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I raid frost and I'm always top 5
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Achloryn
oh good.. are we attacking this decaying horse some more?
You are talking out of your arse. plz provide armoury link and vid of you puling this dps for more than 60 secs and i will give you "some" credibility.
L2Read. I have already linked my armory. Later in the thread I provided a screenshot of recount. I don't have interest in providing more "proof" than that because anyone who isn't completely inept or undergeared can replicate my numbers. In fact, my dps is easily supported by the theorycrafting, it's just that the theorycrafters think it isn't good enough.
in all fairness, this page IS (now) 6 pages long, and not many people would read through every post in detail.. and the ones that do, well hell, everyone misses something from time to time.
On a side note to the posters in this thread who actually read a bit before they post, this is the kind of ignorance that your overzealous anti-frost rhetoric engenders.
are you serious? this isn't a frickin holy crusade against frost and everything it stands for. this isn't something saying that the infadels who raid as frost deserve to die. All this has been (with a few exceptions of people who are ATTACKING OTHERS) was you proclaiming that you have good DPS and frost, and most of us with any sense saying you'd have BETTER DPS as other specs. And that, as has already been shown in this thread, is proven countless times by the numbers and the mathematics. I think at one point you yourself even admitted that you'd put out better numbers as another spec, but chose frost anyway. How in the bloody F#@~ is that "overzealous anti-frost rhetoric"... it's PROOF. It's in the numbers. Frost is subpar compared to the other bit 3 raiding specs. there's nothing rhetorical about it.
And also the people among whom frost would raid successfully.
where did the rest of this thought disappear to?
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OscarDivine
was you proclaiming that you have good DPS and frost,
Which he does, he can clear the content ergo he has gd DPS. Thats all that matters when deciding if DPS is gd or not. Can it do the content?
If you enjoy the frost more, play it. You pay for this game like the rest of us, get your money's worth.
But if I knew that one of my raiders could raid for me as a BETTER DPSer but chooses not to on the principle that it's "fine", I would question that player's judgment. Just remember every 2% wipe or under 100k HP wipe you encounter and ask yourself "would we have succeeded if I had just been slightly better?" We've all encountered it. (Has this already been said? Probably, but I'm too lazy to read through 6 pages of this nonsense).
If you're really pushing new content for your guild, do you really want to be sub-par? People who only give 90% effort see smaller returns, that's just logic.
ANNNNND can we stop bumping this thread back to the top? we really are beating the horse here as Achloryn said.
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Achloryn
........4k? high? plz..man.
I know gears help dps, but i can do 4k on Dummy with only selfbuff. even without the Snared effect.
I do think your spec is better for aoe adds.
My armory:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kor%27gall&cn=Everdead&gn=Agnus+Dei
did ya have to bring back this thread YET AGAIN just to brag about your DPS?
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Achloryn
mathron's initial post on page 2 already sealed the thread. let's just leave it at that. i really don't see why there's a need to argue this anymore
because every day or two someone tends to bring this thread back from the grave and continue beating points into the ground thta have already been beaten...
if wowhead had any kind of police going here half of this thread would've been arrested for necrophilia. :P
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Achloryn
........4k? high? plz..man.
I know gears help dps, but i can do 4k on Dummy with only selfbuff. even without the Snared effect.
I do think your spec is better for aoe adds.
My armory:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kor%27gall&cn=Everdead&gn=Agnus+Dei
dude if thats your armoury how are you only pulling 4kdps. You had half pre ulduar BiS and 3 have t8.5 peices. you should be well over 4.9k w/o raid buffs and pushing 6.2 with...also with the t8 4pc bonus stacking more crit (ur at 340) would be effective as you take advantage of the dual hotsteak procs.(seriously 2 insta pyros)
also if your not glyphed for scorch i assume another mage is applying it or you have a warlock with imp shadow bolt. in which case ditch 3 points in improved scorch to get 3/3 arc meditation (100% regen is nice and you get 300 mp5) and use that point in student of the mind (wasted in my opinion even with MoltArm changes) to get PoM.
The 50% mana rejen will help further eliminate any mana issues and alow you to use mobile dps spells (like FireBlast) without worry of OOM.
the insta pyro will aslo help with mobile dps and burst when it is called for.
Reason behind sugesstions are the mobility that occurs during ulduar fitghts and that if your gonna attempt hardmodes you have to be able to burst on demand.
hmm... where to begin...
First off.. edit: erasing this point cause i think i see what you meant after re-reading what the 4pc t8 set bonus does.
Secondly, if he drops all 3 points in Improved Scorch, he only has 50 points in the Fire tree, NOT allowing him to go into Living bomb which is unthinkable.
Thirdly, Fire blast is more trouble than it's worth and it really should almost never be in any kind of rotation. Mana regen while casting has no effect on it, since there's NO cast time.
Fourth, there really shouldn't be any mana issues when you're speced deep fire.
Fifth, he doesn't have the 4 piece set bonus of t8, he has 2 t8, 1 t8.5.
Sixth, there's no reason he should be glyphed for improved scorch.. he has the correct top 3 dps glyphs. Even if he puts scorch on all 5 times himself, it's STILL more DPS with living bomb's crit chance on ticks than not having it glyphed and putting 5x imp scorch on all in one shot.
Seventh, PoM over Student of the Mind? first off, he needs that point in SotM to get deep enough into the fire tree to get to TTW.
Eighth (that word always looks wrong to me)... for PoM he needs 20 points in arcane, which means, again, he's taking more out of fire keeping him from getting living bomb.. inconceiveable.
edit: making myself sound less like a jackarse.
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