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Subtlety Rogue DPS Starter Guide - Shadowlands 9.2.5
By fuu1
Last Updated:
2022/11/28
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Welcome to our Subtlety Rogue starter guide, which covers everything you need to start playing a new character in Shadowlands. While our other guide pages go into more individual detail, this simple starter guide covers all the basics in one place, whether you're a new Subtlety Rogue, a returning player to Shadowlands, hardcore, or casual alike, it's the best place to get a beginners overview on the class. Included are basic talent builds, simplified rotations, stats, legendary recommendations, and more to get you started as quickly as possible.
Please keep in mind that this page is meant to get players started quickly as an introduction, and does not contain much in the way of detailed explanations, mechanics, competitive options, gearing, simulation comparisons, or nuance. For more in-depth information, including all those optimizations and more, check out the complete Subtlety Rogue Guide pages linked in the navigation on the left-hand side of the page, and if you're leveling up in Shadowlands, you can take a look at our
leveling tips
.
10.1.7 Season 2
10.1.7 Cheat Sheet
10.1.7 Primordial Stones
10.1.7 Mythic+
10.1.7 Raid Tips
10.1.7 Talent Builds
10.1.7 Rotation
10.1.7 Support Buffs
10.1.7 Gear
10.1.7 Tier Set Bonus
Overview
Abilities & Talents
Advanced Concepts
Stats
Consumables
Macros & Addons
WeakAuras
Common Terms
Mythic+
Common Questions
Leveling
Simulations
Hotfixes
PvP Overview
PvP Builds
Mage Tower
About the Author
This article is currently updated and maintained by Fuu. A Rogue Theorycrafter since Legion with the main focus on Subtlety. I am also part of the
Rogue Discord
as a moderator and you will usually find me discussing rotation, strategies, or talking about theories to improve the simulation.
If you want to chat about rogue feel free to contact me on discord under
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.
Best Subtlety Rogue Covenant
This section lists the best Covenant choices for raiding and mythic+. The listed options are choices that are noticeable ahead in damage output. For the raid its likely that you adjust your choice depending on the encounter while mythic+ has a more dominant choice.
Best Subtlety Rogue Covenants and Soulbinds for raid
Single legendary
Double legendary
Kyrian
Mikanikos
Kyrian
Mikanikos
Venthyr
Theotar
Venthyr
Theotar
Best Subtlety Rogue Covenants and Soulbinds for mythic+
Single legendary
Double legendary
Venthyr
Theotar
Venthyr
Theotar
Keep in mind that this guide focuses primarily on a DPS throughput perspective. Covenants offer a lot of utility and survivability options and if you have good reason to go for those over min-maxing damage, then please do so.
Best Subtlety Rogue Covenant
Kyrian Subtlety Rogue GuideNecrolord Subtlety Rogue Guide
Night Fae Subtlety Rogue GuideVenthyr Subtlety Rogue Guide
Best Subtlety Rogue legendaries
Here is an overview of the best legendaries to watch out for. For more details, feel free to visit the guide page.
Best single legendaries for Subtlety Rogue
Raid and mythic+ legendary(Kyrian)
:
Resounding Clarity
Raid and mythic+ legendary (Venthyr)
:
Obedience
Raid legendary (Necrolord, Night Fae )
:
Akaari's Soul Fragment
Mythic+ legendary (Necrolord, Night Fae)
:
Finality
Best Double legendaries for Subtlety Rogue
Raid legendaries
:
Akaari's Soul Fragment
+
Memory of Unity
Mythic+ legendaries
:
Finality
+
Memory of Unity
Subtlety Rogue legendaries guide
Best Subtlety Rogue talents
This Subtlety Rogue build is a good general setup that will get you started in dungeons and raids without further optimization.
For alternative builds and comments on each talent, check out the guide page for our talents.
