[4.0.1] Quick pvp guide on all 3 speccs

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Messaggio di Caperon

You can always move the points out of Murderous Intent into something more fitting for you, but this is seriously one of the best talents for the execute fase.

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i'm planning to return to pvp for cata...i love the new builds especially assasination.

let's see what the future has for us.

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Messaggio di KidB

looking to your build you take both quikening and nightstalker.....do they stack?

They're completely different effects. Why wouldn't they?

Messaggio di Caperon

Yes.

Here's a clear extract:
Normal stealth has a speed of 70% of normal run speed. Camo reduces the speed penalty by 15%, leaving you at 85% speed while in stealth.

Here's where most people get the math wrong: Fleet footed does increase your speed by 15%, but it's 15% of the 85% your stealth speed is at with Camo. So, 85 x 15% (1.15) = 97.75%

Messaggio di Caperon

looking to your build you take both quikening and nightstalker.....do they stack?

They're completely different effects. Why wouldn't they?

Also to clarify KidB:
Nightstalker reduces the movement debuff of stealth, while Quickening increases your overall movement speed.

Messaggio di GrooveMaster

regarding sub pvp:

I'm really digging the spec you posted -- only thing that bugs me is the loss of initiative...Is there anything I could viably take points out of to grab it? That extra combo point is just too tempting

Messaggio di Caperon

Are you having cp problems (for which you need that extra cp)?

And to answer your question:
Yes, you could, but you would be underpreforming.

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Messaggio di Caperon

This spec is what I've been using for a while now. I must say, it performs extremely well. I swapped out the Hemorrage glyph for Glyph of Backstab, mainly as a personal choice but also because when combined with Energetic Recovery, I'm getting some pretty substantial energy returns.
Actually currently the glyph of hemorrhage is better.
The extra bleed is almost necessary and energy regen is currently not a problem with haste scalling.

I don't use Hemorrhage all that often because of how much more potent Backstab is by comparison
Hemorrhage should be used for the debuff and if possible for the bleed it produces.

Waylay is constantly being applied with everyBackstab, and that its not that hard to get behind your target in pvp.
Although this might be true in bgs etc, it can be a whole different story in arenas (coming season 9).

I've found Improved Recuperate is excellent when I'm stunned and being focused as it allows me to actually live through stuns.
Recuperate should be up ~~almost~~ 100%.

I swapped the points in HaT with Lethality, mainly because of all the comments I've read about how broken/buggy HaT is at the moment but also because I'm seeing bigger Backstab/Hemorrage numbers with Lethality than without it.
Hat > Lethality and hat seems to be working atm.

In regards to poisons, I use WP on my MH, and DP on my OH with CP or MNP on my ranged weapon, because if for some reason I am unable to Backstab my target and Waylay has fallen off, I can simply FoK CP onto them, and any other targets nearby for a quick snare.

Double wound if you can keep waylay up, if you cant: crippling/mind-numbing.

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Soz.. Not as good as the Ultimate PVP guide :/

Whahaha...nothing can compete with the Ultimate PVP guide! XD

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