Cypher of the First Ones - Zereth Mortis Outdoor Progression System

By Neryssa Updated: 2022/03/28

Recommended Cypher Research PriorityCyphers of the First Ones

Metrial Understanding > Aealic Understanding > Dealic Understanding > Trebalim Understanding
If you're interested in more Enlightened Reputation, unlock Cachial Understanding after Metrial Understanding for the third World Quest and Altonian Understanding after Aealic Understanding for the third Daily Quest;

If you're interested in mount farming, unlock Sopranian Understanding after Dealic Understanding.

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More Daily and World Quests in Zereth Mortis, slightly increasing the speed you farm Enlightened reputation with;

Improvements to your Pocopoc unit like faster energy regeneration and higher maximum Energy limits, a dedicated DPS/Healer setup for Pocopoc, or even using Pocopoc to control wildlife to help you in combat;

Temporary Enhancements that work in both Zereth Mortis and Shadowlands outdoor zones, with eventually getting an option to socket them on special gear permanently;

A crafting system to craft Zereth Mortis-themed Battle Pets and Mounts by using Zereth Mortis reagents;

Equipment item level increases in Zereth Mortis also come from interacting with the Cypher of the First Ones system - The higher is your Cypher equipment, the higher the ilvl of pieces from Zereth Mortis.

Unlocking the Cyphers of the First Ones SystemForming an UnderstandingCyphers of the First OnesMetrial UnderstandingCyphers of the First OnesCypher Console Panelbut be mindful that this script command can change other UIs with the Cypher Console.Farming Cyphers of the First OnesCyphers of the First OnesCyphers of the First Ones

10-15 Cyphers of the First Ones for completing Daily Quests in Zereth Mortis;

62-70 Cyphers of the First Ones from Tribute of the Enlightened Elders, reward from the Patterns Within Patterns bi-weekly quest;

80 Cyphers of the First Ones from the Zereth Mortis world boss world quest Antros;

2-4 Cyphers of the First Ones from rares and treasure chests.

2-4 Cyphers of the First Ones from Caches of Creation and interacting with Echoed Jiro, explained further in the guide.

Get 50% More Cyphers With Improvised Cypher Analysis ToolImprovised Cypher Analysis ToolCyphers of the First OnesOlea ManuAltonian UnderstandingJiro to HeroBroken CircleCaches of Creation PuzzlesCachial UnderstandingCyphers of the First Ones

You can either use 2 Pocopoc Energy to attempt to solve the puzzle yourself (the Energy will be spent once the puzzle is completed);

Or you can use 9 Pocopoc Energy to have Pocopoc solve the puzzle for you, granting the rewards instantly.

Below we have some locations for the Caches of Creation scattered in Zereth Mortis. Be mindful that not all these locations will contain a puzzle every day.

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Mezzonic CacheMezzonic CacheMezzonic CacheMezzonic CacheMezzonic CacheMezzonic CacheMezzonic CacheMezzonic CacheMezzonic CacheMezzonic Cache
Fugueal CacheFugueal CacheFugueal CacheFugueal CacheFugueal CacheFugueal CacheFugueal CacheFugueal CacheFugueal CacheFugueal Cache
Glissandian CacheGlissandian CacheGlissandian CacheGlissandian CacheGlissandian CacheGlissandian CacheGlissandian CacheGlissandian CacheGlissandian CacheGlissandian Cache
Toccatian CacheToccatian CacheToccatian CacheToccatian CacheToccatian CacheToccatian CacheToccatian CacheToccatian CacheToccatian CacheToccatian Cache

Core shape;

Number of core shapes;

Border shape;

Number of border shapes.

