Why is there no love for the Draenei

Publication par FarseerLolotea

NO they cant be rouges for lore reasons tauren were rouges for a while but they were taken out in a patchWhat are you talking about?

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NO they cant be rouges for lore reasons tauren were rouges for a while but they were taken out in a patchWhat are you talking about?

tauren and draenei have never been able to be rogues, but they DO have stealth animations, more likely for players using "Orb of deception" or whatever is called that thing that transforms you into a random race from the oposite faction.

also, I've said my que before, and I'll say it again:

blizzard dropped the ball when handling the new classes.

rather than giving shamanism to dwarves they should had given it to worgens, and rather than give druids to worgen give druids to draenei.

problem fixed (I know dwarves DO have the background to be shamans, with the wildhammer and being decended from the earthen and all that, but they already got mages, giving them 2 classes while the draenei have none is kinda unfair, and as for the worgen, they gotta have 8 classes cuz they're the new race, like the goblins are, but rather than druids, shamans would had made equal sence to them, and having druids on a new race is a big waste, ssince u won't be able to see your new awesome worgen while in-combat)

by having worgen shamans, and giving draenei the druids, the problem is fixed on both sides of the coin, and the dwarves don't get boned cuz they still have mages.

BTW, did anyone just noticed that on cata taurens pretty much have ALL healing classes on the game?

Publication par Patty

on cata taurens have ALL healing classes on the game?
Fix'd.

And all tanking classes too. They have one pure DPS class (hunters) And the rest are hybrids.

Publication par FarseerLolotea

tauren and draenei have never been able to be rogues, but they DO have stealth animations, more likely for players using "Orb of deception" or whatever is called that thing that transforms you into a random race from the oposite faction.I'm aware of that. Sunnybonez still didn't know what he or she was talking about.

also, I've said my que before, and I'll say it again:

blizzard dropped the ball when handling the new classes.

rather than giving shamanism to dwarves they should had given it to worgens, and rather than give druids to worgen give druids to draenei.

problem fixed (I know dwarves DO have the background to be shamans, with the wildhammer and being decended from the earthen and all that, but they already got mages, giving them 2 classes while the draenei have none is kinda unfair, and as for the worgen, they gotta have 8 classes cuz they're the new race, like the goblins are, but rather than druids, shamans would had made equal sence to them, and having druids on a new race is a big waste, ssince u won't be able to see your new awesome worgen while in-combat)

by having worgen shamans, and giving draenei the druids, the problem is fixed on both sides of the coin, and the dwarves don't get boned cuz they still have mages.I would have argued for dwarves getting shaman, worgen getting paladin (putting the Horde shaman to Alliance paladin—and vice versa—ratio back into balance...although it would be somewhat incongruous) and draenei getting druid. Or...both new races just starting out with seven options (drop shaman from goblins) and draenei getting druid. (Of course, they'd get those options back in a later xpack.)

BTW, did anyone just noticed that on cata taurens pretty much have ALL healing classes on the game?Tauren will have all tanking and healing classes in the game after Cata. But yet, according to the official forums...if the same were true of draenei, they'd be OP. (I can't say as I get that logic.)

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Publication par FarseerLolotea

Draenei phone home*rimshot*

Publication par Adamsm

Well, there are suppose to be a few Grimtotem tribe rogues in game aren't there?

But yeah, there are no Draenei model rogues.... lots of Broken ones though.

Publication par FarseerLolotea

Well, there are suppose to be a few Grimtotem tribe rogues in game aren't there?Grimtotem Bandits disarm and kick, but don't stealth.

But yeah, there are no Draenei model rogues.... lots of Broken ones though.Auchenai Monks also kick—and sprint—but appear to have warrior abilities otherwise. (And they summon possessors, the bastards...)

Publication par Adamsm

But yeah, there are no Draenei model rogues.... lots of Broken ones though.Auchenai Monks also kick—and sprint—but appear to have warrior abilities otherwise. (And they summon possessors, the bastards...)

Possessors sucked so badly lol.... but they made Crypt run throughs fun though. Nothing like the 80 getting possessed and pwn'ing the lowbies. As for the monks, yeah, I've noticed that too, but no actual stealth Draenei's heh.

