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AoE on trash - SoC or RoF?
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general rule:
3 mobs = all specs use RoF
4 or more = if emberstorm is in your build then use RoF if not use SoC.
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I hate to say this folks but there's no comparison. SoC kicks the hell out of RoF in every way. All you have to do is shower a load of SoC's on a few different mobs in a group of 4 or more and just watch the numbers spam on your screen. Probably tripled my AoE dps when comparing it to RoF. But don't take my word for it, try it out. Just gotta hope your tank can hold em....
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Razmortis
Some times, if it's three mobs and I play Affliction, I usually do Corr+UA
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RoF. Don't know if it's "better", but it feels heavier.
Also, as a side note, if you fight two big ones like the two big fire dudes before Ignis and play Affliction, DoT both up and keep both dotted all the time, use haunt and shadow bolt spam, and you'll notice something fun on the damage meters. :D
(if you can pull it off)
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I hate to say this folks but there's no comparison. SoC kicks the hell out of RoF in every way. All you have to do is shower a load of SoC's on a few different mobs in a group of 4 or more and just watch the numbers spam on your screen. Probably tripled my AoE dps when comparing it to RoF. But don't take my word for it, try it out. Just gotta hope your tank can hold em....
Thats a load of bull. SoC is ONLY superior for Deep Affliction and Deep Demonology; if you are FG/Ember or Deep Destro, RoF will DESTROY SoC 100% of the time.
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asakawa
the point is that RoF really shines in builds that take emberstorm.
the use of RoF over SoC is similar to incinerate or shadowbolt. if you have emberstorm you will generally want to use fire spells.
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Fingulfin
I hate to say this folks but there's no comparison. SoC kicks the hell out of RoF in every way. All you have to do is shower a load of SoC's on a few different mobs in a group of 4 or more and just watch the numbers spam on your screen. Probably tripled my AoE dps when comparing it to RoF. But don't take my word for it, try it out. Just gotta hope your tank can hold em....
Thats a load of bull. SoC is ONLY superior for Deep Affliction and Deep Demonology; if you are FG/Ember or Deep Destro, RoF will DESTROY SoC 100% of the time.
why would you say SoC is better in Meta/ruin aka deep demo if you picked up ruin which only applies to destruction spells = RoF
Like Asakawa said, without Emberstorm SoC will outplay RoF (higher innate damage). Warlock's crit chance is so low these days, we can't really rely on it. I could be wrong though, RoF might be more practical for meta locks but I seriously doubt it.
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dusterbush
I hate to say this folks but there's no comparison. SoC kicks the hell out of RoF in every way. All you have to do is shower a load of SoC's on a few different mobs in a group of 4 or more and just watch the numbers spam on your screen. Probably tripled my AoE dps when comparing it to RoF. But don't take my word for it, try it out. Just gotta hope your tank can hold em....
Thats a load of bull. SoC is ONLY superior for Deep Affliction and Deep Demonology; if you are FG/Ember or Deep Destro, RoF will DESTROY SoC 100% of the time.
*sigh* Sometimes finqulfin, the proof is in the pudding. You're talking to a long time user of RoF. But instead of helping my dps it would bring it down. Unless there were close to a dozen mobs within the channelled area. Suddenly i decided to try out the SoC and i found i was able to easily sustain 3500 dps throughout a naxx run (trash and bosses). Keep in mind i'm sportin' three-quarters 10 man gear as well. Reguardless of my felguard/ember spec, SoC works for my style and obviously RoF works for whatever yours is.
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asakawa
dusterbush: "SoC kicks the hell out of RoF in every way"
fingulfin: "SoC kicks the hell out of RoF in every way"
you say black, he says white. you can't then say grey and tell him off for being so extreme in his view. the facts are on his(fin's) side but as always facts can be tempered with playstyle. if i say affliction is the best dps spec but you can't get good numbers from aff then there isn't much point in continuing to play aff.
fin's advice is correct. you can say that you can't make it work but not that he's wrong. well, not without more than anecdotal evidence anyway.
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