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Adamsm
Orcs, and draenei can breed, as proven by the half orc Garona. Garona had her son Me'dan with Medivh, a human. As stated above, this would mean that orcs, draenei, and humans are all the same species. Not really, donkeys and horses breed and creates mules, lions and tiger's breed and create liger's/tigon's, but those are the same genus not species.
I think it's just a convient thing to have humans able to breed with orcs, and don't forget, the Garona thing pure and simple was an experiment and rape, they did it to see if they could do it, then they turned her into the ultimate killing machine.
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ArgentSun
To elaborate, because my Biology teacher was such a good man.
In order for two organisms/individuals to be considered of the same species, they need to be able to produce offspring that is also able to produce offspring. Which was stated by bloodpaly, I am just putting the definition straight on.
The case with humans and orcs... well, it defies biology. Garona was able to give birth to a child. I am willing to disregard that in the name of the game. After all many fantasy worlds allow humans and elves to interbreed, and then the half-elves - to give birth to a quarter-elf. It's fantasy, the Earthly biology doesn't cut it there.
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Adamsm
Garona was able to give birth to a child.Well, Med'an is a Sue so.... immaculate creation? He need to exist so laws of time, space and biology are all altered so that crazy messed up Sargeras infested Medvih screws the human-looking Garona(who doesn't do her Draenei morph till later on in the grand saga of Warcraft), to give birth to the ultimate Sue that is Med'an?
Of course, I still believe that Med'an was meant to be the next mortal body of Sargeras after he wore out Medivh.
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Skreeran
Garona was able to give birth to a child.Well, Med'an is a Sue so.... immaculate creation? He need to exist so laws of time, space and biology are all altered so that crazy messed up Sargeras infested Medvih screws the human-looking Garona(who doesn't do her Draenei morph till later on in the grand saga of Warcraft), to give birth to the ultimate Sue that is Med'an?
Of course, I still believe that Med'an was meant to be the next mortal body of Sargeras after he wore out Medivh.At least he's not Rhonin's child.
/shiver
Oh, the things they will one day do... 0.o
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Dwarfiesgosquish
So wait, could Tauren and Draenei have offspring, the both have hooves, are both big, and both have horn...things.... 0.o
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Haxzor
First, some background knowledge from
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you obviously didn't get too much knowledge from there
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Ganit
First, some background knowledge from
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you obviously didn't get too much knowledge from there
Oh, come on, dude. It's not like he butchered the word completely (as I see many people online do), his "o" key just didn't take.
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reuho
Hmmmm since we are talking about both biology and fantasy how bout this.
Because the Titans(for the most part) used the same stone/iron dwarf template for its life generators then it would be scientifically possiblefor them to be :Ahem: the same species. This is where combining fantasy and science turns hard @_@. Years of evolution made their physical forms different but in their genes somewhere they have some matching pairs.
If someone can read this and make it clearer then by all means do so but i think i did decent enough.
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Adamsm
Hmmmm since we are talking about both biology and fantasy how bout this.
Because the Titans(for the most part) used the same stone/iron dwarf template for its life generators then it would be scientifically possiblefor them to be :Ahem: the same species. This is where combining fantasy and science turns hard @_@. Years of evolution made their physical forms different but in their genes somewhere they have some matching pairs.
If someone can read this and make it clearer then by all means do so but i think i did decent enough.
Except how do the Draenei and the Orc's fall into it? They would be a different template then the humans.
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ArgentSun
Sure, I'll clarify.
Without going deep into Earthen/Dwarven Lore, there is something you should know. The Titans create each race with a function, and each function has a number of... requirements, if you will. A race that is meant to live mostly underground and work with stone (e.g. Earthen) has to have some specific features - features that will be more or less the same in every world where the Titans created such a "deep regions" race. You know, short, strong, robust, natural talent with stone and metal, stuff like that.
This being said... the humans probably came from Vrykul (stone ones, not fleshy) who were affected by the Curse of Flesh and had weak children. Normally a child smaller or weaker than the norm would be killed by the other Vrykul - but there were exceptions. The theory says that those exceptions eventually became numerous - numerous enough to evolve (or devolve) into a new race: the humans.
The point is, if the Titans had ever set foot on Draenor, they probably toyed with the world as they tend to do. Which means they created a race to perform whatever function the Azerothian Vrykul were created to perform. And since the Titans use the same "base" - matrix, or model, or genotype, or design - for each function on every world (modifying it a little, to fit the unique features of said world), Azerothian Vrykul and Draenor's "Vrykul" must have been almost the same thing. So it would have been possible for both to devolve into something human-like. Of course, evolution would require Draenor's version of humans - orcs - to be different.
Stronger. Faster. Better.
More athletic, I think. The savage part and better attunement with the nature (e.g. shamanism) might come from closer relationship with the original Draenor Vrykul.
Man, I like to ramble...
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reuho
Ramble on bro ramble on you have helped make my theory clearer XD.
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