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Post by
Squishalot
I used to do a lot of HDR. It is great for cheap point and shoot cameras as they don't have a lot of dynamic range. With DSLRs I find it pointless since they already have a much better dynamic range. Also, with DSLRs you can shoot raw, which gives you a lot more flexibility with adjusting the colours or tones in the photo compared to shooting JPEG.
HDR is an inherently flawed technique IMO as it reduces contrast and can cause halos on any areas where there is a fringe between light and dark tones. I have seen HDRs done in an artistic and pleasing manner, but they are few and far between.
Another technique which I think is probably superior to HDR, is taking 2 exposures - one exposed for the shadows and one exposed for the highlights - and then rather than merging them together as an HDR, simply layering the bright one over the top of the dark one, and then applying a mask over the area you don't want to be brightened. That is the technique I used with the low view shot - the dark exposure brought out the colours in the sky but the boats were black. The bright exposure brought more detail to the boats but the sky was white. So I applied the bright exposure as a layer on top of the dark exposure, then simply used the quick selection tool to select the sky and painted over it with a black brush in layer mask mode. This prevented it from being brightened so I managed to keep the colour in the sky, without affecting the overall contrast of the image. (Except for the ground:sky contrast of course).
Make sense?
That sounds essentially like a manual version of what I understand HDR to be doing anyway, so it makes moreorless sense to me (though that could be my flawed understanding of the actual mechanics of HDR).
My girlfriend's D90 has an HDR mode which takes three exposures (ideal, over, under) and stores those for combining in Photoshop / other program, much the way that you're talking about. What's the point-and-shoot HDR technique?
Post by
Interest
You have fun =).
Anyone know if Jack Daniels is any good (I think I asked this already).
Fun is being had, as for Jack Daniels it is good for getting drunk.
Any thoughts on the honeyed one?
Anyone know if Jack Daniels is any good (I think I asked this already).
No it's horrible. If you want to try some really good whiskey may I draw your attention here
http://www.glengoyne.com/single_malt_whisky/malt_whisky_range/
WOW #$%^ that. It's nearly three times as much.
Post by
yukonjack
WOW #$%^ that. It's nearly three times as much.
Always go for quality over quantity especially when it comes to whiskey.
Post by
Interest
WOW #$%^ that. It's nearly three times as much.
Always go for quality over quantity especially when it comes to whiskey.
If I actually had the money, sure, why not.
But I'm just trying to understand what it's like to be drunk and all that. Also, I don't have that much money to burn.
Post by
yukonjack
But I'm just trying to understand what it's like to be drunk and all that. Also, I don't have that much money to burn.
So then it's safe to assume you have never been drunk before in which case it won't take much of any kind of alcohol to get you there so why not drink something that won't automatically make you want to vomit?
Post by
OverZealous
Are you willing to share what camera and camera settings you use for those pictures? I know I've asked about your camera before, but seeing as that might be a few hundred pages back...
Anyway, I got myself a Nikon 600D the other day and I've been experimenting with settings and stuff; but I'd appreciate advice from someone more experienced than me.
I think you'll find that the 600D is made by Canon. :P
I could start rambling off into a long-winded lesson on the basics of photography. But it'd probably read just like
this
which was the first thing I read when I started out. There's about 30 articles but each shouldn't take any more than 5 minutes to read.
Once you've done that, feel free to email me with further questions.
That said, this is how I took these photos:
Bor both photos I had my camera set on a tripod and was using manual mode.
For the low view I took 3 photos with a shutter speed of 2.5sec, aperture of f/11.0 and an ISO of 100. I then stitched the 3 together in Photoshop to create the panorama.
For the high view I took 1 photo with a shutter speed of 30sec, apperture of f/10.0 and an ISO of 100.
My camera is a Nikon D5100, which is the direct market competitor to the 600D.
Haha wow, I kind of derped - I was debating getting a Nikon, the same camera as you in fact, but decided to go with the Canon
^^
Anyway, I was fiddling with the settings a bit last night and the sheer amount of different setups is crazy. I know nothing (except never to use auto-focus
^^
), basically, but I'm learning. I'll look through those articles when I'm home; thanks a lot.
Post by
donnymurph
Interest, Jack Daniels is quite a good middle shelf whiskey. yukonjack is obviously some holier-than-thou whiskey drinker who thinks he's above such a trifling beverage. It goes great with Coke, Diet Coke, or lemonade. Once you've had 3 or 4, you can also shot it, but I wouldn't suggest shotting the stuff when you're stone-cold sober.
@Squish.
Most cameras have the HDR mode, even cheap point and shoots (you might refer to these as pocket digitals or something like that). What I was saying was that the technique is irrelevant for DSLRs such as the D90 because the cameras have a good dynamic range anyway, plus you can recover flat shadows in Photoshop if you shoot raw rather than JPEG.
As for the mechanics of HDR, basically what it does is merges and tonemaps the shadows, highlights and midtones of the
whole image
. What this ends up doing is robbing the image of contrast and generally makes it boring to look at.
