I don't know if they changed the drop rate from the PTR or the people posting earlier just got luckier than me but, next time I think I will just wait until I have 50k coins for the guarantee.

Commento di nirv

Confirmed they took MORE things away from us as usual (what a shocker)

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/10932273/54_Hotfixes_September_11-9_11_2013

-Reduced the chance for Burdens of Eternity to drop from Kukuru's Caches.

Commento di Serelitz

Reduced the chance for Burdens of Eternity to drop from Kukuru's Caches.

Source

This obviously makes previous live/PTR droprates for burdens irrelevant, and it may or may not be the most efficient way to farm Burdens of Eternity anymore.

Commento di NUDS

The chances of a Burden dropping has definitely been nerfed to the ground. Just opened 79 chests today, got a cloak, two cloth, a leather and a plate token (I'm a mail user) plus Bonkers. I started with 29k coins. It's probably not worth the risk to gamble unless you really want Bonkers.

Commento di 1144944

Guess I got lucky, 20 keys got a bonkers, mail item, though I'm plate, Bonkers, a Burden, and only down 4,000 coins.

Commento di schtinky

POST NERF INFORMATION

Just spent 53010 (original) coins and wanted to share my results:

53010 coins, 106 keys, 10 gear tokens, 0 bonkers, 0 burden
36560 coins, 73 keys, 7 gear tokens, 1 bonkers, 0 burden
22911 coins, 45 keys, 4 gear tokens, 2 bonkers, 0 burden
13562 coins, 27 keys, 7 gear tokens, 0 bonkers, 0 burden
7462 coins, 14 keys, 2 gear tokens, 0 bonkers, 0 burden
5962 coins, 11 keys, 3 gear tokens, 1 bonkers, 0 burden
3362 coins, 6 keys, 0 gear tokens, 0 bonkers, 0 burden
4 keys, 1 gear token, 0 bonkers, 0 burden
3 keys, 0 gear tokens, 0 bonkers, 0 burden

After round 9, I saved a few coins for mogu runes.

Edit: Total coins spent: 144,500
Edit: Total keys used: 289
Coin drop off rate ~33% (retention rate 67%)
Gear drop rate - 11.7% (doesn't appear to favor your current armor class)
Bonkers drop rate 4/289 -- probably 1%
Burden drop rate ? - seems significantly nerfed

Conclusion: My guess is they made it approximately 1 burden for 50000 coins, just like the vendor. They said "no short cuts". You may get a burden after 500 coins or never... it's just the roll of the dice. I have spent upwards of 80k coins over the past few days, 12k or so before the nerf, and gotten zero burdens (aside from some rare drops and the guaranteed rewards) and 7 total Bonkers. Whether you want to take your chances on Kukuru or not is up to you. I, personally, will never try him again. If I see another Bonkers, I will punch a baby in the face.

I'm off to go cry. Hope this helps everyone. UPVOTE so people are aware of the nerfing and these results.

Commento di Maylen

Started with 50k did pretty good when it came to getting coins back, on average got about 400 back each chest that didn't give an item. Received 7 or 8 bonkers (can only have 3), and probably 30-40 items (All worthless to me). Not a single Burden of Eternity, I thought maybe with how everyone else was getting them like crazy i could land 3-6 with 50k instead of just one.... nope a big waste of time (takes over an hour to buy that many chests) now I'm at 0!

Commento di Mirlorn

POST NERF

As I opened chests and got more coins, I reinvested the coins into more keys. Here are my results:

50 Keys
14200 coins
7 Gear tokens
1 Bonkers

28 Keys
8650 Coins
3 Gear tokens
1 Bonkers

18 Keys
6700 Coins
2 Gear tokens

13 Keys
3350 Coins
1 Gear token
1 Bonkers

7 Keys
2600 Coins
1 Gear token

5 Keys
700 Coins
1 Gear token

1 Key
150 Coins

1 Key
450 Coins

1 Key
150 Coins

My overall results are as follows:

124 Keys
36950 Moneta Senza Tempo (Average 298 Coins per chest)
3 Babbo (2.42% chance)
15 Timeless gear tokens (12% chance)

I got 0 Fardello dell'Eternità. My recommendation based on my experience is to save up the 50k and buy one. Forget the chests.

