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Orc Racial too Good?
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Post by
Valer
15% stun reduction
Ap boost for 15 seconds
5 Expertise with Axe and Fist
5% More pet damage
I rolled tauren for my enhanace shaman and may have to reroll to Orc.
Tauren got
Endurance - 345 health
War Stomp - 2s cast stun on 2 min cd
Nature Resistance
No Weapon Specialization
Anyone else think Orc racials are slightly too good?
Post by
borealis
They're fine. Tauren just need a boost.
Post by
Kramp
Racials are overrated.
You can tank every fight, do 6k dps, top healing meters or hit 2.8k arena rating as any race.
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133226
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Post by
Valer
Isnt it the same thing really? Just depends how you want to phrase it.
Post by
xaratherus
Isnt it the same thing really? Just depends how you want to phrase it.
No, Orc racials would be considered too good if they were overpowered compared to the racial abilities for
all
the races. Since Orc racials are fairly well-balanced against the other races, that means that cows just need some rBGH.
Personally, I would love to see Tauren get a small (say, 2%) movement bonus racial while outdoors.
Post by
Shiverlynn
That's too small. A movement speed boost like the boots enchant (8%) would be better.
Post by
Valer
Hm, not many other classes have 2 quite significant dps increasing racials though.
Quite a few have 3 expertise for 1 weapon. I think orc racials are slightly over powered and taurens are a quite underpowered compared to other classes.
Post by
Dralas
Ugh, another Valer thread..
Post by
Booterang
Racials don't really matter that much. I picked an orc shaman because the shamans in Warcraft III were orcs. I'll admit that orc racials are quite powerful, but undead are better.
Remember that bloodfury used to reduce healing by 50% (making it useless 90% of the time) and that the +expertise for fist weapons is being implemented in 3.2 since blizzard did not create enough one-hand axes for orc shamans, effectively ignoring that racial skill.
The stun % is nice for PvP, and the pet damage is defintely very useful for a hunter, deathknight or warlock.
Seriously, why are you pointing out that orc racials may be overpowered when it is common knowledge that almost all classes that can be Human chose to for their racials. 10% rep gain, free trinket, more spirit, +expertise with maces or swords, and stealth perception.
The designers have openly pointed out the human race's superiority (as a racial tooltip :D) and any rogue fighting another rogue can confirm that the human one will win more then it will lose. Orc racials are hardly game changing when compared to human ones.
That being said, I am not complaining about human racials, frankly
it doesn't matter that much
, but be aware there are more powerful racials then the orc ones.
As a bit of an upside, shaman base health is being increased somewhat, which will make your tauren racial better.
Post by
Jeremypwnz
Cow Disease: Do to the weight of the Tauren, Your movement speed is reduced by 3% when walking and 8% when mounted. Although, you have learned to use your weight against your opponent, increasing your damage done by 5%.
Post by
Katsudon
The 2 best racials belong to humans. Rep bonus is godly and so is free pvp trinket. Orc racials don't even come close.
Post by
Haxzor
The 2 best racials belong to humans. Rep bonus is godly and so is free pvp trinket. Orc racials don't even come close.
Min/Maxing PvE Orc would be better (for most classes)
But Taurens do need a racial buff
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Post by
faia
Think Racial can be more flavor then a reason to race to be
tauren need really a buff
give them expertise to all 2h!
they did smack people with a freaking totem pole for god's sake! =D
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Post by
TheMediator
The 2 best racials belong to humans. Rep bonus is godly and so is free pvp trinket. Orc racials don't even come close.
Because a rep bonus > Fear breaking amirite?
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Post by
Katsudon
The 2 best racials belong to humans. Rep bonus is godly and so is
free pvp trinket
. Orc racials don't even come close.
Because a rep bonus > Fear breaking amirite?
I bold-ed it cause your reading impaired. Human racial > UD racial.
None of the racials are really game breaking, sure races some might min-max SLIGHTLY better but the 2 most noticible racials will be rep bonus for grinding rep (it makes a significant difference, roll a human alt if you don't believe it) and the free pvp trinket.
Post by
TheMediator
The 2 best racials belong to humans. Rep bonus is godly and so is
free pvp trinket
. Orc racials don't even come close.
Because a rep bonus > Fear breaking amirite?
I bold-ed it cause your reading impaired. Human racial > UD racial.
None of the racials are really game breaking, sure races some might min-max SLIGHTLY better but the 2 most noticible racials will be rep bonus for grinding rep (it makes a significant difference, roll a human alt if you don't believe it) and the free pvp trinket.
No, the rep bonus is crap, rep isn't a useful end-game stat. Every man for himself is great I'll give you that, it lets you fill that slot with a darkmoon death and still use the other for a burst trinket, but don't even say that the undead racial isn't awesome, it is, its the reason why a lot of Rogue Mage Priest teams are filled with undead - breaking as an extra fear on top of your PvP trinket and class skills can turn the tide.
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