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Commento di Hyperlynx

I'd like to take this moment to thank the Death Knight class for, at least for a while, focusing the QQ off of us rogues.

Commento di Katalliaan

Death Knights are a very unique damage-dealing class in that their damage is dealt by both melee abilities and spells!

They're as unique as enhancement shaman! Oh, wait...

Commento di dreadblood

we start with First Aid because many people lvling other classes wud have first aid at this level, thus for equality we get it (same reason we get a good set of blues for outland)

Commento di Toldry

So you're a Death Knight that just got to level 80, what now?

Well, the first place you should be looking for in order to get some new gear is these three instances:

And here are two lists of items "sets" you should try to get:

Tanking
DPS

Note that as Frost (No matter whether you're Tanking or DPSing), you need to get two One-handed weapons, while as Blood or Unholy you need to get one Two-handed weapons.

On both lists, the first column is the main "set" while the second one are some alternative items.

Commento di Archangel76

For a DK, the stat values really depend on your build. In general however....

Strength > Stamina > Hit (until cap.... which depends on if you use 2H or DW) > Expertise (until cap) > armor penetration / crit / haste (depending on your build) > agility

Agility moves up higher for a DK tank in this case. The above is generalized for a DK.
A lot of the dps armor has hit built into it so getting to the hit cap is generally less of an issue. The expertise cap can be a bit trickier. As for hit though, I frequently see a 2H DK with 300+ hit and in some cases, up to 500. In those cases, I'm usually helping them lower their hit rating to try and get other damage producing stats increased. As for stamina, it'll never hurt a DK to have extra stamina as you will be up close and getting personal with mobs. You can't tank if you're dead.... and your dps automatically drops to zero if you die. So..... bear that in mind.

One of the coolest things about DK's is the amount of options you have for dps'ing or tanking. The downside is, you really need to spend a little time planning out a build for effectiveness as you can get considerable dps or performance increases by shifting stats and talents even a slight amount. The Elitist Jerks forums for DK's are a good starting place, but not the end all be all. You really need to have a goal in mind when assembling your gearsets.

(Note: I pulled this from another post I made earlier today. It was relevant to the class in general so I added it here. I made a few additions to reflect the more general nature of this particular discussion)

Commento di slakhorn

Can someone link the DK starting gear?

Commento di Archangel76

Again..... magic words.....

The above is generalized for a DK

~~Otherwise..... agree with what you posted.~~ I take that back. I don't agree.

1) With Blood.... ArPen is not always greater than Str. Much of the gear comes with ArPen on it and there are limits to the effectiveness of ArPen. Without an amply amount of strength/attack power, your hits simply aren't going to be all they could be. The two work in tandem. It doesn't hurt to have gear with more armor penetration, but by and large, you'll see blood dps gemming for strength.

2) Unholy depends largely on the build you have and gear. ArPen became more useful with 3.3.3 due to changes to Scourge Strike, but if you have a frost sub-build, you get more out of haste. (Which is made even more interesting in that you've gemmed for Strength and not ArPen)

3) Hit and expertise are critical due to DW. Then Str > ArPen > Crit/Haste/Agi. As for Glyph of Disease versus Icy Touch, Glyph of Disease makes sense with 3.3.3. Glyph of Icy Touch used to be considered the third best, but with changes to Glyph of Disease in 3.3.3, you'll want to run dual disease on Frost dps.

Dps is pretty simple by and large. Kind of a one way street. Increase damage output. You have raw numbers here that will show you if you're more effective or not. The feel of a build is still important as if it feels awkward you'll never perform to the best of your ability. But in general, Strength and ArPen will never hurt for any dps build.

As for tanking............ a generalized stat weight would be.........

Defense (to the soft defense cap, which is presently 540 for raids in WotLK) > Stamina > Expertise > Hit > Strength > Agility > Dodge and/or Parry

Armor, can't really gem for that and any DK tank is going to upgrade for armor when they can. And let's face it, you are going to use plate armor if you're tanking. You can use various trinks as needed to increase armor, but that is situational. Defense plate typically has stats and armor geared for the purpose. You generally won't want to use dps gear unless it does not affect your survival.

Expertise and Hit are important for threat generation. You can get by under hit cap if you are at expertise cap. Main thing here is, managing your threat. If you're not hitting, you are losing threat.

Strength affects attack power which affects everything you do for threat generation. Attack power increases damage output for spells/abilities for DK's so an increase in attack power will equal greater threat. Strength also increases your parry rating. Trust me, if you don't have enough attack power, no amount of hit or expertise will make up for the poor threat generation when you have mages/warlocks cranking out 10k+ hits.

Agility is a good stat if you can find it on gear as it increases your armor, increases dodge, and improves your crit.

After that, dodge and parry can be both valuable. You'll get it on a lot of your armor sets.

Tanking is a balancing act. It's not like dps.
In tanking, you need to balance two things: survival and threat. Survival depends on defense, stamina, armor, agility, dodge, and parry (in that order pretty much). Threat depends on attack power/strength, expertise, and hit. Balancing both sides of this is the trick. A lot of survival stats are great, but if you can't hold threat, you fail as a tank. The flip side of that coin is, if you can't survive the threat you generate, you fail also. You are going to have to tinker with your build and gear to make a tank that plays well for you. You have to find the balance that works for you and your group.

One last caveat......
All of this changes once Cataclysm hits.

Commento di 296147

I think you should add that some of a Death Knight's abilities become even stronger when diseases are active.

Commento di 607939

Frost DW DPS w/ Glyph of Icy Touch:
Hit to 5% cap > Str > Expertise/Armor Pen > Crit/Haste > Agi

This was correct with 3.3.2. It is no longer correct with 3.3.3. Please refer to the Elitist Jerks forum where, quote:

Major

With the change to Glyph of Disease, there are really no other reasonable glyph choices. Howling Blast was convenient to use at one time, but since we will need to keep both diseases up at all time, it loses a lot of its value. Glyph of Icy Touch was previously the best 3rd glyph to use, but the changes to GoD have pushed it off the list.

Source: http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t83319-frost_dps_3_3_3_will_day_long_remembered/#ixzz0pNTV48nJ

In regards to the following statement:

Tanks generally should prioritize:
Stamina > Armor > Dodge > Expertise > Hit > Agi > Str > Parry

Tanks should prioritize the following:

Defense > Stamina > Armor > Expertise > Hit > Strength > Dodge > Parry > Agility

The argument itself is somewhat pointless, as most tank gear will have more armor than matching dps gear. Additionally, tank gear will usually have defense, dodge, parry, or block on it. Additionally, most tank gear will also have strength and stamina stats native to the gear. As a tank, you want to be aware of the following caps, as they are targets for your effectiveness.

Defense: Currently 540 for uncrittable in Icecrown Citadel and the other Northrend raid instances
Expertise: Currently 26 to eliminate a level 83 mob's ability to dodge, parry, or block an attack
Hit: Currently 276 to eliminate the inherent 8% miss on a level 83 mob

The other poster, Archangel, is correct regarding Strength as being the foundation for a Death Knight's attack power and the impact which it has upon their abilities and threat levels.

I recommend TankSpot for further guidance regarding Death Knight tanking.
TankSpot

Commento di 581568

Also, each death knight talent tree provides decent synergy -- you will usually have one of each class in 25 mans.

Ebon Plaguebringer; its only applied once, and that means only one Unholy death knight can have it, meaning having two Unholy death knights is very unwise, reducing one's DPS by quite a bit. However, to frost and blood death knights, the extra disease damage applies to their diseases, just like the extra magic damage does to spell casters (and maybe DK's death coil too?). Blood's extra attack power benefits every talent tree, and Frost has some uses, such as increasing a death knight's damage when all their runes are on CD, or even GCD (this is also maximizes the use of the 4 piece t10 set).