Commento di 1145329

More Post-Nerf Data (9/15/13): Started at 50000 coins, spent recursively (that is, I used any coins rewarded from the chests to open even more chests) down to <500 coins.
Total Chests opened: 256

- 78400 Timeless coins. This is an average of 306.25 coins per chest, so you are effectively losing roughly 200 coins with each chest you open.

- 27 Armor Tokens, so ~10.5% experimental drop rate on tokens

- 2 Bonkers

- 1 Burden of Eternity

Based on this data, along with previous posts, I suspect that spending your 50000 coins to recursively buy chests rather than just buying a Burden of Eternity from the vendor is NOT likely to net you additional Burdens of Eternity; the chance of getting zero seems to be lower than the chance of getting two. However, if you need the pet and/or armor tokens, it may be worth the risk.

Commento di Deadmantis

Guess Im lucky because I didn't know what the key was for, but decided to buy it anyways, got the Burden on my first Chest

Commento di sushibar

How are people getting so many coins? I've been playing the isle since the start, and don't even have 50K yet..

Commento di b14d3r11

I used 51k coins and got this:

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Commento di Lasama

Hi! i wasted some coins but i was happy with the result

1. 34,500 coins, 69 keys, 3 gear tokens, 0 bonkers, 2 burden
2. 25,900 coins, 55 keys, 6 gear tokens, bonkers, 1 burden
3. 15,800 coins, 33 keys, 4 gear tokens, 1 bonkers, 0 burden
4. 10.000 coins, 20 keys, 1 gear tokens, 0 bonkers, 0 burden
5. 6.000 coins - stopped

I think it worth to do that :)
Good luck !

Commento di runtu

Yesterday I got 10.000 coins from a single chest. Twice.

Commento di Zabfromdurotan

Post nerf, I've been getting burdens from these chests at about 70 keys. Gotten 4 burdens between 60 and 78 keys.

Commento di vreemdevince

I'd like to share my results (accumulated after the nerf)

As I was only interested in the amount of coins and burdens (coins to be reinvested in hopes of more burdens), I counted every piece of gear, bonkers AND burdens, as a 0 (and noted the burdens separately). So 0 could be curios, rings, metal braziers, burdens, what have you. So far I have not (yet?) encountered empty chests, I don't expect/hope to either.

amount of coins - count
0 - 22
1 - 1
50 - 6
100 - 13
150 - 13
200 - 18
250 - 11
300 - 27
350 - 27
400 - 23
450 - 15
500 - 16
550 - 10
600 - 7
650 - 4
700 - 1
750 - 3
900 - 1
Out of a grand total of 218 keys.

Burdens of eternity: 1

These 218 keys cost 109000 coins and returned a total of 67551 coins (I summed the amount of all the coin drops and multiplied the amount of drops by 500 to get these numbers).
This gave me a return of about 62%, an average chest content of 309 coins so expect to see 300 and 350 fairly often (deviation: 187,0296 and variance: 34980,08)
The burden drop rate from these results points to 0,46% which isn't very conclusive (the sample is "only" 218 chests) as WoWhead usually gets it's drop rates from several a much, much larger number of kills/chests.

Summing up everyone's results (if people keep posting theirs) would give us more insight in how much a burden would cost in the long run if done through chests.

As to why I didn't keep track of the gear: I heard that the gear that drops has a higher chance of being useful to your current char than to another (cannot validate that though)

Commento di 131064

Some info for those wondering if Kukuru's chests are worth doing for Burdens AFTER the hotfix reducing the chance for Burden's to be in Kukuru's chests. Was NOT worth it for me. I know everyone's experience will be different.

I went in with 55000 coins. Bought as many keys as I could. Everytime I ran out of keys, I bought more until I ran out of coins. Repeated this until I could not buy any more keys. I ended up wiith:

3 Signets
3 Lavaliers
3 Cloaks
22 pieces of assorted armor tokens (cloth, leather, mail, plate)
2 Bonkers
0 Burden of Eternity

Now, I did this on a character that doesn't need Burden gear, and I really needed Lavaliers for alts to use Burden's on, so I don't feel this was a waste. However, if Burdens were my goal, it definitely would have been.

