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Two odd questions about Destro
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Post by
Eudemonia
I've recently discovered the joys of deep destruction specced warlock-ery, and have run into 2 issues, which I'm not sure what to make of.
1: Rain of Fire and Backdraft
When in instances, rather then tab SoC, I figured I would just drop an Immolate and a conflag on the tank target, then use the
Backdraft
proc on Rain of Fire. I noticed, however, that the channel time doesn't seem to be affected (at least not on the tooltip); is this just a tooltip error, or is there some reason RoF would not be affected by Backdraft? It's a destruction spell, and that seems to be the only qualifier Backdraft has... I'm only level 73, so I'm using rank
6 RoF
, could it be an issue with that rank in particular? (I checked, no comments on Rank 6.)
By the way, I admit in advance I have no idea if RoF, even if this worked, would be better then tab-targeting SoC.
2: Lag between Immolate going up and Conflag
I'm using a cast timer that includes a lag estimator (IceHUB), and so I'l used to trying to chain my spells toghether as quickly as possible, and have noticed that after casting Immolate, I have a period after the cast is completed, but Conflagrate isn't able to be cast. Sometime I'd say almost a second elapses, sometimes less. I'm guessing that this may be server to client lag at work, but has anyone else noticed this, is there a way to work around it, or is this simply something that you have to put up with as destro?
Thanks in advance.
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Post by
asakawa
the
cast time and global cooldown
of your next three Destruction spells is reduced
while you can look at channel time as very similar to cast time the two things are not the same. it would be OP to channel 3 RoFs 30% faster.
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Eudemonia
Thanks much for the answers guys.
1: It's funny, but I never noticed how few talents modify the damage of RoF compared to SoC. Still, as full fire specced destro, RoF is probably the AoE of choice (and it's less effort then tab targeting :P) .
2: A hidden flight time actually explains everything. Nice to know it's not a UI problem on my part. I suppose, especially when at max range, it provides a bit more time for moving around, or dropping shadow spells.
the
cast time and global cooldown
of your next three Destruction spells is reduced
while you can look at channel time as very similar to cast time the two things are not the same. it would be OP to channel 3 RoFs 30% faster.
While I won't speculate as to being "OP" or not, that's a very interesting point; compare the wording of
Backdraft
to
Eradication
. "Cast time" vs. "spell casting speed"... provocative; I presume this means that the eradicate effect
would
affect RoF and other channeled spells? Also.
Intensity
specifically mentions "casting" or "channeling": these forums are indeed a wealth of knowledge!
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Post by
Modibybob
1. Since RoF is channeled, it's not considered a cast time it seems.
2. Use this lag pause to your advantage by throwing in a curse or starting your chaos bolt after immolate.
Fill up every second of possible downtime you have to do something.
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asakawa
@eudomonia, you mention backdraft and eradication and this is an important and interesting (to me at least) point. eradication effectively gives haste. while it doesn't appear on your character sheet when eradication procs the mechanics of the buff you get is the same as if you just procced a haste trinket.
backdraft does not function in the same way. it is a direct reduction to the casting time rather than an increase in casting speed.
as an example we can take a hypothetical 10 second cast time spell.
30% haste would make that a 7.7second cast.
backdraft's 30% reduction makes it a 7 second cast.
as for RoF, if it were effected by backdraft we would get 5.6 second RoFs (before haste) meaning 24 AoE ticks in 16.8 seconds. that's why i say OP ^_^
Post by
Philll
Some theorycrafting on Elitist Jerks tells me that it's actually best DPS to wait. Because then chaos bolt and incinerate benefit from Backdraft. I personally always immo-chaos-conflag because I prefer not waiting and relying on my reflexes.
Humm funny how this is what i was saying couple weeks ago and got flamed for it.
Would you be kind enuff to post where this discussion took place on EJ.
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