Commento di Evandar21

Thanks for making ~~all~~ most of the huntards reroll :D

Commento di dreadblood

can I say that ppl who whine that DK's start at 55... we did have to have a char at 55 before that though.. and also, the DK IS A HERO CLASS!, so yeah, they should get some special treatment! (and its not even that much special treatment)

Commento di batgirlthedk

Hi Hi don't even ask yes i'm a guy. Anyways for the most part since dks when live mine as for the most part always been a tank. At first it was rough the gear at our disposal wasn't the greatest and the talent builds for tanking were kinda bad to say the least. i do like how the talents flow now but it's saddens me i'll have to be a comformist come cata. i really did enjoy having my own spec something unique to me for my use not some copypasta print out. granted blood has self healing but to be honest i prefer frost dw tanking over it immensly becuase for 3 very good reasons

1. very few raids on my server have decently geared enhancment shamans
2. quite a few blood dk for abombs might
3. while i have no rotation anymore i outthreat pallies higher geared then me becuase of just about inf. rp resulting in spaming rune strike and spaming icy touch when killing machine procs coupled with the longer durations for your cds i just prefer frost tanking over blood and i will deeply miss it

before you start calling me a noob mind you i'm a icc most 25 geared tank 4 part sanc tanking gear so yes trust me i know what i'm doing link to my armory page :D http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korialstrasz&cn=Batgirl

EDIT: both my specs are tanking specs i prefer to use my blood spec for soloing more then for live raiding so if you see the axe of culling there instead of my twins i was probably in bwl farming for my thunderfury

Commento di 364477

You're kidding? Blood spec is going to be the new tank spec? :(

That makes me sad. I was having fun levelling my frosty gnome tank. Level 70 atm! :D I do hope that frost stays a viable tank spec... I know that alot of people already tank sucessfully in blood spec but I really like frost.

I think the thing with DKs is they suffer from Pally/hunter syndrome... the class attracts alot of idiots.

... Oh, and there's alot of haters out there. I got kicked from a PUG just the other night because "OMG every1 knoes dks cant tank lol nub" >>

Commento di avalanch07

all of these tabs & not a tab for glyphs yet.

Commento di 106802

People still complaining about DKs? Wow.

Troll Druids should prepare their flame shields next, cause they're all starting at lvl 80, because...they were hiding.

Commento di milalyr

I'm wondering how they're going to handle the lore around starting a DK come Cataclysm.

For most of the races, it can probably just be considered a time capsule. Hey, look! The Lich King! Jump forward to present time...

But how do you retcon in goblins and worgen death knights? These are races joining the fray after the events of Wrath. You can't really say that after all that hullabaloo in Icecrown Citadel we had all this stuff happen with Gilneas and Kezan and somehow we have the Lich King raising the new guys as death knights, even though that can't possibly be the case, given what happened at Icecrown before they even joined, and... my head hurts.

Commento di 628370

What exactly is it that makes Death Knights "Hero" class?

Commento di 628276

Its seems that you dont need a lvl 55 anymore . My bro has making a DK on a new serverwithout any of my chars on. And my other bro makes a DK on a server he played but without a lvl 55. Mayby you can make it if you have a lvl 55 or higher on your account. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Commento di Ultenth

I'm not sure how DK's ability to deal melee and spell damage is "very unique" considering that shamans, paladins, and also technically rogues also do the very same thing. That comment should honestly be deleted.

Also, to the previous poster, what patch exactly DIDN'T Deathknights get nerfed on? They have been beaten down every single patch since they were released and are now a poor shadow of themselves, of course Paladins are still as OP as ever though. Looks like Blizzard really views Pally's as the true "Hero Class".

Commento di themguyman

ok this it pissing me off when i look for new trinkets for improving my death knight for unholy dps i keep getting items that give spell power. i know that some abilities (like death coil) use spell power but is there really a reason to get any besides a little increased damage from an ability that is not used much. but i digress, i think that blizz should just change it so that the death knight spell damage to scale with attack power or strength cuz its just stupid that a primarily melee dps class should look for spell power for increased damage for one spell.

(srry for the rant just got pissed of filtering through trinkets for the last time)

edit: also in response to @mankiller34 im just going to my profile and clicking find upgrades under the tab and it shows a spell power trinkets as top rating thats the reason for this post not because im looking for spell power trinkets

Edit2: i might have been looking at the procs for teh trinkets looked again and they give a lot of hit

Commento di 634320

so blood is the tank spec.... i was always told frost was... wierd... ive always tanked frost... it seems like it would be the best for tanking anyway with a nice little AoE going on... if someone doesnt mind, would you reply and tell me the minuses of being a frost tank compared to blood?

Commento di 545254

The Theory of a Death Knight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvbk5MJNFlI&feature=watch_response

Commento di 625430

well, nao in this 31point talent trees we're getting nerfed, i think a mass QQ and flame in forums will do great, no? builds are stupidily restrictive: frost dps can't get Necrosis, is you wanna get your disease time increased you'll lose scent of bloos or blood-caked strike. unholy and frost can´t get Thoughness. and wtf? frsot get a 2h talent = MotFW? sudden doom is not longer launching the deathcoil instantly?
while pala is getting more OP: pet, holy power, useful talents.
mass. QQ

Commento di HandsomeJack

It comes with the territory that many people will think DK's are noobs, simply because getting to 55 was easy (cake now) so everyone and their mothers are coming in with new DK's not doing any research on how to tank or even how to play the classes. Which makes me believe people don't know about either google or youtube, either way people should definitely take a step back and read...even if it hurts. I'm not saying be the highest in arena, but learn a little about your class.

As for DK's themselves, I've tanked heroics no problem, I'm used to being a bear tank (no shield) so it's not a big deal. I've seen many other DK's tank just fine, so in many cases, its who you get, respectively , I 've seen bad Warriors and Paladins tank.

In the end, Haters gonna hate.

Commento di Dither9

I love playing as a DK, but some really big noobs make the class look terrible. It's not the class that's bad, it's some people that play as it.

Commento di ShirokenUrsin

Dk tanking can be a hoot, if you have the patience for it. As a Blood specced tank with 1/1 Rune Tap, 3/3 Improved Rune Tap, Vampiric Touch, Black Heart, and Ick-and-Crick's Rotting Thumb, I can weather through almost any healer. 8-9k heals from Death Strike with 2 diseases, 11k heals with Rune Tap, and life saving 24k BH-I&CRT-VB-Raise Dead-Death Pact heals.......and I'm in tier 9-9.25 gear.

Commento di 643018

Is it just me or does the new rune system means that without TONS of haste, we'll be sitting on TONS of unused global cooldowns? (Unless if the rune recovery increase and the GCD decrease are balanced, so we just have TONS of short unused GCDs). Can anyone in the beta give us a clue to how it works out?

P.S.: The most badass-looking thing i've worn on my dk's head? The starter piece. Yes, the hood. And just to my bad luck, my bro's paladin gets a hood as T10 piece. 2 things have pissed me off, the lack of high-end hoods for us and Frostscythe of Lord Ahune being a staff rather than polearm, meaning we can't equip it. This kind of loot should be uncategorised (see "the fire extinguisher").

Commento di 632746

A death Knight is not a hero class because he is lvl 55 but rather - he is lvl 55 because he is a hero class - see the difference? Also he is a hero class because he begins as one of the bad guys (Scourge) and because he has one hell of a quest chain that tells you the story by making you take part in it.
Death knight PvE and leveling (imo) is fun and easy when blood ,you can solo most elites hence the self heal.
But very very (20xVery)sadly blood is not that successful in PvP. Why? Blood deals majorly Physical dmg(gets mitigated by armor+resilience) and can hardly take out a large chunk out of plate wearers Hp bar.
Unholy and Frost on the other hand have strong elemental dmg (passes through armor , but still gets reduced by resilience).

Unholy is based on shadow magic diseases and controlling minions.This spec's dps is sorta like 40%from diseases ,ghoul and other passives and 60%from the push of a buton(on-demand abilities like strikes and deathcoil)

Frost is focused on ripping the opponent to shreds by yourself (no minions and minor disease dmg , but with great bonuses to strikes and abilities) . I consider this the more "lone-wolf" playstyle build ,whilst unholy is something like a mastermind. :D

Blood is not as ofensive as frost but it sustains itself alot better( Unholy's 3rd disease and blood's Improoved Death strike are the only ways of making Death strike heal the most , blood will still heal slightly more with improoved blood presence in 3.3.5)

I may not be explaining clearly enough ,if thats the case im sorry , if you want to observe the way blizzard sees it then go to the talent calculator and youll have a provided summary :D thank you for reading

Commento di Connane

My question is what are the quests and new gear going to look like once cata is released.
I mean come on the lich king is kind of already dead who is the new leader and how are worgens and goblins going to be intergrated in
Sry didn't read other notes if i sound like a repeat :D.

Commento di 650974

Death Knights do it from behind!...aaa NOT!
...they just call in a ghoul to do it from behind

Commento di 663911

Hi!