Echoed JirosCyphers of the First OnesCyphers of the First OnesCreatian

Rank 1: Southwestern Zereth Mortis

Rank 2: Southeastern Zereth Mortis

Rank 3: Northwestern Zereth Mortis

Rank 4: Northeastern Zereth Mortis

Echial

Nascii Jiro
Nascii Jiro
Nascii Jiro
Nascii Jiro
Nascii Jiro
Nascii Jiro
Nascii Jiro
Nascii Jiro

Genesii Jiro
Genesii Jiro
Genesii Jiro
Genesii Jiro
Genesii Jiro
Genesii Jiro
Genesii Jiro
Genesii Jiro

Creatii Jiro
Creatii Jiro
Creatii Jiro
Creatii Jiro
Creatii Jiro
Creatii Jiro
Creatii Jiro

Pocopoc: A Friend in Zereth MortisCyphers of the First OnesSummon PocopocPocopoc Energy

Once Cachial Understanding is researched, Pocopoc uses Energy to interact with Caches of Creation - 2 Energy to allow you to solve the puzzle, or 9 Energy to overload the cache, solving the puzzle for you.

Once Aealic Understanding is researched, Pocopoc can use 6 Energy to generate a random temporary enhancement at Enhancement Consoles in Haven, Exile's Hollow and Pilgrim's Grace.

Once Dealic Understanding is researched, Pocopoc can use 1 Energy to control Coreless creatures in Zereth Mortis. While it controls a Coreless creature, it can use 2 Energy to cast a special ability.

Once Trebalim Understanding is researched, Pocopoc can use 2 Energy on different abilities, depending on whether he's on Aggressive or Supportive mode.

Once Bassalim Understanding is researched, Pocopoc can use 5 Energy to controll Coreless Guardians. These automa allows you and two party members to wreak havoc around the zone.

<Encourage Pocopoc to look out for noteworthy objects>. - This option activates the Perceptive Pocopoc buff. Pocopoc starts looking for objects of interest, and will point them out to you once you approach one. Pocopoc can look for the following interesting things, depending on how far you're into the Cypher research:
Lore Concordances;

Caches of Creation, once Cachial Understanding is researched;

Echoed Jiros, once Echial is researched;

Coreless Automa, Elusive Mining/Herb nodes and Forgotten Treasure Vaults once Corial is researched.

View more advanced options.Trebalim UnderstandingView costume options.Steady BlastPocopoc RechargeCypher Equipment Level - Zereth Mortis Item Level IncreasesDimensional Translators

Cypher Equipment starts at Level 1, with Zereth Mortis gear being ilvl233.

Cypher Equipment Level 2 starts at 0 Cyphers of the First Ones, and upgrades gear to ilvl 239.

Cypher Equipment Level 3 starts at 0 Cyphers of the First Ones, and upgrades gear to ilvl 242.

Cypher Equipment Level 4 starts at 0 Cyphers of the First Ones, and upgrades gear to ilvl 246.

Cypher Equipment Level 5 starts at 0 Cyphers of the First Ones, and upgrades gear to ilvl 249.

Cypher Equipment Level 6 starts at 0 Cyphers of the First Ones, and upgrades gear to ilvl 252.

Cypher of the First Ones Researches

There are four columns of research, each type serving a different purpose. Only limitation to researching is that you need to research the first talent of each column to advance into the next research column, and to research other talents down that column.

All research is done within the Cypher Console located in Exile's Hollow.

Metrial Tree

Metrial Tree - Core Systems

Research

Cost

Research Time

Metrial Understanding

5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Instant

Cachial Understanding

5 Cyphers of the First Ones

1 Hour

Creatian

0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Echial

0 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds

Visial

0 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds

Metrial Understanding

Cost: 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: Instant

Activates Pocopoc, and grants access to Lore Concordances in Zereth Mortis. Pocopoc generates 1 Energy every 6 minutes, up to a maximum of 10. Activating a Lore Concordance will grant a beneficial combat effect to all players within 50 yds for 10 min if you have full understanding of the Concordance.

Summon PocopocCachial Understanding

Cost: 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 1 Hour

Allows you to attempt to decrypt Caches of Creation. Ask Pocopoc to seek out and mark nearby Caches on your minimap. Successfully decrypting Caches of Creation awards Cyphers of the First Ones.

Cyphers of the First OnesCreatian

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Allows Pocopoc to activate Echoed Jiro, granting you increased movement speed, additional Progenitor Essentia from gathering, or reducing the radius at which enemies will detect you. Pocopoc can activate Echoed Jiro in certain regions of Zereth Mortis depending on rank.

