[Bug?] Comments/answers structure

Publication par Sakkura

On this comments page, my comment (and a few others) which were originally answers to another comment are now appearing as separate comments above the comment they were replies to. The ordering of comments in general also seems odd (based on rating perhaps? that will disrupt the flow of the "conversation" in the comments sections).

Publication par Kristopher

Skosiris is working on it :)

Publication par Skosiris

Publication par Kristopher

Perhaps there would be a way to set the default by user? As in an option to set "Sort by date" or "Sort by rating" as your default.

Publication par Skosiris

That is what is coming soonly :)

Publication par Kristopher

:o Thanks!

Publication par Sakkura

We're actually experimenting with sorting comments by rating by default, effectively moving the most useful/funny/insightful/etc comments at the top.

I'm aware this can break "conversations", but I think seeing the useful info first is more important than seeing the conversations properly. Not that you can't change the sort mode if you want to see them.
Alright. I can live with it in general, but the larger problem here is that replies aren't attached to the comment they are replies to. Is that an intentional change? It's a lot more far-reaching than just sorting unattached or parent comments by rating, which I can live with (those "conversations" often end up broken by purges anyway, whereas a downrated parent comment would previously remain in minimized form as long as replies to it were positively rated).

Publication par Skosiris

They're sorted globally based on their rating, regardless of whether they're a reply or a standalone comment.

Basing the sort solely on standalone comments and attaching their replies behind each of them would defeat the purpose of sorting by rating... since comments would no longer be sorted by rating.

Publication par Sakkura

It also defeats the purpose of replying to another comment, since those comments will almost always be completely separated. And sometimes, replies are just necessary to correct or expand on information given in previous comments.

Publication par Skosiris

I'm aware this can break "conversations", but I think seeing the useful info first is more important than seeing the conversations properly.

...at least, that's what this experiment is all about ;)

Publication par Sakkura

Alright. I appreciate the dialogue, though I still think there are some problems with the implementation you're testing right now. I'll give another example - for this page, the top rated comment simply states "it doesn't"... ¯\(°_o)/¯

Publication par Farmbuyer

You might want to call the previous setting "threaded" or something similar, then, because "by date" doesn't imply that the threads of conversation will be maintained, and that's the major reason to use "by date".

The current default is just... I dunno. Messy. Sloppy. The comments are extremely disjointed and difficult to read now. Skimming for green text was easy to do before, so I'm (personally) not seeing a benefit to the new default, but there's definitely a cost.

Lemme put it like this: the default setting should make the most sense to random new site visitors. With "by rating" you can only see the highest rating comments; the threads of conversation are complete gibberish. There's no way to tell the context of any comment at all. Like Sakkura said, some of the highest ratings are given to replies which are now meaningless. With "by date" a new user can still see the highest rated comments easily (cuz they're in green) and the threads of conversation are self-evident.

Publication par Thander

Maybe add an option Sort by Conversation - Highest Rated. It would add together the ratings for every reply and sort the Conversations based on this conversation rating (instead of post rating). This way you can see all the green posts but they are still organized in conversations.

Publication par 241152

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Publication par 83344

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Publication par Kristopher

It appears to go "By Date" by default now. Thanks to whomever fixed it!

Publication par Skosiris

No problem. Thanks for complaining loudly.

Publication par chase123

It defaults to "By Date" on the Live site but not the PTR site.

[Bug?] Comments/answers structure

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