I've got one question, that I couldn't find an answer for on the web...

I have lvl80 Troll Rogue and I want to make a DK from him... What will happen with all the achivements, mounts, pets and professions (JC and Ench both 450), when I will make a DK ?

Thanks

Commento di 668202

world of warcraft needed more lv 80 tanks so they made the DK

Commento di 668202

blood tank = 2handed wepon.

frost tank 2 1handed wepons.

Commento di Omarion1

"I'd listen to the words he'd say
But in his voice i heard DK..."

lol, i had to write this.

Anyway cookie to anyone that gets it.

Commento di 671399

Hey! I want to know if, on Cataclysm, a Frost Death Knight can use a 2H weapon like "Shadowmourne"because of "Icy Talons" and "Might of The Frozen Wastes (Rank 3)". I think a Frost DK is better with a 2H weapon because he have attack speed grown with 20% and if you attack with a 2H weapon you have a 45% chance to get 10 runic power.

2H weapon + Icy Talons + Improved Icy Talons = Big Damage and rapid attacks (this is my opinion :):):):D)

Commento di DLuniz

Did they really remove Corpse explosion? Or am I not looking in the right place?

Commento di 574385

What is everyone's thoughts on the new rune cooldown system? I find myself just standing there more now waiting for them to recharge completely F'ed. Any hints on the new method to the madness?

Commento di janibanini

Hey anyone Know a good rotasion and talent for Blood tank for for 4.0.1? like to hear form you all....

Commento di 395813

Patch 4.0.1
Your A Bloody Tank
Bood Changed to tanking spec
Unholy and Frost Changed so as to improve damage,
Frost and Blood presence effects have switched places.

All i will say is thank you Blizzard!
not so sure about new rune system though.....

Commento di 684982

Rune regen definitely feels too slow. I also find myself just standing there passively tanking in instances. DPS seems right on though (at least it's in accord with the rest of the classes), but oh boy I'd prefer faster rune regen and lower damage on the abilities to even it out.

Commento di 535546

Dont even consider rolling DW frost when you hit Outlands... With 4.0.1 Blizzard really, really, REALLY gimped the overall performance to ridiculously low levels, due to:

1. You wont get a reliable Threat of Thassarian until lvl 63. (Abilities hit with both weapons)

2. You wont get Howling Blast until lvl 69 (Your only good AoE spell, blood has survivability/bloodboil and Unholy has Imp. DnD/Imp. Diseases.)

3. You are dual-wielding, giving you a very high miss chance. The 20% AS passive merely makes up for this, as opposed to Unholy death knights 15%+ str and ghoul pet / Blood death knights 9% more sta and 6 expertise. (Don't view Icy Talons as a buff unless you are going to use a two-hander.)

(4. As a DW frost DK, consider running away from other DKs, as they will kill you if they don't suck alot. (Forget DK vs DK duels))

5. Unless you buy the pretty crappy axes/swords for ~ 35g each, you wont get an useful weapon until atleast after HFP. The weapons mentioned requires you to be honored with HH/Thrallmar (Weapons? What weapons?)

6. You have the worst overall survivability of all the speccs, due to not having a single straightly defensive ability / talent. (Chillblains Could be considered defensive, but do you always have the room to kite things around?)

And finally, a question, how does Icy Talons stack with Improved Icy Talons?

(The many edits were made during the writing of this post.)

Commento di 696320

Okay, need a little help for OWNAGE.... I am a Unholy DK with Frost as my other spec.... With an Unholy Spec was is a great rotation to have the most damage, because right now I have no Idea and I am only getting 3.5K with a 4.8K gear score. I have some great pieces....

Same goes for the Frost spec... need an awesome rotation... thanks for your help!

Frostess - Onyxia

Commento di Killmekos

DK's were supposed to be the generals of the Scourge, for some reason i can't imagine them being forced to kill lvl 1-5 boars/wolves/tigers/plainstriders/scorpids >.>, Oh and gathering apples too

Commento di nintendorichard

Death Knights now begin with a Scourgestone.

Commento di rogenburger

this is the best looking gear for a dk

Commento di Lokis

So whos agrreing with me that blizzard destroyed the DK? destroyed my playstyle with the death knight, im so pissed, Im not moving to Cataclysm.
First of all: Blood talent was the highest DPS tree with a potential to survivability. while frost would mostly minimize dmg taken and Unholy be more of an AoE assist. now what do they do? they make all the new DPS have not much survivability and the now tank has skills to heal him, BUT WHAT FOR IF HE ALREADY MINIMIZES THE DMG? though his dmg now isnt so high.
Blizzard should focus not on making a tank tree and DPS tree and all that, but making many ways for creative playstyles, and cataclysm just did the opposite.

Commento di themguyman

has any one else noticed the server lack of major glyphs for unholy death knights

Commento di 629499

Okay! Having some thoughts on my Frost PvP. I've got my frost tree tailored to my needs and wants and desires, but i can't decide on whether or not to get Resilient Infection Talent, so that way i get more runes from howling blast(glyphed) thus more runic power. However that's not a constant and reliable source... healers may decide not to dispell.

OR

To go for Scent Of Blood. In PvP i'm getting hit almost constantly, so there's a very high chance of being able to keep that up with 2 points into the talent. With this talent i'll be able to Frost Strike more which means i MAY be able to use Howling Blast more.

Help please?

Commento di gremlinoutcast

I dont know how people can complain about DK tanking changes. Imho it has only been changed for the better. The survivability has been raised, the threat is better and even though it seems to lack the AoE we used to have, if used right, there wont be a need for DnD to be down every 10 seconds. I'm perfectly happy with the changes.

My favorite thing about it all... Blood Shield. It is an awesome tool for any tank and makes the healer's job a bit simpler, granted that is if the tank knows what they are doing.

Commento di 749265

If you make a DK character, does it overwrite your original character?

Commento di 753343

i love dks

Commento di 685268

Hey, I just recently made a Worgen DK and while I was doing the final quest from the Lich King, the one where you mount up on the frost wyrm, something really weird happened. My worgen character has been doing the /roar sound effect and motion since I mounted up on the frost wyrm and I was curious to see if anybody else has been having this problem. Like, does anyone know if it's a glitch or if Blizzard actually created it to do that? Either way, I'm about ready to gouge my eardrums out because, while it was ok for the first few roars, it gets tiring to hear every 3 seconds (literally). So, yea, any information would be of great appriciation. Thank you.

Commento di 758336

I dont like the new DK talents i miss blood dps

Commento di 758604

I'm an unholy DK and am confused as to what stats I need to be focusing on. With the new gear I dont know if I should be picking mastery over crit and when changing out gear should I make sure my DPS is going up above all or make sure my strength and other stats are increasing. Please help, I'm lost. Thank you!

Commento di 759832

i have a lvl 60 DK and i was wondering what good runeforge i should use. it is a tank. ty

Commento di 619615

I have a question about unholy dks (feel free to downrate me if already answered) can unholy dks use 2 1 handers or do they have to use a 2 hander?

Commento di 619933

seriously i hate it when ppl complain if u dont like the new update then dont be a dk there are 9 other classes to play Besides theres too much dks in wow already

Commento di 719302

to make this Death knight truly a force to be reckoned with what is a good armor set for him? I just started out this death knight and am truly happy to have him please if you have any advice let me know what kind of armor set I should put on this charcter email me at robonuts11@yahoo.com thanks for your time

Dave

Commento di 788240

the name of "Death Knight" is awesome anyways arthas is death knight right?and why dk class isnt same skill of arthas?im just curious

Commento di 794291

I love my DK, I have long been a believer that just to keep with the lore, Blizz should have made the player creating the DK, sacrifice at Toon at the 55+ level. I believe that would have filtered out a bunch of the crappy DK players, and only the players really wanting a DK to make them. As far as the New Talent Tree's. I like the simplification, however wished they had stayed with the tradition Frost as the Tanking Spec, or No Specific Tank spec at all.

Commento di 715857

I think we should all kill Arthas when we pretend to help him as a deathknight and stab him in the back and burn his body to get a early kingslayer title Shazam!

(Just making a weird idea)

Commento di 800942

I certainly enjoyed having 3 tank trees at my disposal, but moving tanking to one tree has certainly simplified things.

Unfortunately there are way too many bad DK's that end up creating the stigma that the rest of us are sub-par tanks.

Commento di jaypaw

I think that in cata they should of added another class at lvl 60 so WotLK and Cata are equal

Commento di guatafu

Suffer well brother.