Publication par Rankkor

Tauren will have all tanking and healing classes in the game after Cata. But yet, according to the official forums...if the same were true of draenei, they'd be OP. (I can't say as I get that logic.)

now that I think of it, giving druids to draenei, would esentially make them = to tauren.

both have hooves, tails, horns, can't have rogues or warlocks due to their "Holy" status, and both would have all the tank and healing classes on the game.

it would make 2 races that esentially would be near-identical to one another.

this could be the reason why they didn't gave gnomes more classes, to keep'em diferent from goblins.

rough equivalents of both races per faction would be:

Tauren/Draenei
Gnome/Goblin
Blood-elf/Night-elf
Orc/Dwarf
Forsaken/Worgen
Trolls=?
Humans?

lol XD

Publication par FarseerLolotea

now that I think of it, giving druids to draenei, would esentially make them = to tauren.

both have hooves, tails, horns, can't have rogues or warlocks due to their "Holy" status, and both would have all the tank and healing classes on the game.

it would make 2 races that esentially would be near-identical to one another.Somehow, I doubt they're worried about that, per se. Blood elves and humans will already have the exact same options. And draenei and trolls currently have only one difference.

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Publication par FarseerLolotea

See...if they just give Draenei Druids, and Tauren Priests, then the two would be equal, and clearly be the best races in the game by far.Tauren are getting priest already.

Why else would they give them ALL the tank and healing classes? Because they're leet. They go beyond leet. They're uber leet.No argument there.

Publication par FarseerLolotea

How did I know you'd be right back to your old tricks eventually?

they can't, if draenei get druids, they need to give another horde race druids too. Blizzard wants to keep the equal druid race balance, and, although lolotea has said giving draenei druids too but no extra horde race druids would make the tauren want to get another druid race into the horde, that wouldn't work.Yes, it would. Why do druids have to be perfectly balanced? And it would only have to be imbalanced until the Horde gets something else...like pandaren, since everyone seems to like them, maybe.

they're not going to recruit a new race just for one class. Just because draenei don't get a new class only while all the other races do does not mean they are getting shafted.That's the definition of shafted, especially seeing as they have no stealth class and are the only race getting left out. I might buy that if blood elves weren't getting warrior.

Blizzard came out and said they would have given one of the 3 remaining classes to draenei, druid rogue and warlock, but they said none of the classes out of the 3 made sense for draenei.Until someone reminded them that there are already Lost One druids in-game. At which point, they switched their tack to "not where we want to take the story right now."

why don't you guys understand that? Worgen druids actually make alot of sense because the curse, and worgen as a species, are druidic in nature.There are no druidic worgen currently in-game. At all. Why don't you understand that?

Blizzard didn't retcon this, it was always a mystery of the true origins of the worgen, they could easily have been an ancient druidic race that became corrupted and were turned into a shadowy evil race.Worgen were established to be extradimensional, hailing from a world under siege by (presumably) the Legion. Their contact with the night elves was minimal. Turning them into "ancient allies of the night elves" is a retcon. While making them druidic is not necessarily a retcon, it is an @$$pull.

there is no reason for this thread. it is going nowhere, there have been too many of these threads since cata was announced, about draenei not getting a new class. and guess what? they accomplish nothing at all.

You're asking to take away druids from worgen and give it to draenei. Why? Why should draenei get a class they don't deserve and that doesn't make sense for them? Worgen druids make perfect sense because they are DRUIDIC IN NATURE, draenei are not.Again: worgen were not druidic until Blizzard decided to retcon them.

Draenei, as blizzard said themselves, do not make sense as druids/rogues/warlocks.Hello? Someone reminded them that there was already precedent in-game, and they changed their tack.

You all need to realize this. You think blizzard listens to fan demand? they don't, they pre-plan all this crap, they've already most likely got the expansion after cataclysm planned right now, they're not listening to you people.If you don't think Blizzard listens to fan demand, you haven't been paying attention.

They. Do. Not. Want. Draenei. To. Get. Any. More. New. Classes.You're forgetting the words "right now." Which blues were using.

DEAL WITH IT.That's the thing: We are, in the way that such a slight to the fan base should be dealt with. If that's not how you would prefer...well, no one's making you read, much less post, are they?

If you want to roll a druid, roll a troll, or a tauren, or a night elf, or a worgen. Don't want to roll any of those? Too bad, if you don't then forget about playing a druid.If I've said that I'm rolling a goddamn troll once, I've said it five times. Alliance is the problem.

And naga are not going to be playable, they're lower body design makes it impossible./facepalm

Metzen even stated at one point that he eventually wants to add them.

Goddam, i'm so tired of all these draenei QQ threads that are always led by lolotea, i don't have a problem with you lolotea, but you seriously need to end this pointless crusade. None of these threads would go anywhere without you, and you aren't even making the threads!First of all: It's obvious that you do, in fact, have a problem with me. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so quick to fling insults.

