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Hackroche
Hi, i have an 80 warrior tank. I wanted to make the swtich to a healing class. I have already gotten a paladin to level 27, but im starting to realize through my adventures in ulduar that they do not perform as well as other healers, and my guild rarely wants to take holy pallies along in ten mans. I also do not see them often in high end raiding videos.
So my question is this, what class do you think is the best class for general heals in a raid? Is it druid for their HoTs, a shaman for Chain Heal, paladins for their great single target healing or priests for their prowess at everything?
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Hackroche
Thank you gorefiend. Im going to continue on pally because i feel like i will love having the ability to spam big heals
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Post by
pezz
Paladin raid healing is amazing. I have a paladin and I always top the healing charts as long as there's enough raid damage for me to do it. The two problems are A) lots of sniped heals, unless you start casting before someone takes damage there's a good chance another heal will beat you to a heal and B) paladins can't keep up their really big raid heals anywhere near as long as druids and priests can keep up their pretty solid raid heals. When you get right down to it, nothing outheals a holy paladin with lots of crit, haste, spellpower, and a beaconed tank spamming Holy Light as fast as s/he can cast it, but you just can't keep a holy light spam up for very long.
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Hackroche
i enjoy healing constantly during a fight, and i know druids dont do this because of their hots and i know priests usually have to work around the 5 second rule, so i dont really want these two classes. the only other class i can see is a shaman, but i dont enjoy leveling them as much as i like a paladin. and my paladins 30 now so i may as well keep going.
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pezz
Paladin raid healing is amazing. I have a paladin and I always top the healing charts as long as there's enough raid damage for me to do it.
Check your overhealing, then you might not be so amazed.
Oh yeah it's always higher than anyone else's, and I take pride in that.
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Post by
amphitrite
Pallys are getting fixed next patch.
I play end game end game, and tbh all healers are equal.
Most see wow raiding as this generic 3 role deal. You tank, you dps, or you heal. but that's not really it.
If everyone of your dps spec to do the most dps they can and not worry about the raid as a whole, you, as a guild, will have way lower dps then you should. Healing and tanking is the same way.
All the heals have talents and spells that make them different. Disc priests will have a hard time topping meters over holy priests and druids. But you don't think about the amazing mitigation they give. All the heals give what they are supposed to. Healers aren't just about basic heal output. Pallys are amazing to have around, no matter where they are on the meter. What they give to the raid far outdoes the fact that they don't have strong aoe heals like druids and priests.
Post by
airtonix
and I always top the healing charts as long as there's enough raid damage for me to do it.
Sign of a bad healer is that they think a healing meter shows how good they are.
A rank on a healing meters means nothing and I would hope that you're not like some healers i've had the misfortune to be with where they play limbo in order to pad meters.
In fact when i'm in your raid and doing my job as a disco priest, your overhealing will shoot up through the roof and your hps will plummet.
I have created my own raidframes to show which healer is trying to heal who, and its amusing to see all six healers try to beat each other by jumping on the player with the lowest health.
What you really should be looking at is how will you work together with other healers?
Do you as a tank healer, when faced with the scenario of a tank at full health try to beat the raid healer to healing people who are not really in any danger of dying?
Do you as a raid healer, try to heal the tank when there are clearly non tanks that need healing?
What is your reaction time to your assignments loosing health?
do you remove debuffs fast? could you do it faster?
are you using the right healing spells according to the application?
are you working with other healers to maximise mana efficiency and raid hps?
or are you just trying to win meters and stroke an epeen?
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Post by
TheMediator
Someone is QQ'ing that their heals are being sniped and blaming it on other people.
Guess what? If I'm tank healing, and someone is low HP long enough for me to switch to them and drop them a riptide, then its your own fault for not healing them first. You don't beat boss fights, except vezax, by complaining about overhealing, you beat them by healing the damage taken.
Post by
Brique
I have a theory on why you don't see Paladins in high end progression videos: No
Rebirth
, no
Bloodlust
, and no
Guardian Spirit
.
Paladins are strong healers. I've played one almost exclusively for five months now with a very casual progression guild, currently collecting pieces of t8.5. I always have a spot. :]
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