Commento di 537632

is it possible to bug frost dk duel wield with unholy presence ? i do not stack haste i have not much has but i have over 70% unbuffed and when a shammy pops hero and my trinkets proc i get around 137% haste its insane .

Commento di 813085

how to play a death knight :

apply face to keyboard.

Commento di 781154

you know, i dont mind the whole dk thing people in my guild hate them but personaly like them. i just made one unholy speced, pretty nice if u ask me.

Commento di Nuzzle

My favorite thing about my deathknight is the flashy abilitys that make him alot more fun to play then my other characters

Commento di 649096

I think Death Knigh is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills people and stuff and doesn’t afraid of Lich King.

Commento di dresdor

Most of the hate aimed at DKs is due to the smaller levelling requirements for the class. Essentially, it is the end-game tank that requires the least amount of time to get to max level. Most people assume that also means players don't get enough time to figure out how to tank with it, and that is, sadly, more often true than not.

Commento di snowbener

Well DK have to go through the same as other classes, and with those heirlooms is lvling from 1-60 easy and fast as hell people can do it in 3 days gaming time, and in outland gear is coming closer to heirlooms so people shouldn't complain so much cause DK's are playing only the harder part of lvling.

and they do have some very nice skills like dark simulacrum and the fact that they are the second class who can battle ress what is very nice in raiding. If you miss a druid, you would miss a vital class now you got 2 options (same as shaman and mage with bloodlust/heroism/timewarp).

So just dont be hard for them cause they can be very fun and usefull :)

Commento di narrat0r

Death Knights have very short cooldowns on pretty much all of their abilities, so mapping certain attack spells to Q, E, R, D, or C on your keyboard while playing as a DK pretty much turns WoW into an Action-RPG.

Commento di Rizzatto

Here's a question: What is are good professions for dk's to take? They have to deal with the added wrinkle of being nearly a level 60 without any points in any professions (other than first aid). Any professions that can help compensate for this?

Commento di Connane

Can someone pls put the level 70 pvp set for deathknights in there set gear list its driving me bonkers : /

Commento di Tylersmith112

I was doing the starting quests once and i just remeberd something that scared me sooooo much for some reason. During the lights hope chapel fight scene i hit the NE and 666 and she fainted. O.O

Commento di Helenek

Can anyone tell me were the closest mailbox in the DK starter-area is?

Commento di 853471

What's better Death Knight,R Paladin or Warrior ?

Commento di Rapperb

Ok,
I have few questions
Ppl Let's talk about dk's dps

Strength > Hit to cap 8% > Haste > Mastery > Expertise to cap > Crit > Agility

now I m really curious into haste and mastery..is there any max cap? or should i just reforged them or gem it to reach as max points as i can?

Coz i saw this Each point of mastery increase shadow dmg..let say i wanna add more point for this .. what is the max cap?

My unholy dk is pulling 10k now in heroic dungeon.
Please check my armory here http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/barthilas/Dkamanda/advanced

I need to prepare before I go fireland raid.. So i need some helps...is there any better rotation which will pull more than 10k dmg?

My current rotation go like this
Single Target ; disease > DT > DnD > SS > SS > BS > FTS > SS > SS > SS > HOW
Multi Target ; disease > Pestilence > BB > DT > DnD > SS > SS > BS > FTS > SS > SS > SS > HOW

I shoot DC whenever it is avaiable

thank

Commento di Karsciyin

Death Knights get a lot of disrespect from players for a couple of reasons.

One: resentment at the fact they start at level 55 from the get-go, and will be introduced into the main playing realm at 58. Some players (in particular the 'elitist' ones) believe you should have 'earned' your level through days of grinding, and that this is 'cheating' (oh noes). Others have concerns about the fighting/playing prowess of Death Knights, since the abilities are introduced almost all at once rather than periodically, limiting the practice or the experience the player has to set a good rotation.

Two: the Death Knight class is 'unlocked' from possessing a high-level toon - but that toon can be any race, any class, any spec. This can lead to DPSs or healers making Death Knights - a class they have yet to fully learn - and getting introduced to tanking at a stage where other classes are already 'settled' into their roles, performing at a sub-par level, comparatively. And many will take this opportunity to start tanking, since tanks generally have the shortest dungeon queues. Players that are already familiar with tanking and what it entails are still likely to encounter flak and poor expectations because of this, so get ready to prove the naysayers wrong!

However, Death Knights are still a powerful, versatile yet resilient, and fun class to play - they just get a lot of QQ from other players. To believe they are weak, underpowered, or 'squishy' would be a mistake.
...and at the very least, you could make one only to turn it into a fast-made profession slave...

EDIT: As an additional addendum, I want to to add the point that no, Death Knights are not overpowered, either. Merely being beaten by a player of any given class does not automatically make said class overpowered, and such claims are generally grouped with the above mentioned QQ.

Commento di andypoop20

Deathknights aren't as OP as you think

Commento di greathoudini

Can't wait till MoP, I would love to use that asphyxiate ability

Commento di Roayal

Also Teron Gorefiend was a death knight. I think he was using the unholy tree =)

Commento di 627921

my favorite class :)

Commento di Ksareon

Death knight is a very good class.I play one but if your spec is blood death knights are overpowered. :D

Commento di 911362

The thing i hate the most of WoW... Blood Elf DK /spit, but its really hard to beat em as a warrior

Commento di 909277

ok so i have a question can DKs get regular mounts like flying carpets?

Commento di 904441

You can only create 1 DK per realm but there isn't any restrictions for Realm Change

Commento di 904441

It would be nice if u could do another kind of the races, like Broken Draenei or Iron Dwarves, Leper Gnomes, Mag'hars...

Commento di jhoms

Hi everyone.. I have a DK tank 85, im tanking using dual weapons both a tanking 1 hand weapon Mace of Transformed Bone & Bloodlord's Protector they have STR , STA , parry and dodge rating + and my runeforge is Rune of the Nerubian Carapace.
Why did i use dual weapons while tanking? Because i cant find 2 hand weapons that have parry or dodge + for tanking.
Now I dont understand why some people are saying DK tank dont use 1 hand weapons you are a bad tank if you do that. Mostly they said i will be more squishee.
I dont understand why, but i thought i been tanking better with dual , maybe im not noticing anything bad. Some said because you only had 30% buffs from the group thats why you thought your a good to tank. Dual wielders DK tank are not good.
I dont really understand why is it not good guys, good DK tanks please explain this.

Commento di Misy

There is a mailbox close to DK startig zone, but you still have to do 10 quests before you can reach it. Once you reach q called "The Scarlet Harvest" you will have the option to use a Scourge Gryphon which will take you down the tower. Once you are down go straight forward. When you open your map you can see in upper part of the map a cave, to it's right a tower and to the left 3 houses up from a farm. The mail is placed in north of the farm, to the right of the southest house. Hope this is helpful.

Commento di 915524

An interesting idea for Death Knights during Mists of Pandaria?
Be able to "tame" (within reason) your own undead skin for use as a pet. heh?

Commento di Evilhristo

jhoms, when you use dual weapons make sure your armors have a haste rating and you can use a rune of razorice or rune of lichbane because dual weapons are weaker than Two-handed weapons but are faster, because of that you need more haste rating, and with that runes you can add some special damage.

EDIT: I use dual weapons emblazoned with rune of razorice and my armors are with haste rating.

Sorry for my english.

....and who says that the Dual wielders DK tank are not good?

Commento di 957168

Am I the only one who still thinks it's a bit weird they didn't choose frost to be the tanking tree? I mean I see why they chose blood but it's just a thought that's always been on my mind.

Commento di 959799

love DKs

Commento di Kalanch

Death (Darth?) Knights are the Sith of Azeroth.

Commento di 970662

i love the death knights

Commento di 619202

Till now DKs traditionally have been transforming following the next scheme:

Start of the expansion: Death Knight - brings you a death itself. It's unstoppable untill killed. You don't want it even to spot you.
In the midst of expansion: Nerf Knight - Not so dreadful. You can kill him alone.
Later patches: Nerfer Knight. More nerfs. Not a serious opponent, you can safely focus someone else.
End of the expansion: Dead Knight - squishy, weak, pathetic. Oh look, it's dead!

Considering that Blood is not a PVP spec.

Commento di 928054

Are runeforges begin removed/changed, i do not see them anywhere?