Echoed Jiro Creatii: Gift of the Creatii

Echoed Jiro Genesii: Gift of the Genesii

Echoed Jiro Nascii: Gift of the Nascii

Cyphers of the First Ones

Rank 1: Southwestern Zereth Mortis

Rank 2: Southeastern Zereth Mortis

Rank 3: Northwestern Zereth Mortis

Rank 4: Northeastern Zereth Mortis

Echial

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds

Allows you to ask Pocopoc to seek out and mark nearby Echoed Jiro on your minimap.

Cyphers of the First OnesCreatianVisial

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds

Grants access to the Core Configuration Console in Exile's Hollow, allowing you to customize Pocopoc's appearance.

Aealic Tree

Aealic Tree - Console Upgrades

Research

Cost

Research Time

Aealic Understanding

5 Cyphers of the First Ones

18 Hours

Altonian Understanding

0 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Days 18 Hours

Simlic

0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Enlic

5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Tilic

0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Elic

5 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds

Aealic Understanding

Cost: 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 18 Hours

Grants access to Enhancement Consoles in Exile's Hollow, Haven and Pilgrim's Grace. Spending Pocopoc Energy at an Enhancement Console grants you a choice of temporary powers that work in Shadowlands outdoor areas and Oribos.

Absorptialic: 10% chance to absorb enemy Spell damage.

Alacrialic: Haste increased by 5%.

Deflectialic: 10% chance to deflect enemy Physical attacks.

Efficialic: Your abilities have a 20% chance to incur no cooldown.

Extractialic: Increase gold from looting creatures and completing quests by 10%.

Fortialic: This effect will absorb a lethal attack, recovering 25% of your maximum health instead. This effect can only occur once every 10 min.

Flexialic: Versatility increased by 5%.

Focialic: Mastery increased by 5%.

Healialic: Restores 1% of maximum health to raid or party members within 30 yards every second.

Obscurialic: Avoidance increased by 10%.

Osmosialic: Leech increased by 5%.

Perceptialic: Critical Strike chance increased by 5%.

Potentialic: Primary Stat increased by 5%.

Constialic: Stamina increased by 10%.

Reflectialic: 5% chance to reflect incoming damage back to the attacker.

Relialic: Your equipment suffers no durability loss.

Rigialic: Critical damage and healing increased by 20%.

Robustialic: Protects the bearer from stun, root, and snare effects. This effect can only occur once every 30 sec

Toxicialic: Inflict 6% max health damage to up to 5 enemies within 40 yards every 5 seconds. Elite enemies suffer 2% max health damage.

Velocialic: Speed increased by 10% and Mount Speed increased by 20%.

Altonian Understanding

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Days 18 Hours

Allows you to communicate, interact, and quest with various jiro in the Untamed Verdure, Terrace of Formation, and Pilgrim's Grace.

A new questline with Hanoa the Exile, starting with Broken Circle, will be available at the Terrace of Formation.
Completing this questline grants a new daily quest near Pilgrim's Grace, and the vendor Olea Manu in Exile's Hollow. This vendor sells useful Zereth Mortis items such as the Improvised Cypher Analysis Tool.

Simlic

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Allows you to have 3 / 4 / 6 powers from Enhancement Consoles active at once.

Enlic

Cost: 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Reduces the cost of choosing a power at an Enhancement Console to 5 / 4 / 2 Pocopoc Energy.

SimlicTilic

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Increase the duration of powers from Enhancement Consoles to 30 / 45 / 60 minutes.

Elic

Cost: 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds

Enhancement Consoles now create Crystallic Spheroids instead of Fluidic Spheroids. Crystallic Spheroids can be used to gain a temporary power as normal, or they can be placed into equipment with Crystallic Sockets. Socketing a Crystallic Spheroid will grant you its power as long as you are wearing the item in Shadowlands outdoor areas and Oribos.

crystallized formCrystallic Cypher gearDealic Tree

Dealic Tree - Wildlife Control

Research

Cost

Research Time

Dealic Understanding

0 Cyphers of the First Ones

3 Days 18 Hours

Sopranian Understanding

0 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Days 18 Hours

Corial

0 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds

Destrian

5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Allian

5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Enrian

5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Dealic Understanding

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 3 Days 18 Hours

Allows Pocopoc to temporarily take control of Coreless Automa. Increases your understanding of Lore Concordances. Grants you access to the Synthesis Forge south of Pilgrim's Grace, which can be used in toe discovery and creation of small creatures.