Subtlety Rogue talents guide
Subtlety Rogue stat priority
Subtlety Rogues get agility through item level. It's often best to equip your highest item level piece in all slots, with the exception of rings, which do not contain primary stats. Find out more about how stats work, including sample stat weights and scaling plots in the Stats Guide, or get an overview of gear to look for from dungeons and raids in the Subtlety Rogue gear guide.
Versatility
Critical Strike
Haste
Mastery
Critical Strike
: Chance to deal double damage with your attacks.
Haste
: Increases attack speed, energy regeneration and
Rupture
tick rate.
Mastery
: Increases the damage of your finishers.
Versatility
: Increases all damage done and reduces damage taken.
Subtlety Rogue stats guide
Subtlety Rogue enchants
With enchants for your gear and consumables, you can further enhance your throughput. Here is a quick summary of notable enchants.
Weapons:
Enchant Weapon - Celestial Guidance
and
Enchant Weapon - Sinful Revelation
(make sure to take two different enchants)
Cloak:
Enchant Cloak - Fortified Avoidance
/
Enchant Cloak - Fortified Leech
/
Enchant Cloak - Fortified Speed
/
Enchant Cloak - Soul Vitality
Chest:
Enchant Chest - Eternal Stats
Boots:
Enchant Boots - Eternal Agility
Rings:
Enchant Ring - Tenet of Versatility
Subtlety Rogue enchants guide
Best Subtlety Rogue rotation
This is a typical Subtlety Rogue DPS rotation, using the talents recommended above. More optimized rotations and notes on on cooldown use can be found in the Subtlety Rogue rotation guide.
Make sure your poisons are up and not going to run out during the fight.
Be in
Stealth
.
Engage the boss with
Shadowstrike
.
Use
Slice and Dice
.
Use
Serrated Bone Spike
(Necrolord),
Sepsis
(Night Fae), or
Echoing Reprimand
(Kyrian).
Pop
Shadow Blades
and
Symbols of Death
.
Enter your first
Shadow Dance
window.
Use
Flagellation
(Venthyr) before your first finishing move.
Use
Flagellation
(Venthyr) before a finisher and follow up with
Symbols of Death
. You can hold symbols for up to 10s if necessary to line them up.
Use
Serrated Bone Spike
(Necrolord) on targets that do not have the DoT ticking on them and that will live for 21 or more seconds.
Other than that, you can use it outside your burst windows in order to avoid capping on 3 charges (trying to keep 2 ready for incoming new targets), or to fish for the
Lead by Example
buff if you have the Emeni soulbind.
Use
Sepsis
(Night Fae) on cooldown with space for the combo point it generates.
Use
Symbols of Death
on cooldown.
Use
Shadow Blades
on cooldown with
Symbols of Death
if your next ability will be a combo-point generator.
Use
Echoing Reprimand
(Kyrian) on cooldown but not during
Shadow Dance
. It should align pretty well to be used into the crit buff of every third
Symbols of Death
. Against 5 or more enemies, you can drop it entirely, unless you are using
Resounding Clarity
.
Use
Shadow Dance
with
Symbols of Death
every 30 seconds. With
Enveloping Shadows
, you will usually get in another use between two Symbols windows that you can use to avoid capping on charges.
Use
Vanish
on cooldown and follow up with
Shadowstrike
.
Use all finishers at 5 or more Combo Points.
Maintain
Slice and Dice
against up to 5 targets.
Refresh
Rupture
on your main target when it is about to run out.
Against up to 4 targets, you can apply
Rupture
to other targets if they are going to live for most of its duration. However, this is only worth doing outside of
Symbols of Death
/
Shadow Dance
windows and if you want to maximize on priority damage, you should not apply it on targets beside your main one anyway. Against 4 or more, you can drop Rupture entirely.
Use
Black Powder
against 3 or more targets for AoE damage (i.e. you don't want to funnel everything into one priority target).
Use
Eviscerate
.
Use
Shuriken Storm
at 3 or more targets.
Use
Shadowstrike
if available due to
Stealth
or
Shadow Dance
.
Use
Shuriken Storm
at 2 targets.
Use
Backstab
.
Subtlety Rogue rotation guide
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