Commento di sandreid87

@KingArthis Actually if you played WC2 you would know that DKs originally were more like Mages or Warlocks, than they were in WC3. The Arthas-like DK you know in WC3 is NOTHING like the lich-like DKs from WC2. They ride around on a horse, which would look mostly like the Forsaken's Skeleton Horse, with a long cloak and a really creeping voice, cast spells left and right. Spells like Whirlwind (No not the Warrior version from WoW, it was an actual whirlwind!), raise the dead, give units haste, and more. With no ability to just autoattack, these units were pretty useless without their mana.

So yeah, nothing like the DKs in WoW now. I can only say I prefered the original version. This is just one of many things Blizzard have changed in the WarCraft lore over the years. The reason why it doesn't work, is because they keep changing the past, instead of making the present/future make sense with the current past.

Wiki:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Death_knight_(Warcraft_II)

(Just copy the line to get the the WC2 DK wíki site)

Sound files:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMLfaFJZcso

"I'M ALIVE!"

Commento di 982552

Winged Steed of the Ebon Blade is 950g due to rep with Knights of Ebon Blade...

Commento di 966344

Seriously, this class is the best (For me)

I have played Tauren Warrior PRETBC and a Undead Warlock in TBC.
With the fair pauses in between playing time may i add.
Anyways, those two classes were absolutely enjoyable but i wanted a mix! I wanted a dark warrior!
So in WOTLK when i heard WCIII topper the Death Knight was introduced. I just could not wait to play it.

... My warlock and warrior was never heard of again.
This class has the darkest feeling to it. I chose to be a Tauren. (Because, hey Death Grip + Stun = Awesome)
And it has never disappointed me. I always had a weak for specs that aren't in use that often because of the
surprise value. So i basically was a stealth cow in frost spec just to get all the DPS goodies. then switched to tanking spec in order to get the Hybrid feeling i was so used too. (this was in cataclysm)

..BEST CHOICE EVER.
I can not stress this enough, Death Knight is not like a warrior where you absolutely need a certain stat or otherwise you are doomed. No my friends, Death Knights, are, ABSOLUTE BEAASTSSSS.. Blood, Frost who the %^&* cares. If you wanna go hybrid you MUST ^&*!ING DO IT, since you cannot go hybrid by the use of talent points anymore.

I am so happy with this Class, i currently am taking a break from wow. And this might very well be my last message because I disagree on some of the choices of blizzard (Nothing of your worries, personal choice) but as i was playing this class with a long history of dark magic and melee skills behind me. I can, for sure tell you that it is absolutely freaking beast. Now i will not tell my spec or choices that i made inside my character to be able to say this, what i will tell you is that if you keep experimenting, and you have the vision to grab certain items as you journey, the choices are immense. Really really amazing class with almost endless possibilities PVP/PVE wise. And it has become my main class very, very fast.

Now sure there are those that disagree with me out of pure hatred for this NEWB class. And sure with the introduction of monks the same thing will happen.And yes a lot of people are completely clueless with death knights. And yes you can have your own opinion and cry as much as you so desire too.

All i am saying is that Death Knights hunger for your tears.
That one little misstep you made, boom countered and consumed.

YOUR TEARS ARE SO DELICIOUSLY SALTY IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.

Commento di 928054

How much dps does one lose by reforging crit>mastery w/o gurth as uh?, i ask, because i do not yet have to sets of dps gear, and enjoy playing frost DW,& UH

Commento di Wolfgenerator

On my server

There are

58 Cavaliere della Mortes everywhere

Mostly

Worgen Dks

It be

Really annoying mon

Commento di Kossel

Could someone make a PvP Guide for DK's a Unholy/Blood Set-up. I have been playing Blood forever i'd honestly say im about average PvP'er with my Blood DK. Im just looking for a new set-up that will help me improve. Thanks.

Commento di Thesneaker

The Death Knight is best class ever

Commento di 1010488

Dks are cool for arenas and stuff

Commento di 1014100

which is the most powerfull and the most simple talent?because I want the most powerfull,but I don't want to have a lot of skills...

Commento di BastinoCael

Deathknight great class, just too many frost dks... WHERE ARE THE UNHOLY ONES!

Commento di 1016415

Personally I think the BEST tankers are blood DK's and Feral tanks . . . .

Commento di i0am0joe0smoh

For any leveling/raiding blood dks, a good spec with reasonably good glyphs is http://www.wowhead.com/talent#k!LL|uwrzoc

Commento di Crypus

DKs should have different eye colors depending on their trees.

It's really weird to be a BLOOD DK but have to have frosty eyes....

Commento di 1017388

Blood tanking in MoP is pretty beastly

Commento di 1053817

Got some questions... for both WoW players AND people who comment on this thingy:

What are the most important stats for an unholy Death Knight?

How do I reply to someones comment?

Commento di 1056184

Does anyone know were I can go to train a death knight for expert mount rider? I need to be expert rider for a flying mount. I am a level 60 alliance death knight player.

Commento di perculia

5.4 Changes (Source)

Cavaliere della Morte

General

Portale della Morte now returns the Death Knight to a location near their original departure point when the spell is cast while in Ebon Hold.
Fermezza Glaciale no longer costs Runic Power.
Assalto Necrotico now deals 100% weapon damage (down from 150% weapon damage).
Runa della Lama di Ghiaccio now causes 3% extra weapon damage as Frost damage (up from 2%), and each stack of Frost Vulnerability now causes the target to take an additional 3% damage from the Death Knight's Frost attacks (up from 2%).
Soul Reaper's initial damage component has been increased by 30%. If the target is below 35% health after 5 seconds the amount of Shadow Damage dealt has been increased by 20%.
Ineluttabilità della Morte now grants a flat 10% Haste to all things, up from Haste for melee (attack speed and Rune regeneration) only. The movement speed buff remains unchanged.

Blood

is a new passive ability learned by Blood Death Knights at level 76. When the Death Knight dodges or parries any attack, they gain 75% of their Parry and Dodge as additional bonus to Critical Strike for 20 seconds.
Glyph of Dancing Rune Weapon no longer costs Runic Power.
no longer reduces the cost of Fermezza Glaciale.
now also has a chance to activate when the Death Knight dodges or parries a melee attack.

Frost

Assalto del Gelo now deals 115% weapons damage (up from 105% weapon damage).
Folata Gelida now deals 15% more damage.
Vigore delle Distese Ghiacciate now increases all melee attack damage by 30% (up from 20%).
Disintegrazione now deals 250% weapon damage (up from 230% weapon damage).

Unholy

now reduces the cooldown of Rianima Cadavere by 60 seconds.
Ghoul's Leap and Gnaw abilities are no longer on a global cooldown, and no longer cost Energy.
Vigore Empio now increases the Death Knight's Strength by 25% (up from 10%).

Talents

Area Antimagia has been redesigned. The talent now reduces magic damage taken in the area-of-effect by 40% for 3 seconds, and the ability no longer scales with strength.
Aspirazione Mortale had its damage increased by 10%.
Risucchio della Piaga now tries to convert 2 fully-depleted runes (up from 1) into a Death Rune based on specialization.

Blood: Restores 1 Frost Rune, 1 Unholy Rune
Frost: 1 Frost Rune, 1 Unholy Rune
Unholy: 1 Blood Rune, 1 Frost Rune

Glyphs

New Major Glyphs

Glifo Carbonizzato: Makes treat all targets as if they have been infected with Morbo del Sangue or Febbre del Gelo.
Glifo Carbonizzato: If Scudo Antimagia expires after its full duration, cooldown for the ability is reduced based on the amount of damage absorbed.
Glifo Carbonizzato: Haste effect granted by Soul Reaper now also increases the Death Knight's movement speed for the duration.
Glifo Carbonizzato: Corno Invernale now generates additional Runic Power, but the cooldown is increased.

Major Glyphs

Glifo Carbonizzato now reduces damage dealt by diseases by 15% (down from a 30% reduction).
Glifo Carbonizzato now reduces the cooldown of Gelo Mentale by 1 second, and raises its cost by 10 Runic Power (down from 2 seconds and 20 Runic Power).
Glifo Carbonizzato now causes Contagio to cost 30 Runic Power (down from 40).
Glifo Carbonizzato now reduces movement speed by 70% instead of freezing the Death Knight in place.