Coreless creaturesProtoform SynthesisSopranian Understanding

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Days 18 Hours

Allows you to communicate, interact, and quest with Automa in the Arrangement Index and Endless Sands. Improves your understanding of the Synthesis Forge, allowing for the discovery and creation of larger creatures.

A new questline with Glimmercane in the Untamed Verdure, starting with Mysterious Greenery;

A new questline with Tahli at the Arrangement Index, starting with Finding Tahli. This questline eventually unlocks the second forge for the Protoform Synthesis system, allowing you to craft mounts with reagents from Zereth Mortis.

Corial

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds

Allows you to ask Pocopoc to seek out and mark nearby Coreless Automa on your minimap. Allows Pocopoc to communicate with wildlife and asks it to track valuables in hard-to-reach locations. Valuables may include forgotten treasure vaults, or elusive herbs and mineral deposits.

Forgotten Treasure VaultElusive Nightshade, First Flower, Elethium and Progenium nodesDestrian

Cost: 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Coreless Automa controlled by Pocopoc deal 5% / 10% / 15% more Physical damage and have 10% / 20% / 30% more health.

Allian

Cost: 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Increases the duration of Pocopoc's control of Automa to 5 / 7 / 10 min. Reduces the cooldown of controlled Automa abilities by 5 / 10 / 15 sec.

Enrian

Cost: 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Increases Pocopoc's Energy generation to 1 Energy every 5 / 4 / 3 min.

Trebalim Tree

Trebalim Tree - Pocopoc Upgrades

Research

Cost

Research Time

Trebalim Understanding

0 Cyphers of the First Ones

3 Days 18 Hours

Bassalim Understanding

5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

1 Day 18 Hours (Rank 1)
5 Seconds (Ranks 2-3)

Deflim

0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 4 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Suplim

0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Maxlim

0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Trebalim Understanding

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 3 Days 18 Hours

Enhances Pocopoc to allow you to choose an Aggressive or Supportive combat focus, and grants Pocopoc a new combat ability while in one of these roles. Allows you to completely understand Lore Concordances.

When set to Aggressive coroutine, Pocopoc becomes a melee fighter and can use Spin Cycle for 2 Pocopoc Energy to deal damage to enemies around it.

When set to Supportive coroutine, Pocopoc becomes a healer and can use Restorative Light for 2 Pocopoc Energy to heal you for 20% of your maximum health.

Bassalim Understanding

Cost: 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 1 Day 18 Hours (Rank 1), 5 Seconds (Ranks 2-3)

Allows Pocopoc to take control of a Coreless Guardian for 3 / 4/ 5 mins. You can 2 party members can drive the Guardian to wreak havoc in Zereth Mortis. Reduces the cooldown of the Guardian's active abilities by 10 / 20 / 30 secs.

Coreless Guardian

Crashendo: Rushes forward 25 yards and deals damage to 3 targets on impact.

Discordant Slam: Deals Physical damage to nearby enemies on impact and reduces movement speed by 30% for 5 seconds.

Vortex: Releases a vortex of steel that deals Physical damage to nearby targets every second for 2 seconds.

Left Boost / Right Boost: Increases the Resonant Guardian's movement speed by 25% for 3 sec. This boost can stack up to 6 times. With the abilities having a 4-second cooldown, the 2 additional players riding the Resonant Guardian must coordinate to keep it up at all times.

Poco-Boom!: Deals Physical damage and knocks back enemies in front of the Resonant Automa, slowing their movement speed by 80% for 2 seconds.

Deflim

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 4 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Upgrades Pocopoc Aggressive ability, Spin Cycle, to also cause Rend / and Muted.

Rank 1 causes Pocopoc's Spin Cycle to also inflict Rend, which deals additional damage and reduces healing received for 6 seconds.

Rank 2 causes Pocopoc's Spin Cycle to also inflict Muted, which silences enemies for 6 seconds.

Suplim

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 5 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Upgrades Pocopoc's Supportive ability, Restorative Light, to also cause Light Barrier / and Blinding Light.

