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Merlin vs Moonshroud Robe
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Pens1566
You obviously aren't a very good listener, Pens.
No-one here is disputing the power of Merlin's Robe; what we're disputing is the cost to obtain it. Sure, YOU may feel it's easier to plow through 8KG of mats to create something that's only a hair ahead of an easy 25m raid drop, but most of us don't. In fact, Flowing Robes was my very first ToC loot and I've never had a second thought of spending my EPGP to get it.
There are plenty of more important equipment pieces to purchase with Triumph Emblems before gunning for Crusader Orbs, so if you still haven't gotten the drop after 300 emblems worth of bosses, go nuts. You clearly just have bad luck.
I'm not pimping its "power", just refuting the point that its so omgwtfbbq costly. You might want to brush up on your own reading comprehension skills before you go accusing others of something similar ...
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DerrHans
Whit the large amount of emblems u get while doing ToC10 + hardmode + Ony10/25 and even VoA10/25 and still has the option of toc25 + hard getting orbs wont be hard.
I have Tailor as Profession so making cloth isnt the problem.
I have Guildy's with mains and alt with Tailor and happy to spend their CD's for me weaves. Took me 1 week to get all mats and total cost's with buying 2 orbs out the guild bank = 750g.
Guildy had the pattern so no costs in making them.
Could also keep the 750g and wait a few days for a toc reset.
Just ask ur guildy's if ur in a guild that is :)
Provide them the mats and ur ready to go.
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Pens1566
You obviously aren't a very good listener, Pens.
No-one here is disputing the power of Merlin's Robe;
what we're disputing is the cost to obtain it
. Sure, YOU may feel it's easier to plow through 8KG of mats to create something that's only a hair ahead of an easy 25m raid drop, but most of us don't. In fact, Flowing Robes was my very first ToC loot and I've never had a second thought of spending my EPGP to get it.
There are plenty of more important equipment pieces to purchase with Triumph Emblems before gunning for Crusader Orbs, so if you still haven't gotten the drop after 300 emblems worth of bosses, go nuts. You clearly just have bad luck.
I'm not pimping its "power",
just refuting the point that its so omgwtfbbq costly
. You might want to brush up on your own reading comprehension skills before you go accusing others of something similar ...
*points to the bolded statements*
Hmm, quite.
I think you'll find that if you actually
read
the content, nothing was misconstrued. Mayhaps I could direct you to the definition of "comprehension"?
My earlier post stands.
We've seen a few replies that state the price in gold of the mats for the robe... that's exactly the mentality that will stop you from getting it.
True, however prices for goods in general currency aren't made our of thin air; they're respective of the rarity or difficulty involved to obtain the materials. This may be somewhat skewed for someone who can create their own cloth or generates enough emblems to buy Orbs, but it's still not an easy process without some form of serious advantage.
And if you still think its costly after all the posts in here refuting that very point, perhaps you need a new dictionary :)
Assuming (just for $%^&s and giggles) that you have none of the mats, it would take maybe a week to make the amount of gold needed to by ALL mats. Or, you just have no viable means of making money.
To recap:
For all those that can't/don't get to see ToC content (roughly what .... 90% of player base) Merlin is where its at.
For those that do get to see that content and aren't willing to risk rng of worse item dropping, then winning roll/bid, and have a reasonable income and/or choice of raiding professions Merlin is better.
So whats that leave? A very small % of players that are better getting the drop robe.
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Pens1566
Assuming (just for $%^&s and giggles) that you have none of the mats, it would take maybe a week to make the amount of gold needed to by ALL mats. Or, you just have no viable means of making money.
You forgot to add to your (baseless) assumption that said player would have to have an indefinite amount of playing time for this to apply, so your analogy is badly skewed. Crafting items produces a result dependent on time/money invested (variable), where as raid drops are mostly luck-based (one chance per week). This is apples and oranges.
Furthermore, as has been presented ad nauseum, Merlin's Robe is only a smigdge better than the Flowing Vestments. High cost + low (additional) benefit = severely diminished returns.
Like I said before, maybe you feel crafting the item is the better option and more power to you if that is your choice, but the consensus here speaks against your viewpoint for something that isn't considered BiS, so don't get so butthurt that people disagree with you.
Nowhere have I assumed it required an "idefinite about of playing time" ... the week I suggested (which is based on worst case prices btw) was at the reasonable rate of ~1k gold per day which is easily achievable from dailies and AH profit. No more than 2-3 hours a day. If it takes you longer, you're doing it wrong.
The degree to which Merlin is better is dependent on your other gear, there is no absolute X% its better/worse than anything.
The responses in here are also far from "consensus". The posts in here have been even (if that, again giving benefit of doubt). And you can't seem to argue against the fact that Merlin is a better choice for the vast majority of players ... at least without taking personal swipes more suited for the official forums.
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Pens1566
You're hopeless. Dredging up a post from other threads to address one part of my post while yet again conveniently ignoring the rest. The math is pretty simple ...
-10% drop rate. Most likely 5-7 toons per raid that can/will use it (mage, priest, lock).
or
- Dailies/farm for week to get better a better piece.
Good luck in the future with that gearing philosophy. BTW, none of that is made up.
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