New Minor Glyphs

Glifo Carbonizzato: The Corno Invernale ability now lasts for 1 hour.
Glifo - Scheletro: The Death Knight's Rianima Cadavere spell now summons a Skeleton instead of a Ghoul.

Bug Fix

Fixed a bug that caused and Corruzione Runica to incorrectly increase activation rates of some trinkets and effects.

5.3 Changes

General

no longer benefits from the damage increase granted by Trucchi del Mestiere.
no longer benefits from the damage increase granted by Trucchi del Mestiere.
Assalto Necrotico's healing absorption effect has been increased to 225% from attack power, up from 200%.

Talents

Presa di Malacarne can now affect a maximum of 4 player targets. The number of non-player targets that can be affected remains unlimited.

Unholy

Condanna Improvvisa now requires the Death Knight to be in Ineluttabilità della Morte to activate the effect that causes Spira Mortale to cost no Runic Power.
Vigore Empio now increases the Death Knight's Strength by 10%, down from 15%.

5.2 Changes (Source)

Cavaliere della Morte

Aspirazione Mortale now heals for 150% of the damage dealt (was 100%).
Trasfusione Runica now costs 5 Runic Power plus 5 per second thereafter (was 10 Runic Power plus 10 per second).
Death Knights now maintain the same health percentage when switching into and out of Veterano della Terza Guerra.
The Bloodworms summoned by now have 200% more health and heals for triple the amount.
Strangolamento's cooldown has been reduced to 60 seconds, up from 120.
Asfissia's cooldown has been reduced to 30 seconds (was 1 minute)
Unholy

The Frost and Unholy tier-14 2-piece set bonus has reduced to 4% (was 10%) increased damage on Assalto del Gelo, Disintegrazione, and Assalto del Flagello.
now also applies to .
Evocazione: Gargoyle no longer costs Runic Power.
Assalto del Gargoyle now deals Shadow and Nature damage (was Nature only).
now causes to inflict , in addition to its other effects.

Mists of Pandaria Changes

Level 87 class ability: . Deals heavy Shadow damage if the target is below 35% health upon expiration. If the target dies while this effect is present, the Death Knight gains 50% haste for 10 sec.
Assoggetta Non Morto: Dominates the target undead creature, forcing it to do your bidding. While controlled, the time between the undead minion's attacks is increased by 30% and its casting speed is slowed by 20%. Lasts up to 5 min.
The base GCD is now 1 second. Formerly, this was attainable only with the old Ineluttabilità della Morte.
Corpse explosion is back as a glyph: Glifo Carbonizzato
Level 75 talents help rune regeneration: , Rigenerazione delle Rune, Corruzione Runica
Level 90 talents help with crowd-control: Presa di Malacarne, , Terra Sconsacrata
Buffs and Debuffs: Attack Power (Corno Invernale), Haste (), Physical Vulnerability (, ), Weakened Blows (), Slow Casting (Assalto Necrotico).
Blood Changes:
has been greatly reworked. It increases the healing and minimum healing done of Assalto della Morte now.
Patto con la Morte is now a talent and somewhat buffed. Drain vitality from an undead minion, healing the Death Knight for 50% of his maximum health and causing the minion to suffer damage equal to 50% of its maximum health.

Frost Changes:

increases Runic Power generation by 20%, and reducing the duration of effects that remove control of your character by 20%. Improved Frost Presence also reduces the cost of Frost Strike by 15 Runic Power.
Vigore delle Distese Ghiacciate now also increases the damage of Obliterate by a significant amount.
now also increases the damage of Frost Strike by a significant amount.

Unholy Changes:

no longer provides a magic debuff. It instead provides , formerly exclusive to Frost DKs.
Assalto di Sangue is only available to Unholy DKs.
no longer has an Enrage component.

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Commento di dragonight1993

I love the class Death Knight. :-)

Commento di 1071964

Finished reading about Death Knight. Would you consider the "Death Knight" as tne most powerful toon?

Commento di Shoadowolf

Dks have very good dps, have minions, can wear plate armor (to reduce damage by 42% and up to 50% Veterano della Terza Guerra with , and can tank. But the downside is, the cooldowns for the runes is 10 sec, and the dk has self-heal spells such as Assalto della Morte and Trasfusione Runica (Essenza del Lich+Spira Mortale is a good self heal combo if you have a lot of runic power. All in all, Dks are somewhat balanced.
Btw, this is coming from a 90 dk himself.

Commento di 1081086

Bought the winged steed for 1390 gold in wotlk;/

Commento di MrWilliams92

Essenza del Lich Healing Macro !
Want to heal without changing targets ? Simple enter EXACTLY whats typed below !

/cast lichborne
/cast Anti-Magic Shell
/cast Death Coil

This Macro will cast Essenza del Lich, Scudo Antimagia, and Spira Mortale at the same time, causing it to heal yourself WITHOUT changing from your current target. Continue to hit this mac until your out of runic power or until your full health.

Tips: Make sure you have enough runic power to set up the perfect time use this wonderful mac. Spamming this macro while kiting the target is the best way to survive! Unholy Death Knights will ALWAYS be healed more from this marco!
Glifo Carbonizzato will help you conserve runic power, causing you to heal more and boosting survivability!

Hope i have help all you Death Knights out there !

Commento di celian2008

Still love playing my Death Knight :)

Commento di 1088173

The class for a death-knight, for me it is very fun to play. The very nice thing about this class, is that it starts at level 55 and after you get out of the starting zone, you hop right into burning crusade dungeons:) Another nice thing about being a dk, is that plate armor drops very good in bc dungeons:) Some issues i come up with a death-knight, whenever i'm in a dungeon, I feel that other people have been level up a chareter since level one, and my class, a dk, started at 55, ( that's just my own opinion).

Thats my opinion on a death knight:)

Commento di cjshoot999

which weapon/weapons would be the best for a frost dk? doing most attacks with weapons.

Commento di 1083582

death knight are a very good class for soloing raid and heroic dongeon
the frost is a very good talent for soloing if you ave good gears and
but in blood you ave this and a physic damage absortion shell that absorb melee damage from incoming attacs

Commento di 1083582

did ave specific race that ave more power full and more help full race specific abiliti for death knight

Commento di 1093417

By far the funniest class to play. In my opinion.

Commento di 1101126

In my opinion it is the classe for Tanking.(if you are blood)

Commento di 1104125

since most (if not all) races are can be death knights, i think you should play your character and then upon reaching lvl 56 be able to choose death knight or continue playing as normal character. but then i am a noob and really haven't played one yet....but it seems to make more sense...then you have a feel of the hero character you were supposed to have been...just my two sense....

Commento di Orruon

Sad it took me so long to finally try a Death Knight, first class after playing Druid for eight years that felt fun to play.

Commento di Teraculus01

i hate how people who lose duels to DKs NEVER admit it was because the DK has skill, at least for me its always " DK is OP anyways" or something along those lines, anyone else ever get this?

Commento di hungai

As frost, gem on yellows haste, blu's haste + hit, on red's str + haste
Enchant haste, thats how dps comes on frost dk's : )

Commento di 1141110

Blood Death Knights are in most cases the best class for a DK, with both the ability to withstand large amounts of damage and the ability to heal themselves frequently they are a force to be reckoned with and perfect for both PvE & PvP.

With the use of 2 Assalto della Morte's & 4 Aspirazione Mortale's a Death Knight can regain > 74% of their health whilst also dealing a great amount of damage to the enemy.

Commento di Chaosrex

Might be a stupid question, but i was wondering, if it would be good to dualwield has a Unholy Dk...

i mean with fast weapons and the flat out Haste bonus of the Unholy presence, you are constantly hitting stuffs at an indecent rate.

Now there is a few issues with this, and thats what i wanted to ask, when using an attack like Death strike, plaque strike and such, do the dmg of the two weapons be taken into account, or just the main hand weapon?

i ask this because of a silly reason, i would like to dualwield some transmo 1-hands weapons i like, but i don't want to leave my unholy spec.

I tried to take Frost as my second spec, seeing that i don't Tank anyway, but the game just doesn't let me choose a second DPS role it seems(or i did something wrong...).

Would it be worhtwhile, or would it be simply gimping myself?

Commento di icito

Still the best class for soloing old content.

Commento di Kataclysia

My Thoughts on Death Knights:

Although I have not played a Death Knight since the days of Wrath I can say that I did love Unholy Death Knights. Back in the Lich King era I had three characters: A Marksman Hunter, An Unholy Death Knight, and a Discipline Priest. I spent most of my time on the Hunter, however, the Death Knight received her fair share of play time especially in PvP.

