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Rolling a 2nd toon after 2 years: strange feelings
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Post by
LoqueNahak
So I decided to roll a new toon from scratch and get some benefit from Heirloom items (plus the buffed quest/mobs experience while leveling of course). I started a
Druid
, because I've always been caught by it's versatility and -I think- fun. The Fligh Form is something I've been always loving... something that beats any "cool" mount anyway (apart from
Ashes of Al'ar
maybe).
That said, here I am in the starting zones of Night Elves. Leveling is quite smooth (and boring as hell). Nothing really interesting to do, at least until level 20 (Cat Form) and beyond. So far... so good. Boring... boring... and desert. Almost no one to interact with but I knew that, we're exploring (again) a dead continent.
Back on topic: after so much time on my hunter I feel like this new toon will be a "sad/poor" version of my main. I will never spend months doing ALL the low-level quests, grinding reps, doing old instances, .... I mean I already know them and even with buffed things I perfectly know it would take a ton of time to ding 80. Then... when dinging 80... restart from scratch: daily quests, gazzilions of factions to grind, gazzilions of gear pieces to collect (healing? tanking? dps'ing? ... gold, rep... rep... rep... drops... argh!).
How do you feel when you start a new toon and already have a well-geared-mature main? Take the Tournament stuff for example: if you're already Crusader on your main, would you be able to start again *all* the rep/quests chain to get a Crusader title on your 2nd toon?
Isn't it very dispersive to get "good" gear on hybrid classes such as Druids... where you can have multiple talent builds (and a dual-spec will only partially help on that), multiple gear-sets and so on? I mean... doesn't it take a *LOT* of time?
I'm level 12 on the Druid and thinking about all the things I already did on my main... kills all my desire to go on. I know it's absurd: how can I enjoy doing the same Tournament dailies over and over and over.... and get bored playing a new-never-explored class? I do not know but that's my feeling.
How do you approach the leveling process of a new class (excluding the Recruit a friend possibly)?
Post by
Umega
I've got some alts to lvl 70/80. After I got them to max level, I just did a few instances, BGs, daily quests, etc, and I quickly gave up on them as I knew I would have to spend the same amount of time playing with it to get as good as my main.
My main atm is a human paladin, playing him for over 1 and 1/2 years now and I don't mind doing anything repetitive like farming for rep or items, but I dread the thought of having to do it on my new alts. =/
Right now I'm really enjoying playing my lvl 80 hunter alt, but I'm already getting tiny thoughts in my head about giving up that alt.
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Post by
Slimda
I have leveled up a fair share of characters.
I don't go thinking "yay, now I get to do the same old instances with a new class!", but I think more in the lines of "yay, new gameplay-options".
Feral-druids are -very- different from your regular hunter in terms of gameplay, and the difference alone should make you go "woah, awesome".
At this moment, My main is a feraldruid with naxx25/uld10 quality gear, while my priest-alt has naxx10/25 gear, and my DK who's 80 has heroic/naxx10 gear. My main, Arinetha, is my achievement-junkie. She strives to get any title, achievement, mount, pet or piece of gear that can maximize ones stat, be it achievement-points or DPS-points.
My priest, isn't like that. My priest is more of a "useful to have". Hey, it's nice to have a decently geared healer waiting.
And my DK? Whenever I get tired of rage, energy or mana, runic power and runes are there to interest me again.
So, how do I do it? I focus on enjoying the classes, not the content.
Post by
LoqueNahak
So, how do I do it? I focus on enjoying the classes, not the content.
This is a nice tip, on the lines of "
bring the player, not the class
" from Ghostcrawler. I agree on that, focusing on class mechanics more than quests/items alone... should help having more fun. I should give it a try and see if I can enjoy the "druid" instead of the mere leveling process. Of course (if) when I ding 80... I fear I'll be too lazy to start grinding reputations, heroics... and so on.
Post by
Slimda
Depends on who you do it with. I got a guild with amusing people I usually do raids with. Elsewhere I just mindlessly push buttons in the right order to get things done. Usually by the time I'm 80, I know a class's ups and downs, how to play it and what to do.
Post by
Celdhyrean
I've got 2 lvl 80 characters (druid main + warlock which was started 3-4 years ago) and a lvl47 warrior (+several other low level characters).
The first reroll was quite easy to start, i simply wanted to discover other things. Also that was during Vanilla where respecs and offspecs weren't that terrible to begin with, ie all classes were more shut-in in their current role. Dot and strong dps made for some fun times on the warlock, however he reached 60 just before BC, ie i didn't do any lvl 60 content with it (well, maybe an UBRS run).
During BC, i levelled it after having levelled my main for gold, tailoring, and because it was only 10 levels to do (ie relatively painless). I didn't farm reputations with it (with the exception of Quel Danas for gold, access to items and gems, and title), did some instances i didn't want to do with my main anymore, some Karazhan reroll raids and the like. I also used her to tank Leotheras in SSC.
That reroll was basically not something i concentrated upon but a way to participate to more raids, do something different, and farm a bit more.