Again, just one player's experience. The Burden drop rates are up to the RNG gods and some people who do what I did may end up with multiple Burdens rather than zero. But as for me, I won't use this method for Burdens next time.

Commento di Smixor

Wanted to share my results as well :)

I bought 100 Keys (50,000 Timeless Coins). In total I ended up with;
13 Gear tokens
1 Bonkers
1 Burden of Eternity
& I made 30,100~ coins back in total.

Happy 'chest-openings' everyone.

____________________________
Edit: In addition I bought 109 extra keys and got 14 Gear tokens + 2 Bonkers, was rather sad, not to see another Burden

Commento di Errapel

Post-nerf datasets.

07 OCT 2013 - 104 chests opened total

Starting investment: 20000 Timeless Coins (40 keys)

32370 Timeless Coins (64 keys)
11 Timeless pieces
3 Bonkers
1 Burden of Eternity

Commento di 843605

Used up my coins on 80 total keys (buying 20 and then less each time till my coins run out)

Misc equipment tokens - 12
Burden of Eternity's - 0

Last Week. 76 keys

Misc equipment - 15
Burden of Eternity's - 0

83 keys today:

Misc tokens - 13
Bonkers - 1
Burden of Eternity's - 0

Anyone know if they took the Burden of Eternity's out of the chests recently? Will just save my keys to buy burdens if that is the case.

Commento di therover9884

MORE POST NERF INFO:

Starting Coins: 120,000
Ending Coins: 32,000
Total Coins Spent: 200,000 (400 Keys)
Net Coins Spent: 88,000 (coins reinvested along the way)

Armor Tokens: 52 (13.0%)
Bonkers: 10 (2.5%)
Burdens: 3 (0.8%)

*Note: I quit immediately after the 3rd Burden dropped since that was all I needed.

Commento di masterc34

Spent around 90,000 coin after the nerf and never got the Fardello dell'Eternità.
while trying to get the Fardello dell'Eternità I got a rare coin amount of 10,000x
So far 10k is the highest i have seen in game and haven't seen anyone post an amount of that amount on wowhead.

hope this info helps for those that like to gamble. who knows maybe you can get 100k ?

Commento di Leonan

I can confirm that Burden of Eternity and Bonkers can still drop i just bought 20 keys and 1 bonkers and burden droped for me. That was pure luck but at last i can confirm its still possible.

Commento di gayfish

Ok, I bought 100 keys that's 50,000 coins! this is what I got.....

3 Burdens
1 bonkers
14 timeless armor

32K coins back bought 64 keys

7 timeless armor

21k coins back, 42 keys

1 timeless

14K, 28 keys

4 timeless armor

8k, 16 keys

1 timeless armor

5.5k, 11 keys

2 timeless armor

3.5k, 7 keys

1 timeless armor

1.5k, 3 keys

1 timeless armor

.5k, 1 key

1 timeless armor

totals....

32 timeless armor, 3 burdens, 1 bonkers. Now I got most of my lvl 90's with burdened timeless armor so now its all about the gold! I have 4 enchanters with each of the armor types. I mail each one the armor that they can create and disenchant into sha crystals. With the guild perk I got 36 sha crystals sells for around 80G each on my server. Bonkers sells to vendor for 25G and the 3 burdens 5G each so my total gold made will be around 2920G. Some may say just buy a timeless armor cache for 7500 timeless coins, well the 50,000 that I started with would only get me 6 timeless armor.

So if your trying to turn your timeless coins into gold then Kukuru's Cache Key is the way to go!