I plan on rerolling an Unholy Death Knight as soon as I am able to and I am sure that once again that character will rise to the top as one of my favorites. It will have more competition though as I will have eleven characters this time around.

I really like some of the changes they made to Death Knights since the days I had one. I look forward to playing a new Death Knight.

Commento di Sarthorius

If you just used your 90 boost on your dk, and wonder why Mograine wont talk to you, and want to learn of class abilities, specialization, etc, talt instead to Lord Thorval, on one of the cubicles at same room of Darion (below floor).

Commento di Darkaara

Don't know how to play my class, still do over 20k DPS!
Cookie to whoever gets the reference!

Commento di rez1239

great class if you have a good mount of exp the blood tanks are a little op but its a great clss highly recomend it

Commento di gaanjar

Deathknights are the best.

Commento di 1319483

As of patch 5.4.8, after 2 years of Mists of Pandaria, I can finally claim that the Frost Death Knight is the main reason for my continuous subscription in this game.

Prologue: Tracing back to patch 4.0 and being continuously stubborn to try Unholy, a spec that would not really offer me the sheer adrenaline that the old Blood Death Knights were all about, I decided to stick with Frost, giving it a tryout period before deciding which of the two specs I should follow along my path to this unknown exile, now that the Lich King was gone and my Order's retribution complete. After nearly four years of playing almost exclusively in Frost, I would like to extend to my fellow DKs and preach the melancholic beauty and relentless onslaught that I addicted myself to in battlegrounds, arenas and other sorts of PvP practices as a manipulator of the Chill beyond the Grave.

semi RP_off

Part 1: PvP background as a Frost DK throughout the expansions
Being a Frost DK in MoP, is just as prestigious as it was back in Wrath. Or back in Cata, for that matter. Which isn't much. Frost has always been overshadowed by Unholy, especially in Arenas, mainly due to Unholy's enormous capacity of control on the enemy team with its spread damage and Assalto Necrotico's capability of draining healers dry. Thus, Frost was always neglected by high ranked players and was mainly left for the less important, yet for many people more enjoyable, Battlegrounds.
It was during Cataclysm that Frost gained more attention with the Rated Battlegrounds, which did add a somehow different approach to PvP. Many DKs, myself included, found out that with Frost, we could combine one of the most entertaining aspects of the game, Burst Damage, with teams combined of various classes and specs that could allow such gameplay to take place. Arenas kept going in the same direction that they have always been headed at, with Unholy becoming the primary spec and Frost the secondary one, so many people focused mostly in RBGs.

Part 2: PvP background as a Frost Dk in present-day MoP patches

--- Being actively playing throughout the entire expansion as a Frost DK, at ratings of 2000 in both 2s-3s-5s arenas and RBGs, therefore any of the following deductions regarding the class are primarily based around this experience ---

With the introduction of MoP and the removal of the old talent trees *sob*, Frost saw little change in its primary way of playing. However, for the first time, Disintegrazione saw some deep, intimate love from the PvP design team, since its damage as opposed to Cataclysm, received a significant boost while wielding a 2 Handed Weapon. Therefore, in RBGs and Arenas, the steady AOE damage of the Dual Wield spec was replaced with the tremendous single-target burst damage of the Two-Handed spec. And for a long time, as long as patch 5.2, Frost DKs were a common site in RBGs and arenas. Until 5.3 boosted the healing absorption of Necros, something that led a massive hysteria (DK joke, can't be the only one recalling it) towards getting Unholies as the main target caller of the RBG and almost wiping out the arena population of Frost DKs. As of now, in 5.4, the chances of seeing a Frost DK in RBG or arena above 2k mmr are just as many as getting a glimpse on Nessy.

Part 3: PvP as a Frost DK in Rated Battlegrounds
--- Due to the variations required in both talents and glyphs, I thought that distinguishing the gameplay between RBGs and Arenas was quite essential ---
For RBGs, maintaining AOE dmg through Folata Gelida is very important. The total output for matches where teams are bound to stay together, like Warsong Gulch and Twin Peaks, can extend even above those of a SPriest or Unholy DK (Ok, ok, Affliction is excluded!) due to HB's instant area of effect damage.
I personally believe that Sciame Empio and are by far the best choices for talents. Roiling Blood ends up a huge waste on death runes (Remember, no blood runes in Frost!) and Plague Leech is very situation dependent, while the Blight effect allows a cost-free disease spreading during a Presa di Malacarne pull. Also, while Death's Advance and Asphyxiate can be very useful (situation-dependent again), the fact that Frost DKs get not only 4 runes to use for HB spam, but also the Brina effect, not to mention the extraordinary peels provided from the immobilizing Catene di Ghiaccio, makes Chillblains the most logical choice.
Apart from abilities, a Frost DK is unable to make just as much impact in Veterano della Terza Guerra as the UH DK, mainly due to the increase of Assalto del Gelo's cost, which limits both his lvl 75 talent proc chances and thus his overall damage. DKs without their defensive CDs are vulnerable, so what's important for a Frost DK is to keep a constant "Stance Dance" on, being able to switch from Blood to in a moment's notice if the enemy team switches to him.
Last but not least, keeping reserves in Runic Power can be used to a great extent while counting down to burst a single target. I personally find for that reason Corruzione Runica to be more preferable than the other two. While it is a chance based proc, when you boost to full 100/100 RP and then instantly switching on a target, you can first begin with 5 consecutive Frost Strikes, so that even if you can't spam straight out 3 Obliterates, you have a very big chance to trigger a back-to-back proc from RC, which ends up in 4 consecutive Obliterates.

Part 4: PvP as a Frost DK in Arenas
While in RBGs, a Frost DK's HB is very important in order to maintain damage, in 2s and 3s using runes for HB over Obliterate is not required. Instead, the only time for a Frost DK to use HB is through the Brina procc, or if your target is far away. Also, Chillblains is not necessary, so Asphyxiate can be used to a great extend, like Unholy. However, what's important in arenas for a Frost DK, is to be able to keep constant melee damage and pressure, since allowing a healer or an enemy DPS to escape away (Not sure how people can manage to do this, totally beyond me - maybe because i keep using Chillblains in arenas too?) can prove catastrophic, especially lately with all the increase in healing capacities for most classes. Unlike UH, where small pauses during cc are allowed and not really as important, Frost damage has to be constant in order to prove successful.
In 2s, every DK has to adapt his glyphs and talents according to the team on the opposite site. For 3s, his options start running lower and lower, yet still variable, and for 5s the spec can closely resemble the RBG specs: Unholy Blight-Lichborne-Chillblains and Deathpact (yes, Patto con la Morte - 10k tics when 4 or more dps switch to you is nonexistant compared to pure 200k healing gained instantly on one switch. And like I mentioned before, chances are you will find yourself in Frost Presence).
Last tip: Make sure, unless you play with full mastery gemchants and reforges, to avoid plate wearers as primary targets. The PURE PHYSICAL DMG of Obliterate proves to be minimal against plate.

And that's where my remaining characters start to diminish. I hope this comment helped anybody who considers to play Frost. Feel free to argue with me, and sorry if you literally want to peck your eyes out with the comment's length. I've been loving this spec for most of the expansion (screw u, 5.2!) and I can totally imagine myself playing it

Commento di FrostandFyre

I would like to see Acherus during Winter's Veil.

Deck the halls of Ach-er-us
La-la-la-la la la la!
Tis the season to be murderous
La-la-la-la la la la la!
Don we now our Scourge apparel
La-la-la-la la la la!
Slay them all 'cause Arthas says so
La-la-la-la la la la!

Commento di 1328846

Dk best class for tank

Commento di Euranz

best class ever.

Commento di 1352890

My favourite class :)

Commento di 1353257

sigils are coming back?

Commento di 1377840

Another Class that I am really enjoying at the moment. The Death Knight, as for Spec it would be Blood. Honestly feel like I'm a unstoppable force to be reckoned with. As for my favorite Race for this Class, it would be between Orc and Human. One from each Faction. :)

Commento di LordBloodmourne

Loving my continued life as a Dk into WoD. Unholy has finally reached a nice stable niche in the groups as well as a comfortable position on the damage meters. I want to clear up some confusion that there seems to be around the web. Currently as of 10 days after launch it seems, stat priorities for Unholy DK DPS is Str>Mastery>=Multistrike> Crit> Vers> Haste. the consensus also being that the lvl 100 talent of choice is defile it seems.

