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Dw dps kind of dissapointing...
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Post by
Maxeer
So after i switched from blood to frost dw i went to do a dps test in h uk and h up. I was expecting at least 3.1k or 3.2k but my dps was only a measely 2.9k.
This is the spec im using
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jZG0exA0ckf0cuzAofM0hxc:akp
As blood i could easily do 3k dps with tsd so im wondering if its just uk is a bad place to test frost dps or what..
Any help is appreciated thanks
ok edit: my problem is that i have better weapons in dw than blood but my dps is lower
Post by
Bonurmum
Probably a rotation thing, seeing as DWs is quite confusing, I also assum it was not overall you were measuring and instead bosses? If it was boss DPS were you unluky enough to be the target of multiple frost tombs/had less face time with the boss for what ever reason?
Read the DW threads and practice your rotation a bit on a dummy and try again maybe, hard to tell w/o armory considering you could also be way under hit cap or exp cap.
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Post by
Maxeer
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Rivendare&n=Bleid
heres my armory link, i know i have some pvp gear that needs replacing and ya those fights i recorded were boss fights
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Post by
Maxeer
Well I know that I have a bunch of enchants that I need to work on and as for gemming..well I'm below hit cap without gems =/
Oh and I chose razorice cuz stickies say so :p
And some of the gear like gloves and cloak I'm hoping to replace soon so I don't want to waste an enchant or two
Post by
davezznl
Dw frost will improve a lot once your gear improves.
Once you get better gear dw frost should be better then blood, but if you are still wearing pvp items i think blood will be better atm.
Post by
Maxeer
Well thanks for all the replies.
Also could someone help me with my gemming?
Post by
davezznl
Hit-> expertise -> strenght
Thats the Prio list i use.
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Post by
davezznl
I can pull around 2k as dw frost atm, while my main spec is tanking.
I dont have reach hit cap + exp cap. But 2k in a hc i good enough. I was blood at first but that didnt work for me.
The rotation as dw is pretty easy,
it, ps, ob, bs, bs, dump (fs)3x most of the time
ob, ob, ob, dump (fs) 2x
then start over with IT, etc
think thats pretty simple.
A friend of mine is dps blood, you can check his armory for his spec he gets 4k out easily
Name: raido
Server: neptulon
Post by
Groundead
Probably a rotation thing, seeing as DWs is quite confusing, I also assum it was not overall you were measuring and instead bosses? If it was boss DPS were you unluky enough to be the target of multiple frost tombs/had less face time with the boss for what ever reason?
Read the DW threads and practice your rotation a bit on a dummy and try again maybe, hard to tell w/o armory considering you could also be way under hit cap or exp cap.
DW rotation is far from confusing. its the standard roation pretty much any spec uses, the only thing "hard" is using rime and km together.
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Post by
Eleazer
Frost rotation isn't difficult if you just run the rotation without paying attention to clickies/procs and so on. The tough part is in a full on boss fight you must remember you are a priority rotation spec, not a basic rotation. If you keep your priority correct than you will be fine. The hardest part is learning to break from the "standard" rotation when the situation arises (usually waiting for KM to proc after Rime or if no km procs soon enough judging when to use Rime). Plus when you have to leave a boss and come back, you don't just start your rotation over you check your diseases to find out where in your priority you should be. Reapplying diseases too early hurts your dps and can throw off your rotation. Getting a Rime/KM proc as your diseases are falling off is beyond annoying.
Out of all the dk's, DW frost has the nastiest rotation, but it's nothing like druid feral dps rotation.
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Post by
Eleazer
440 is a hit cap for spell misses. However it's up to you as to whether you want to gem for it, anything past 8 percent hit increases IT/HB and Melee hit chance. I am sitting at 196 which is over the special hit cap but well under the spell hit cap, and my dps is fine, I miss alot of melee swings which means less KM procs, but I don't miss on specials which are far more important.
Your hit is fine, expertise is far more important once you get past 8 percent hit. I like to be up around 300 hit, but my gear doesn't allow me to get it at the moment, unless I completely regemmed to just deal with hit.
Post by
Maxeer
Ok well I fixed my glyph and talents and I'm using powa to keep track of procs.
I did 3.3k dps on black knight which is an improvement:) but it's part aoe so I'm waiting for a good single target fight to see my dps.
Thanks for your help guys
O and should I replace my hit gems with some expertise gems?
Post by
davezznl
26 exp is the cap, if you got hit cap (8%) then replace them with expertise, after that go for pure strenght.
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