Commento di Uwey

Results From Uwey-Garrosh 11/18/2013

Start: 31161 Moneta Senza Tempo
End: 12561 Moneta Senza Tempo
Total Cost: 18600 Moneta Senza Tempo
Recursive Cost: 51000 Moneta Senza Tempo (Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru x 102)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Results with Moneta Senza Tempo:
100 Moneta Senza Tempo x 2 = 200 Moneta Senza Tempo
150 Moneta Senza Tempo x 6 = 900 Moneta Senza Tempo
200 Moneta Senza Tempo x 9 = 1800 Moneta Senza Tempo
250 Moneta Senza Tempo x 4 = 1000 Moneta Senza Tempo
300 Moneta Senza Tempo x 15 = 4500 Moneta Senza Tempo
350 Moneta Senza Tempo x 16 = 5600 Moneta Senza Tempo
400 Moneta Senza Tempo x 11 = 4400 Moneta Senza Tempo
450 Moneta Senza Tempo x 12 = 5400 Moneta Senza Tempo
500 Moneta Senza Tempo x 4 = 2000 Moneta Senza Tempo
550 Moneta Senza Tempo x 2 = 1100 Moneta Senza Tempo
600 Moneta Senza Tempo x 4 = 2400 Moneta Senza Tempo
700 Moneta Senza Tempo x 1 = 700 Moneta Senza Tempo
750 Moneta Senza Tempo x 1 = 750 Moneta Senza Tempo
850 Moneta Senza Tempo x 1 = 850 Moneta Senza Tempo
Total: 31600 Moneta Senza Tempo
Average: 310 Moneta Senza Tempo per Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru
(Avg. Loss of -190 Moneta Senza Tempo per Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru)
----------------------------------------------------------------
Other Results:
Armor Tokens x 12
Babbo x 1
Fardello dell'Eternità x 1
----------------------------------------------------------------
I know I got lucky in this situation, but just so others know, its still possible to get Fardello dell'Eternità even with the nerf from the hotfix. Don't do this thinking you'll gain tons of Moneta Senza Tempo in the process. Its a big risk and hopefully you'll end up with at least one Fardello dell'Eternità rather than nothing but an empty coin purse and a bag full of useless Armor Tokens and Babbo.

Commento di reVSilverspine

December 4, 2013

Purchased 100 keys (50,000 coins) and this is what I've got from opening random chests:

Coins

50 timeless coins: 2
100 timeless coins: 1
150 timeless coins: 4
200 timeless coins: 4
250 timeless coins: 10
300 timeless coins: 16
350 timeless coins: 10
400 timeless coins: 7
450 timeless coins: 15
500 timeless coins: 5
550 timeless coins: 5
600 timeless coins: 4
650 timeless coins: 1
750 timeless coins: 1
850 timeless coins: 2
1000 timeless coins: 1
TOTAL: 33700

Armor tokens

Cloth
Timeless Cloth Belt: 1

Mail
Timeless Mail Boots: 1
Timeless Mail Shoulders: 1
Timeless Mail Leggings: 1
Timeless Mail Belt: 1

Plate
Timeless Plate Shoulders: 1
Timeless Mail Leggings: 2

Other
Bonkers: 2

I have heard speculation that there is a VERY rare chance to loot Redini della Serpe delle Nubi Celestiale Dorata but I have yet to find a reliable confirmation source, thus I find it highly unlikely for it to be true (we'd see ALOT more people opening chests).

Commento di AdamTherio

___________________________Keys Use____Coins Gained____Pet _____Token Pieces_____BoTs
______________________________100________33100________2___________8____________0
______________________________66_________20150________4___________7____________1
______________________________41_________12050________0___________4____________0
______________________________24_________7600_________2___________5____________0
______________________________15_________5150_________0___________0____________0
______________________________10_________3400_________0___________0____________0
______________________________7__________2300_________0___________0____________0
______________________________5__________800__________0___________1____________0
______________________________1__________400__________0___________0____________0
______________________________1__________650__________0___________0____________0
______________________________1__________200__________0___________0____________0
______________________________1__________350__________0___________0____________0
______________________________1__________600__________0___________0____________0
______________________________1__________400__________0___________0____________0
______________________________1__________600__________0___________0____________0
______________________________1__________300__________0___________0____________0
================================================================================
Total__________________________276________88050________8___________25___________1
Chance/Amount Per Try_____________________319.02_______0.03_________0.09________0.0036
Average Cost Per Item_________________________________17,250.00____5,520.00_____138,000.00
Coin Per Key After Coin Gains = 180.98
Coins Per Item With Coin Gains__________________________6,243.75_____1,998.00_____49,950.00

Sample Size: 276

Commento di phyreborn

Just adding to the log of information. 3 runs, all post nerf. Each run was until I could no longer buy any more keys.

