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Monday
Humans were racist to blood elves.
Sylvanas used to be a blood elf.
Sylvanas was dead before the high elves became the blood elves.
It is this quote: Death to the Scourge and death to the living!" that kinda sets off the humans.
Not to mention the Forskane would slaughter any humans in their territory, no matter who they were.
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taurenmoo812
Sorry, but if any of you have ever called the Alliance hypocrites for not taking in Forsaken, but allowing death knights and worgen, you are lore dead.
Was it the Alliance who were to ones "refusing" when Sylvanas killied Garithos after promising the Alliance Lordaeron?
She was intelligent enough to see him for what he was, and put an end to his misrable life. He was something she used to her advantage, and then had him killed like any tool tossed aside, easy enough.
Or were the Forsaken being "denied" when their early quests show them wanting to destroy "the scum of Azeroth", the humans?
Many years later after the events in comparison.
Or how about when Sylvanas admits she wants to destroy the human race in RotLK?
Same as above, the forsaken arn't prepared to try for any form of peace with those that have hounded them as monsters.. not unlike your king aye?
So no, this thread is pointless.
Every thread is pointless to you isn't it, such a constructive argument you make.
Besides, Genn and Varian are clearly
"friends"
in BtDP, of course they want to meet again :D
Clearly, you know a little of this as anyone else. More then likely it he doesn't give a crap about Genn, but since the forsaken are attacking them, Varian uses this as another reason to fight the horde, rather then creating another. Genn = liability
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Monday
Most of the rulers of the alliance were rivals early on. Genn and Perenolde were the two who were most opposed to the Alliance, which basically made them opposed to Varian, who wanted Azeroth back, (although he was kinda young when the alliance was formed.)
And if you are talking about the book, beyond the dark portal, then you would have recognized that in the scene where Nethergarde is being built, (the only scene with Genn), that the only thing Varian said to Genn was a rebuke, intended to defuse Genn, to stop him from making the other leaders of the Alliance opposed to Nethergarde Keep.
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Orranis
The Forsaken want nothing to do with the human race other than to drive them to extinction... plus they are plagued still and would infect the rest of the human race.
P.S. I think this goes in the lore forums
1. Maybe because they're racist brothers and sisters of old didn't take them back because they were ulgy, they got kind of emo?
2. Umm... No? They were killed by the plague, but we aren't infecting the horde are we?
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Adamsm
umm why is everyone saying Forsaken have blight.....? Pretty sure Orcs, Trolls, Tauren, and.......Blood Elves.......arent infected by this "blight". and It's funny that the alliance take back the Worgen after Genn and all of Gilneas completely turned their backs on the alliance at the end of w2, beginning of w3. and Varian knows Sylvannas.Not Plague Blight, Forsaken Blight, you know the thing they used to kill all those people at the Wrathgate? He also wants to seperate Sylvanas's head from her shoulder.
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Well I feel this was a constructive post and at the end of the day we can all agree that alliance are hypocrites
...The End
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taurenmoo812
Well what about the innocent people who suffered because they had no choice but to follow him?
Sylvanas is easily 10x more of a villian then Garithos was.
How is that an excuse for being a racist bigot who would have used any none humans as cannon fodder?
There never has one, the Forsaken have always loved to destroy humans when ever the chance opens up.
Bypassing the lore much? Such as the forsaken who tried to find there still living families and were turned away?
Umm.... you have it the other way around, the Forsaken are the ones who haunt the humans like monsters.
You mean after they have been hunted like monsters by humans first? Always seem to forget that bit.
Please find your passion in life.
Oh so this is coming down to a personal level then? Quite a poor answer or just dodging the facts?
You should really consider renaming yourself "trollmon812."
This is exactly what I meant when I said you always have to bring personal threads everywhere when ever you see my name.
And yes, calling the Alliance "hypocrites" is stupied, and pointless.
And I'm not the only one here who sees what you do, unless its a thread where people are bending over to Varian, its always a pointless thread isn't it.
Said like a true-blue Varian-hater
But, yeah, Varian probobly does not care about Genn because he told Terenas to screw himself before he closed Gilneas.
We will just have to wait and see what the other Alliance races think about worgen though....
And who knows? Varian is very forgiving (I am not being sarcastic, he has literaly gone through so much to live in peace with the Horde.), he might even forgive Genn.... After all, his skin is not green :P
What reason do I have to like Varian. Haven't I made it clear by now I think he's a pig and deserves to be eaten by deathwing? (thank you again for that wonderful story Adam).
And he and the alliance are hypocrites, allowing worgen and death knights into there faction but having dismissed anything for the forsaken, they are hyppcrites for this reason.
I'm sorry, did you just try and convince us Varian is forgiving... maybe I should end my posts with emotes too to make it seem like 'oh I'm just kidding :P :D :S :O'
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taurenmoo812
Besides, Genn and Varian are clearly
"friends"
in BtDP, of course they want to meet again :D
Clearly, you know a little of this as anyone else. More then likely it he doesn't give a crap about Genn, but since the forsaken are attacking them, Varian uses this as another reason to fight the horde, rather then creating another. Genn = liability
Varian was abducted by the horde on his way to a diplomatic meeting, and forced to fight in the horde arenas for entertainment. He needs no other reason to hate the horde.
Don't take it personally nleonard, but we've heard it all before, also every point after it about Wrynns failed attempt to listen to reason and quick judgement.
Also, same thing happened to Thrall, and he turned out decent.
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Adamsm
Varian was abducted by the horde on his way to a diplomatic meeting, and forced to fight in the horde arenas for entertainment. He needs no other reason to hate the horde.Yes he was abducted... by Defias and Naga working for Onyxia. The Horde found him after the spell to split in him two was cast, and all they knew at the time was that they had found a human they termed 'Crocbait', they had no idea it was Varian.
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Skreeran
Varian was abducted by the horde on his way to a diplomatic meeting, and forced to fight in the horde arenas for entertainment. He needs no other reason to hate the horde.Yes he was abducted... by Defias and Naga working for Onyxia. The Horde found him after the spell to split in him two was cast, and all they knew at the time was that they had found a human they termed 'Crocbait', they had no idea it was Varian.And it still wasn't the Horde. It was a group of orcs who worked in the Crimson Ring, a criminal organization composed of orcs, tauren, trolls, goblins, and yes... humans.
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