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Need before Greed on BoE Items
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Post by
Rayner
Hi all, I was just wondering what is everyone's take on BoE Items and Rolling Need on it.
Someone today accused a Guild mate of mine for Ninja'ing a BoE Item with a Need roll.
The item was for his Alt Spec, and everyone else had gone greed.
Is the Need Before Greed "Ruling" only apply to BoP items or are all items up for grabs, as in, if you need it (Regardless of BoP or BoE) roll need, other wise Greed or Pass.
IMO, My guild mate wasn't a ninja, and the guy just didn't like the fact that he didn't get to Sell a Blue item.
Thoughts?
Post by
Mike
pug, raid roll. if u need it, talk to the winner and negotiate something.
guild. if u need it. make sure u equip straight away so eveyone can see. so they know ur not gonna sell it.
Post by
GravenTerenas
If it's a pick-up group, everyone should greed roll. Most groups I've been in would have no problem passing to someone that would equip the item, as long as they ask first. Need roll without asking first and you most certainly are a ninja in my book (especially if it's not even for your main spec! geez).
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Post by
Maddroxx
when my guild groups for instances, the rule is you don't "need" a roll unless you can use the item in question. when i run a group of lowbies, ill put it on master looter so noone can ninja. of im running a single person, ill put it on free for all, or in certain cases, need before greed and pass on loot, or set the roll threshhold on blue or better.
Post by
Jakal
I have played on 4 realms, and while 3 of them have common rules regarding this (If you need it, as in can/will equip it then need it,) 1 realm (which happens to be IIlidan, not sure if I am allowed to say that on wowhead?) has an entirely diffrent view on BOE's.
The unique phenomenon that has occurred here is that everyone rolls need on all BOE's, regardless if it is an upgrade for anyone (this is only lvl 80 raiding/dungeons) and it is then the choice of the winner to do with it what s/he will. BOP's are Need before greed tho.
I suspect it may have something to do with the fact that Ilidan is a High Pop realm, where the other 3 I play on are low-med pop.
I cannot stress this enough though, that it is crucial to
ESTABLISH/KNOW THAT EVERYONE AGREES ON LOOT RULES BEFORE STARTING.
Saves Drama is the
Bottom line
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Post by
Kalisha
My thoughts? BoE's should still be need before greed,
for main spec
. BoE's for off spec should be greed.
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Post by
Crimor
If you're in a heroic/raid and you actually 'need' a BoE green then you probably shouldn't be in that heroic/raid.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45274
I beg to differ, one of the best resto and ele shammy pants in the game currently.
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Crimor
If you're in a heroic/raid and you actually 'need' a BoE green then you probably shouldn't be in that heroic/raid.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45274
I beg to differ, one of the best resto and ele shammy pants in the game currently.
He said BoE GREEN.
Oh, oops :P
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Post by
Tyrfiing
Tbh I see this thread a little odd, nothing to discuss since it's obvious and common sense.
Post by
Rayner
Thanks for the input guys(and Girls?).
The reason I posted this question is that I'm an officer in my guild and I had to deal with the issue of our guild getting a bad rep for being ninja's (We are not By the way)
I think the way most of you do as well, If you can Use it Now or later (as in Off Spec) then Need roll that Blue BoE.
From my understanding, there wasn't any rules set out before hand, and it seemed like only one guy that was in the group that was complaining... The other people didn't seem to have a problem from what I was told, they didn't kick my Guildmate, but the guy that was complaining left the group.
That "Need all BoE and ask the winner afterwards" idea seems like an Ideal way to avoid ninja's (When ever I do H-UP, I always say "Do we all roll need if the mount drops?" so we all Know.
The bad thing my guild mate did, which I think isn't cool, was that he didn't ask before need rolling on the BoE. I even ask if I can need on BoP upgrades. But yeah, he didn't ask, which is the only bad thing I can see from this issue, and From what I could see, the group didn't say what the rule was regarding BoE items before they started.
Wow, I can type sometimes.
Post by
abulurd
see how we do it on my realm(thunderhorn in case you want to know) is at the begining we check to see if someone can de and if they can normally everyone passes, the enchanter greeds and then we roll for shards at the end, unless you actually need it in which case you roll need, usually doing that means you cant get a shard at the end.
Post by
JemiS
The idea is that everyone *needs* a BoE- they can sell it and use the money to buy a BoE more suited to their class.
However, I've never had anyone have a problem if I've stated that it's an upgrade, and asked to need.
Not asking is bad.
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