Run 1.
Starting Coins: 50,362
Results: 281 Keys purchased, 1x Burden, 4x Bonkers, 29x Timeless items

Run 2.
Starting Coins: 50,941
Results: 272 Keys purchased, 1x Burden, 6x Bonkers, 31x Timeless items

Run 3.
Starting Coins: 50,005
Results: 271 Keys purchased, 0x Burden, 7x Bonkers, 32x Timeless items

Commento di lotus1197

276 keys
0 burdens
1 Bonkers
26 pieces of gear

Commento di dixiecz

I accuse Master Kukuru of being a scammer. All these coins and still not a single Burden. :(

Commento di 1216391

I was a bit fed up that my timeless coins really couldn't buy anything really useful anymore. So I looked up Kukuru's Grotto, from which I heard and read about. I was hoping that some keys might get me the Guanti a Piastre Senza Tempo that I still can't find. I bought 10 keys just to see how this works and I expected to invest a lot more.

Now I know people are going to hate me for this, but I opened the first chest: Fardello dell'Eternità. So I'm totally like "What the ...". Then I thought: "Oh I get it: the first one is a guaranteed drop, just like the burning cache" (I couldn't be more wrong). So I open up 3 more and get some coins. And then I open up another Burden of Eternity.... So thats two Fardello dell'Eternità with 5 keys... The other 5 keys were just coins.

I'm almost feel a bit guilty putting this here...

Now there is one thing I can't get out of my mind: What else could I have done this night with so much luck? What I should have done instead of playing WoW is buying 10 lottery tickets and chill in St Tropez for the rest of my life.....

Screenshot submitted.

So for me it was:

10 keys
2 Burdens
0 Timeless Isle Gear
0 Bonkers

BTW: In the screenshot you'll see first a 76 Timeless Coin received. Those were NOT from a cache but from a rare mob I killed just before entering the Grotto. It was Spelurk if anyone is interested killing him and then try your luck?

Commento di Phoneutria

I bought overall 289 keys. My plan was only to stop only till I get Fardello dell'Eternità
Total price is 144 500, but I started with about 65 000 coins. Because I got some coins back I could buy new keys.

x27 Timeless Armor/Jewelry
x5 Babbo
x1 Fardello dell'Eternità
x2 1Moneta Senza Tempo
x2 50Moneta Senza Tempo
x9 100Moneta Senza Tempo
x19 150Moneta Senza Tempo
x24 200Moneta Senza Tempo
x25 250Moneta Senza Tempo
x25 300Moneta Senza Tempo
x37 350Moneta Senza Tempo
x30 400Moneta Senza Tempo
x29 450Moneta Senza Tempo
x21 500Moneta Senza Tempo
x12 550Moneta Senza Tempo
x11 600Moneta Senza Tempo
x5 650Moneta Senza Tempo
x1 700Moneta Senza Tempo
x1 750Moneta Senza Tempo
x1 850Moneta Senza Tempo
x1 900Moneta Senza Tempo
x1 950Moneta Senza Tempo

Some interesting facts:
I had 0,35% chance to get Fardello dell'Eternità . I've got Timeless item 9% of time so it was almost every 10th drop. As for pet Babbo - 1,7%.
One more interesting fact. Almost 70% of time I've got Moneta Senza Tempo which was lower than the cost I've spent on buying Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru. 7% of time the cost was the same and 11,5% I even got more than I spent on Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru.

I wouldn't recommend buying keys if you just want to get Burden. The cost/time spent is not worth but then again for extra 15 000 I've got numerous items that I could disenchant/sell.

Commento di Synreaper

So post nerf these are my results on my ele sham

109 keys gave me:
32k coins
1 Cloth chest
1 Cloth Belt
1 Cloth Bracer
1 Leather Leg
1 Leather Helm
1 Leather Spaulder
1 Mail Belt
1 Mail Helm
1 Mail Gloves
2 Plate bracers
2 bonkers
0 Burdens

From that I bought 64 keys and got
18.5k coins
1 Leather Boots
1 Mail Gloves
1 Mail Helm
1 Plate Gloves
1 Plate Bracer
1 Signet
1 Bonkers
3 Burdens

I then Bought 37 keys and got
12k coins
1 Cloak
0 Burdens

Bought 24 keys got
8k coins
1 Cloak
1 Burden

Bought 16 keys
6k coins

Bought 12 keys
3.5k coins

Bought 7 keys
3k coins

bought 6 keys
2k coins

bought 4 keys
500 coins

with the coins I had left over i was able to buy 1 more key. i was able to repeat this 5 times b4 i ran out of coins.

