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Do bear tanks really have that much health?
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Post by
hellsslayer
Hey so I have NEVER played a Druid past lvl 11 and I have grouped with Druid tanks before but I never really noticed that they had more health than say, my dk tank before 3.2. Can someone please tell me how much health they have in bear form and how much going into bear form adds to their health pool?
(god this is really newby of me... Sorry)
Post by
109094
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Post by
hellsslayer
Damn that's alotta health...
*scurries off to start creating his bear tank and get him to 80*
and thanks for the quick response =)
Post by
hashmel
stamina multipliers for tanks
warrior = 106% with
V
pally = 114.48% with
SD
and
CE
death knight = 106% in
FP
, 109.18% in
FP
and with
VotTW
druid = 148.665% in
DB
with
IMotW
,
SotF
, and
HotW
warriors then have
LS
30% max health
blood death knights have
VB
15% max health
druids have
SI
and
GoSI
30% / 45% max health
currently as a feral tank
fully raid buffed with glyphed SI popped while wearing polar gear
i've hit around 72600 health, i had saved it in a macro out of awe before my UI had to be deleted
Post by
hellsslayer
stamina multipliers for tanks
warrior = 106% with
V
pally = 114.48% with
SD
and
CE
death knight = 106% in
FP
, 109.18% in
FP
and with
VotTW
druid = 148.665% in
DB
with
IMotW
,
SotF
, and
HotW
warriors then have
LS
30% max health
blood death knights have
VB
15% max health
druids have
SI
and
GoSI
30% / 45% max health
currently as a feral tank
fully raid buffed with glyphed SI popped while wearing polar gear
i've hit around 72600 health, i had saved it in a macro out of awe before my UI had to be deleted
You my furry friend are my new idol... If I had half that much health (unbuffed) I would be proud of myself.
*bows down to hashmel*
Post by
175113
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Post by
Sandos
stamina multipliers for tanks
warrior = 106% with
V
pally = 114.48% with
SD
and
CE
death knight = 106% in
FP
, 109.18% in
FP
and with
VotTW
druid = 148.665% in
DB
with
IMotW
,
SotF
, and
HotW
warriors then have
LS
30% max health
blood death knights have
VB
15% max health
druids have
SI
and
GoSI
30% / 45% max health
currently as a feral tank
fully raid buffed with glyphed SI popped while wearing polar gear
i've hit around 72600 health, i had saved it in a macro out of awe before my UI had to be deleted
You my furry friend are my new idol... If I had half that much health (unbuffed) I would be proud of myself.
*bows down to hashmel*
Well it's a lot of health, but it's with survival instincts on and polar gear is, while providing a lot of stamina, not particularly good for avoidance.
Post by
109094
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Post by
Turax
40k hp unbuffed in bear form , 37% dodge , still got a few pieces of blue gear to replace though ..
Post by
Heckler
As somewhat of a side-effect of our high stam multipliers (and our built in crit immunity), I can tank Heroics completely in my Cat DPS set and still have ~30k hp with typical 5man buffs (and 40% - 50% dodge). I can also pull 2500-3000 dps (5k+ with mangle popped, woot), which is a plus when it comes to speed-mode-ing.
I haven't bothered to do the math to figure out if any of my Bear (Str) pieces are superior to my Cat (Agi/ArPen) pieces when it comes to increasing Bear DPS, but most pugs are sufficiently impressed when the tank tops (or almost tops) the meters, takes less damage than most tanks (high avoidance), and the run takes 15 minutes -- It's fun.
Post by
pelf
Yeah, I tank heroics in my DPS gear. It leaves me around where I started in blues, health wise -- something like 24-26k. OTOH, as you said, I do like 3-4k DPS spamming swipe and burning from group to group.
It's good fun.
Post by
192088
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Post by
Lightrain
I don't use the glyph of SI and hit 68k with SI popped. I was sitting around 48-49k raid buffed(without imp motw talented and only one stam trinket). I could squeeze more stam out of my gear if I actually cared to find out how much stam I could stack, but I don't raid anymore and regemed/enchanted everything to dps before I stopped raiding(and I wasn't using all BIS gear either).
Post by
260787
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Post by
hellsslayer
Akh!
My threads been hijacked by the Druid tank terrorists!
Run for the hills!
Post by
109094
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Post by
Qlix
40k hp unbuffed in bear form , 37% dodge , still got a few pieces of blue gear to replace though ..
i laughed. hard.
Post by
MegaVolt
40k hp unbuffed in bear form , 37% dodge , still got a few pieces of blue gear to replace though ..
i laughed. hard.
Why?
I'm at 38k HP, 39.5% dodge and I also have a few blues to replace. Well, "a few blues" meaning both trinkets. Still using
Monarch Crab
(which is unlikely to get replaced any time soon since it is just too awesome with epic gems in it) and
Essence of Grossamer
since that stupid Black Heart just won't drop for me (after about 18 runs now). Rest is ilvl 219 and 226 gear ofc with crafted ilvl 200 cloak and shoulders left.
Oh and I got a question:
I have read up on diminishing returns (since everybody says dodge above 50% gets really bad) and I looked at the diminishing returns graph - it doesn't actually look that bad. There is no hard cap anywhere and the curve just flattens a bit. That actually motivated me to go for more avoidance instead of HP, meaning that I will finally buy a DMC:Greatness. Now assuming that the Black Heart will eventually drop for me I'd either have to replace that one or my Monarch Crab with Greatness.
Monarch Crab fully gemmed gives 111 stamina, 10 agility and 300 dodge for 10/60 of the time.
Black Heart gives 126 stamina and 7k armor for 10/45 of the time.
Greatness (as we all know) gives 90 agility and another 300 agility 15/45 of the time.
Which one would you replace with Greatness? Or would you keep the sta trinkets?
Post by
176018
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Post by
Qlix
As Mareimbri said, Im sitting in full Ulduar raid gear the only blue I have Essence of Gossomer. Everything else is 219+ and I dont break 40k unbuffed. Yet I sit at 46k raid buffed. So someone saying theyre in at 40k unbuffed WITH 37% dodge is really unbelievable. maybe MAYBE if you wore all the frost pieces... but you wouldnt have that much dodge. and not with blues.
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