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Please rate this Prot Pally PVE spec for raiding.
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Post by
mrvirtue
Im working on tweaking my spec. (my current spec looks very little like the one im posting up) Please tell me what you like or dont like about this spec tree. Also please let me know if any suggestions on how to improve this spec.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVxzrZEhtIg0dMMot
I have a level 70 pally and I want to improve my spec tree. Currently my pally is raiding in Kara and I'm ot although I have mt'd Attuman.
Post by
blademeld
for OT/OH purposes 7/10
for MT purposes 6/10
here's my proposal
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVxhMxZEhpIx0zMMot
I'll explain after my 3 hour exam
Post by
blademeld
10 extra yards of aura don't do anything for you when you're either tanking or healing. In a ten man like kara, you're always going to be in the tank/healer group
spell damage and stuns are not too important as a off-tank/healer
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Post by
blademeld
You BOTH skipped reckoning... its the paladins WF! Why would you skip free DPS + TPS. This is basicly the bread and butter of tankadins. I mean you basicly cutt your TPS in half without it.
err... OT doesn't take as much hits... and reckoning is pretty bad for raiding paladins... read the situation before you say that...
And you both skipped One-Hand specialzation. The thing you need to realise about the 1h specialization is it's not +5% to white dmg. If you read it +5% to ALL dmg. This means all your return dmg, your AoEs, everything. This will increase your TPS a lot. You BOTH took imp devo aura. Honestly at 70, this means so little. This is what... 1-2% midigation? That you put 5 points into? There are far better places to spend your points.
OT doesn't need 5% extra threat most of the time and they most likely will be using dev. aura at most of the times
I think you'll find that this spec works alot better solo and in dungoens. Grab a 1h weapon with speed <=2.0 and have at it.
read the OP before you suggest anything
Reason I don't take devine int. Is when your doing runs, almost all of your mana is going to come from getting healed. So having a "larger buffer" doesn't mean a whole lot. Not as much as, having the cost to cast your threat spells cost less and getting + to parry to help midigate dmg (and if your parry and atk thats far more midigation then some more armor imp devo will give.)
BUT, that's IMO. You may find something else works better for you.
not a 5 man, a raid OT...
Post by
Chickensoup
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVhxIx0dMgqtV0x0h
some people take improved seal of the crusader but I think PoJ is better. Reckoning is really only all that spectacular as a soloing talent. you put out enough threat that what little it adds in single target fights wont be missed and in AoE fights its hard to not have all the mobs attention
Post by
zoomie
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVGtIx0zgMqtVbx
One of the best builds you could have.
To the noob who was always spamming "Read the situation before you post" I think you are the one who needs to read the situation before you post. This is a tank spec, not a healing spec. I don't see why you recommended healing talents. This IS a tank spec right? If a tank or offtank has to heal then something has gone SERIOSLY wrong.
You do not need imp. devotion aura. If you are tanking you should be using retribution aura. Extra holy damage means more threat.
Why didn't you max out toughness? Bigger armor boost than the stupid devotion aura talent.
In fact why don't you pull all talents out of holy. There is no need for ANY of these. Yeah a little extra int seems good and a little extra damage from SoR looks good but its not as good as it seems. Move the points from divine int to benediction. Most of your mana is used from seals and judgements. 15% less mana from them is better than 10% more mana because you SHOULD be receiving heals and getting mana back from them.
Get deflection. 5% parry chance is a must have for mitigation. And get improved judgements. judging seal of righteousness is a big threat builder. and it should be used to start building initial threat. 20% faster judgements is very useful here in tanking.
Get ardent defender. If your healers get silenced, stunned, feared, etc etc, this slows damage down a little bit and causes you to die in 2 or 3 more hits and gives the healers a little more time to keep you up. People say that if you get that low and need this talent something has gone wrong. These people have never played a healer and they don't know that healers dont stand there looking pretty spamming heals. They have crap to deal with too.
Why do you not use reckoning? It is an amazing threat building tool. So what if you are tanking only one mob. A lot of mobs enrage and attack faster meaning more hits meaning more chances to proc reckoning. Even against a target that is not enraged my reckoning stays proced a LOT even when im single target tanking. Keep in mind that paladins use their skills by taking hits. If you say reckoning isn't effective then take redoubt away too because it too depends on getting hit. So does retribution aura and blessing of sanctuary. Hmm starting to make sense now? Probably not, your the guy who suggested using holy talents and healing talents for a tank. I feel sorry for anyone in your group.
Post by
blademeld
To the noob who was always spamming "Read the situation before you post" I think you are the one who needs to read the situation before you post. This is a tank spec, not a healing spec. I don't see why you recommended healing talents. This IS a tank spec right? If a tank or offtank has to heal then something has gone SERIOSLY wrong.
Offtank healing is quite common actually...
get your facts straight before you accuse someon of being a noob
You are the noob for wasting OT points in reckoning and guardian's favor..
seriously read the OP's request
and btw, imp. judgement increasing TPS is a myth, factor in GCD with resealing, HS, consecration and swing timers and you'd know it's not worth 2 points
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Post by
Blightman
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVhxIx0dMgqtV0x0h
some people take improved seal of the crusader but I think PoJ is better. Reckoning is really only all that spectacular as a soloing talent. you put out enough threat that what little it adds in single target fights wont be missed and in AoE fights its hard to not have all the mobs attention
I second this build for MT. For OT, it needs some points in Holy Tree
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