Here
is an example of an HDR done on a D90 to illustrate what I mean.
The layering technique that I was talking about doesn't tonemap the whole image. Rather, the effect is more like taking 2 prints, one overexposed and one underexposed. Then getting a pair of scissors, cutting the sky out of the underexposed print and glueing it onto the overexposed print. There is no neutral exposure. So what happens is that everything on the ground still maintains pleasing contrast with everything else on the ground, while everything in the sky maintains pleasing contrast with everything else in the sky. The ground:sky contrast is reduced, but that's fine because that's the reason you are doing it anyway.
Here
again is my photo of the marina to illustrate what I mean (not a perfect example, I'm still perfecting the technique myself).
Post by
donnymurph
Haha wow, I kind of derped - I was debating getting a Nikon, the same camera as you in fact, but decided to go with the Canon
^^
Anyway, I was fiddling with the settings a bit last night and the sheer amount of different setups is crazy. I know nothing (except never to use auto-focus
^^
), basically, but I'm learning. I'll look through those articles when I'm home; thanks a lot.
Auto-focus is fine. Fantastic, in fact. Sports and portrait photographers would be totally screwed without auto-focus. Auto-exposure, however, is not fine.
Only use manual mode, or the semi-automatic modes (aperture priority, shutter priority and program). Those articles should explain how they work.
Post by
Interest
Interest, Jack Daniels is quite a good middle shelf whiskey. yukonjack is obviously some holier-than-thou whiskey drinker who thinks he's above such a trifling beverage. It goes great with Coke, Diet Coke, or lemonade. Once you've had 3 or 4, you can also shot it, but I wouldn't suggest shotting the stuff when you're stone-cold sober.
Thanks.
Post by
322702
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Post by
donnymurph
If you aren't accustomed to the taste of Jack Daniel's, it can be a little harsh when you drink it straight. But your body seems to have this mechanism though that increases your ability to stomach alcohol once you are already under the influence. So by the time you've had 3 or 4 and are feeling the threshold effects of drunkenness ("tipsy"), then you should be able to shot it no problem.
Post by
Interest
If you aren't accustomed to the taste of Jack Daniel's, it can be a little harsh when you drink it straight. But your body seems to have this mechanism though that increases your ability to stomach alcohol once you are already under the influence. So by the time you've had 3 or 4 and are feeling the threshold effects of drunkenness ("tipsy"), then you should be able to shot it no problem.
I'm just gonna drink the first few like ...wine or w/e.
Post by
OverZealous
Haha wow, I kind of derped - I was debating getting a Nikon, the same camera as you in fact, but decided to go with the Canon
^^
Anyway, I was fiddling with the settings a bit last night and the sheer amount of different setups is crazy. I know nothing (except never to use auto-focus
^^
), basically, but I'm learning. I'll look through those articles when I'm home; thanks a lot.
Auto-focus is fine. Fantastic, in fact. Sports and portrait photographers would be totally screwed without auto-focus. Auto-exposure, however, is not fine.
Only use manual mode, or the semi-automatic modes (aperture priority, shutter priority and program). Those articles should explain how they work.
Of course you'll need auto-focus if shooting things on the fly (and yes, it does look freaking amazing), but from my understanding it is not recommended if you're shooting things (say, a sunset or a boat or whatever) that aren't going anywhere - something to do with the pictures being better if you're good enough a photographer. A significantly lower skillcap, if you will.
Anyway yeah, I will.
Post by
donnymurph
For shooting landscapes/scenery etc, usually what I do is auto-focus the scene first, and then trun auto-focus off so that it doesn't "hunt" between shots. Also if I'm taking a panorama I don't want the focus shifting from shot-to-shot so I'll auto-focus and then turn it off.
Post by
OverZealous
I see.
Post by
Interest
Dang it. Why's it so hard to think of more stuff to write into my newbie guides.
Post by
Patty
If you aren't accustomed to the taste of Jack Daniel's, it can be a little harsh when you drink it straight. But your body seems to have this mechanism though that increases your ability to stomach alcohol once you are already under the influence. So by the time you've had 3 or 4 and are feeling the threshold effects of drunkenness ("tipsy"), then you should be able to shot it no problem.
I'm just gonna drink the first few like ...wine or w/e.
Wine is horrible
although rosè isn't too bad, well it's a better alternative to beer any way
Post by
Interest
If you aren't accustomed to the taste of Jack Daniel's, it can be a little harsh when you drink it straight. But your body seems to have this mechanism though that increases your ability to stomach alcohol once you are already under the influence. So by the time you've had 3 or 4 and are feeling the threshold effects of drunkenness ("tipsy"), then you should be able to shot it no problem.
I'm just gonna drink the first few like ...wine or w/e.
Wine is horrible
although rosè isn't too bad, well it's a better alternative to beer any way
I said drink it LIKE wine. I don't like wine myself but I do know how to drink it (drinking a dessert wine nowadays...)
Post by
gamerunknown
Woo music
.
Also, donny, what do you think of my
uncle's photography
? May have linked it here before.
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