Best Marksmanship Hunter Talent Tree Builds - Midnight

For the talent Steady Focus, it's seems that the GCD is affected by the 40% reduce cast time. So you don't have to wait for the GCD with 2 stacks has the GCD is reduced as the sime time.

I personally love that talent in BG with lethal shot. You spam your steady shot on 1 target and when you have a proc of lethal shot, you use it one a second target to benefit from the buff of the aimed shot. Even better with careful aim for big opener of execute.

I was able to test that build on the LVL 120 beta server with the azerite gear and there is a good sinergy with the trait that increase your next aimed shot by X dmg for each steady shot, stacking 5 times.

Keep in mind this is for PvP. I didn't test it for PvE.

Comment by Raithan

Talent Builds for ST and AOE is broken and not showing

Comment by Ardensolis1

How about talent choices for leveling?

Comment by MMOSimca

Guide is somewhat out of date regarding talent choices with tier.

Explosive Shot use in Mythic+ is trending downwards now and is about 50/50 with Careful Aim. Seems crazy since Explosive Shot is an easy 8% of our damage in Mythic+, but Careful Aim is potentially even more damage than that in AoE and substantially better in ST due to our high reliance on Aimed Shot with 4p. I would recommend players skip out on Explosive Shot, and I suspect the usage will continue to drop as the weeks go by.
Streamline is better than Steady Focus in 99% of situations now, even single target. Very few players run it anymore, even in high-end Mythic raiding. The heavily proc-based nature of the 4p MM rotation conflicts strongly with attempting to juggle this buff.
Volley is always better than Lock 'n Load once you have 2p tier (you don't need 4p for it to be better, since it was close already).

This also makes the same talent build the best for both ST and AoE, which is a nice side effect.

(I realize the guide does mention all 3 of these changes to some extent but they aren't part of the recommended builds and the guide does attempt to hedge on them a bit.)

Comment by elbardo

With the 4 tier pieces bonus and the trick shot leggo you rarely use steady shot

Comment by Nabinkemper

Please note that the Class Tree talent Improved Traps would be more of a PvP selection rather than a PvE choice as the talent would only be reducing the cooldown of Freezing Trap and Tar Trap based on the guides selections. Also, in none of the selections is Tranquilizing Shot taken. Tranquilizing Shot has the benefit of removing Berserk or other related buffs on enemy targets which is especially useful in Mythic Plus for affixes such as Raging and Bolstering.

Wowhead - The colors used to designate the potential selections and/or the border sizes make it difficult for colorblind users to differentiate one from the other (especially the green and yellow).

Comment by clayford2236

Man the Marksmanship tree is garbage right now.

Comment by Auralyon

Am I missing something or is the m+ build the exact same as the hybrid raid build?

Comment by Chetrokio

Whoever is doing M+ talents is trolling so hard... This wailing arrow is simming 25k dps lower than my own build... B4PAIlFMjeNhnEouGfV8Ij2uS5ARoFASCCCAAAAQkERSSi4ASERLkGRENpoJkcgESIoBAAAAA This is my build

Comment by GiantMachine

Hydra's Bite works a lot better for me than Poison Injection in M+. A lot more damage overall spreading serpent sting all around.

Comment by Lostelf

You say to take serpent's sting but it's not mentioned anywhere in the rotation. Am I missing something?

Comment by elbardo

What's the difference between m+/aoe build and the m+ big aoe build?

Comment by ThreeEyeWilly

Really? A different build for every single mythic+ dungeon and raid encounter? Why not a different build for every possible pull, since we're at it?

Comment by Vuldrakken

This guide is a little... lacking, on the 'guide' part.

Comment by Agdang

Why is BM the ST build

Comment by StripedYukon

So... the the talent build section for MM is just "here are the three builds to copy"? No going over anything? This isn't really a guide, I could have done this from any top MM hunter in any reputable log.

Comment by Limetail

Talent builds are broken and missing the bottom halves.

Comment by Chetrokio

Am I missing something or what? Why would you take Steady Focus in AOE situations?

Comment by Scarou

Hey !

Thank you so much, your guides are great!

I have a question. You recommend replacing "Steady Focus" with "Crack Shot", but why not "Focused Aim" instead?
According to my sims, he's on top, is there a reason I'm missing?

Thanks in advance and enjoy the game!

Comment by RoburConqueror

About Delve build: it is almost impossible for MM hunter to run delve without pet, so I replaced "Teritorial Insticts" with "Trailblazer" for speed, and "Lone Wolf" with "Heavy Ammo". If you run solo of course, for groups lone wolf sounds better.

I have also switched "Padded Armor" with "Wilderness medicine" for my pet to survive little longer.

Comment by Chetrokio

A yo what happened with Dark Ranger, I was excited that it will be better now, but for every content, the suggested is Sentinel...

Comment by hazmaxed

As of the time of this comment, none of the talent builds are complete. Each only shows about 18 to 19 points spent.

Edit: NVM, seems to be corrected.

Comment by Spiney5

Imagine making a guide about a class for thousands of players and just not including half of the spec (Dark Ranger). We get it.... sentinel is meta. Who cares about meta.

Comment by Getwasted

There are missing points in the M+ and Delve 11.0.5 builds

Comment by leonardn

With Import Codes for "Raid Single Target with Cleave" the links for Dark Range and Sentinel versions are the wrong way around.

Comment by RyudoTFO

Even if Sentinel is better "on paper" I would still advise going with Dark Ranger for M+, especially in PUGs. Due to most tanks moving like spastic epileptics with Parkinson and Sentinel's heavy reliance on mobs actually standing still in his AoE zone,

Comment by sivla

don't bother attempting to try out above builds, the talent tree as been altered yet again by blizzard...../sigh

Comment by Chetrokio

Ragebait M+ build? I have 10 different builds that can do more dmg than this

Comment by Crusaderwolf

My only concern with the guide is a lack of a build or 2 that take unbreakable bond for Delves and solo/world content. Pretty much builds for those that don't have a group and are not really skilled in kiting. In all honesty though, even just a note of a talent swap for certain content will suffice.

Comment by Trixle

Hi and thanks for the pre-patch builds. Just wanted to point our your delves build mentions not running trick shots but you have it selected in the talents

Comment by Outdated

Guide could use a build for each playstyle for the hero talents. Having only one set is very lackluster and effortless on the writers end.

Comment by Zekbert

Delve talents is the same from M+

Best Marksmanship Hunter Talent Tree Builds - Midnight

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