Commento di Dogey

l twink is best class for wod!

Commento di 1444894

I Think The New Hero Class Is Survival With Traps , Net , Strikes , Natural Heals And Many Spells

Commento di Ellada

As found in the Patch 6.1 notes:

Removed the requirement to have a character that's level 55 or higher to unlock the Death knight as a playable class.

Commento di Eido

All automatically learned Cavaliere della Morte glyphs by level:

Level 50: , .
Level 75: .

source

Commento di Cyberium

I miss the time when DK has three types of tanking style: Blood being the self-healing, Frost gets aoe, and Unholy is the best magic tank around. It was epic.

Then, for ease of balance Blizz decided to make Blood the only tanking tree. Sigh.

Commento di Deathegg

Straight Outta Stormwind, crazy mutha^&*!a named Eastoakland
From the gang Fallen Star on Velen
When I , you say goodnight
Slow yo' ass down with
My transmog makes ya'll look shabby;
bikini plate chest gets da fanboys happy
in the pants and they say gratz when
I'm poppin' achievements like Xanax.
Goin' off on rude playas in trade chat
with a quip for that anonymous ass.
But overall, I'm a chill dude;
Ain't no tellin when I'm down for a raid que.
Got the lyrics to keep you laughin,
with more content than this Warlord expansion.
Frost DK dual wield is the toon
night elf wit' dat .
Me and you can duel and just maybe
I might win if I catch you bein' lazy.
No BG, Arena Team, or RP
I'm about dat sexmog and PVE
and auctioning off anything BOE
and some pet leveling.
If you wanna chat, be quick, don't think
cuz I'm on my alt before you blink.
When I goin to my garrison
I'm in Trade District, hearthin' Straight Outta
Stormwind.

Commento di Ryantdodd

Can death nights dual wield

Commento di Boxofbeer

Each class in Legion has a long class hall quest chain — campaign. During that chain you'll raise your power and power of your class hall. You'll train followers, gear them, research your artifact and other things. Each class has diferent campaign, only few quests are the same.

There are Cavaliere della Morte class hall campaign quests:
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Cavaliere della Morte class hall campaign
1	98	Chiamata in guerra
2	98	Di necessità, virtù	First artifact chosen	https://youtu.be/AtUDRXtoSC0
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Morso del Dannato quest chain
	98	Il morto e il dannato	Morso del Dannato	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVy9Nh3azNo
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Lame del Principe Caduto quest chain
	98	Chiamata della Corona di Ghiaccio	Lame del Principe Caduto	https://youtu.be/N&*!@cpyFDM
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Apocalisse quest chain
	98	Apocalisse	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Fgn1qN8Jg
	98	Sulle tracce della maledizione	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97rkI1KMX_Q
	98	Frugando nel passato	https://youtu.be/JvsSddIL7zM
	98	Un compito raccapricciante	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvsSddIL7zM
	98	Cavalieri Oscuri	https://youtu.be/ZtPGYEkZtzE
	98	Il richiamo della vendetta	Apocalisse
3	98	Sul filo di lama	https://youtu.be/FyWVSY9oDT4
4	98	Incisione di rune avanzata	Affinità di Sangue,Lame del Gelo or Banchetto di Anime
98	Piani e preparativi	https://youtu.be/uMET2aCylCQ
6	98	La nostra prossima mossa	Choose a zone to attack
98	Il ritorno dei Quattro Cavalieri		https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ7xO0fFCXA
8	98	Il primogenito	https://youtu.be/sn7VrerSqQc
9	101	Chiamata ad Acherus
101	L'avvento dei campioni	300 x Risorse per l'Enclave
101	Campione: Nazgrim	Nazgrim
101	Campione: Thassarian	Thassarian
101	Spargere la voce	Spargere la voce
101	Reclutare le truppe	Ghoul training
101	Truppe sul campo
101	Salanar il Cavaliere	Salanar il Cavaliere
101	Impegnarsi a fondo	Class hall upgrades500 x Risorse per l'EnclaveGloria dell'Ordine
103	Regno in rovina		http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22N8zGe2w0k
17	103	I nostri più antichi nemici	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dw07oOIHO0
18	103	Morte... e distruzione	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la8kcbjP7BY
19	103	Regicidio	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxnWYXfWuAI
20	103	Rianimare il re		http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLq_bjtdKY8
	103	Campione: Thoras Cacciatroll	Thoras Cacciatroll
103	Una richiesta personale	1000 x Risorse per l'EnclaveLapide del GhoulGloria dell'Ordine	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPeK6nXEmw8
	103	Campione: Koltira Plasmamorte	Koltira Plasmamorte
103	Destrieri dei Dannati	Destrieri caduti: La sella del PredatoreDestrieri caduti: La sella del Cavaliere Senza TestaDestrieri caduti: La sella del BaroneDestrieri caduti: Le Redini dell'OmbraDestrieri caduti: La sella della Corona di GhiaccioDestrieri caduti: Le Redini dell'Ombra
103	Cavalieri della Spada d'Ebano	Knights of the Ebon Blade training
103	Antro di Neltharion: Treccia del Re delle Profondità	Antro di Neltharion run needed	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9VvralTWg
25	103	Boschetto Cuortetro: La Frusta dell'Incubo	Boschetto Cuortetro run needed	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz_8mw6Acb0
26	110	Un'armatura degna della morte stessa	Elmo del Signore della Morte
110	L'Assalto Scarlatto	250 x Risorse per l'Enclave	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0T5ldsODXg
28	110	Il Massacro Scarlatto		http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPW3jqwD8i4
29	110	Rianimare un esercito	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnxTKVxN_x0
30	110	Il Comandante Scarlatto	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8CXS3GK6Ig
31	110	Rianimare la Zelota	1500 x Risorse per l'EnclaveGloria Superiore dell'Ordine	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj7NHQWo-pU
32	110	Campionessa: Grande Inquisitrice Biancachioma	Grande Inquisitrice Biancachioma
110	Progredire nella guerra	20 WQ have to be done
110	Aggregati dell'Angoscia	Emanazioni empie: Essenza del RancoreEmanazioni empie: Essenza dell'OscuritàEmanazioni empie: Essenza dell'OmbraEmanazioni empie: Essenza di Non MorteEmanazioni empie: Essenza della PauraEmanazioni empie: Essenza dell'Oscurità
110	Sete di sangue	5 x Sangue di Sargeras needed
110	Segrete delle Custodi: Un capolavoro di carne	Segrete delle Custodi run needed	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sm4eZRKkGU
	110	Campione: Torcibudella	VentremarcioBracciali del Signore della Morte
110	Occhio di Azshara: L'anima congelata	Occhio di Azshara run needed	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs8LZUU9Wuk
	110	Campione: Amal'thazad	Amal'thazad
110	Fauci delle Anime: Maglio dei Morti	Alture degli Helmunn run needed	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RyCiO8RO00
39	110	Il Quarto Cavaliere	5000 x Risorse per l'EnclaveCorazza Foderata del Signore della MorteGloria Superiore dell'OrdineUna gloriosa campagna	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQjrqOunHow
40	110	Campione: Darion Mograine	Gran Signore Darion MograineCampioni in lista
110	L'arma di un eroe	3rd relic slotForgiato per la guerra

Commento di heartlessnobody

hey can we get an update with the page intro for DKs because Death's Advance is gone and Spell #48266 got burnt

Sucks DKs aren't speedy anymore

Commento di Vikinng

Good information TY

Commento di snakesorin

Thank you for this guide ! It was very helpful.

',..,'

Commento di ann1993

Hello guys

If i have 199,200 health on my female dk . My char is 85 lvl(max on cata)
199,200 is 11,154 attribute
so how much attribute stamina will be 200,000?

please answer

thanks in top

Commento di ShaggyScooby

What sword is the Orc DK wielding in the pic on the class overview page? Here's the link in case: https://www.wowhead.com/classes

Thanks in advance for an answer!

Commento di sitecow09

ALL races can now be death knights. The lore being, after BFA, so many heroes of the Alliance and Horde were killed fighting each other, that to defend Azeroth from other threats the Ebon Blade enlisted Bolvar's help to raise new death knights. Hence why you now have nightborne, vulpera, dark iron, pandaren, zandalari, etc death knights running around. With the Lich King's power, even worgen and Lightforged can join the fun!

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