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Cryonix
It's a noob question, I know, but what is the hit cap for protection warriors?
Post by
Porcell
It's a noob question, I know, but what is the hit cap for protection warriors?
263 is 8%. It would be 1% less (230 hit rating) if you have a Draenei in your group.
This is Melee hit against level 83 raid bosses.
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Post by
blademeld
You didn't need to call the above poster an "idiot" and expertise provides 2x more "hits" until the soft cap through elimination of dodge and parry.
Hit however, does effect taunt, but for sustainted threat expertise is superior.
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Porcell
As a tank who has cleared all of Uld 25 (except algalon) and all of ToC 25 man (some heroics in 10 man), I think I CLEARLY know what I'm talking about.
Yes I have looked at the new gear, and it has absolutely no hit; I am wearing that gear. My hit has dropped to only 187, and I have noticed dps creeping up on threat more than usual.
Here is my armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&n=Minotaurius
Now maybe for some people (possibly Cluck because he doesn't have a clue except what he reads, obviously) not worrying about hit is feasible. In these cases they probably don't have great dps in their groups, or just aren't doing hard enough content. In that case, eat your heart out with 0 hit.
Instead I like to do my part in making sure the dps can put out their 5-6k dps and not have to hold back.
I can't discount your experience, but I can disagree with your opinion. Would I like more hit on my gear? Yes, certainly I would. However, I'm not going to wear inferior pieces in order to pick up hit rating. For example, I wouldn't use
T8.5 Gloves
instead of
T9.5 Gloves
. For me, the T9.5 is 189 more health, 88 more Attack power, 0.7% more avoidance, 28 BV, 2.2 Defense, and the T8.5 is 1.5% hit. I'm not giving up all of that for just 1.5% hit.
Likewise, I wouldn't use your neck
Hit Badge Neck
over my neck
Arbiter's Muse
. 546 Armor, 212 health, and 81 Attack Power for 1.3% hit.
I guess, and maybe this is just for me, I'll drop a little bit of avoidance for more hit, but I will not trade armor or stamina for more hit. For example, I use
Lingering Vortex
boots over
Spiked Deathdealers
, even though I'm losing around 0.2% avoidance, 55 AP, and a marginal amount of BV and Defense, I'm gaining around 80 health and some hit. I'll make that trade.
I really really really wish that the Tier 9 legs had ANYTHING other than Block Value on them. I could really use that hit, but I won't be itemizing BV to get it...
As for threat arguments, I guess it's different for everyone. A couple weeks ago I had to spec to 5/15/51 (No Imp HS, no DW, no cruelty, no Imp Revenge) because we wanted Imp Demoshout for heroic Gormok 25m. I've been running the spec since then and I haven't had threat issues, even with the non-threat spec and the gimp 160 hit rating.
I'm with you, I would LOVE to be hit capped again like I was in Ulduar, but it really is NOT that important.
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Post by
marklartank
i have to agree with cluck on this. i like hit on my gear, but i never, ever go out of my way to pick it up. in fact, i have no idea what my hit currently sits at.
i do try to keep a reasonable amount of expertise on my gear - somewhere in the low 30's on my progression gear, and more on my threat gear. and yes, expertise makes you hit the mob as well - twice as much as hit does until you get to 26, and just as much as hit does after 26.
dps in my group easily does 5k, and i don't see anyone pushing my on threat. aside from hodir, but in that case they are pushing 11k dps...
clearing content does not automatically make you knowledable. and if you weren't such as ass when you posted, people might respect your opinion a little more.
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blademeld
I guess, and maybe this is just for me, I'll drop a little bit of avoidance for more hit, but I will not trade armor or stamina for more hit. For example, I use
Lingering Vortex
boots over
Spiked Deathdealers
, even though I'm losing around 0.2% avoidance, 55 AP, and a marginal amount of BV and Defense, I'm gaining around 80 health and some hit. I'll make that trade.
I don't know what you're gemming in the yellow sockets, but if you get 30 stamina and match the yellow in the blue socket you're not losing hp with Spiked Deathdealers.
A couple weeks ago I had to spec to 5/15/51 (No Imp HS, no DW, no cruelty, no Imp Revenge) because we wanted Imp Demoshout for heroic Gormok 25m.
You don't have a frost death knight or a paladin, any specced paladin, who could drop 2 points into the AP reduction in a 25 man?
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Porcell
I don't know what you're gemming in the yellow sockets, but if you get 30 stamina and match the yellow in the blue socket you're not losing hp with Spiked Deathdealers.
Matching the yellow in the Death Dealers but going 30 stam in the Lingering Vortex. +10 Defense for -6 Stamina is worth it; +10 Defense and +4 Dodge for -15 Stamina is not worth it.
A couple weeks ago I had to spec to 5/15/51 (No Imp HS, no DW, no cruelty, no Imp Revenge) because we wanted Imp Demoshout for heroic Gormok 25m.
You don't have a frost death knight or a paladin, any specced paladin, who could drop 2 points into the AP reduction in a 25 man?
We didn't have our ret paladin. I wasn't aware of a DK AP Debuff. There's Warrior Demo Shout, Druid Demo Roar, and Ret-Tree Paladin. Our Holy paladins don't take it. We didn't have the Ret Paladin, so someone had to respec, and it ended up being me.
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blademeld
We didn't have our ret paladin. I wasn't aware of a DK AP Debuff. There's Warrior Demo Shout, Druid Demo Roar, and Ret-Tree Paladin. Our Holy paladins don't take it. We didn't have the Ret Paladin, so someone had to respec, and it ended up being me.
Oops, I meant Warlocks, not Death Knights.
The holy paladins should have had 51/0/18 + 2 spec so it would have been easier on them.
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Post by
blademeld
Can anybody come up with an at level content in which makes Hit point for point a better stat then Stam, Expertise or Defense?
Hit is better than defense for anything level 1-79, non-raids ;)
That and naxx 40...
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