Same with Northrend, i mainly levelled it because it was my herborist toon, am slowly gearing her up in some heroic instances or alt Nax runs just for the sake of it, ie without a heavy focus on getting geared or whatever. I also do the tournament quests with her to help me get the 5 pets fasters (since they are BoE)
My second reroll is a warrior, with full BoA gear. I'm only playing it a few hours per month, progressing slowly, and enjoying the gameplay. I think he'll level up faster once i reach BC, as i'll have more skills and the quests being more streamlined, but i certainly won't do any heavy farming with it.
Basically to me rerolls are opportunities to do some things i can't do with my main (even if druid is probably the most versatile class) and to renew somewhat the pleasure of playing. if i'm tagged for an instance with my main, i can just jump in it with my reroll and have fun with friends.
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Post by
nihmue
As for the lower level questing: try and go to the zones you haven't been much with your main. It also helps to start a character on Horde side instead of Alliance, where you might have seen most of the starter content already. And do things you hardly ever did on your main. For example, you might have never done much BG's. Do them on this new toon.
I've recently done this as well, and so far the leveling has in no way been boring.
I hear you on the higher level content though. I don't see myself spending huge amounts of time grinding for all the things I already have my main.
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Post by
anywherenotes
I enjoy having different play-styles.
Do I grind all the rep on alts? of course not. I don't even grind all the rep on main, only the ones needed for gear/enchants, etc.
And as someone suggested, leveling a toon on another side of the faction wall, does feel different. All my toons up until now have been on alliance. My horde is up to 74 horde, and things I found most confusing are 'where's the horde FP?'. And I do occasionally run into an alliance area, and wounder why npcs kill me within 2 seconds.
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Post by
xcrunr1647
I'll keep it simple...my hunter is my highest toon...but my DK and druid are both relatively high. I love my hunter, don't get me wrong, but sometimes I want a different style of play than "sit back pew pew pew". My DK and Druid both provide a way to play as in-your-face physical dps that can drop mobs with incredible speed. Not to mention that have top-of-the-line armor kits and leg patches (my hunter is 407 LW'ing) provide a nice boost to my survivability and dps.
I plan to get dual spec on my druid so I can roll a healer, and maybe spec back to being a hard-core tank as mainspec for endgame. I will probably eventually dual-spec frost on my DK if I don't go feral tank on the druid, so that I can have an endgame tank. If I do spec the druid to tank endgame, I'll dual-spec unholy on the DK...because blood abd unholy are very different playstyles, and both provide great dps. Not to mention, my dk can already melt face in low-level dungeons when I go to run a guildie, unholy would make it just that much faster.
But yeah, my 2c.
Post by
LoqueNahak
I'm not writing but I am avidly reading your feedback, suggestions and ideas (and I love them). My druid is now at level 14. It's damned slow, I really have to force myself to grind until 20 (cat form!). As a side note, the +10% xp Heirloom chest and more useful stuff will come with patch 3.2... :)
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Level 15... I'm really forcing myself to enjoy the road to 20+ but I must admit i remember few things SOOOOOO boring like leveling again.... argghhhhhhhhhhh....
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Post by
faeofwind
Tip 1 - Use your main to gear out your alt :) It makes it much more fun when you can steamroll mobs at lightning speed. Killing slowly is the bane of alts - don't let it be yours. Cheap enchants and AH gear can make a world of difference.
Tip 2 -
Quest in different areas (like others have said).
Doing the same quests gets boring fast. Check out quest rewards that benefit your toon, and go to the areas and do those.
Tip 3 - Leveling is astoundingly (word?) boring until around lvl 40 for almost every class. Just grit your teeth and push you way through it. Once you hit lvl 40, you will usually get really cool abilities that make things much much more fun.
Tip 4 - Do instances if you see people asking in chat. Instances are a nice break from the monotony of questing. At the lower levels, you don't need any kind of real coordination to make it through. So bad PuGs will still clear them pretty fast.
Can't think of anything else off the top of my head. Either way, for me, learning a new class and new abilities really made leveling fun. Don't think about any of the lvl 80 grinding stuff. When you freshly hit lvl 80 on your alt, you may be very very psyched to start gearing up. At least, I was :)
i have 3 lvl 80's (druid, mage and dk) i tank, heal and dps.
Tip 5 - try a different role!
my main is my druid, and i levelled resto from lvl 30 on. when i rolled my DK, i was amazed by strict melee dps and oh, how i <3'd plate! and of course, as most DK's, i got thrown into tanking on several occasions. i love all three roles (although personally i find tanking too easy and it bores me to tears)
Tip 6 - take a fun profession! i love levelling professions.
anyway, trust me, when you hit 80, i don't think you'll be annoyed with the rep/gear grinds. i loved it every time. it'll seem a lot quicker and easier on your alt than it was on your main. experience does that. (although i will admit that Sons of Hodir make me want to curl up in a ball and disappear, i have 2 exalted and 1 revered T_T)
and i always find lvl 50-58 as the most excruciating (excluding DK's of course). take all the instances you can!
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