Secondly: No, I'm not making the threads. Nor am I "leading" them. And actually, some of them have done just fine without me. (For example, I'm not on the European WoW forums.)

Thirdly: We've been over how calling it "QQ" is itself petulant.

And no, I don't "need" to stop. You want me to, because it bothers you that someone dares voice a contrary opinion. But that's your problem, not mine.

Just stop please, seriously stop, they are not taking druids away from worgen, worgen druids make perfect sense, draenei druids are not happening, and do not make any sense.

Blizzard THEMSELVES HAVE SAID THIS. JUST. LET. IT. GO.Did you jump into gnome healer threads way back when to say the same kind of things? I'll bet you did.

Blizzard was no more final about not giving draenei a new class in some later xpack—as in, after Cata—than they were about giving gnomes a healer before Cata was announced. (In fact, I believe they said "gnomes are creatures of destruction and those medics in Gnomer are using technological devices.")

Please, can we just lock this thread? If a moderater goes and see's all the other draenei "shafted in cata" threads they should know that it is wise to lock this one too. It'll go on forever with endless QQ and repeated arguements if you don't lock it.Why lock the thread...when they can do away with all of that just as easily by banning you again?

Oh well, I made my statement, no offense to anyone here, just stop this, please. I'm being nice.You know that if you say "no offense" after flaming someone, it doesn't change the fact that you flamed, right?

And yes i do have a right to gripe about the draenei retcon and not mind the worgen lore.If you're that eager to be inconsistent, I certainly won't stop you. Then again, inconsistency seems to be par for the course with you.

there is no retcon in the worgen lore.Yes, there is.

And the gate is guarded.

Publication par Adamsm

Please, can we just lock this thread? If a moderater goes and see's all the other draenei "shafted in cata" threads they should know that it is wise to lock this one too. It'll go on forever with endless QQ and repeated arguements if you don't lock it.Alright, the only one causing problems in this thread is you. If you don't like what were discussing, stay out of it, problem solved.

Publication par FarseerLolotea

Pretty sure blizzard will explain how the curse got into gilneas. it's not the arugal curse, it's the ancient true curse.All the implications we've seen so far point towards it being the Arugal curse.

And what "ancient true curse?" If an "ancient true curse" exists, that's another retcon. Worgen (apart from the cursed ones in Silverpine) are extradimensional.

and how funny you just instantly call me a flamer, just because i disagree with you. you're the one who said, and i quote, "those who like the new worgen lore have no right to ever gripe about the draenei lore again" and "those who hate the male draenei model have no right to like the male worgen model".Now, I have made the former statement. I stand by it. To gripe about the draenei retcon, then turn around and fanboy over the new worgen lore, is inconsistent.

However, I have never said the latter. Let me refresh your memory: You were the one who told me that I "had no right" to dislike the playable worgen model if I was just fine with how male draenei look.

ok first off, don't tell us what we can do or think. K? Why not? You do it all the time.

Second, aesthetics, draenei and worgen are entirely different in appearance, so if i like the worgen model, i have the right to hate the draenei model. that is my opinion, and you equally have the right to not like the worgen model and like the draenei model.

Opinions and aesthetics people.You've got a lot of damn gall: It just makes no sense how you can like the male draenei model, but hate the male worgen one.But you have no right hating on the male worgen model when you like the male dreanei model

Where the hell do you get off turning it completely around backwards like that?

adamsm you are one of the few people who are actually trying seriously to get actual draenei lore, not "classes fer draenei".
and for that, i salute you.Just because I think the lack of a new class is bogus doesn't change the fact that I've been doing the same damn thing.

lolotea doesn't care about lore, she does not care about draenei lore even, if she did, she would not want draenei druids or rogues.Oh, be quiet. You have no idea what I do or don't care about. (And actually...if I didn't care about lore, I'd be agitating for warlock.)

Do you want to know the truth that i realized long ago adamsm? the truth behind her rants for draenei lore/classes?

She really, in all honesty, this is what i believe, she just wants to have a draenei druid with what she believes will have "cool animal forms". That is it, that is all her rants have ever been about, she just wants a draenei druid with cool animal forms.

That is seriously it.No...that would just ice the cake.

You however, are intelligent, and realize the 3 other classes do not work for draenei, and actually want new lore.You fail stealth insults forever.

Publication par Adamsm

(P.S. you change your avatar alot :P).Premium for the win, but I think I'll be keeping this one for a while, all time favorite villain.

Why is there no love for the Draenei

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