Rank 1 causes Pocopoc's Restorative Light to also grants Light Barrier, which gives an absorption shield to the target.

Rank 2 causes Pocopoc's Restorative Light to also use Blinding Light, which stuns enemies near the target for 3 seconds.

Maxlim

Cost: 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones / 0 Cyphers of the First Ones

Research Time: 5 Seconds (All Ranks)

Increases Pocopoc's maximum Energy to 12 / 14 / 16.

Comments

Comment by TheGamingPaladin

thank you for this guide Neryssa! it couldnt have come at a better time, considering that we'll all be in ZM soon, just under 72 hrs at this point, give or take depending on how long maintenance is up and how quick we can log in.

it would seem that the sooner we can unlock that 50% research buff, the better off we'll be.

Comment by Derrek32

The Fugueal Protolock looks like the hardest of the Zereth Mortis puzzles on a first glance, but it is quite easy to solve once you know what to do. There are nine runes on the panel, each rune with four different characteristics:

Core shape;
Number of core shapes;
Border shape;
Number of border shapes.

You need to pair the runes on this puzzle in groups of three - Each group needs to either have a characteristic that matches between all 3 of them, or have no matches at all between their four characteristics.

This information is incorrect - the one I found does not follow the rules you laid out here.

Comment by barbasol

So at the end of Chapter 3 - Cyphers of the First Ones quest we get to choose from 3 pieces of gear with Pocopoc abilities (cloth shoulders for me). When I look up the quest on wowhead it doesn't show the armor and when I look up the armor it doesn't show the abilities (emphatic oracular mantle, broker's oracular mantle, synchronous oracular mantle.)

They have abilities that sound like they may grant Pocopoc abilities before they are even researched? Or maybe they are useless UNTIL you research them? For instance, the Emphatic one "Grants Pocopoc the ability to take over creatures without consuming energy."

Anyway, surprised there is no guidance on this choice with all the other info floating about. Any thoughts on which to pick?

Comment by Eddiero

Is there any clarification on Alt progress?
Because I started the Aealic main upgrade on my Main char and now can't start it on my Alt while it is upgrading...
I get the Message "This Cypher talent is already being researched by another Character on your Account."

So is it account wide unlocks or will Alts have it easier once the main has researched everything?

Comment by Certified

are the cypher talents account wide? if not, why do i have to wait for my main to finish the research before my alt can start researching the talent? if this is intended and the cypher isn't account wide, terrible game design.

Comment by mitos33

- I just finished "Aealic understanding" research with my main. It took like 1 day .
- My cypher got an account-wide flag.
- Logged to my alt, I had to start the investigation again but it only took 1 second to complete.

Comment by rsrangers04

Does cypher equipment include weapons, shields, off-hand, trinkets, rings and necklaces ? or just armor?

Comment by Bigglez1995

Isn't your equipped Cypher equipment supposed to automatically increase in ilvl once you reach the threshold?

Comment by Aerolite08

UPDATE - The iLvL increase only applies to newly looted items, which you find all over ZM. This has now been tested to a point of absolute certainty.

REMINDER - Cypher equipment caps at iLvL 252, and the weapons frequently dropped by the desert sinkhole bosses in ZM are iLvL 246.

Crafting can also produce unique-equipped iLvL 262 pieces with ZM optional reagents - like a glitter-fart stat cloud which is great... but hard as hell to see on sand or in a cosmic particle effect maelstrom and has a tiny hitbox.

While there's still a lot of valuable stuff to find in the new raid, this serves as an excellent stat floor for engaging with that content.

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I haven't seen my Cypher Equipment level increase despite my rank going up to 3/6.

My guess is that the research paid for with this currency has to complete before it counts toward the behind the scenes mechanics of the system - despite the immediate rank increase stated on the UI. The counters used by the display and the mechanics behind them might not be properly linked.

Or it's a bug, whatever. Should be able to confirm/deny soon enough.

Comment by meganerd18

Concordances are part of what confuses me, but I just spotted the part of the tooltip explaining the increase to understanding them. Seems odd Aelic doesn't improve it too, but whatever. Currently I don't understand why I was forced to learn those three new mini-games after Cachial Understanding, because I haven't seen them in the field. Maybe I just haven't found any Caches of Creation?

