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Post by
Morec0
The was the first of the Lich King's death knights.
Post by
Skreeran
Okay, I have a question that I've always wanted answered.
Was Arthas the real first Scourge DK?
I'm too lazy to look it up.Indeed he was.
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Post by
Rankkor
let's analize this darkton, step by step savvy?
orcs came to azeroth, did horrible crimes, genocide, invations , kidnapped the queen of life, caused pain and misery to everyone.
then, the orcs got betrayed from within, this gave the alliance their chance to win the war.
the orcs lost, and they paid the prize of their terrible deeds, they were imprisoned, beated up mercilessly every day for 20 years.
used as slaves, gladiators, fighting vicious beasts and each others just for the entertainement of other humans. but hey, they had it comming rite? they are the ones who came looking for troubles.
now, then came my hero thrall, he decided that 2 decades in jail was enough punishment, and that the horde had to make their own destiny, he breaks free the orc clans, and instead of taking by force the lands of the humans, thrall leads his people to a distant land, so that there won't be any problems.
along the way he finds, rescues, and befriends the darkspear trolls, and tauren.
then they find a small group of humans who fled from lordaeron, at first they fight, but then they settle their diferences aside (thanks to medivh's intervention)
in the end, at hyjal, humans, orcsn trolls, taurens, night elves, dwarves, high-elves, and even furbolgs, stood up against the darkness and saved the world.
perfect, then after that what the hell happened?
thrall led his people away, they had paid the price of their crimes by languishing on a prison for 20 years.
just like that the kul'tiras marines come and start atacking the orcs, without provokation, and then for reasons I still don't understand, night-elves join the alliance and become an enemy of the horde.
and so, now we are at war, and for what? for what reason? is it for money? is it for love? is it for lands? resources?
what was it that evaporated the fragile peace that hyjal set?
the orcs fled the eastern kingdoms precisely so that they didn't had to compete with the humans for lands. and other than the lumber operation on ashenvale, no other horde incursion is going on.
so why are the humans of stormwind so fixated to kill orcs? after 20 years in jail?
(and my "republican" comment was out of line, I take it back, sorry U_U)
Post by
Patty
neither does Varian.
How much longer will we allow these savages free reign in our world?
I know what evil lies in the hearts of orcs.
To disband your treacherous kingdom of murderers and thieves
I've waited a long time for this, Thrall. For every time I was thrown into one of your damned arenas... for every time I killed a green-skinned aberration like you... I could only think of one thing.
What our world could be without you and your twisted Horde... It ends now, Warchief.
Edit:
Everyone change the subject....
now
Who do you think you are trying to dictate us? It's you that does half the flaming anyway. There's no smoke without fire, so to speak.
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Post by
Patty
Thanks everyone for the answer ^_^
*runs off to do some history changing*
Sorry, but he was the first one who wasn't an orc I think, or one of the first.
Post by
Adamsm
Yeah, Arthas was the first of the 2nd Generation Death Knights.
Post by
Rankkor
there are 2 generations of DKs
old horde DKs and scourge DKs
if we're talkign bout old horde DK's teron gorefiend was the first.
if we're talking about scourge DK's arthas was the first.
Post by
Adamsm
3 generations Rankkorr; Gul'dan's, Arthas and his group, then the 3rd Generation is the Player Death Knights.
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229054
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Post by
Skreeran
That equates to me as either enslaving the Horde (as in: military state or internment camps), or wiping them out.
Either way, that's a like of death, on both the Alliance and Horde sides.
Post by
Adamsm
Actually the player Death Knights are exactly like Arthas' group. They are considered part of the Second Generation.
Edit: Nevermind.
Edit2: Damn, wowwiki's page is contradicting itself... IMO they are the same because they use the same kind of power and the same combat techniques.
Heh, I know Delt.
Post by
Patty
Evil in the hearts of Orcs? He says it like it is a disease, in need of purging.
Savages reigning free? If not killing them, sticking them in more internment camps to eventually die out anyway.
Murderers and thieves? Yes, the orphans from Daelin's armada must be murderers. Obviously it is all the Orcs' fault because they have green skin!
Killing green-skinned abberations, wishing for no Horde. Can you make out what his likely methods for putting the Horde down would involve?
He reminds me of Proudmoore and Arthas in some respects.
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Patty
It must really bug you that he's not going anywhere then.
I'm going to ask you the same thing I asked Rankkor: What has the Horde done to earn Varian's trust?
Might of Kalimdor and Hyjal counts?Stole the words out of my mouth.
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