Post by Liquoid
You can't be all cynical on the Rogue forums. Try to have a legitimately respectful conversations sometimes, regardless of your opinion of the guy you're talking to. If you don't know opposing poster and assume he's a noob, or if you do know the opposing poster and don't respect him because he's known to be a jerk, do try to talk to get to know him better before dissing.
That's how I initially treated this sub-forums, but I eventually leaned upon the jerk arsehole attitude largely because of average WoW player's standards, experience and ability to talk ^&*! even when losing an argument. That is something I somewhat regret, now that I look back at my posting history on this sub-forum. I started out with trying to craft detailed laid-out questions for the theorycrafters to debate as "food for thought", on guild forums, official wow-europe forums and rogue forums here at Wowhead, and that is how I learnt.
I was largely disgusted by posters on official forums for their lack of background research on gameplay, and impressed greatly by posters on guild forums for their combined theorycrafting sessions.
Rogue forums were always the "No Man's Land" in the sense of that I tried to respect all the posters on Wowhead like I would respect guildie posters on our internal forums. But the combination of overwhelming lack of knowledge and extreme stubbornness with some posters caused me to subconsciously treat Wowhead posters like official WoW forums' posters over time.
It's sad really, how now I often spend time making snide remarks, satirising and trolling posters compared to actual theorycrafting I tried to help them with like I was helped during my novice period of WoW and Rogue gameplay.
Sure, not every one of us gets to farm 8/8 Dragon Soul heroic while patiently carrying his guildies with his Legendary daggers. Someone will probably a barely active casual player trying to keep up-to-date with the class changes of the recent major patch.
I'm actually a bit of both. I'm not being sarcastic here, I'd love the idea of getting the legendary item with the support of the guild doing extra hours and in return keep the raid DPS exceptionally high for those countless hardmode tries once I get decked out. I'd love to form that kind of bond within a tightly knit guild, but all I am now is a casual community member who subs for trial members when they fail to attend, and occasionally logs onto the main guild's rogue and plays his character for him when he's too busy IRL to collect the Shadowy Gem Clusters (he's halfway through stage 2, I'll be starting my progress in late March!).We should all really go into a "dead-serious overzealous theorycrafter" mode for like a month, and see if it has any effect on the sub-forum.
If it succeeds, other class subforums will an opportunity.Option A
: They realize that "Rogue sub-forum greatest country in the world, All other sub-forums are run by little girls. Rogue sub-forum number one exporter of potassium, all other sub-forums have inferior potassium.Option B
: They don't care, we get dissed hard, everything goes back to status quo.
To get properly good discussions going, posters should try treat each other with an ounce of respect regardless of experience, post count or affection for Pandas or
4chan/b. After all, as a mexican commercial goes, "Porque no los dos?"
If you still insist of being a jerk, here's a not-too-evil path: If you initially think that the OP is a joke, or the reply poster doesn't know half a &*!@ about raiding/arena or whatever, don't let him know he's full of $%^& until the technical theorycrafting discussion is over. Fake the niceness for the theorycrafting nomnomnom and then see whether the OP has learnt or whether the reply poster has understood your post. See where that gets you.