Comment by Woolbuddy

Can only research one at a time per account. Don't accidently get timegated because your alt just happened to choose a 5 day research Cypher Talent.

"This Cypher talent is already being researched by another character on your account."

Comment by datgrl

I'm sure there's a ton of great info here but it's very hard to read. Please break it up even further with tabs for each category. I came here looking to find out what I need do with this codex I got from the dispenser. If that info is here, it's buried so deep I can't find it.

Comment by fiercefiona

So I am cypher level 2 and 233 is still dropping, not 239 :( Is it broken?

Comment by Nymrohd

Would have expected a segment on Cypher gear.

Comment by sugglekitten

How do you start the first box? I have 18 Cyphers. The first core System says it needs 5. Clicking the box only makes the tooltip pop up?

Comment by elbardo

This questline eventually unlocks the second forge for the Protoform Synthesis system

what do you mean by "eventually"?

Comment by datgrl

It's not exactly true to say that this system doesn't grant player power. If it allows you to upgrade the ilevel of items you receive in the zone, then it's increasing power and it's a 'borrowed' system similar to feeing azerite or anima to some repository.

Still looking for the section in this guide that outlines which 'understandings' you need to research to improve the ilevel of drops.

Comment by Dyzdaemar

So I am down to needing 2 last discoveries to get to 6/6 and I needed to "spend" 190 to get there. I researched Maxlim lvl 2 which cost 120 but now I still need to "spend" 75... wait-a-minute. Is there like a surcharge or something?

Comment by kanegasi

I developed a macro that shows the research console from anywhere in the game WITHOUT hurting any other part of the game that uses the same garrison talent UI (Pocopoc Customization, Torghast Box of Many Things, MOTHER Vision upgrades, and BfA mission ship enhancements are the ones I'm aware of). The macro is 253 characters long, which becomes 254 later because Blizzard adds a return to saved and loaded macros.
/run OrderHall_LoadUI()local c,g,f=C_Garrison,"GetCurrentGarrTalentTreeID",OrderHallTalentFrame c.o=c.o or c c=function()return f.garrisonType==111 and f.garrTalentTreeID==474 and 474 or c.o()end f:SetGarrisonType(111,474)ToggleOrderHallTalentUI()
When clicking on the cypher console npc, the event GARRISON_TALENT_NPC_OPENED is fired with 111 and 474 as the two arguments. UIParent then feeds these into the OrderHallTalentFrame keys "garrisonType" and "garrTalentTreeID" respectively in preparation to open it, but instead of the UI checking the frame's garrTalentTreeID key, it queries C_Garrison.GetCurrentGarrTalentTreeID() because why not, causing the frame to break if you tried to show it without the NPC.

In my macro, I force the function to check garrisonType==111 and garrTalentTreeID==474 to show the cypher research, because those keys will be there before the function is queried. By placing a copy of the original C_Garrison.GetCurrentGarrTalentTreeID() function into C_Garrison.o, I can return the old function as the rest of the UI/game expects if those keys aren't 111 and 474.

As a side note, in true Blizzard spaghetti code fashion, the first time you run this macro since the last time your UI loaded, you get a chat warning that says Unknown macro option: g for some insane reason. Ignore it.

Comment by Xendren

Any guidance on the Cypher items with sockets? I've only gotten all the gloves and a helmet with only the helmet having a socket. Just wondering if any of the other gear slots have sockets. it is pretty helpful with more powerful mobs to make those 15 minute upgrades permanent.

Comment by jayne9878

I didn't see this posted anywhere yet. As of patch 9.2.5, you have the ability to obtain weapons in ZM (ilvl based on your console). To open this up, you have to unlock the Jiro guys doing quests for each of them in the NW corner (if you haven't done this already). Once they appear in the Faith's Repose camp, farm mobs for Resonating Disc which will give you the quest Sounds of Healing to turn in to Olea Manu at the camp.

Comment by lordluthar

Has anyone seen Cypher Equipment with Spheriod slots drop lately? I've gotten MULTIP)LE Cypher Equipment drops but since 9.2.3 or 9.2.4 none of them have had the Slot.

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