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blademeld
Exactly, not all farms are like that.
Messaggio di
Interest
Exactly, not all farms are like that.
BUILD MORE FARMS!
Messaggio di
ASHelmy
Exactly, not all farms are like that.
BUILD MORE FARMS!
Win, also, congratulations :) =).
Messaggio di
blademeld
Exactly, not all farms are like that.
I never said they were.
But I've stated that extremity doesn't happen for all farms, yet on every farm and slaughterhouse there is abuse and neglect.
Vikey, give it a rest for tonight.
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345930
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Messaggio di
blademeld
I don't have to give it a rest, I'm right.
"I'm right and you're wrong."
This is what I get for correcting a pre-teen.
Oh well.
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266586
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Messaggio di
Dralas
This is just painful... died a little on the inside when I kept coming back to this thread, don't know why
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85162
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Messaggio di
Slimda
Vegetarians eat up all the plants for the poor, helpless animals.
Think of the animals, eat meat!
Messaggio di
blademeld
I never said they were .
There is abuse and neglect on every farm.
And it keeps coming.
Messaggio di
blademeld
Let me get this straight, you're arguing based on the severity of abuse?
Gosh darn it, I think I might be abusive to my pet dog for not giving her a golden crown.
Messaggio di
blademeld
No, I'm arguing for animal rights. As in no testing, no abuse, no killing, and giving info on vegetarianism.
So I defended my statements.
"I'm right" is not a defense.
I said there is infact abuse and neglect on every farm.
Really now? Have you been to every farm?
I've been on farms that raise animals freerange.
Oh lord the humanity of letting the animals prosper as they do in the wild.
Is it to that extremity as shown on those videos on every single farm? No. But some farms do go to that extremity.
Vegetarians should shut up for hating meat eaters, but not every vegetarians hate meat eaters to that extent.
That was my example.
You were trying to make it seem like I contradicted myself, not even giving full quotes of what I said.
Exactly, not all farms are like that.
I never said they were.
infact I -just- told you not all were, but some still are. and almost if not all farms abuse and neglect their animals, of course not all to that extremity
Still sounds contradictory to me.
Messaggio di
blademeld
No, have you? If you haven't then you can't tell me there isn't abuse and neglect on every farm.
You have to be on every farm to prove you're right, I only have to be on one good farm to prove you're wrong.
Do you realise the flaw in your argument there, right?
that look like they had gotten beaten.
So I'm going off what I've seen, heard, and read about.
And I'm going by what I've seen. There are farms out there that don't abuse or neglect their animals.
Every farm has abuse and neglect, no workers are pixel perfect at doing their job.
You're blaming it on mistakes now?
Most are taught to beat their animals
Most != all
example mulesing sheep.
Mulesing is a controversial topic with many different opinions. The National Farmers Federation says that "Mulesing remains the most effective practical way to eliminate the risk of ‘flystrike’ in sheep" and "that without mulesing up to 3,000,000 sheep a year could die a slow and agonising death from flystrike.
I suppose the yearly flu shots are abuse as well.
OMG I'm being abused.
We don't hate you. At least not all vegetarians
You misunderstood the second part, not all farms are like that either.
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345930
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Messaggio di
blademeld
I'm done wasting my time arguing with you, and everyone else.
I'm obviously not getting through to any of you, too stubborn.
And you're not stubborn for arguing back against 5-6 people for 9-10 pages?
Silly Vikey, re-evaluate your position before you judge anyone else.
I doubt you inspected every animal on that farm to see if they were being abused or neglected. If you did and they weren't, good, you're right.
It was a small farm, not all farms are on an industrial scale, and not all animals raised on a farm are meant for food either.
There might not be abuse on all farms.. However, there are still many many many other farms that should not abuse their animals that do. I didn't mean to start this debate, but since I'm in it, I wanted to debate on animal rights, such as not killing for food, fur, etc. Not using for testing, etc. Not the severity of abuse on farms or if all farms abuse them.
Back on track, I wonder what else you can use to fuel the torch...
Messaggio di
Haxzor
MEAT, MORE MEAT
Messaggio di
mudfish
MEAT, MORE MEAT
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345930
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