i recommend buying the keys from all the posts i have seen it is a better bet if u are going for burdens. however don't just buy one key at a time. save and buy a large amount. I will try this again on my warrior but i will only open a single chest and not move around the room to see if it gives me a higher chance of drops. GL all and may RNG be on your side

Commento di Vlad

Posting my personal results with 43500x Moneta Senza Tempo at start:

Round 1:
87x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 43500x Moneta Senza Tempo
27343x Moneta Senza Tempo
3x Babbo
Corazza a Piastre Senza Tempo
Elmo a Piastre Senza Tempo
Gambiere a Piastre Senza Tempo
Stivali di Cuoio Senza Tempo
Stivali di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Guanti di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Elmo di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Gambiere di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Cintura di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Bracciali di Cuoio Senza Tempo
Round 2:
54x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 27000x Moneta Senza Tempo
15044x Moneta Senza Tempo
2x Gambiere di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Corazza di Maglia Senza Tempo
Guanti di Cuoio Senza Tempo
Vesti di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Cintura di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Mantello Senza Tempo
Fardello dell'Eternità
Round 3:
30x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 15000x Moneta Senza Tempo
8844x Moneta Senza Tempo
2x Babbo
Elmo di Maglia Senza Tempo
Vesti di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Guanti di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Guardaspalle di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Cintura di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Stranezza Senza Tempo
Round 4:
17x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 8500x Moneta Senza Tempo
6144x Moneta Senza Tempo
Cintura di Maglia Senza Tempo
Round 5:
12x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 6000x Moneta Senza Tempo
3494x Moneta Senza Tempo
Round 6:
6x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 3000x Moneta Senza Tempo
2044x Moneta Senza Tempo
Corazza a Piastre Senza Tempo
Round 7:
4x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 2000x Moneta Senza Tempo
1394x Moneta Senza Tempo
Round 8:
2x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 1000x Moneta Senza Tempo
1544x Moneta Senza Tempo
Round 9:
3x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 1500x Moneta Senza Tempo
1244x Moneta Senza Tempo
Round 10:
2x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 1000x Moneta Senza Tempo
594x Moneta Senza Tempo
Anello con Sigillo Senza Tempo
Round 11:
Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 500x Moneta Senza Tempo
494x Moneta Senza Tempo
Summary:
218x Chiave della Cassa di Kukuru for 42000x Moneta Senza Tempo
26183x Moneta Senza Tempo earned in addition to spending the 42000x Moneta Senza Tempo
5x Babbo
3x Cintura di Stoffa Senza Tempo
3x Gambiere di Stoffa Senza Tempo
2x Guanti di Stoffa Senza Tempo
2x Vesti di Stoffa Senza Tempo
2x Corazza a Piastre Senza Tempo
Stranezza Senza Tempo
Fardello dell'Eternità
Bracciali di Cuoio Senza Tempo
Mantello Senza Tempo
Anello con Sigillo Senza Tempo
Guardaspalle di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Elmo di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Stivali di Stoffa Senza Tempo
Guanti di Cuoio Senza Tempo
Stivali di Cuoio Senza Tempo
Cintura di Maglia Senza Tempo
Elmo di Maglia Senza Tempo
Corazza di Maglia Senza Tempo
Gambiere a Piastre Senza Tempo
Elmo a Piastre Senza Tempo

I was hoping for more than one Fardello dell'Eternità as I had earlier experiences where I'd get around 2 from 30k coins. :(

Commento di rpalmeri

Just found this NPC and got my Burden of Eternity with my third key. Feel free to hate me.

Commento di gtadem

Just wanted to post that I just got a Burden of Eternity this way. Was doing it to farm for cloth gear for my soon to be 90 priest and got lucky.

Commento di 1091222

I think I've spent around 10k-15k coins on keys (some coins I got back from the chest), and gotten 4 burden of eternity, so for those who are up for a little gamble, I'll recommend you to buy keys and just try the different timeless chest laying around in the cave.

Commento di Drunkagossa

I just got Bonkers on my first try! Hail to the (Lich) King.

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