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Post by
nickseng
Please structure your questions better. Provide links to the builds you're talking about (both in the title are Arcane /Frost). Please specify which area of the game are you talking about.
Thank you.
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hawke
Note: if you PVP, arcane is NOT the spec for it.
I would like to get some precisions here ? Are you saying Arcane is bad in PvP, or are you saying that you wouldn't use Mana Shield as Arcane in PvP ?
If it's the first, I really can't see your point, as Arcane is actually a pretty decent PvP build.
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Telrasha
arcane isn't the preferred spec for pvp...frost has better survivability (barrier, shorter nova cd, coldsnap, elemental, etc.) more stuff then arcane, which basically only has slow. healers tend to like frost mages more then arcane.
That topic (best pvp spec) has and will always be argued over because, like just about everything in this game, comes down to personal preference/playstyle.
I love arcane. Arcane is a ton of fun with pvp. miss the good old pom/pyro days. Unfortunately it is dead now because arcane is sooo much better with its full arsenal of spells (arcane barrage + missile barrage procs) then the pom pyro build.
I've never like mana shield and don't use it...would rather lose my mana by shooting spells out then losing it cuz i screwed up and let someone hit me.
the Absorption talent is good if you have a priest friend that throws a shield up on you, which is one of the reason's why the priest, mage, rogue 3s team is amazing (with good coordination). don't see it mattering too much in bg's and yeah its not worth it to get for pve.
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Achloryn
which build is better?
Icy veins is more haste, but your Abarrs are instant so pointless?
Icy Veins also improves your haste on your arcane blasts and arcane missiles, which will do tons more damage than your ABarr's
The pyroblast is good with alot of dmg why not use that one?
already been answered.
And the Glyphs are annoying to choose.
A must have is Evocation glyph.
The others that are good are icy veins, abarr, and arcane power glyph i suppose..? But which other glyphs would be the best?
You sound like you're talking about PvP here... if you're referring to PvE, then the glyphs you take as arcane are Molten Armor, Arcane Blast, and Arcane Missiles.
And incanters absorption worth it? 15% more spell dmg when u take dmg?
Already, been answered, but it doesn't proc when you TAKE damage, it procs when you ABSORB damage.. Like if you have your mana shield up... For PvE you should NEVER have your mana shield up since it is way too much of a mana drain, and arcane has enough mana problems as it is.
And which armor should i use? mage armor or what?
For PvE use molten armor. For PvP, if it's a caster use mage armor, for melee, use frost armor.
What's wrong with PoM/pryo build for pvp?
Nothing, it's just not something you see very often anymore. However, frost is still the best spec for pvping because of the control and the ice barrier and the water ele.
When should you keep mana shield up? When rogue comes up or just for the talent(incanters absorption).
in pvp, if you don't have mana, you're dead. plain and simple. Mana shield is just bad IMO because it doesn't give you anywhere near as much damage mitigation, and honsetly, a decent rogue will probably shatter it with one strike anyway
If Missile barrage procs should i use Abarr then missles or missles till full duration then abarr?
again.. if you're talking PvE, you use MBarr first, then start your ABlast stacks again. If you're PvP, then you can go either way.. shoot your ABarr, and fire your MBarr, or vice versa. The only problem is, there's a chance of your MB getting interrupted either by them running out of range, or them doing some kind of spell interrupt on you.
Also, the best build for PvE arcane is 57/3/11.
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